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Newby Seeking Chaos

2010-06-02 by doof_per

Hi Guys,

Ive spent hours and hours and hours online checking out modular gear and (trying) to get my head around it all. For now, ive saved up enough to get an a100 Basic System2 and im hoping for the best! :)

What I wanted to know from anyone:
Im only after modular gear for the "alive" sounds ive heard from other peoples stuff (mainly Buchla TBH..love that sound!..But cant afford one..anyways thats irrelevant)

Im mainly into really distorted sounds, drum n bass, mechanical/industrial and love shaping sounds and spending hours on a sound to make it right and come "alive". 

Am I looking in the right place(Doepfer?) for my sound? Ive heard allot of the dopefer demos online and I guess the impression I get is rather really old school, simplistic and minimal/80's (Which I dont mind and love in certain instances)..But at the same time..Can I do more with it?

What would someone recommend I get as a startup, to get this sound im after..Shall I go for a "sound design/shaping"a100 system..Or for a "Basic synth system"..I have read soo many links/seen youtube vids etc etc but really I wanted to hear it from the horses mouth, so to speak before I make my order.

Does anyone have a "sound rape a100" system they can offer advice on? lol

Thanks for reading :)

RE: [Doepfer_a100] Newby Seeking Chaos

2010-06-02 by david.salter@thomsonreuters.com

You'll be surprised at how gritty the A100 can get. A lot will depend on
the modules and a basic system is a good jump off point for modular
synthesis and the modules in that system can provide a wide colour
range.

 

To be honest though if you want to take it to extremes then a couple of
modules/makes come to mind; Geiger's Weapon of Mass Destruction &
Metasonix modules to name a few.

 

Within the Doepfer range there are a couple of very nice dirty modules,
A189-1 Bit Crusher, A137-1 & A137-2 Wave Multipliers, A136 distortion
and from the filtewrs the Wasp and Xtreme are great too.

 

Personally I have a mix of makers in my system but started with an A100
Basic system, these things have a habit of growing.

 

David

 

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To: doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Doepfer_a100] Newby Seeking Chaos

 

  

Hi Guys,

Ive spent hours and hours and hours online checking out modular gear and
(trying) to get my head around it all. For now, ive saved up enough to
get an a100 Basic System2 and im hoping for the best! :)

What I wanted to know from anyone:
Im only after modular gear for the "alive" sounds ive heard from other
peoples stuff (mainly Buchla TBH..love that sound!..But cant afford
one..anyways thats irrelevant)

Im mainly into really distorted sounds, drum n bass,
mechanical/industrial and love shaping sounds and spending hours on a
sound to make it right and come "alive". 

Am I looking in the right place(Doepfer?) for my sound? Ive heard allot
of the dopefer demos online and I guess the impression I get is rather
really old school, simplistic and minimal/80's (Which I dont mind and
love in certain instances)..But at the same time..Can I do more with it?

What would someone recommend I get as a startup, to get this sound im
after..Shall I go for a "sound design/shaping"a100 system..Or for a
"Basic synth system"..I have read soo many links/seen youtube vids etc
etc but really I wanted to hear it from the horses mouth, so to speak
before I make my order.

Does anyone have a "sound rape a100" system they can offer advice on?
lol

Thanks for reading :)





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AW: [Doepfer_a100] Newby Seeking Chaos

2010-06-02 by York Luethje

Hi,

 

Do you want the sounds to originate with your modular or do you want to use
it more as a processing tool (e.g. for you drum machine)? 

 

In the latter case I suggest at least an A-119 to get sounds into the
system.

 

In addition, Doepfer and all the other manufacturers offer vast
possibilities for wrecking any sound; you really can't go wrong there. Apart
from the various filters take a look at wave shapers (A-116, A-136), wave
multipliers (A-137), the A-188 range of BBDs etc. And that's just Doepfer. 

 

If you're not quite sure how to utilise your modular, the basic system
provides a very good starting point. If you later find out that you have no
use for certain modules, you can always sell them and get stuff that suits
you more.

 

The likely reason you hear so many old school demos is that the people that
can afford a modular tend to be a bit older and grew up with prog rock or
80ies synth pop. There's no reason a modular synthesizer can't produce
contemporary sounds, especially now that more and more digital sounds
generators and processors are developed. Check out the new DSP processor
from Doepfer, but also the Tip Top Audio and Harvestman range.

 

One word of caution: People tend to go for the 'Sexy' modules, like filters
and add utility modules only as an afterthought. After messing with your
gear for a while you will probably find that you need more VCA's, envelopes,
LFO's etc. The basic system also supplies you with a decent amount of these.

