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Re: info from doepfer!about the ribbon controller andsensor keyboard and more...

Re: info from doepfer!about the ribbon controller andsensor keyboard and more...

2002-07-18 by andrewdalio

Just a thought - if a device is CALLED the touch keyboard/sequencer, 
shouldn't it HAVE a touch keyboard and a sequencer? As the others have 
already said, there are plenty keyboard controllers out there (heck, 
Doepfer ALREADY makes a bunch of them). I much prefer to have an 
alternate controller, as I hate keyboards - not to mention being a 
mediocre key player... (am currently using Marimba Lumina, analog 
sequencers, bass guitars, etc...). More to the point, when asked if I 
play keyboards, I always reply, "No, I play synthesizer...."

-andrew bunny

RE: [Doepfer_a100] info from doepfer!about the ribbon controller andsensor keyboard and more...

2002-07-18 by David Salter

Hi Bakis and the rest of the group,
 
Touch plates or nothing (a bit strong maybe, but I have a mechanical keyboard for controlling my modular (SH101) and I have two A155 sequencers).
 
I am interested in alternative controllers.
 
I also can't wait for A198, money reserved in the bank for the release date : )
 
 

David Salter 
Reuters Consulting 
Tel: +44 20 7542 2402 
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Fax: +44 20 7542 2699 
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	-----Original Message-----
	From: bakis Sirros [mailto:synth_freak_2000@yahoo.com] 
	Sent: 17 July 2002 23:39
	To: Doepfer_a100 group
	Subject: [Doepfer_a100] info from doepfer!about the ribbon controller andsensor keyboard and more...
	
	
	hi list,
	some new info from dieter:
	"BAKIS:also, any news about the ribbon
	controller??when it will be released?? 
	DIETER:The A-198 is finished but we are waiting for
	the case prototype of our case manufacturer. As soon
	as we receive the first case and everything is OK the
	A-198 will go into production. I hope that the A-198
	will be available in September or October too. Last
	week Florian Schneider visited us to discuss details
	of the A-198. He would like to have a MIDI version of
	the A-198 so that MIDI equipment could be controlled
	by the ribbon/Trautonium controller too. So we think
	about a MIDI interface for the A-198. The A-192 could
	not be used as a much higher resolution for the pitch
	is necessary. By the way: Kraftwerk will play in
	September in Paris but both concerts are already sold
	out. Florian will play an A-198 if it is available in
	time.
	
	BAKIS:and,of course,what interests me,what about the
	sensor keyboard,any news?? 
	DIETER:This is still our "problem child" as we have so
	many completely contradictory suggestions from the
	customers. Whatever version we will produce many
	customers  will be dissatisfied as their suggestions
	are not realized. We never had this situation before.
	We will have to lay down "our" version of the keyboard
	well knowing that many customers will complain. In the
	meantime many customers suggested to use a standard
	keyboard (with moving keys) instead of the touch
	sensors as this would be much cheaper and easier to
	use. And I have to agree partially: it is much easier
	to play a melody on a standard keyboard than on the
	touch keyboard as you have no mechanical reference
	(like the higher black keys or the rims of a pressed
	key) on the touch keyboard. A lot of "mistakes" occur
	if you play not very exactly. E.g. when you touch the
	neighbouring touch plate unintentionally a wrong tone
	may appear. With a normal keyboard this happens not
	that easy because you have to move the key.
	
	BAKIS:also,about the space mouse controller...will you
	release it??? 
	DIETER:No. The space mouse controller will not be
	released as the data transfer rate is too small for
	useful musical applications. The manufacturer of the
	space mouse tried to increase the data rate but they
	had no success. For graphic computer applications the
	data rate is OK but not for musical control
	applications.
	
	Best wishes
	Dieter Doepfer
	Doepfer Musikelektronik GmbH
	http://www.doepfer.de
	email: hardware@doepfer.de "
	
	so......any comments???I BELIEVE THAT THE SENSOR
	KEYBOARD MUST BE WITH METALPLATES!!!!WHY WOULD ANYONE
	WANT A STANDARD KEYBOARD,WHEN THERE ARE SO MANY OUT
	THERE??????????I REALLY HOPE THAT THIS METAL PLATES
	SENSOR KEYBOARD WILL BE RELEASED AND NOT SOME DULL
	ORDINARY STANDARD KEYBOARD...........I HOPE YOU AGREE
	WITH ME ON THIS...AFTER ALL THIS IS SUPPOSED TO BE AN
	ALTERNATIVE CONTROLLER,RIGHT??????o.k.,it's my
	opinion...
	bakis.
	
	
	
	
	
	
	=====
	synthfreak(parallel worlds)
	athens-greece
	[Doepfer_a100] group owner-moderator
	
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Re: [Doepfer_a100] Re: info from doepfer!about the ribbon controller andsensor keyboard and more...

2002-07-18 by Paul Schulz

I agee with you in _every_ point, Andrew!

P.
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  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: andrewdalio 
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  Sent: Thursday, July 18, 2002 12:22 PM
  Subject: [Doepfer_a100] Re: info from doepfer!about the ribbon controller andsensor keyboard and more...


  Just a thought - if a device is CALLED the touch keyboard/sequencer, 
  shouldn't it HAVE a touch keyboard and a sequencer? As the others have 
  already said, there are plenty keyboard controllers out there (heck, 
  Doepfer ALREADY makes a bunch of them). I much prefer to have an 
  alternate controller, as I hate keyboards - not to mention being a 
  mediocre key player... (am currently using Marimba Lumina, analog 
  sequencers, bass guitars, etc...). More to the point, when asked if I 
  play keyboards, I always reply, "No, I play synthesizer...."

  -andrew bunny



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