Doepfer

I am considering these options for volume control for my soon to 
arrive new system:

1. Monitor. My Genelec 8030A has volume knob. I would guess, this 
method makes least noise...?

2. External mixer

3. Volume pedal

4. Some module capable of attenuating. For example, Analogue 
Solutions HP01 headphone amplifier, which takes only 6HP:
http://www.users.globalnet.co.uk/~concuss/concussor/hp01.htm
"It has three main functions;
Small mixer to take outputs from other sub-mixers in the system.
Headphone Pre-Amp for those that wish not to use speakers.
1/4" / large jack output so the main output signal from the system 
can be taken to a mixing desk without the need for special cables or 
adaptors."
The discontinued A-139 has only headphone outs...
(By the way, is it safe - for the equipment, not to ears - to 
directly monitor modules with headphones? Mine are 2 X 100 ohms.)


I would like to hear, how you more experienced people deal with 
volume control and what you use for amplification?


Best regards
Jari Jokinen

I use an external mixer (old 8 channel with a nice, dirty spring reverb)
connected to an ordinary hi-fi stereo system and headphones. I make good use
of the EQ capabilities and reverb of the mixer, and I can also patch in
other gear (drum box, VA-synth etc).

But what is best for you is a matter of your needs. If you need it to be
highly portable a headphone amp module is probably your best bet, but it is
also the most limited choice in terms of features and sound shaping. If,
like me, you use your modular with other stuff, an external mixer is
probably best.

Have fun with your system when it arrives,

Silas

On 12/3/06, jalmari3 <jari.jokinen@luukku.com> wrote:
>
>   I am considering these options for volume control for my soon to
> arrive new system:
>
> 1. Monitor. My Genelec 8030A has volume knob. I would guess, this
> method makes least noise...?
>
> 2. External mixer
>
> 3. Volume pedal
>
> 4. Some module capable of attenuating. For example, Analogue
> Solutions HP01 headphone amplifier, which takes only 6HP:
> http://www.users.globalnet.co.uk/~concuss/concussor/hp01.htm<http://www.users.globalnet.co.uk/%7Econcuss/concussor/hp01.htm>
> "It has three main functions;
> Small mixer to take outputs from other sub-mixers in the system.
> Headphone Pre-Amp for those that wish not to use speakers.
> 1/4" / large jack output so the main output signal from the system
> can be taken to a mixing desk without the need for special cables or
> adaptors."
> The discontinued A-139 has only headphone outs...
> (By the way, is it safe - for the equipment, not to ears - to
> directly monitor modules with headphones? Mine are 2 X 100 ohms.)
>
> I would like to hear, how you more experienced people deal with
> volume control and what you use for amplification?
>
> Best regards
> Jari Jokinen
>
>  
>


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i can't see how anyone can avoid using an external mixer with 
electronic music.  for sound reinforcment, live i use a pair of 
roland keyboard amps and at home, like silas, i plug into my stereo 
hifi receiver.  but always through a mixer.  behringer has some very 
affordable and very small footprint mixers.

additionally, i'd like to suggest the combination of the modest 8hp 
foot controller (a1??)
module and a VCA as a modular volume pedal.  it's there for you in 
case 
you need easy volume control, but also there for any number of other 
CV needs you may have far beyond mere volume purposes (i have created 
some crazy stuff with two pedals going at once, using every limb of 
my body to do some manner of 
sound shaping).

---tom


--- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, "Silas Johansen" <sijodk@...> 
wrote:
>
> I use an external mixer (old 8 channel with a nice, dirty spring 
reverb)
> connected to an ordinary hi-fi stereo system and headphones. I make 
good use
> of the EQ capabilities and reverb of the mixer, and I can also 
patch in
> other gear (drum box, VA-synth etc).
> 
> But what is best for you is a matter of your needs. If you need it 
to be
> highly portable a headphone amp module is probably your best bet, 
but it is
> also the most limited choice in terms of features and sound 
shaping. If,
> like me, you use your modular with other stuff, an external mixer is
> probably best.
> 
> Have fun with your system when it arrives,
> 
> Silas
> 
> On 12/3/06, jalmari3 <jari.jokinen@...> wrote:
> >
> >   I am considering these options for volume control for my soon to
> > arrive new system:
> >
> > 1. Monitor. My Genelec 8030A has volume knob. I would guess, this
> > method makes least noise...?
> >
> > 2. External mixer
> >
> > 3. Volume pedal
> >
> > 4. Some module capable of attenuating. For example, Analogue
> > Solutions HP01 headphone amplifier, which takes only 6HP:
> > 
http://www.users.globalnet.co.uk/~concuss/concussor/hp01.htm<http://ww
w.users.globalnet.co.uk/%7Econcuss/concussor/hp01.htm>
> > "It has three main functions;
> > Small mixer to take outputs from other sub-mixers in the system.
> > Headphone Pre-Amp for those that wish not to use speakers.
> > 1/4" / large jack output so the main output signal from the system
> > can be taken to a mixing desk without the need for special cables 
or

> > adaptors."
> > The discontinued A-139 has only headphone outs...
> > (By the way, is it safe - for the equipment, not to ears - to
> > directly monitor modules with headphones? Mine are 2 X 100 ohms.)
> >
> > I would like to hear, how you more experienced people deal with
> > volume control and what you use for amplification?
> >
> > Best regards
> > Jari Jokinen
> >
> >  
> >
> 
> 
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

> i can't see how anyone can avoid using an external mixer with
> electronic music. for sound reinforcment, live i use a pair of
> roland keyboard amps and at home, like silas, i plug into my stereo
> hifi receiver. but always through a mixer. behringer has some very
> affordable and very small footprint mixers.
>
> additionally, i'd like to suggest the combination of the modest 8hp foot
controller (a1??)
> module and a VCA as a modular volume pedal. it's there for you in case
> you need easy volume control, but also there for any number of other
> CV needs you may have far beyond mere volume purposes (i have created
> some crazy stuff with two pedals going at once, using every limb of
> my body to do some manner of sound shaping).

The A-177 was such module but the production has been stopped because of the
extremely poor inquiries (about 2 per month only).

Best wishes
Dieter Doepfer

ok, well good thing i've got mine already!  i find it very useful.
-tom

--- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, <hardware@...> wrote:
>
> > i can't see how anyone can avoid using an external mixer with
> > electronic music. for sound reinforcment, live i use a pair of
> > roland keyboard amps and at home, like silas, i plug into my stereo
> > hifi receiver. but always through a mixer. behringer has some very
> > affordable and very small footprint mixers.
> >
> > additionally, i'd like to suggest the combination of the modest
8hp foot
> controller (a1??)
> > module and a VCA as a modular volume pedal. it's there for you in case
> > you need easy volume control, but also there for any number of other
> > CV needs you may have far beyond mere volume purposes (i have created
> > some crazy stuff with two pedals going at once, using every limb of
> > my body to do some manner of sound shaping).
> 
> The A-177 was such module but the production has been stopped
because of the

> extremely poor inquiries (about 2 per month only).
> 
> Best wishes
> Dieter Doepfer
>