 

Hope this helps,

 

York

 

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Von: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com] Im
Auftrag von doof_per
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 2. Juni 2010 03:41
An: doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com
Betreff: [Doepfer_a100] Newby Seeking Chaos

 

  

Hi Guys,

Ive spent hours and hours and hours online checking out modular gear and
(trying) to get my head around it all. For now, ive saved up enough to get
an a100 Basic System2 and im hoping for the best! :)

What I wanted to know from anyone:
Im only after modular gear for the "alive" sounds ive heard from other
peoples stuff (mainly Buchla TBH..love that sound!..But cant afford
one..anyways thats irrelevant)

Im mainly into really distorted sounds, drum n bass, mechanical/industrial
and love shaping sounds and spending hours on a sound to make it right and
come "alive". 

Am I looking in the right place(Doepfer?) for my sound? Ive heard allot of
the dopefer demos online and I guess the impression I get is rather really
old school, simplistic and minimal/80's (Which I dont mind and love in
certain instances)..But at the same time..Can I do more with it?

What would someone recommend I get as a startup, to get this sound im
after..Shall I go for a "sound design/shaping"a100 system..Or for a "Basic
synth system"..I have read soo many links/seen youtube vids etc etc but
really I wanted to hear it from the horses mouth, so to speak before I make
my order.

Does anyone have a "sound rape a100" system they can offer advice on? lol

Thanks for reading :)





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Re: AW: [Doepfer_a100] Newby Seeking Chaos

2010-06-02 by Bakis Sirros

all of this is true, but also get an A196 PLL module, for weird and harsh noises.


Bakis Sirros - Parallel Worlds / Interconnected / Memory Geist

[Doepfer_a100] group owner

www. parallel - worlds - music. com

www. myspace. com/ parallelworldsmusic

www. myspace. com/ interconnectedmusic

www. myspace. com/ memorygeist

www. DiN. org. uk

www. musicamaximamagnetica. com

www. vu-us. com

--- On Wed, 6/2/10, York Luethje <ybl@yahoo.com> wrote:
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From: York Luethje <ybl@yahoo.com>
Subject: AW: [Doepfer_a100] Newby Seeking Chaos
To: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, June 2, 2010, 11:08 AM







 



  


    
      
      
      Hi,



Do you want the sounds to originate with your modular or do you want to use

it more as a processing tool (e.g. for you drum machine)? 



In the latter case I suggest at least an A-119 to get sounds into the

system.



In addition, Doepfer and all the other manufacturers offer vast

possibilities for wrecking any sound; you really can't go wrong there. Apart

from the various filters take a look at wave shapers (A-116, A-136), wave

multipliers (A-137), the A-188 range of BBDs etc. And that's just Doepfer. 



If you're not quite sure how to utilise your modular, the basic system

provides a very good starting point. If you later find out that you have no

use for certain modules, you can always sell them and get stuff that suits

you more.



The likely reason you hear so many old school demos is that the people that

can afford a modular tend to be a bit older and grew up with prog rock or

80ies synth pop. There's no reason a modular synthesizer can't produce

contemporary sounds, especially now that more and more digital sounds

generators and processors are developed. Check out the new DSP processor

from Doepfer, but also the Tip Top Audio and Harvestman range.



One word of caution: People tend to go for the 'Sexy' modules, like filters

and add utility modules only as an afterthought. After messing with your

gear for a while you will probably find that you need more VCA's, envelopes,

LFO's etc. The basic system also supplies you with a decent amount of these.



Hope this helps,



York



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Von: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com] Im

Auftrag von doof_per

Gesendet: Mittwoch, 2. Juni 2010 03:41

An: doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com

Betreff: [Doepfer_a100] Newby Seeking Chaos



Hi Guys,



Ive spent hours and hours and hours online checking out modular gear and

(trying) to get my head around it all. For now, ive saved up enough to get

an a100 Basic System2 and im hoping for the best! :)



What I wanted to know from anyone:

Im only after modular gear for the "alive" sounds ive heard from other

peoples stuff (mainly Buchla TBH..love that sound!..But cant afford

one..anyways thats irrelevant)



Im mainly into really distorted sounds, drum n bass, mechanical/industrial

and love shaping sounds and spending hours on a sound to make it right and

come "alive". 



Am I looking in the right place(Doepfer?) for my sound? Ive heard allot of

the dopefer demos online and I guess the impression I get is rather really

old school, simplistic and minimal/80's (Which I dont mind and love in

certain instances)..But at the same time..Can I do more with it?



What would someone recommend I get as a startup, to get this sound im

after..Shall I go for a "sound design/shaping"a100 system..Or for a "Basic

synth system"..I have read soo many links/seen youtube vids etc etc but

really I wanted to hear it from the horses mouth, so to speak before I make

my order.



