Doepfer

"The first audio example of the tapped BBD module
 A-188-2 is now
 available. It's a stereo mp3 to show the
 possibilities of the two
 simultaneous audio outputs."
 
 Best wishes
 Dieter Doepfer










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Hi

Where is it and what is it called?

cheers

Ross

Bakis Sirros wrote:

>
>
> "The first audio example of the tapped BBD module
> A-188-2 is now
> available. It's a stereo mp3 to show the
> possibilities of the two
> simultaneous audio outputs."
>
> Best wishes
> Dieter Doepfer
>
> Bakis Sirros - Parallel Worlds
> [Doepfer_a100] group owner
> http://www.parallel-worlds-music.com 
> <http://www.parallel-worlds-music.com>
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> <http://www.myspace.com/parallelworldsmusic>
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On Oct 16, 2006, at 5:34 PM, amnesia wrote:

> Hi
>
> Where is it and what is it called?

http://www.doepfer.de/A1882.htm

More demo's please.....this one is kind of ehhh boring.

2006/10/17, phil hendricks <ph@comcast.net>:
>
>
> On Oct 16, 2006, at 5:34 PM, amnesia wrote:
>
> > Hi
> >
> > Where is it and what is it called?
>
> http://www.doepfer.de/A1882.htm
>
>  
>


[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

hello jean,

some time ago i had the chance to try the first prototype
of the a188/2. it can indeed be used as a multitap delay,
but the delay times on bbd ic's are quite short, so
you won't get these long multitap cascades that a digital
unit can produce. the strength of the a188/2 is clearly
the generation of chorus and flanger effects,
especially chorus is cool on that device.

the a188/2 is quite versatile, but i wouldn't say that you
can do everything with it. especially the shorter bbd's
(from 128 to 512 stages) can do a few things which are
not possible on the a188/2. also the sound is a bit different,
especially at high feedback settings. it seems that bbd's
with more stages have a harsher sounding feedback than
bbd's with less stages.

regarding the first sound example, i think it gives
a good impression about what this module can do with
just one single waveform. the tiny waveform is getting
quite thick imho.

best wishes

ingo




--- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, "J S" <melovelove@...> wrote:
>
> Mmmm.
> 
> But is it also possible to use it as a multitap delay witch cv over
> clock....
> 
> I'm waiting for this module, cause I thought it would be the most 
versatile
> analog delay form all the bbd modules?
> 
> Gr,
> 
> Jean
> 
> 2006/10/18, Florian Anwander <Florian.Anwander@...>:
> >
> >   Hi J
> >
> > > More demo's please.....this one is kind of ehhh boring.
> > Try to reproduce the same sound with a simple one-tap BBD. Its 
impossible.
> >
> > I don't own the A-188-2 (how should I ;) ), but I own an A/DA STD-
1
> > which is built around the same chip and provides very similar 
features
> > as the A-188-2 (see
> > http://www.adadepot.com/adagear/gearpages/effects/ADA-STD-1.htm). 
The
> > main feature of this chip is the really incredible rich, fat 
chorus or
> > flanger you can achive with it. Also the great variations of
> > feedback/delay-time combinations (especially longer delays with 
the
> > feedback of the shorte taps) are quite unique.
> >
> > You have to imagine: this very rich sound is created by a single 
VCO and
> > a single modulated BBD-module only.
> > If you have two A-188-2's will be go crazy while producing stereo
> > ping-but-not-pong-while-feedback-pang-or-perhaps-pung-later 
flanger
> > stuff. ;-)
> >
> > I promise: once you own this module, you will regret what you 
wrote

> > today ;-)
> >
> > Florian
> >
> >  
> >
> 
> 
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

Hi J

> More demo's please.....this one is kind of ehhh boring.
Try to reproduce the same sound with a simple one-tap BBD. Its impossible.

I don't own the A-188-2 (how should I ;) ), but I own an A/DA STD-1 
which is built around the same chip and provides very similar features 
as the A-188-2 (see 
http://www.adadepot.com/adagear/gearpages/effects/ADA-STD-1.htm). The 
main feature of this chip is the really incredible rich, fat chorus or 
flanger you can achive with it. Also the great variations of 
feedback/delay-time combinations (especially longer delays with the 
feedback of the shorte taps) are quite unique.

You have to imagine: this very rich sound is created by a single VCO and 
a single modulated BBD-module only.
If you have two A-188-2's will be go crazy while producing stereo 
ping-but-not-pong-while-feedback-pang-or-perhaps-pung-later flanger 
stuff. ;-)


I promise: once you own this module, you will regret what you wrote 
today ;-)


Florian

Mmmm.

But is it also possible to use it as a multitap delay witch cv over
clock....

I'm waiting for this module, cause I thought it would be the most versatile
analog delay form all the bbd modules?

