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Re:what is best SEM to order with patch panel or midi to CV

Re:what is best SEM to order with patch panel or midi to CV

2009-10-30 by nicholas kent

>
> > ideally I want to make a two voice --what should I buy
> >
> > http://www.audiomidi.com/Synthesizer-Expander-Module-with-MIDI-to- 
> CV-Panel-P12455.aspx
> >
> > http://www.audiomidi.com/Synthesizer-Expander-Module-with-Patch- 
> Panel-P12454.aspx
> >
> >
> >
> > thanks in advance
> > David

Considering this is a modular forum I think the MIDI to CV panel  
version would be the least popular of the 3 choices available.
But you do have an interesting and tricky question given you want to  
eventually make a two voice.

Do you already have a MIDI to CV interface? That's obviously and  
important piece of info though some people don't use a keyboard by  
choice (though by you asking this question I'm pretty sure you aren't  
one) and some rare people have a native CV keyboard already and don't  
use MIDI, but that's rare.

I assume you want to play duophonically, you know, have 2 different  
keys play 2 different notes one to a SEM rather than have 2 voices in  
unison? For two voices in unison the answers is fairly simple, get  
one of each.

Right now I'm not reading about Tom Oberheim having a polyphonic  
strategy for his new SEMs. Some monophonic units have a switchable  
feature that counts voices in polyphony by some means so you could  
make several mono instruments behave respond like a poly instrument  
when properly configured. But I'm not seeing that reading the specs.  
Maybe someone who has a new SEM has found it.

So if I'm correct and Tom is taking things a step at a time rather  
than having a bigger plan I see the following possibilities.

A) right now one could build a MAX patch or similar custom program on  
a computer to turn a polyphonic line into multiple MIDI channels in  
real time. There might be something hardware or software to do that  
but I don't know of one. One could also get an external MIDI to CV  
interface that does multiple channels. The ones that do will have a  
mode for polyphony. I actually have a seemingly very rare 1980s JL  
Cooper 8 voice MIDI to CV unit that seems to have been designed  
partly or mostly for Oberheim 8 Voice owners and I guess people with  
many monosynths. Given there are not that many I doubt many units  
were built or sold though obviously someone bought my second hand unit.

B) Tom Oberheim might release an update to his midi to cv that does  
some sort of skipping, if I'm assuming correctly that his doesn't now  
and there are no hardware limitations that stop him.

C) Tom Oberheim or some third party releases a poly hardware  
solution. Maybe a chassis for SEMs with additional hardware? Maybe a  
4th version with master features?

nick

Re: [Doepfer_a100] Re:what is best SEM to order with patch panel or midi to CV

2009-10-30 by David Bulog

Nick
Thanks for detailed response to my question----I have two Kenton Pro  
solo mk2 midi -CV converters which are nice units--I want to play duo  
just like the origional 2 voice
On 30/10/2009, at 11:06 PM, nicholas kent wrote:

> >
> > > ideally I want to make a two voice --what should I buy
> > >
> > > http://www.audiomidi.com/Synthesizer-Expander-Module-with-MIDI-to-
> > CV-Panel-P12455.aspx
> > >
> > > http://www.audiomidi.com/Synthesizer-Expander-Module-with-Patch-
> > Panel-P12454.aspx
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > thanks in advance
> > > David
>
> Considering this is a modular forum I think the MIDI to CV panel
> version would be the least popular of the 3 choices available.
> But you do have an interesting and tricky question given you want to
> eventually make a two voice.
>
> Do you already have a MIDI to CV interface? That's obviously and
> important piece of info though some people don't use a keyboard by
> choice (though by you asking this question I'm pretty sure you aren't
> one) and some rare people have a native CV keyboard already and don't
> use MIDI, but that's rare.
>
> I assume you want to play duophonically, you know, have 2 different
> keys play 2 different notes one to a SEM rather than have 2 voices in
> unison? For two voices in unison the answers is fairly simple, get
> one of each.
>
> Right now I'm not reading about Tom Oberheim having a polyphonic
> strategy for his new SEMs. Some monophonic units have a switchable
> feature that counts voices in polyphony by some means so you could
> make several mono instruments behave respond like a poly instrument
> when properly configured. But I'm not seeing that reading the specs.
> Maybe someone who has a new SEM has found it.
>
> So if I'm correct and Tom is taking things a step at a time rather
> than having a bigger plan I see the following possibilities.
>
> A) right now one could build a MAX patch or similar custom program on
> a computer to turn a polyphonic line into multiple MIDI channels in
> real time. There might be something hardware or software to do that
> but I don't know of one. One could also get an external MIDI to CV
> interface that does multiple channels. The ones that do will have a
> mode for polyphony. I actually have a seemingly very rare 1980s JL
> Cooper 8 voice MIDI to CV unit that seems to have been designed
> partly or mostly for Oberheim 8 Voice owners and I guess people with
> many monosynths. Given there are not that many I doubt many units
> were built or sold though obviously someone bought my second hand  
> unit.
>
> B) Tom Oberheim might release an update to his midi to cv that does
> some sort of skipping, if I'm assuming correctly that his doesn't now
> and there are no hardware limitations that stop him.
>
> C) Tom Oberheim or some third party releases a poly hardware
> solution. Maybe a chassis for SEMs with additional hardware? Maybe a
> 4th version with master features?
>
> nick
>
> 



