Doepfer

> > Big Ben so one would think audio is rock solid. (PPC Mac DP 2.0G, OSX 10.4.11)
> 
> > Am I missing something? 
> 
> > Nothing useful from the Ableton forums yet. I know this isn't a DAW forum but....
> 
> > Any ideas, fixes, etc. would be most appreciated. 
> 
> > Thanks in advance.
> 
> > Adam G
> 
> >
>

> > I play. It's that the rhythmic timing of the stream of notes (16th notes for instance)
> > glitches at random moments. In other words, the timing is not solid.
> 
> > Thanks again,
> 
> > Adam G
> 
> > --- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, verstaerker <verstaerker@> wrote:
> >>
> >> i encountered that the my a-190 is only accepting notes not lower than
> >> C3 (if i remember right) for trigger - this can be adjusted in the
> >> config (see manual)
> >> 
> >> > Hello All,
> >> 
> >> > I am attempting to play the A-100 with the Ableton Live 7 arpeggiator. It works 
> > except
> >> > that at random points, there is a "hiccup" in the rhythmic flow.
> >> 
> >> > I tested the arp with sofsynths and had no problems.
> >> 
> >> > I have played with the A-140 to see if it effects the timing. 
> >> 
> >> > I have sent the gate from the 190 straight to the vca.
> >> 
> >> > I have played with the buffer settings in Live. My MOTU 828 mkII is synced to an 
> > Apogee
> >> > Big Ben so one would think audio is rock solid. (PPC Mac DP 2.0G, OSX 10.4.11)
> >> 
> >> > Am I missing something? 
> >> 
> >> > Nothing useful from the Ableton forums yet. I know this isn't a DAW forum but....
> >> 
> >> > Any ideas, fixes, etc. would be most appreciated. 
> >> 
> >> > Thanks in advance.
> >> 
> >> > Adam G
> >> 
> >> >
> >>
> 
> >
>

> Hello All,

> I am attempting to play the A-100 with the Ableton Live 7 arpeggiator. It works except
> that at random points, there is a "hiccup" in the rhythmic flow.

> I tested the arp with sofsynths and had no problems.

> I have played with the A-140 to see if it effects the timing. 

> I have sent the gate from the 190 straight to the vca.

> I have played with the buffer settings in Live. My MOTU 828 mkII is synced to an Apogee
> Big Ben so one would think audio is rock solid. (PPC Mac DP 2.0G, OSX 10.4.11)

> Am I missing something? 

> Nothing useful from the Ableton forums yet. I know this isn't a DAW forum but....

> Any ideas, fixes, etc. would be most appreciated. 

> Thanks in advance.

> Adam G

>

> Thanks for the response!

> It's not that steps are dropping out because of a note range issue. I'm getting all the notes
> I play. It's that the rhythmic timing of the stream of notes (16th notes for instance)
> glitches at random moments. In other words, the timing is not solid.

> Thanks again,

> Adam G

> --- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, verstaerker <verstaerker@...> wrote:
>>
>> i encountered that the my a-190 is only accepting notes not lower than
>> C3 (if i remember right) for trigger - this can be adjusted in the
>> config (see manual)
>> 
>> > Hello All,
>> 
>> > I am attempting to play the A-100 with the Ableton Live 7 arpeggiator. It works 
> except
>> > that at random points, there is a "hiccup" in the rhythmic flow.
>> 
>> > I tested the arp with sofsynths and had no problems.
>> 
>> > I have played with the A-140 to see if it effects the timing. 
>> 
>> > I have sent the gate from the 190 straight to the vca.
>> 
>> > I have played with the buffer settings in Live. My MOTU 828 mkII is synced to an 
> Apogee
>> > Big Ben so one would think audio is rock solid. (PPC Mac DP 2.0G, OSX 10.4.11)
>> 
>> > Am I missing something? 
>> 
>> > Nothing useful from the Ableton forums yet. I know this isn't a DAW forum but....
>> 
>> > Any ideas, fixes, etc. would be most appreciated. 
>> 
>> > Thanks in advance.
>> 
>> > Adam G
>> 
>> >
>>

>

>
> Uuups
> 
> > I could imagine that this is an delay caused by an high of the A-190s
> The word "load" is missing here. This should read like:
> 
> ....that this is an delay caused by a high load of the A-190s MIDI 
> buffer due to an large amount of incoming MIDI messages.
> 
> 
> 
> Florian
>

> > The word "load" is missing here. This should read like:
> > 
> > ....that this is an delay caused by a high load of the A-190s MIDI 
> > buffer due to an large amount of incoming MIDI messages.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Florian
> >
>

>
> Hi are the voltages out of the Roland MC-4 safe to use on the A-100  
> modules
> Thanks Dave
>