Gr,

Jean

2006/10/18, Florian Anwander <Florian.Anwander@consol.de>:
>
>   Hi J
>
> > More demo's please.....this one is kind of ehhh boring.
> Try to reproduce the same sound with a simple one-tap BBD. Its impossible.
>
> I don't own the A-188-2 (how should I ;) ), but I own an A/DA STD-1
> which is built around the same chip and provides very similar features
> as the A-188-2 (see
> http://www.adadepot.com/adagear/gearpages/effects/ADA-STD-1.htm). The
> main feature of this chip is the really incredible rich, fat chorus or
> flanger you can achive with it. Also the great variations of
> feedback/delay-time combinations (especially longer delays with the
> feedback of the shorte taps) are quite unique.
>
> You have to imagine: this very rich sound is created by a single VCO and
> a single modulated BBD-module only.
> If you have two A-188-2's will be go crazy while producing stereo
> ping-but-not-pong-while-feedback-pang-or-perhaps-pung-later flanger
> stuff. ;-)
>
> I promise: once you own this module, you will regret what you wrote
> today ;-)
>
> Florian
>
>  
>


[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Phil,

it's the very first demo and we wanted to show what is possible with a VCO
(A-110) and LFO only. Of course more complex examples will come in the
future. From my point of view such a simple demo may tell you more about the
possibilities of the module than a very complex demo where you may have
problems to find out the contribution of the module in question. That's why
we also add no other effects (e.g. reverb, delay) to our demos.

If anybody has patch suggestions for additional A-188-2 demos please tell
me. We'll try to make a demo with that patch. Probably next week Ingo will
obtain a second prototype and maybe he will have time to record some
examples as well and publish them on his website.

Best wishes
Dieter Doepfer

> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> Von: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com
> [mailto:Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com]Im Auftrag von J S
> Gesendet: Mittwoch, 18. Oktober 2006 13:01
> An: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com
> Betreff: Re: [Doepfer_a100] Fwd: First audio examples of A-188-2
>
>
> More demo's please.....this one is kind of ehhh boring.
>
> 2006/10/17, phil hendricks <ph@comcast.net>:
> >
> >
> > On Oct 16, 2006, at 5:34 PM, amnesia wrote:
> >
> > > Hi
> > >
> > > Where is it and what is it called?
> >
> > http://www.doepfer.de/A1882.htm
> >
> >
> >
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>

--- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, <hardware@...> wrote:
>
From my point of view such a simple demo may tell you more about the
> possibilities of the module than a very complex demo where you may have
> problems to find out the contribution of the module in question.
That's why
> we also add no other effects (e.g. reverb, delay) to our demos.
> 
Totally agree! Highly appreciated approach since it is easier to
imagine possible more complex usage from an simple patch than to
distract the single contributions of individual modules from a more
complicated patch. By the way, I thought the sample quite impressive!
Regards, Ingo

hello list,
from the "fatness" of the chorus i heard from even
this simple a188-2 audio example i am convinced of the
a188-2 quality and i'll buy two of these for my
system!
let alone the flexibiliy and creative power of all
these controls...
best regards,
Bakis.



--- hardware@doepfer.de wrote:

> Phil,
> 
> it's the very first demo and we wanted to show what
> is possible with a VCO
> (A-110) and LFO only. Of course more complex
> examples will come in the
> future. From my point of view such a simple demo may
> tell you more about the
> possibilities of the module than a very complex demo
> where you may have
> problems to find out the contribution of the module
> in question. That's why
> we also add no other effects (e.g. reverb, delay) to
> our demos.
> 
> If anybody has patch suggestions for additional
> A-188-2 demos please tell
> me. We'll try to make a demo with that patch.
> Probably next week Ingo will
> obtain a second prototype and maybe he will have
> time to record some
> examples as well and publish them on his website.
> 
> Best wishes
> Dieter Doepfer
> 
> > -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> > Von: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com
> > [mailto:Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com]Im Auftrag
> von J S
> > Gesendet: Mittwoch, 18. Oktober 2006 13:01
> > An: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com
> > Betreff: Re: [Doepfer_a100] Fwd: First audio
> examples of A-188-2
> >
> >
> > More demo's please.....this one is kind of ehhh
> boring.
> >
> > 2006/10/17, phil hendricks <ph@comcast.net>:
> > >
> > >
> > > On Oct 16, 2006, at 5:34 PM, amnesia wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hi
> > > >
> > > > Where is it and what is it called?
> > >
> > > http://www.doepfer.de/A1882.htm
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been
> removed]
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
> >
> 
> 
> 
>  
> Yahoo! Groups Links
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 


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http://www.myspace.com/parallelworldsmusic
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> If anybody has patch suggestions for additional A-188-2 demos please tell
> me. We'll try to make a demo with that patch. Probably next week Ingo will
> obtain a second prototype and maybe he will have time to record some
> examples as well and publish them on his website.

i wouldn't mind a stuttering pingpong-delay with long delaytimes  
coming from one single short bleep, possibly with some variations in 
feedback 

thanks!

anton

Hi Dieter (and perhaps Ingo ;-))

> If anybody has patch suggestions for additional A-188-2 demos please tell
> me. We'll try to make a demo with that patch. Probably next week Ingo will
> obtain a second prototype and maybe he will have time to record some
> examples as well and publish them on his website.

