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A 143-2 Quad ADSR - Receives Gate from system bus?

A 143-2 Quad ADSR - Receives Gate from system bus?

2009-11-12 by Phil

Hi there,

My Doepfer modular arrived today and it's great. I do have one question though.

I know the A190-1 is sending CV notes on the system bus and I had expected it to send gate too but my A 143-2 doesn't seem to be picking the Gate from the MIDI converter. Is this normal?
The only way I get the envelopes to work is to patch the Gate signal from the A190-1 to the A143-2.

I've looked in the manual to see if it's explicitly described but can not find anything, any help is appreciated.

Cheers, Phil

AW: [Doepfer_a100] A 143-2 Quad ADSR - Receives Gate from system bus?

2009-11-13 by yahoo@doepfer.de

> Hi there,
>
> My Doepfer modular arrived today and it's great. I do have one
> question though.
>
> I know the A190-1 is sending CV notes on the system bus and I had
> expected it to send gate too but my A 143-2 doesn't seem to be
> picking the Gate from the MIDI converter. Is this normal?
> The only way I get the envelopes to work is to patch the Gate
> signal from the A190-1 to the A143-2.
>
> I've looked in the manual to see if it's explicitly described but
> can not find anything, any help is appreciated.
>
> Cheers, Phil

The A-143-2 does not pick up the gate from the bus (that's why you didn't
find it in the manual).
On our A-100 DIY page you find a suggestion for subsequent bus normalling of
modules.

Best wishes
Dieter Doepfer

Re: AW: [Doepfer_a100] A 143-2 Quad ADSR - Receives Gate from system bus?

2009-11-13 by Bakis Sirros

in detail, IIRC:

the A110 and A111, receive from the bus, CV signals and the A140 ADSR receives gate signals. Dieter, correct me if i am wrong.

also the a190: sends cv and gate signals to the busboard.

but, i do not know if the new synth voice module has any normaling to the busboard.


thanks,
Bakis.



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      > Hi there,

>

> My Doepfer modular arrived today and it's great. I do have one

> question though.

>

> I know the A190-1 is sending CV notes on the system bus and I had

> expected it to send gate too but my A 143-2 doesn't seem to be

> picking the Gate from the MIDI converter. Is this normal?

> The only way I get the envelopes to work is to patch the Gate

> signal from the A190-1 to the A143-2.

>

> I've looked in the manual to see if it's explicitly described but

> can not find anything, any help is appreciated.

>

> Cheers, Phil



The A-143-2 does not pick up the gate from the bus (that's why you didn't

find it in the manual).

On our A-100 DIY page you find a suggestion for subsequent bus normalling of

modules.



Best wishes

Dieter Doepfer





    
     

    
    


 



  






      

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AW: AW: [Doepfer_a100] A 143-2 Quad ADSR - Receives Gate from system bus?

2009-11-13 by yahoo@doepfer.de

> the A110 and A111, receive from the bus, CV signals and the A140 
> ADSR receives gate signals. Dieter, correct me if i am wrong.

That's right

> also the a190: sends cv and gate signals to the busboard.

That's right too (as well as the A-190-2 if the jumpers are set in the right way)

> but, i do not know if the new synth voice module has any 
> normaling to the busboard.

Yes it can pick up CV and Gate if the jumpers are set in the right way (details in the user's manual).

 
> thanks,
> Bakis.

That's right

Re: [Doepfer_a100] A 143-2 Quad ADSR - Receives Gate from system bus?

2009-11-13 by james.husted@mac.com

I'm afraid the A-143-2 does not connect to the bus.

On Doepfer's DIY page ( http://www.doepfer.de/DIY/a100_diy.htm ) in section 4.1.4 it list the Doepfer modules that connect to the buss:

Only the modules A-110 (Standard VCO), A-111 (High end VCO), A-140 (ADSR), A-185 (Bus Access) and A-190 (Midi Interface) have access to the CV and Gate signal of the A-100 bus. A-185 and A-190 are used to "write" the bus, i.e. they output the signals to the bus. A-110, A-111 and A-140 are able to "read" the bus, i.e. they pick up the signals CV (A-110, A-111) resp. Gate (A-140) from the bus. For details please refer to the user manuals of these modules. If other modules should be able to "write" or "read" the bus the module in question has to be modified.

It shows the pinout of the bus and you can tack the gate wires to the normalizing pin on the gate in jack on the A-143-2. I don't have my rig in this room to pop it open but make sure the normalized pin is not connected to anything else before doing this. In some systems the normalized pin is also connected to the main pin as an easy way to reach it (traces came from that side of the jack sort of thing). I wish all the normalized jacks in the system had empty pads or holes next to them to make this easier - i understand all holes cost money though.
-James

On Nov 12, 2009, at 1:08 PM, Phil wrote:

> Hi there,
> 
> My Doepfer modular arrived today and it's great. I do have one question though.
> 
> I know the A190-1 is sending CV notes on the system bus and I had expected it to send gate too but my A 143-2 doesn't seem to be picking the Gate from the MIDI converter. Is this normal?
> The only way I get the envelopes to work is to patch the Gate signal from the A190-1 to the A143-2.
> 
> I've looked in the manual to see if it's explicitly described but can not find anything, any help is appreciated.
> 
> Cheers, Phil
> 
> 
> 
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> 
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> 
> 



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Re: A 143-2 Quad ADSR - Receives Gate from system bus?

2009-11-22 by Phil

Thanks for getting back on my question. I've been busy and so haven't had time to reply.

Many thanks for the help.

Cheers,

Phil

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>
> > Hi there,
> >
> > My Doepfer modular arrived today and it's great. I do have one
> > question though.
> >
> > I know the A190-1 is sending CV notes on the system bus and I had
> > expected it to send gate too but my A 143-2 doesn't seem to be
> > picking the Gate from the MIDI converter. Is this normal?
> > The only way I get the envelopes to work is to patch the Gate
> > signal from the A190-1 to the A143-2.
> >
> > I've looked in the manual to see if it's explicitly described but
> > can not find anything, any help is appreciated.
> >
> > Cheers, Phil
> 
> The A-143-2 does not pick up the gate from the bus (that's why you didn't
> find it in the manual).
> On our A-100 DIY page you find a suggestion for subsequent bus normalling of
> modules.
> 
> Best wishes
> Dieter Doepfer
>

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