>
> Hi Adam
> 
> > I'm trying to find a way to filter MIDI data in Live but so far, nothing. 
> No ther is no (but the Sync setting in the preferences)
> 
> > I created a template in the Novation with no Aftertouch hoping that would help but it 
> > didn't.
> > 
> > I'm starting to think a more robust MIDI to CV might be in order? (Sorry Dieter ;-))
> I don't think it is the interface. It is MIDI (internal softsynths are 
> controlled by very faster APIs). Try to connect only the a190 to this 
> MIDI-port (not channel! Port!). And then check your arpeggio.
> 
> It is also well known, that the MIDI timing of ableton is not the best 
> until Version 6.x. Its told that the new Version7 is much better in MIDI 
> timing than the older ones.
> 
> 
> Florian
>

>
> Thanks Adam
> I received my MC4 yesterday so I letting it climate adjust for a few  
> days before powering up
> I cant wait to try out--do you prefer the A154/155 over the MC4?
> 
> thanks Dave
> 
> On 11/01/2008, at 10:25 AM, Adam-V wrote:
> 
> > Hi Dave,
> >
> > the MC-4 output levels are as follows:
> >
> > CV: 0-10.4V (1V/O)
> > Gate/MPX: 0V off 12V On
> > Ext Sync output 0-5V
> >
> > So, I reckon there should be no problems.
> >
> > I haven't used my MC-4 that much since I picked it up, only to give it
> > a bit of a test but it seemed to work fine for me except I couldn't
> > get it sync to an LFO or the clock from the A154/155. Syncing the
> > A-154/155 to the MC-4 clock did work though.
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Adam-V
> > --- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, David Bulog <d2ba@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi are the voltages out of the Roland MC-4 safe to use on the A-100
> > > modules
> > > Thanks Dave
> > >
> >
> > 
> 
> 
> 
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

>
> Florian, thanks.
> 
> I'm running Live 7 and the A100 is alone on its port. 
> 
> I started using Live's external instrument plug-in (with the arp going into it) to trigger the 
> A100 and I have noticed some improvement but not a total fix. Fortunately I can fix the 
> timing of the audio file in Live later. If anyone else has any ideas, please keep them 
> coming. I'd like to solve this issue once and for all. The only rhythm glitches I want are 
> ones I intend, ya dig?  :-)
> 
> Thanks everyone.
> 
> Adam G
> 
> 
> --- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, Florian Anwander <Florian.Anwander@> 
> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Adam
> > 
> > > I'm trying to find a way to filter MIDI data in Live but so far, nothing. 
> > No ther is no (but the Sync setting in the preferences)
> > 
> > > I created a template in the Novation with no Aftertouch hoping that would help but it 
> > > didn't.
> > > 
> > > I'm starting to think a more robust MIDI to CV might be in order? (Sorry Dieter ;-))
> > I don't think it is the interface. It is MIDI (internal softsynths are 
> > controlled by very faster APIs). Try to connect only the a190 to this 
> > MIDI-port (not channel! Port!). And then check your arpeggio.
> > 
> > It is also well known, that the MIDI timing of ableton is not the best 
> > until Version 6.x. Its told that the new Version7 is much better in MIDI 
> > timing than the older ones.
> > 
> > 
> > Florian
> >
>

 From: prikolov <prikolov@yahoo.com>
To: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2012 4:09 AM
Subject: [Doepfer_a100] Re: Can the A-100 and Ableton Live play nice?
 

  
Hi there

since you got the topic, maybe you'd know the answer to my problem
i use live 8 with a100 through a190 and i actually don't get how the clock of a190 work. it runs wild and out of sync (tryed to divide it with a160 - still out of sync). i do send my sync messages from live. want that clock, so i could run sequenser using live's timing. 
am i being too silly and not understanding something obvious? 

Ilja

--- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, "junglephone" <junglephone@...> wrote:
>
> Florian, thanks.
> 
> I'm running Live 7 and the A100 is alone on its port. 
> 
> I started using Live's external instrument plug-in (with the arp going into it) to trigger the 
> A100 and I have noticed some improvement but not a total fix. Fortunately I can fix the 
> timing of the audio file in Live later. If anyone else has any ideas, please keep them 
> coming. I'd like to solve this issue once and for all. The only rhythm glitches I want are 
> ones I intend, ya dig?  :-)
> 
> Thanks everyone.
> 
> Adam G
> 
> 
> --- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, Florian Anwander <Florian.Anwander@> 
> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Adam
> > 
> > > I'm trying to find a way to filter MIDI data in Live but so far, nothing. 
> > No ther is no (but the Sync setting in the preferences)
> > 
> > > I created a template in the Novation with no Aftertouch hoping that would help but it 
> > > didn't.
> > > 
> > > I'm starting to think a more robust MIDI to CV might be in order? (Sorry Dieter ;-))
> > I don't think it is the interface. It is MIDI (internal softsynths are 
> > controlled by very faster APIs). Try to connect only the a190 to this 
> > MIDI-port (not channel! Port!). And then check your arpeggio.
> > 
> > It is also well known, that the MIDI timing of ableton is not the best 
> > until Version 6.x. Its told that the new Version7 is much better in MIDI 
> > timing than the older ones.
> > 
> > 
> > Florian
> >
>


