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New Modular User: Will this work?

2009-04-22 by gregory cerveny

I've been picking up modules here and there (some of them from this board) to build my first modular system.  I don't really know what I'm doing, but I've been reading through the manufacturer descriptions as I scope out pieces.  

Right now I have collected:
a111 VCO
a120 VCF
a131 VCA
a141 VCASDR
a147 VCLFO

I think this is enough for the unit to make noise.  Provided, of course, that I pick up a case/power and patch cable set.

I am also wondering if I can use the gate triggers off my tr-606 to sequence monotone patterns on this setup.  

Advice on anything I might be missing or using the tr-606 would be appreciated.

Thanks!
Greg

Re: New Modular User: Will this work?

2009-04-22 by Keld Sørensen

You were going to write "subtractive" synth signal path - right?

Keld

--- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, "Guy Drieghe D." <guy@...> wrote:
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>
> 
> An excellent basic setup, Greg -- a "regular" additive synth signal  
> path.
> It's good that you've opted for voltage controlled EG and LFO; gives  
> you a bit more to play with.
> 
> The 606 outputs +14V triggers, isn't it ?
> Although I think it wouldn't hurt connecting this to the A-141 gate  
> input, it might be too high for the A-100 system -- better check with  
> Dieter first.
> 
> 
> Have fun !
> 
> _Guy
> 
> 
> 
> On 22 Apr 2009, at 06:02, gregory cerveny wrote:
> > I've been picking up modules here and there (some of them from this  
> > board) to build my first modular system. I don't really know what  
> > I'm doing, but I've been reading through the manufacturer  
> > descriptions as I scope out pieces.
> >
> > Right now I have collected:
> > a111 VCO
> > a120 VCF
> > a131 VCA
> > a141 VCASDR
> > a147 VCLFO
> >
> > I think this is enough for the unit to make noise. Provided, of  
> > course, that I pick up a case/power and patch cable set.
> >
> > I am also wondering if I can use the gate triggers off my tr-606 to  
> > sequence monotone patterns on this setup.
> >
> > Advice on anything I might be missing or using the tr-606 would be  
> > appreciated.
> >
> > Thanks!
> > Greg
> >
>

Re: [Doepfer_a100] New Modular User: Will this work?

2009-04-22 by Guy Drieghe D.

An excellent basic setup, Greg -- a "regular" additive synth signal  
path.
It's good that you've opted for voltage controlled EG and LFO; gives  
you a bit more to play with.

The 606 outputs +14V triggers, isn't it ?
Although I think it wouldn't hurt connecting this to the A-141 gate  
input, it might be too high for the A-100 system -- better check with  
Dieter first.


Have fun !

_Guy
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On 22 Apr 2009, at 06:02, gregory cerveny wrote:
> I've been picking up modules here and there (some of them from this  
> board) to build my first modular system. I don't really know what  
> I'm doing, but I've been reading through the manufacturer  
> descriptions as I scope out pieces.
>
> Right now I have collected:
> a111 VCO
> a120 VCF
> a131 VCA
> a141 VCASDR
> a147 VCLFO
>
> I think this is enough for the unit to make noise. Provided, of  
> course, that I pick up a case/power and patch cable set.
>
> I am also wondering if I can use the gate triggers off my tr-606 to  
> sequence monotone patterns on this setup.
>
> Advice on anything I might be missing or using the tr-606 would be  
> appreciated.
>
> Thanks!
> Greg
>

Re: [Doepfer_a100] New Modular User: Will this work?

2009-04-22 by Florian Anwander

Hi Gregory

> Right now I have collected:
> a111 VCO
> a120 VCF
> a131 VCA
> a141 VCASDR
> a147 VCLFO
> 
> I think this is enough for the unit to make noise.  
Yes, but if you don't have any keyboard with analogue CV and gate out, 
then you won't be able to play different notes or melodies.

The ADSR and the LFO do not need to be necessarily voltage controlled 
(will depend on what you want to do). I personally would recommend the 
A-143-3 Quad LFO, which is 100 Euro for 4 (four!) LFOs instead of 80 
Euros for a single VCLFO.

> ...sequence monotone patterns ...  
As written above:
These patterns will be truely monotone, because you do not have anything 
that will change the pitch in sequenced steps.
If you are not bound to tonal and melodic patterns then the A-148 Dual 
Sample&Hold in combination with one of the LFOs of A-143-3 would be a 
nice pattern generator (though not predictable, but nevertheless in some 
more complex way repetitive).

Florian

Re: [Doepfer_a100] Re: New Modular User: Will this work?

2009-04-22 by Greg Cerveny

Thanks for all the feedback.  I didn't think about the volts on the
606.  Looking it up it appears to be 15.

"Each trigger is a positive 15 Volt, 20 millisecond pulse suitable for
activating either the Trigger or Gate inputs of most major brands of
equipment."

Thinking about this, I realized I also have an Arp Axxe that I think I
could use as a CV/gate source to give it a run.  I'll have to research
the voltage on that as well.