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Re: [Doepfer_a100] Re:what is best SEM to order with patch panel or midi to CV

2009-10-30 by Bakis Sirros

for polyphonic midi to cv, you can use the Kenton Pro 4, or the (great) Doepfer MCV24.

i use the Doepfer mcv24 to control my OB Four Voice sem modular, in poly mode.



Bakis Sirros - Parallel Worlds / Interconnected / Memory Geist

[Doepfer_a100] group owner

www. parallel - worlds - music. com

www. myspace. com/ parallelworldsmusic

www. myspace. com/ interconnectedmusic

www. myspace. com/ memorygeist

www. DiN. org. uk

www. musicamaximamagnetica. com

www. shimarecords. co. uk

www. rubberrecords. gr

Athens - Greece

--- On Fri, 10/30/09, David Bulog <d2ba@xtra.co.nz> wrote:
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Subject: Re: [Doepfer_a100] Re:what is best SEM to order with patch panel or midi to CV
To: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com
Date: Friday, October 30, 2009, 12:38 PM






 




    
                  Nick

Thanks for detailed response to my question---- I have two Kenton Pro  

solo mk2 midi -CV converters which are nice units--I want to play duo  

just like the origional 2 voice

On 30/10/2009, at 11:06 PM, nicholas kent wrote:



> >

> > > ideally I want to make a two voice --what should I buy

> > >

> > > http://www.audiomid i.com/Synthesize r-Expander- Module-with- MIDI-to-

> > CV-Panel-P12455. aspx

> > >

> > > http://www.audiomid i.com/Synthesize r-Expander- Module-with- Patch-

> > Panel-P12454. aspx

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > thanks in advance

> > > David

>

> Considering this is a modular forum I think the MIDI to CV panel

> version would be the least popular of the 3 choices available.

> But you do have an interesting and tricky question given you want to

> eventually make a two voice.

>

> Do you already have a MIDI to CV interface? That's obviously and

> important piece of info though some people don't use a keyboard by

> choice (though by you asking this question I'm pretty sure you aren't

> one) and some rare people have a native CV keyboard already and don't

> use MIDI, but that's rare.

>

> I assume you want to play duophonically, you know, have 2 different

> keys play 2 different notes one to a SEM rather than have 2 voices in

> unison? For two voices in unison the answers is fairly simple, get

> one of each.

>

> Right now I'm not reading about Tom Oberheim having a polyphonic

> strategy for his new SEMs. Some monophonic units have a switchable

> feature that counts voices in polyphony by some means so you could

> make several mono instruments behave respond like a poly instrument

> when properly configured. But I'm not seeing that reading the specs.

> Maybe someone who has a new SEM has found it.

>

> So if I'm correct and Tom is taking things a step at a time rather

> than having a bigger plan I see the following possibilities.

>

> A) right now one could build a MAX patch or similar custom program on

> a computer to turn a polyphonic line into multiple MIDI channels in

> real time. There might be something hardware or software to do that

> but I don't know of one. One could also get an external MIDI to CV

> interface that does multiple channels. The ones that do will have a

> mode for polyphony. I actually have a seemingly very rare 1980s JL

> Cooper 8 voice MIDI to CV unit that seems to have been designed

> partly or mostly for Oberheim 8 Voice owners and I guess people with

> many monosynths. Given there are not that many I doubt many units

> were built or sold though obviously someone bought my second hand  

> unit.

