Doepfer

Y-cables will do the same thing.  They even make one with three inputs/ 
outputs.  I guess you could call it a pitchfork cable.  And you can  
stack them for unboundedly many summands/splits.

Monroe

--- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, <yahoo@...> wrote:
>
> > Y-cables will do the same thing.  They even make one with three 
inputs/
> > outputs.  I guess you could call it a pitchfork cable.  And you 
can
> > stack them for unboundedly many summands/splits.
> >
> > Monroe
> 
> Of course this is an alternatives to multiples. But you will need 
different
> types of Y or pitchfork cables to cover all applications (i.e. 
different
> combinations of cable length and number of "fork teeth"). A 
multiple is much
> more flexible in this regard as you can combine it with the patch 
cables you
> want.
> 
> Best wishes
> Dieter Doepfer
>

I use both. Y-cables for more permanent routings and multiples for 
more contingent patches. I, personally, would find it difficult to 
use just Y-cables. It would be possible but not that 
easy/fast/flexible way for me.

- Markus

> Y-cables will do the same thing.  They even make one with three inputs/
> outputs.  I guess you could call it a pitchfork cable.  And you can
> stack them for unboundedly many summands/splits.
>
> Monroe

Of course this is an alternatives to multiples. But you will need different
types of Y or pitchfork cables to cover all applications (i.e. different
combinations of cable length and number of "fork teeth"). A multiple is much
more flexible in this regard as you can combine it with the patch cables you
want.

Best wishes
Dieter Doepfer

who does y-cables in germany, anyone know?

stu

www.thomann.de? Might be on request thou.

--- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, "Stu Grimshaw" <grimshaw@...> wrote:

>
> who does y-cables in germany, anyone know?
> 
> stu
>

I don't, but you might be able to order online from  
www.radioshack.com.  It should be a good deal due to the dollar/euro  
exchange rate.

Monroe

On Aug 27, 2008, at 10:57 AM, Stu Grimshaw wrote:

> who does y-cables in germany, anyone know?
>
> stu
>
>
> 



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http://www.thomann.de/dk/the_sssnake_1852_yadapter.htm

Might be useful...

On Wed, Aug 27, 2008 at 9:39 PM, ysinollaysi <ysinollaysi@hotmail.com> wrote:
> www.thomann.de? Might be on request thou.
>
> --- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, "Stu Grimshaw" <grimshaw@...> wrote:
>>
>> who does y-cables in germany, anyone know?
>>
>> stu
>>
>
>

Oops - sorry. That was a 1/4" jack splitter. They don't seem to have
3.5mm splitters in mono.

On Wed, Aug 27, 2008 at 10:00 PM, Silas Johansen <sijodk@gmail.com> wrote:
> http://www.thomann.de/dk/the_sssnake_1852_yadapter.htm
>
> Might be useful...
>
> On Wed, Aug 27, 2008 at 9:39 PM, ysinollaysi <ysinollaysi@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> www.thomann.de? Might be on request thou.
>>
>> --- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, "Stu Grimshaw" <grimshaw@...> wrote:
>>>
>>> who does y-cables in germany, anyone know?
>>>
>>> stu
>>>
>>
>> 
>

...they do have it - I bought it from Thomann last year...

2008/8/27 Silas Johansen <sijodk@gmail.com>

>   Oops - sorry. That was a 1/4" jack splitter. They don't seem to have
> 3.5mm splitters in mono.
>


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i think an adapter plug would be too much of a strain on the sockets,
which are very susceptible to damage anyway.

mostly i'm happy with multiples, but a y-cable would be better for
those simple splits that we need so often.

here is a better idea, the mega-multiple:

an 8hp panel three columns (a,b and c) of eight sockets.
row 1, columnn a is connected to 1b and 1c, and is also normalled to 2a.
2a is connected to 2b and 2c and is normalled to 3a etc.
putting a plug into 2a disconnects it from 1a.

you now have a very flexible multiple:
eight times 1 into two.
four times 1 into four
two times 1 into eight
one time 1 into 16
and of course combinations of the above.

this wins the award for the most unspectacular module suggestion of
the year, but dieter, i promise you'll be knighted if you build it.

cheers,

stu

Good idea. But it would be even nicer if it would then be active splitters!
;-)


On Thu, Aug 28, 2008 at 12:31 PM, Stu Grimshaw <grimshaw@stugrimshaw.com>wrote:

>   i think an adapter plug would be too much of a strain on the sockets,
> which are very susceptible to damage anyway.
>
> mostly i'm happy with multiples, but a y-cable would be better for
> those simple splits that we need so often.
>
> here is a better idea, the mega-multiple:
>
> an 8hp panel three columns (a,b and c) of eight sockets.
> row 1, columnn a is connected to 1b and 1c, and is also normalled to 2a.
> 2a is connected to 2b and 2c and is normalled to 3a etc.
> putting a plug into 2a disconnects it from 1a.
>
> you now have a very flexible multiple:
> eight times 1 into two.
> four times 1 into four
> two times 1 into eight
> one time 1 into 16
> and of course combinations of the above.
>
> this wins the award for the most unspectacular module suggestion of
> the year, but dieter, i promise you'll be knighted if you build it.
>
> cheers,
>
> stu
>
>  
>


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The A182 switched multiples are quite a nice thing and offer more  
flexibility and functionality than Y cables.  Daisy-chaining several  
of them together will give you many options and cover everything you  
mention below.  But for normal multiples like the A180, Y cables will  
usually do an equivalent job without taking up space in your rack.   
But multiples may have ergonomic advantages in certain situations.

Y cables are probably sold the most to people who want to share the  
audio signal from their mp3 player, so they should be available from a  
number of standard retailers who are not necessarily focused on  
electronic music.  As mentioned before, the American chain store Radio  
Shack has several options in the 3.5mm realm.  They are one of the few  
massive chain stores I am glad to have around, as they stock  
everything from cell phones to soldering irons.

On Aug 28, 2008, at 5:31 AM, Stu Grimshaw wrote:

> i think an adapter plug would be too much of a strain on the sockets,
> which are very susceptible to damage anyway.
>
> mostly i'm happy with multiples, but a y-cable would be better for
> those simple splits that we need so often.
>
> here is a better idea, the mega-multiple:
>
> an 8hp panel three columns (a,b and c) of eight sockets.
> row 1, columnn a is connected to 1b and 1c, and is also normalled to  
> 2a.
> 2a is connected to 2b and 2c and is normalled to 3a etc.
> putting a plug into 2a disconnects it from 1a.
>
> you now have a very flexible multiple:
> eight times 1 into two.
> four times 1 into four
> two times 1 into eight
> one time 1 into 16
> and of course combinations of the above.
>
> this wins the award for the most unspectacular module suggestion of
> the year, but dieter, i promise you'll be knighted if you build it.
>
> cheers,
>
> stu
>
>
> 



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> Good idea. But it would be even nicer if it would then be active
splitters!

an active version would certainly have its merits. i wonder how much
that would add to the cost.

stu