I'm primarily interested in getting this thing to generate some test
tones.  Ultimately, I'll end up driving it with a step sequencer or
clock/divider/switch thing.  It seems it's just a matter of giving all
my money to Doepfer one chunk at a time.

On Wed, Apr 22, 2009 at 5:56 AM, Keld Sørensen
<keldsorensen@mail1.stofanet.dk> wrote:
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>
> You were going to write "subtractive" synth signal path - right?
>
> Keld
>
> --- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, "Guy Drieghe D." <guy@...> wrote:
>>
>>
>> An excellent basic setup, Greg -- a "regular" additive synth signal
>> path.
>> It's good that you've opted for voltage controlled EG and LFO; gives
>> you a bit more to play with.
>>
>> The 606 outputs +14V triggers, isn't it ?
>> Although I think it wouldn't hurt connecting this to the A-141 gate
>> input, it might be too high for the A-100 system -- better check with
>> Dieter first.
>>
>>
>> Have fun !
>>
>> _Guy
>>
>>
>>
>> On 22 Apr 2009, at 06:02, gregory cerveny wrote:
>> > I've been picking up modules here and there (some of them from this
>> > board) to build my first modular system. I don't really know what
>> > I'm doing, but I've been reading through the manufacturer
>> > descriptions as I scope out pieces.
>> >
>> > Right now I have collected:
>> > a111 VCO
>> > a120 VCF
>> > a131 VCA
>> > a141 VCASDR
>> > a147 VCLFO
>> >
>> > I think this is enough for the unit to make noise. Provided, of
>> > course, that I pick up a case/power and patch cable set.
>> >
>> > I am also wondering if I can use the gate triggers off my tr-606 to
>> > sequence monotone patterns on this setup.
>> >
>> > Advice on anything I might be missing or using the tr-606 would be
>> > appreciated.
>> >
>> > Thanks!
>> > Greg
>> >
>>
>
>

Re: [Doepfer_a100] Re: New Modular User: Will this work?

2009-04-22 by Guy Drieghe D.

Oops ! Major fail.
That happens when you're dealing with RGB & CMYK all day and night.
Sorry.

_g
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On 22 Apr 2009, at 13:56, Keld Sørensen wrote:

>
>
> You were going to write "subtractive" synth signal path - right?
>
> Keld
>
> --- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, "Guy Drieghe D." <guy@...> wrote:
> >
> >
> > An excellent basic setup, Greg -- a "regular" additive synth signal
> > path.
> > It's good that you've opted for voltage controlled EG and LFO; gives
> > you a bit more to play with.
> >
> > The 606 outputs +14V triggers, isn't it ?
> > Although I think it wouldn't hurt connecting this to the A-141 gate
> > input, it might be too high for the A-100 system -- better check  
> with
> > Dieter first.
> >
> >
> > Have fun !
> >
> > _Guy
> >
> >
> >
> > On 22 Apr 2009, at 06:02, gregory cerveny wrote:
> > > I've been picking up modules here and there (some of them from  
> this
> > > board) to build my first modular system. I don't really know what
> > > I'm doing, but I've been reading through the manufacturer
> > > descriptions as I scope out pieces.
> > >
> > > Right now I have collected:
> > > a111 VCO
> > > a120 VCF
> > > a131 VCA
> > > a141 VCASDR
> > > a147 VCLFO
> > >
> > > I think this is enough for the unit to make noise. Provided, of
> > > course, that I pick up a case/power and patch cable set.
> > >
> > > I am also wondering if I can use the gate triggers off my tr-606  
> to
> > > sequence monotone patterns on this setup.
> > >
> > > Advice on anything I might be missing or using the tr-606 would be
> > > appreciated.
> > >
> > > Thanks!
> > > Greg
> > >
> >
>
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Re: [Doepfer_a100] Re: New Modular User: Will this work?

2009-04-22 by Guy Drieghe D.

Greg,

The Axxe is perfect as a controller for your Doepfer.
The Gate/Trigger/CV outputs are fine, and you can
control the Axxe from your Doepfer as well.


_g
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On 22 Apr 2009, at 17:48, Greg Cerveny wrote:

>
>
> Thanks for all the feedback. I didn't think about the volts on the
> 606. Looking it up it appears to be 15.
>
> "Each trigger is a positive 15 Volt, 20 millisecond pulse suitable for
> activating either the Trigger or Gate inputs of most major brands of
> equipment."
>
> Thinking about this, I realized I also have an Arp Axxe that I think I
> could use as a CV/gate source to give it a run. I'll have to research
> the voltage on that as well.
>
> I'm primarily interested in getting this thing to generate some test
> tones. Ultimately, I'll end up driving it with a step sequencer or
> clock/divider/switch thing. It seems it's just a matter of giving all
> my money to Doepfer one chunk at a time.
>
> On Wed, Apr 22, 2009 at 5:56 AM, Keld Sørensen
> <keldsorensen@mail1.stofanet.dk> wrote:
> >
> >
> > You were going to write "subtractive" synth signal path - right?
> >
> > Keld
> >
> > --- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, "Guy Drieghe D." <guy@...>  
> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >> An excellent basic setup, Greg -- a "regular" additive synth signal
> >> path.
> >> It's good that you've opted for voltage controlled EG and LFO;  
> gives
> >> you a bit more to play with.
> >>
> >> The 606 outputs +14V triggers, isn't it ?
> >> Although I think it wouldn't hurt connecting this to the A-141 gate
> >> input, it might be too high for the A-100 system -- better check  
> with
> >> Dieter first.
> >>
> >>
> >> Have fun !
> >>
> >> _Guy
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On 22 Apr 2009, at 06:02, gregory cerveny wrote:
> >> > I've been picking up modules here and there (some of them from  
> this
> >> > board) to build my first modular system. I don't really know what
> >> > I'm doing, but I've been reading through the manufacturer
> >> > descriptions as I scope out pieces.
> >> >
> >> > Right now I have collected:
> >> > a111 VCO
> >> > a120 VCF
> >> > a131 VCA
> >> > a141 VCASDR
> >> > a147 VCLFO
> >> >
> >> > I think this is enough for the unit to make noise. Provided, of
> >> > course, that I pick up a case/power and patch cable set.
> >> >
> >> > I am also wondering if I can use the gate triggers off my  
> tr-606 to
> >> > sequence monotone patterns on this setup.
> >> >
> >> > Advice on anything I might be missing or using the tr-606 would  
> be
> >> > appreciated.
> >> >
> >> > Thanks!
> >> > Greg
> >> >
> >>

Re: [Doepfer_a100] Re: New Modular User: Will this work?

2009-04-23 by achtung_999

Hello,
Interesting to hear about the TR606.
I have been using a friend's 606 with my Doepfer several times and it
did not leave any damages.
Are you guys sure it's 15 volts?

grtzz
Ernst
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On Wed, Apr 22, 2009 at 5:59 PM, Guy Drieghe D. <guy@guyd2.com> wrote:
>
> Oops ! Major fail.
> That happens when you're dealing with RGB & CMYK all day and night.
> Sorry.
>
> _g
>
>
>
>
> On 22 Apr 2009, at 13:56, Keld Sørensen wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> You were going to write "subtractive" synth signal path - right?
>>
>> Keld
>>
>> --- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, "Guy Drieghe D." <guy@...> wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> > An excellent basic setup, Greg -- a "regular" additive synth signal
>> > path.
>> > It's good that you've opted for voltage controlled EG and LFO; gives
>> > you a bit more to play with.
>> >
>> > The 606 outputs +14V triggers, isn't it ?
>> > Although I think it wouldn't hurt connecting this to the A-141 gate
>> > input, it might be too high for the A-100 system -- better check
>> with
>> > Dieter first.
>> >
>> >
>> > Have fun !
>> >
>> > _Guy
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On 22 Apr 2009, at 06:02, gregory cerveny wrote:
>> > > I've been picking up modules here and there (some of them from
>> this
>> > > board) to build my first modular system. I don't really know what
>> > > I'm doing, but I've been reading through the manufacturer
>> > > descriptions as I scope out pieces.
>> > >
>> > > Right now I have collected:
>> > > a111 VCO
>> > > a120 VCF
>> > > a131 VCA
>> > > a141 VCASDR
>> > > a147 VCLFO
>> > >
>> > > I think this is enough for the unit to make noise. Provided, of
>> > > course, that I pick up a case/power and patch cable set.
>> > >
>> > > I am also wondering if I can use the gate triggers off my tr-606
>> to
>> > > sequence monotone patterns on this setup.
>> > >
>> > > Advice on anything I might be missing or using the tr-606 would be
>> > > appreciated.
>> > >
>> > > Thanks!
>> > > Greg
>> > >
>> >
>>
>>
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Re: [Doepfer_a100] Re: New Modular User: Will this work?

2009-04-23 by Florian Anwander

Hi Ernst,

> I have been using a friend's 606 with my Doepfer several times and it
> did not leave any damages.
> Are you guys sure it's 15 volts?
I had a look at the schematics, and it could be +15 Volts (does not have 
to be, but at least the output stage would make it possible).

Florian

Re: [Doepfer_a100] Re: New Modular User: Will this work?

2009-04-23 by achtung_999

Thanks Florian, I'll try to borrow the machine soon. Then I can measure it..

grtz

Ernst




On Thu, Apr 23, 2009 at 2:20 PM, Florian Anwander
<fanwander@mnet-online.de> wrote:
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>
>
> Hi Ernst,
>
>> I have been using a friend's 606 with my Doepfer several times and it
>> did not leave any damages.
>> Are you guys sure it's 15 volts?
> I had a look at the schematics, and it could be +15 Volts (does not have
> to be, but at least the output stage would make it possible).
>
> Florian
>
>

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