 

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

On 29 Nov 2012, at 11:32, Os <os@collective.co.uk> wrote:

> Better yet, ditch MIDI altogether.
> 
> e.g.
> 
> http://expert-sleepers.co.uk/silentway.html
> http://expert-sleepers.co.uk/hardware.html
> http://www.innerclocksystems.com/New%20ICS%20Lab%20Series.html
> 
> 
> cheers,
> os.
> 
> 
> On 29 November 2012 11:19, Bakis Sirros <synth_freak_2000@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> hi Ilja,
>> 
>> the midi clock is not very accurate when syncing the A100 with the Ableton
>> Live.
>> it helps if you have to use the reset out of the A190, patched to the reset
>> input of the A154+a155 too.
>> 
>> but, again, sometimes the A100 seems synced to midi and sometimes not.
>> 
>> (its a problem of the midi clock, not of the A190)
>> 
>> the best syncing you can get via two cv/gate to midi channels. ( i use the
>> MCV24 for this) :
>> 
>> you create a pattern of 16th notes in a channel of Live and the note gate
>> out from that midi channel, you send it to the clock input of your modular
>> sequencer (A155 for example).
>> then you create a pattern with one note at its very beginning, in another
>> midi channel and you send the note gate from that channel to the reset input
>> of your sequencer. (you can arrange the 'clocking' notes and the 'resetting'
>> note just as you like!) rock solid timing and plenty of crazy clocking and
>> resetting possibilities too. works fine all the time.
>> 
>> (Ingo Zobel gave me that simple and great tip, many years ago...)
>> 
>> thanks,
>> Bakis.
>> 
>> ________________________________
>> From: prikolov <prikolov@yahoo.com>
>> To: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com
>> Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2012 4:09 AM
>> Subject: [Doepfer_a100] Re: Can the A-100 and Ableton Live play nice?
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Hi there
>> 
>> since you got the topic, maybe you'd know the answer to my problem
>> i use live 8 with a100 through a190 and i actually don't get how the clock
>> of a190 work. it runs wild and out of sync (tryed to divide it with a160 -
>> still out of sync). i do send my sync messages from live. want that clock,
>> so i could run sequenser using live's timing.
>> am i being too silly and not understanding something obvious?
>> 
>> Ilja
>> 
>> --- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, "junglephone" <junglephone@...> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Florian, thanks.
>>> 
>>> I'm running Live 7 and the A100 is alone on its port.
>>> 
>>> I started using Live's external instrument plug-in (with the arp going
>>> into it) to trigger the
>>> A100 and I have noticed some improvement but not a total fix. Fortunately
>>> I can fix the
>>> timing of the audio file in Live later. If anyone else has any ideas,
>>> please keep them
>>> coming. I'd like to solve this issue once and for all. The only rhythm
>>> glitches I want are
>>> ones I intend, ya dig? :-)
>>> 
>>> Thanks everyone.
>>> 
>>> Adam G
>>> 
>>> 
>>> --- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, Florian Anwander <Florian.Anwander@>
>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hi Adam
>>>> 
>>>>> I'm trying to find a way to filter MIDI data in Live but so far,
>>>>> nothing.
>>>> No ther is no (but the Sync setting in the preferences)
>>>> 
>>>>> I created a template in the Novation with no Aftertouch hoping that
>>>>> would help but it
>>>>> didn't.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I'm starting to think a more robust MIDI to CV might be in order?
>>>>> (Sorry Dieter ;-))
>>>> I don't think it is the interface. It is MIDI (internal softsynths are
>>>> controlled by very faster APIs). Try to connect only the a190 to this
>>>> MIDI-port (not channel! Port!). And then check your arpeggio.
>>>> 
>>>> It is also well known, that the MIDI timing of ableton is not the best
>>>> until Version 6.x. Its told that the new Version7 is much better in MIDI
>>>> timing than the older ones.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Florian
>>>> 
>>> 
>> 
>> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>> 
>> 
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> os@collective.co.uk
> http://twitter.com/expertsleepers
> http://www.darkroomtheband.net/
> http://www.expert-sleepers.co.uk/
> 
> 
> ------------------------------------
> 
> Yahoo! Groups Links
> 
> 
>