>

> B) Tom Oberheim might release an update to his midi to cv that does

> some sort of skipping, if I'm assuming correctly that his doesn't now

> and there are no hardware limitations that stop him.

>

> C) Tom Oberheim or some third party releases a poly hardware

> solution. Maybe a chassis for SEMs with additional hardware? Maybe a

> 4th version with master features?

>

> nick

>

> 



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Re: [Doepfer_a100] Re:what is best SEM to order with patch panel or midi to CV

2009-10-30 by Bakis Sirros

or, of course, the forthcoming Doepfer A190-3 polyphonic midi to cv interface module!
http://www.doepfer.de/a1903.htm



Bakis Sirros - Parallel Worlds / Interconnected / Memory Geist

[Doepfer_a100] group owner

www. parallel - worlds - music. com

www. myspace. com/ parallelworldsmusic

www. myspace. com/ interconnectedmusic

www. myspace. com/ memorygeist

www. DiN. org. uk

www. musicamaximamagnetica. com

www. shimarecords. co. uk

www. rubberrecords. gr

Athens - Greece

--- On Fri, 10/30/09, David Bulog <d2ba@xtra.co.nz> wrote:
Show quoted textHide quoted text
From: David Bulog <d2ba@xtra.co.nz>
Subject: Re: [Doepfer_a100] Re:what is best SEM to order with patch panel or midi to CV
To: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com
Date: Friday, October 30, 2009, 12:38 PM






 




    
                  Nick

Thanks for detailed response to my question---- I have two Kenton Pro  

solo mk2 midi -CV converters which are nice units--I want to play duo  

just like the origional 2 voice

On 30/10/2009, at 11:06 PM, nicholas kent wrote:



> >

> > > ideally I want to make a two voice --what should I buy

> > >

> > > http://www.audiomid i.com/Synthesize r-Expander- Module-with- MIDI-to-

> > CV-Panel-P12455. aspx

> > >

> > > http://www.audiomid i.com/Synthesize r-Expander- Module-with- Patch-

> > Panel-P12454. aspx

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > thanks in advance

> > > David

>

> Considering this is a modular forum I think the MIDI to CV panel

> version would be the least popular of the 3 choices available.

> But you do have an interesting and tricky question given you want to

> eventually make a two voice.

>

> Do you already have a MIDI to CV interface? That's obviously and

> important piece of info though some people don't use a keyboard by

> choice (though by you asking this question I'm pretty sure you aren't

> one) and some rare people have a native CV keyboard already and don't

> use MIDI, but that's rare.

>

> I assume you want to play duophonically, you know, have 2 different

> keys play 2 different notes one to a SEM rather than have 2 voices in

> unison? For two voices in unison the answers is fairly simple, get

> one of each.

>

> Right now I'm not reading about Tom Oberheim having a polyphonic

> strategy for his new SEMs. Some monophonic units have a switchable

> feature that counts voices in polyphony by some means so you could

> make several mono instruments behave respond like a poly instrument

> when properly configured. But I'm not seeing that reading the specs.

> Maybe someone who has a new SEM has found it.

>

> So if I'm correct and Tom is taking things a step at a time rather

> than having a bigger plan I see the following possibilities.

>

> A) right now one could build a MAX patch or similar custom program on

> a computer to turn a polyphonic line into multiple MIDI channels in

> real time. There might be something hardware or software to do that

> but I don't know of one. One could also get an external MIDI to CV

> interface that does multiple channels. The ones that do will have a

> mode for polyphony. I actually have a seemingly very rare 1980s JL

> Cooper 8 voice MIDI to CV unit that seems to have been designed

> partly or mostly for Oberheim 8 Voice owners and I guess people with

> many monosynths. Given there are not that many I doubt many units

> were built or sold though obviously someone bought my second hand  

> unit.

>

> B) Tom Oberheim might release an update to his midi to cv that does

> some sort of skipping, if I'm assuming correctly that his doesn't now

> and there are no hardware limitations that stop him.

>

> C) Tom Oberheim or some third party releases a poly hardware

> solution. Maybe a chassis for SEMs with additional hardware? Maybe a

> 4th version with master features?

>

> nick

>

> 



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