Does anyone have a "sound rape a100" system they can offer advice on? lol



Thanks for reading :)



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Re: [Doepfer_a100] Newby Seeking Chaos

2010-06-02 by Carci

Hi,

If you like Buchla, check the brand "Make noise", you'll probably love their QMMG / MATHS combo.
The most extreme combo I've tried so far, for both processing and raw sound generation was A136 distortion + A106 Xtreme filter + Metasonix Scrotum smasher. Sounds go from plain powerful distortion to unbearable noises and scratches and tube screaming.
The smasher is not a module but Metasonix now makes eurorack so be sure to check their stuff, (especially if you like the sound on the last NIN albums, it's full of it.)

Modules like A188 BBD and A189 Bit crusher can be nasty if you like digital noise.

You look like you already have an idea of what sound you want to produce, basic systems are great but if you wanna add more modules, you'll need more rackspace. So better have a look at which modules you think you can live without in the basic system and replace them with more specific modules. Trust me, the time you spend reading every module user manual will help you a lot when you get your hands on your system for the first time. 



--- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, Bakis Sirros <synth_freak_2000@...> wrote:
Show quoted textHide quoted text
>
> all of this is true, but also get an A196 PLL module, for weird and harsh noises.
> 
> 
> Bakis Sirros - Parallel Worlds / Interconnected / Memory Geist
> 
> [Doepfer_a100] group owner
> 
> www. parallel - worlds - music. com
> 
> www. myspace. com/ parallelworldsmusic
> 
> www. myspace. com/ interconnectedmusic
> 
> www. myspace. com/ memorygeist
> 
> www. DiN. org. uk
> 
> www. musicamaximamagnetica. com
> 
> www. vu-us. com
> 
> --- On Wed, 6/2/10, York Luethje <ybl@...> wrote:
> 
> From: York Luethje <ybl@...>
> Subject: AW: [Doepfer_a100] Newby Seeking Chaos
> To: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Wednesday, June 2, 2010, 11:08 AM
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>  
> 
> 
> 
>   
> 
> 
>     
>       
>       
>       Hi,
> 
> 
> 
> Do you want the sounds to originate with your modular or do you want to use
> 
> it more as a processing tool (e.g. for you drum machine)? 
> 
> 
> 
> In the latter case I suggest at least an A-119 to get sounds into the
> 
> system.
> 
> 
> 
> In addition, Doepfer and all the other manufacturers offer vast
> 
> possibilities for wrecking any sound; you really can't go wrong there. Apart
> 
> from the various filters take a look at wave shapers (A-116, A-136), wave
> 
> multipliers (A-137), the A-188 range of BBDs etc. And that's just Doepfer. 
> 
> 
> 
> If you're not quite sure how to utilise your modular, the basic system
> 
> provides a very good starting point. If you later find out that you have no
> 
> use for certain modules, you can always sell them and get stuff that suits
> 
> you more.
> 
> 
> 
> The likely reason you hear so many old school demos is that the people that
> 
> can afford a modular tend to be a bit older and grew up with prog rock or
> 
> 80ies synth pop. There's no reason a modular synthesizer can't produce
> 
> contemporary sounds, especially now that more and more digital sounds
> 
> generators and processors are developed. Check out the new DSP processor
> 
> from Doepfer, but also the Tip Top Audio and Harvestman range.
> 
> 
> 
> One word of caution: People tend to go for the 'Sexy' modules, like filters
> 
> and add utility modules only as an afterthought. After messing with your
> 
> gear for a while you will probably find that you need more VCA's, envelopes,
> 
> LFO's etc. The basic system also supplies you with a decent amount of these.
> 
> 
> 
> Hope this helps,
> 
> 
> 
> York
> 
> 
> 
> _____  
> 
> 
> 
> Von: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com] Im
> 
> Auftrag von doof_per
> 
> Gesendet: Mittwoch, 2. Juni 2010 03:41
> 
> An: doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com
> 
> Betreff: [Doepfer_a100] Newby Seeking Chaos
> 
> 
> 
> Hi Guys,
> 
> 
> 
> Ive spent hours and hours and hours online checking out modular gear and
> 
> (trying) to get my head around it all. For now, ive saved up enough to get
> 
> an a100 Basic System2 and im hoping for the best! :)
> 
> 
> 
> What I wanted to know from anyone:
> 
> Im only after modular gear for the "alive" sounds ive heard from other
> 
> peoples stuff (mainly Buchla TBH..love that sound!..But cant afford
> 
> one..anyways thats irrelevant)
> 
> 
> 
> Im mainly into really distorted sounds, drum n bass, mechanical/industrial
> 
> and love shaping sounds and spending hours on a sound to make it right and
> 
> come "alive". 
> 
> 
> 
> Am I looking in the right place(Doepfer?) for my sound? Ive heard allot of
> 
> the dopefer demos online and I guess the impression I get is rather really
> 
> old school, simplistic and minimal/80's (Which I dont mind and love in
> 
> certain instances)..But at the same time..Can I do more with it?
> 
> 
> 
> What would someone recommend I get as a startup, to get this sound im
> 
> after..Shall I go for a "sound design/shaping"a100 system..Or for a "Basic
> 
> synth system"..I have read soo many links/seen youtube vids etc etc but
> 
> really I wanted to hear it from the horses mouth, so to speak before I make
> 
> my order.
> 
> 
> 
> Does anyone have a "sound rape a100" system they can offer advice on? lol
> 
> 
> 
> Thanks for reading :)
> 
> 
> 
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>     
>      
> 
>     
>     
> 
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>  
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Re: Newby Seeking Chaos