- Feedback from another tap than the audio out is delivering
- Multitap output from all taps, where  the shortest tap has
   the lowest level. The level becomes higher with the delaytime
   of the tap. Creates some reverse sounding effects.
- Two A-188-2 at different clock speeds with cross module
   feedback: Will produce reverb kind sounds. If modulated it has to
   be filend under "cases of failing drug prevention strategies". ;-)
- Envelopemodulation from high to very low clock rates, with feedback:
   Cloudlike cluster sounds.

Florian

--- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, Florian Anwander
<Florian.Anwander@...> wrote:
>
> J S wrote:
> 
> > Can anybody tell me how I can become an Ingo, so I can test al the
nice
> > prototypes?
> > 
> > I wannabe Ingo :)
> I assume if you buy enough modules, become an A-100 expert, do several 
> records mostly with the A-100 and then do a lot of great example audios 
> for free for Doepfer, your chances are good ;-)
> 
> Florian
> 
> (Btw: I really can recommend Ingos records - very cool stuff)
>
Yes, I can assure you just being named Ingo does not qualify for the
privilege to receive Doepfer's prototypes. Regards, Ingo (not
selfoscilating)

Can anybody tell me how I can become an Ingo, so I can test al the nice
prototypes?

I wannabe Ingo :)

2006/10/19, Florian Anwander <Florian.Anwander@consol.de>:
>
>   Hi Dieter (and perhaps Ingo ;-))
>
> > If anybody has patch suggestions for additional A-188-2 demos please
> tell
> > me. We'll try to make a demo with that patch. Probably next week Ingo
> will
> > obtain a second prototype and maybe he will have time to record some
> > examples as well and publish them on his website.
>
> - Feedback from another tap than the audio out is delivering
> - Multitap output from all taps, where the shortest tap has
> the lowest level. The level becomes higher with the delaytime
> of the tap. Creates some reverse sounding effects.
> - Two A-188-2 at different clock speeds with cross module
> feedback: Will produce reverb kind sounds. If modulated it has to
> be filend under "cases of failing drug prevention strategies". ;-)
> - Envelopemodulation from high to very low clock rates, with feedback:
> Cloudlike cluster sounds.
>
> Florian
>  
>


[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

J S wrote:

> Can anybody tell me how I can become an Ingo, so I can test al the nice
> prototypes?
> 
> I wannabe Ingo :)
I assume if you buy enough modules, become an A-100 expert, do several 
records mostly with the A-100 and then do a lot of great example audios 
for free for Doepfer, your chances are good ;-)

Florian

(Btw: I really can recommend Ingos records - very cool stuff)

You have to go to the office in your country and ask if you can get another
first name :-)
But I cannot promise that this will be sufficient for prototype testing as
the Ingo you are talking about is unique...

Dieter Doepfer

> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> Von: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com
> [mailto:Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com]Im Auftrag von J S
> Gesendet: Donnerstag, 19. Oktober 2006 17:44
> An: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com
> Betreff: Re: AW: [Doepfer_a100] Fwd: First audio examples of A-188-2
>
>
> Can anybody tell me how I can become an Ingo, so I can test al the nice
> prototypes?
>
> I wannabe Ingo :)
>
> 2006/10/19, Florian Anwander <Florian.Anwander@consol.de>:
> >
> >   Hi Dieter (and perhaps Ingo ;-))
> >
> > > If anybody has patch suggestions for additional A-188-2 demos please
> > tell
> > > me. We'll try to make a demo with that patch. Probably next week Ingo
> > will
> > > obtain a second prototype and maybe he will have time to record some
> > > examples as well and publish them on his website.
> >
> > - Feedback from another tap than the audio out is delivering
> > - Multitap output from all taps, where the shortest tap has
> > the lowest level. The level becomes higher with the delaytime
> > of the tap. Creates some reverse sounding effects.
> > - Two A-188-2 at different clock speeds with cross module
> > feedback: Will produce reverb kind sounds. If modulated it has to
> > be filend under "cases of failing drug prevention strategies". ;-)
> > - Envelopemodulation from high to very low clock rates, with feedback:
> > Cloudlike cluster sounds.
> >
> > Florian
> >
> >
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>

Hell no.  You're doing great stuff, Ingo.  I'm grateful we've got you in
there putting the stuff through it's paces for great demos.  I get a much
better sense of the gear from them.