>
> Some midi interfaces are worse than others for timing.  Os has sample accurate solution - rocks. 
> 
> Sent from my fone
> 
> On 29 Nov 2012, at 11:32, Os <os@...> wrote:
> 
> > Better yet, ditch MIDI altogether.
> > 
> > e.g.
> > 
> > http://expert-sleepers.co.uk/silentway.html
> > http://expert-sleepers.co.uk/hardware.html
> > http://www.innerclocksystems.com/New%20ICS%20Lab%20Series.html
> > 
> > 
> > cheers,
> > os.
> > 
> > 
> > On 29 November 2012 11:19, Bakis Sirros <synth_freak_2000@...> wrote:
> >> 
> >> 
> >> hi Ilja,
> >> 
> >> the midi clock is not very accurate when syncing the A100 with the Ableton
> >> Live.
> >> it helps if you have to use the reset out of the A190, patched to the reset
> >> input of the A154+a155 too.
> >> 
> >> but, again, sometimes the A100 seems synced to midi and sometimes not.
> >> 
> >> (its a problem of the midi clock, not of the A190)
> >> 
> >> the best syncing you can get via two cv/gate to midi channels. ( i use the
> >> MCV24 for this) :
> >> 
> >> you create a pattern of 16th notes in a channel of Live and the note gate
> >> out from that midi channel, you send it to the clock input of your modular
> >> sequencer (A155 for example).
> >> then you create a pattern with one note at its very beginning, in another
> >> midi channel and you send the note gate from that channel to the reset input
> >> of your sequencer. (you can arrange the 'clocking' notes and the 'resetting'
> >> note just as you like!) rock solid timing and plenty of crazy clocking and
> >> resetting possibilities too. works fine all the time.
> >> 
> >> (Ingo Zobel gave me that simple and great tip, many years ago...)
> >> 
> >> thanks,
> >> Bakis.
> >> 
> >> ________________________________
> >> From: prikolov <prikolov@...>
> >> To: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com
> >> Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2012 4:09 AM
> >> Subject: [Doepfer_a100] Re: Can the A-100 and Ableton Live play nice?
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> Hi there
> >> 
> >> since you got the topic, maybe you'd know the answer to my problem
> >> i use live 8 with a100 through a190 and i actually don't get how the clock
> >> of a190 work. it runs wild and out of sync (tryed to divide it with a160 -
> >> still out of sync). i do send my sync messages from live. want that clock,
> >> so i could run sequenser using live's timing.
> >> am i being too silly and not understanding something obvious?
> >> 
> >> Ilja
> >> 
> >> --- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, "junglephone" <junglephone@> wrote:
> >>> 
> >>> Florian, thanks.
> >>> 
> >>> I'm running Live 7 and the A100 is alone on its port.
> >>> 
> >>> I started using Live's external instrument plug-in (with the arp going
> >>> into it) to trigger the
> >>> A100 and I have noticed some improvement but not a total fix. Fortunately
> >>> I can fix the
> >>> timing of the audio file in Live later. If anyone else has any ideas,
> >>> please keep them
> >>> coming. I'd like to solve this issue once and for all. The only rhythm
> >>> glitches I want are
> >>> ones I intend, ya dig? :-)
> >>> 
> >>> Thanks everyone.
> >>> 
> >>> Adam G
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>> --- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, Florian Anwander <Florian.Anwander@>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>> 
> >>>> Hi Adam
> >>>> 
> >>>>> I'm trying to find a way to filter MIDI data in Live but so far,
> >>>>> nothing.
> >>>> No ther is no (but the Sync setting in the preferences)
> >>>> 
> >>>>> I created a template in the Novation with no Aftertouch hoping that
> >>>>> would help but it
> >>>>> didn't.
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> I'm starting to think a more robust MIDI to CV might be in order?
> >>>>> (Sorry Dieter ;-))
> >>>> I don't think it is the interface. It is MIDI (internal softsynths are
> >>>> controlled by very faster APIs). Try to connect only the a190 to this
> >>>> MIDI-port (not channel! Port!). And then check your arpeggio.
> >>>> 
> >>>> It is also well known, that the MIDI timing of ableton is not the best
> >>>> until Version 6.x. Its told that the new Version7 is much better in MIDI
> >>>> timing than the older ones.
> >>>> 
> >>>> 
> >>>> Florian
> >>>> 
> >>> 
> >> 
> >> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >> 
> >> 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > -- 
> > os@...
> > http://twitter.com/expertsleepers
> > http://www.darkroomtheband.net/
> > http://www.expert-sleepers.co.uk/
> > 
> > 
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> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> > 
> > 
> >
>