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Module Layout Philosophy

2006-09-09 by untiedstates

Just wondering how y'all plan your module layouts.

I'm sure for massive modulars it's not quite so crucial.. I have a
100-P suitcase and space is a real issue.

I tried to organize the modules according to logic
(VCO-VCF-VCA..etc..) but it doesn't make for the most comfortable
patching. I'm going to rearrange everything according to ease of
patching and knob-turning. 

I guess in the end it doesn't matter how things are arranged.. just so
long as you learn the layout. See, I like to do real hands-on
manipulation rather than just patch a sound and leave it - keeping all
the knobs easily accessible even with very complex patches becomes
extremely important.

How do you arrange your modular?

-Bryan

Re: [Doepfer_a100] Module Layout Philosophy

2006-09-09 by Bakis Sirros

hello,
i usually follow the vco's-vcf-vca,cv mod sources(env,
lfo's, etc...) layout.
but sometimes when space is an issue, or too many
wierd modules populate one specific rack, i just
change the  layout to whatever suits me.
for me, too, the most important is to learn your
layout, not to follow a specific layout pattern.
best regards,
Bakis.




--- untiedstates <untiedstates@yahoo.com> wrote:

> Just wondering how y'all plan your module layouts.
> 
> I'm sure for massive modulars it's not quite so
> crucial.. I have a
> 100-P suitcase and space is a real issue.
> 
> I tried to organize the modules according to logic
> (VCO-VCF-VCA..etc..) but it doesn't make for the
> most comfortable
> patching. I'm going to rearrange everything
> according to ease of
> patching and knob-turning. 
> 
> I guess in the end it doesn't matter how things are
> arranged.. just so
> long as you learn the layout. See, I like to do real
> hands-on
> manipulation rather than just patch a sound and
> leave it - keeping all
> the knobs easily accessible even with very complex
> patches becomes
> extremely important.
> 
> How do you arrange your modular?
> 
> -Bryan
> 
> 
> 
> 


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RE: [Doepfer_a100] Module Layout Philosophy

2006-09-09 by vogelscheiss

Yup, agreed.

--Chuck

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com]
> On Behalf Of Bakis Sirros
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the most important is to learn your
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> layout, not to follow a specific layout pattern.
> best regards,
> Bakis.

RE: [Doepfer_a100] Module Layout Philosophy

2006-09-10 by William Soraparu

Its up to the artist....agreed.....the layout of the modules is indicative sometimes of the artist's approach at the way he does his sound..
   
  Hawaii

vogelscheiss <vogelscheiss@gmail.com> wrote:
          Yup, agreed.

--Chuck

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com]
> On Behalf Of Bakis Sirros
> Sent: Saturday, September 09, 2006 12:08 PM
> To: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [Doepfer_a100] Module Layout Philosophy
> 
the most important is to learn your
> layout, not to follow a specific layout pattern.
> best regards,
> Bakis.



         

 		
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Re: [Doepfer_a100] Module Layout Philosophy

2006-09-10 by William Soraparu

I try to keep the heart of the Analog to the center of the case no matter the size.....and then I place all the other modules around....kinda like in the fashion of a centrifuge...
   
  Hawaii

untiedstates <untiedstates@yahoo.com> wrote:
          Just wondering how y'all plan your module layouts.

I'm sure for massive modulars it's not quite so crucial.. I have a
100-P suitcase and space is a real issue.

I tried to organize the modules according to logic
(VCO-VCF-VCA..etc..) but it doesn't make for the most comfortable
patching. I'm going to rearrange everything according to ease of
patching and knob-turning. 

I guess in the end it doesn't matter how things are arranged.. just so
long as you learn the layout. See, I like to do real hands-on
manipulation rather than just patch a sound and leave it - keeping all
the knobs easily accessible even with very complex patches becomes
extremely important.

How do you arrange your modular?

-Bryan



         

 		
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Re: Module Layout Philosophy

2006-09-10 by buchla300

--- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, William Soraparu
<donnbill369@...> wrote:
>
> Its up to the artist....agreed.....the layout of the modules is
indicative sometimes of the artist's approach at the way he does his
sound..
>    
>   Hawaii
> 


Yes.
It also depends on the machine!
On my Polyfusion for example, the modules are kind of laid out in
synth sections. 
so I have 3 complete synths within the synth and can keep them kind of
seperate..
Having said that, I tend to just find it more logical to follow the
typical Moog layout. Sources then sound modifiers then Envelopes and 
Amplifiers
It really depends though and change is a good thing ;)

Re: Module Layout Philosophy

2006-09-10 by untiedstates

So this time instead of the clear VCO-VCF-VCA type of logic I arranged
the modules solely with the idea that the patching should be spread
out evenly. This way I'll avoid a pileup of cables when 2 A-138 mixers
are side-by-side, for example.

No two alike modules are next to each other.

We'll see how it works out.. but this way all knob functions should be
easily accessed without having to part a sea of cables.



--- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, "buchla300" <david.morley@...> wrote:
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> --- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, William Soraparu
> <donnbill369@> wrote:
> >
> > Its up to the artist....agreed.....the layout of the modules is
> indicative sometimes of the artist's approach at the way he does his
> sound..
> >    
> >   Hawaii
> > 
> 
> 
> Yes.
> It also depends on the machine!
> On my Polyfusion for example, the modules are kind of laid out in
> synth sections. 
> so I have 3 complete synths within the synth and can keep them kind of
> seperate..
> Having said that, I tend to just find it more logical to follow the
> typical Moog layout. Sources then sound modifiers then Envelopes and 
> Amplifiers
> It really depends though and change is a good thing ;)
>

Re: [Doepfer_a100] Module Layout Philosophy

2006-09-10 by James Husted

I have 2 100-P cases that are full. I have re-arranged the modules  
many, many times. I currently have them arranged so that each cabinet  
can stand on it's own. Typically i have the top row of modules  
arranged as the audio path - sound source (VCO, Input modules etc) -  
sound modifiers (Ring Mod, Filters, VCA) - and lastly output modules  
(Mixer, Panner). The bottom row is all controllers (Joystick, ADSR,  
LFOs, MIDI in, etc). This way when they are laying on their backs on  
a table in live shows (or on a slant table in my studio) the  
controller stuff is closest to me. I have some Euro-Rack rails and  
hardware and will probably build some similar set-up in the future  
when I buy more modules. I find the 100-p racks to be perfect for me.  
You can stack them or lay them side-by-side, horizontal or vertical -  
very flexible for me. The main hurdle is to always have some LONG  
patch cords! No setup is perfect - you will never avoid the need to  
patch two modules that are at the complete opposite ends of your rig!

Basically there is no prefect or permanent setup in modulars. Thank  
god they ARE modular and can be re-arranged. Most modular folks re- 
evaluate the layout with each new module purchase. The never ending  
story.

-James


On Sep 9, 2006, at 7:33 AM, untiedstates wrote:

> Just wondering how y'all plan your module layouts.
>
> I'm sure for massive modulars it's not quite so crucial.. I have a
> 100-P suitcase and space is a real issue.
>
> I tried to organize the modules according to logic
> (VCO-VCF-VCA..etc..) but it doesn't make for the most comfortable
> patching. I'm going to rearrange everything according to ease of
> patching and knob-turning.
>
> I guess in the end it doesn't matter how things are arranged.. just so
> long as you learn the layout. See, I like to do real hands-on
> manipulation rather than just patch a sound and leave it - keeping all
> the knobs easily accessible even with very complex patches becomes
> extremely important.
>
> How do you arrange your modular?
>
> -Bryan
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Re: [Doepfer_a100] Module Layout Philosophy

2006-09-11 by Silas Johansen

I have a G3 rack on top of a G6, so three rows of modules that I bought
used. The G6 was a BS1 with unaltered layout when I got them about half a
year ago, the G3 contained two extra EG's, a fixed filter bank, a CV source,
a voltage inverter, a dual VCA and some blanks. Naturally, after playing
with this for a while I started thinking about how to do a better layout...

My first thought was that I had three rows to play with and should take
advantage of that fact. I had also noticed that gravity works the same way
on patch cables that it does on everything else, and thus decided to put all
modules that needed very little tweaking (including all modules with no
knobs like ring mod, VC-switch, multiples etc.) on the bottom row along with
some blanks to help alleviate the birds nest that would materialize there.

In the second row from the bottom I have a more or less traditional VCOs -
filters & mods - VCAs layout, with a slew limiter to the left of the VCO's
as that's what made most sense to me at the time. This leaves the top row,
which gravity helps keep relatively tidy, open for LFO's, CV sources and
other stuff that I currently find myself tweaking most often.

Naturally, this is bound to change as I get to know this beast better. I
also want to get a few more modules (a few? yeah, right) and install those.
This will lead to my synth growing beyond the current capacity of the racks,
so I'll either need another G6 or I'll have to build something myself.
Either way, I'll be forced to rethink the module layout, which is probably a
good thing.

Cheers,

Silas

On 9/9/06, untiedstates <untiedstates@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> Just wondering how y'all plan your module layouts.
>
> I'm sure for massive modulars it's not quite so crucial.. I have a
> 100-P suitcase and space is a real issue.
>
> I tried to organize the modules according to logic
> (VCO-VCF-VCA..etc..) but it doesn't make for the most comfortable
> patching. I'm going to rearrange everything according to ease of
> patching and knob-turning.
>
> I guess in the end it doesn't matter how things are arranged.. just so
> long as you learn the layout. See, I like to do real hands-on
> manipulation rather than just patch a sound and leave it - keeping all
> the knobs easily accessible even with very complex patches becomes
> extremely important.
>
> How do you arrange your modular?
>
> -Bryan
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> Yahoo! Groups Links
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