--Chuck

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com
> [mailto:Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of ilanode
> Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2006 12:27 PM
> To: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [Doepfer_a100] Fwd: First audio examples of A-188-2
> 
> --- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, Florian Anwander
> <Florian.Anwander@...> wrote:
> >
> > J S wrote:
> >
> > > Can anybody tell me how I can become an Ingo, so I can test al the
> nice
> > > prototypes?
> > >
> > > I wannabe Ingo :)
> > I assume if you buy enough modules, become an A-100 expert, do several
> > records mostly with the A-100 and then do a lot of great example audios
> > for free for Doepfer, your chances are good ;-)
> >
> > Florian
> >
> > (Btw: I really can recommend Ingos records - very cool stuff)
> >
> Yes, I can assure you just being named Ingo does not qualify for the
> privilege to receive Doepfer's prototypes. Regards, Ingo (not
> selfoscilating)

That is totally easy! Over all the years you are a good purchaser of all 
the good things Mr.Doepfer builds,
on the other hand you try to get out the best of the nice gear and have 
a good conversation by giving some or many important hints from the side 
of a heavy user as Ingo does!
First buy, then try!

J S schrieb:

>
> Can anybody tell me how I can become an Ingo, so I can test al the nice
> prototypes?
>
> I wannabe Ingo :)
>
> 2006/10/19, Florian Anwander <Florian.Anwander@consol.de 
> <mailto:Florian.Anwander%40consol.de>>:
> >
> > Hi Dieter (and perhaps Ingo ;-))
> >
> > > If anybody has patch suggestions for additional A-188-2 demos please
> > tell
> > > me. We'll try to make a demo with that patch. Probably next week Ingo
> > will
> > > obtain a second prototype and maybe he will have time to record some
> > > examples as well and publish them on his website.
> >
> > - Feedback from another tap than the audio out is delivering
> > - Multitap output from all taps, where the shortest tap has
> > the lowest level. The level becomes higher with the delaytime
> > of the tap. Creates some reverse sounding effects.
> > - Two A-188-2 at different clock speeds with cross module
> > feedback: Will produce reverb kind sounds. If modulated it has to
> > be filend under "cases of failing drug prevention strategies". ;-)
> > - Envelopemodulation from high to very low clock rates, with feedback:
> > Cloudlike cluster sounds.
> >
> > Florian
> >
> >
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>

and you also have to study BBDology...

--- Florian Anwander <Florian.Anwander@consol.de>
wrote:

> J S wrote:
> 
> > Can anybody tell me how I can become an Ingo, so I
> can test al the nice
> > prototypes?
> > 
> > I wannabe Ingo :)
> I assume if you buy enough modules, become an A-100
> expert, do several 
> records mostly with the A-100 and then do a lot of
> great example audios 
> for free for Doepfer, your chances are good ;-)
> 
> Florian
> 
> (Btw: I really can recommend Ingos records - very
> cool stuff)
> 


Bakis Sirros - Parallel Worlds
[Doepfer_a100] group owner
http://www.parallel-worlds-music.com
http://www.myspace.com/parallelworldsmusic
http://www.shimarecords.co.uk
http://www.rubber.gr
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i feel a bit abashed now.
thanks to everybody for the nice words
about my person :-)
it is a pleasure to be part of this community.

best wishes

ingo


--- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, "unknown freak" 
<vogelscheiss@...> wrote:
>
> Hell no.  You're doing great stuff, Ingo.  I'm grateful we've got 
you in
> there putting the stuff through it's paces for great demos.  I get 
a much
> better sense of the gear from them.
> 
> --Chuck
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com
> > [mailto:Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of ilanode
> > Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2006 12:27 PM
> > To: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: Re: [Doepfer_a100] Fwd: First audio examples of A-188-2
> > 
> > --- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, Florian Anwander
> > <Florian.Anwander@> wrote:
> > >
> > > J S wrote:
> > >
> > > > Can anybody tell me how I can become an Ingo, so I can test 
al the
> > nice
> > > > prototypes?
> > > >
> > > > I wannabe Ingo :)
> > > I assume if you buy enough modules, become an A-100 expert, do 
several
> > > records mostly with the A-100 and then do a lot of great 
example audios
> > > for free for Doepfer, your chances are good ;-)
> > >
> > > Florian
> > >
> > > (Btw: I really can recommend Ingos records - very cool stuff)
> > >
> > Yes, I can assure you just being named Ingo does not qualify for 
the

> > privilege to receive Doepfer's prototypes. Regards, Ingo (not
> > selfoscilating)
>