2010-06-02 by doof_per

Whoa!

This is the quickest and nicest advice ive ever gotten. THANKS GUYS!

Thanks a million, everything is being noted & my head is spinning a little although light is being shed and my ideas are getting clearer!

I think for now it would be best to just get the sound sources from my DAW and use the modular as an effects/shaping/sound design tool. I would probably go for modular sound source once I get my head around which units/brand do what exaclty.

Here is my current ("interest") list (as far as I can understand from reading/hearing the details of each unit specifically on the site)

Others Brands:							
GeigerCounter(FnckYEAH!)							
B:assMaster (Euro Rack)

Doepfer:
A119input									
A100P6 (case)	
A124Wasp								
A-140 env1eope							
A-115audiodivider							
A-116waveshaper							
A-136distortion							
A-188 BBD					
A187-1									
A189-1 Bit Crusher,						
A137-1 Wave Multipliers			
A106 Xtrene Filter						
A113 Sub Harmonic Gen	

Very confused with what these are exactly/if I need them:
 * 1 x Trigger Divider A-160 ?
 * 1 x VC Waveform Processor A-116?
 * 1 x logarithmic VCA A-131?

I do actually own a TM7 Scrotum Smasher & TM1 & llooove them dearly :)

So does the above list make sense to have a working/functioning box of destruction? heehee :)

I dont mind everything being mono as I usually prefer mono anyways.

You guys rock!!





 

--- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, "Carci" <francois.maxime@...> wrote:
Show quoted textHide quoted text
>
> Hi,
> 
> If you like Buchla, check the brand "Make noise", you'll probably love their QMMG / MATHS combo.
> The most extreme combo I've tried so far, for both processing and raw sound generation was A136 distortion + A106 Xtreme filter + Metasonix Scrotum smasher. Sounds go from plain powerful distortion to unbearable noises and scratches and tube screaming.
> The smasher is not a module but Metasonix now makes eurorack so be sure to check their stuff, (especially if you like the sound on the last NIN albums, it's full of it.)
> 
> Modules like A188 BBD and A189 Bit crusher can be nasty if you like digital noise.
> 
> You look like you already have an idea of what sound you want to produce, basic systems are great but if you wanna add more modules, you'll need more rackspace. So better have a look at which modules you think you can live without in the basic system and replace them with more specific modules. Trust me, the time you spend reading every module user manual will help you a lot when you get your hands on your system for the first time. 
> 
> 
> 
> --- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, Bakis Sirros <synth_freak_2000@> wrote:
> >
> > all of this is true, but also get an A196 PLL module, for weird and harsh noises.
> > 
> > 
> > Bakis Sirros - Parallel Worlds / Interconnected / Memory Geist
> > 
> > [Doepfer_a100] group owner
> > 
> > www. parallel - worlds - music. com
> > 
> > www. myspace. com/ parallelworldsmusic
> > 
> > www. myspace. com/ interconnectedmusic
> > 
> > www. myspace. com/ memorygeist
> > 
> > www. DiN. org. uk
> > 
> > www. musicamaximamagnetica. com
> > 
> > www. vu-us. com
> > 
> > --- On Wed, 6/2/10, York Luethje <ybl@> wrote:
> > 
> > From: York Luethje <ybl@>
> > Subject: AW: [Doepfer_a100] Newby Seeking Chaos
> > To: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com
> > Date: Wednesday, June 2, 2010, 11:08 AM
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > 
> > 
> >   
> > 
> > 
> >     
> >       
> >       
> >       Hi,
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Do you want the sounds to originate with your modular or do you want to use
> > 
> > it more as a processing tool (e.g. for you drum machine)? 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > In the latter case I suggest at least an A-119 to get sounds into the
> > 
> > system.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > In addition, Doepfer and all the other manufacturers offer vast
> > 
> > possibilities for wrecking any sound; you really can't go wrong there. Apart
> > 
> > from the various filters take a look at wave shapers (A-116, A-136), wave
> > 
> > multipliers (A-137), the A-188 range of BBDs etc. And that's just Doepfer. 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > If you're not quite sure how to utilise your modular, the basic system
> > 
> > provides a very good starting point. If you later find out that you have no
> > 
> > use for certain modules, you can always sell them and get stuff that suits
> > 
> > you more.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > The likely reason you hear so many old school demos is that the people that
> > 
> > can afford a modular tend to be a bit older and grew up with prog rock or
> > 
> > 80ies synth pop. There's no reason a modular synthesizer can't produce
> > 
> > contemporary sounds, especially now that more and more digital sounds
> > 
> > generators and processors are developed. Check out the new DSP processor
> > 
> > from Doepfer, but also the Tip Top Audio and Harvestman range.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > One word of caution: People tend to go for the 'Sexy' modules, like filters
> > 
> > and add utility modules only as an afterthought. After messing with your
> > 
> > gear for a while you will probably find that you need more VCA's, envelopes,
> > 
> > LFO's etc. The basic system also supplies you with a decent amount of these.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Hope this helps,
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > York
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > _____  
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Von: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com] Im
> > 
> > Auftrag von doof_per
> > 
> > Gesendet: Mittwoch, 2. Juni 2010 03:41
> > 
> > An: doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com
> > 
> > Betreff: [Doepfer_a100] Newby Seeking Chaos
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Hi Guys,
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Ive spent hours and hours and hours online checking out modular gear and
> > 
> > (trying) to get my head around it all. For now, ive saved up enough to get
> > 
> > an a100 Basic System2 and im hoping for the best! :)
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > What I wanted to know from anyone:
> > 
> > Im only after modular gear for the "alive" sounds ive heard from other
> > 
> > peoples stuff (mainly Buchla TBH..love that sound!..But cant afford
> > 
> > one..anyways thats irrelevant)
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Im mainly into really distorted sounds, drum n bass, mechanical/industrial
> > 
> > and love shaping sounds and spending hours on a sound to make it right and
> > 
> > come "alive". 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Am I looking in the right place(Doepfer?) for my sound? Ive heard allot of
> > 
> > the dopefer demos online and I guess the impression I get is rather really
> > 
> > old school, simplistic and minimal/80's (Which I dont mind and love in
> > 
> > certain instances)..But at the same time..Can I do more with it?
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > What would someone recommend I get as a startup, to get this sound im
> > 
> > after..Shall I go for a "sound design/shaping"a100 system..Or for a "Basic
> > 
> > synth system"..I have read soo many links/seen youtube vids etc etc but
> > 
> > really I wanted to hear it from the horses mouth, so to speak before I make
> > 
> > my order.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Does anyone have a "sound rape a100" system they can offer advice on? lol
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Thanks for reading :)
> > 
> > 
> > 
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Re: [Doepfer_a100] Re: Newby Seeking Chaos

2010-06-02 by Richard Scott

hey, modular people are all nice, well, with a few exceptions.... ;)

but this is a positive and friendly spot to be sure

Richard
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On 6/2/10 12:29 PM, doof_per wrote:
>
>
>
>
> Whoa!
>
> This is the quickest and nicest advice ive ever gotten. THANKS GUYS!
>
> Thanks a million, everything is being noted & my head is spinning a
> little although light is being shed and my ideas are getting clearer!
>
> I think for now it would be best to just get the sound sources from my
> DAW and use the modular as an effects/shaping/sound design tool. I would
> probably go for modular sound source once I get my head around which
> units/brand do what exaclty.
>
> Here is my current ("interest") list (as far as I can understand from
> reading/hearing the details of each unit specifically on the site)
>
> Others Brands:
> GeigerCounter(FnckYEAH!)
> B:assMaster (Euro Rack)
>
> Doepfer:
> A119input
> A100P6 (case)
> A124Wasp
> A-140 env1eope
> A-115audiodivider
> A-116waveshaper
> A-136distortion
> A-188 BBD
> A187-1
> A189-1 Bit Crusher,
> A137-1 Wave Multipliers
> A106 Xtrene Filter
> A113 Sub Harmonic Gen
>
> Very confused with what these are exactly/if I need them:
> * 1 x Trigger Divider A-160 ?
> * 1 x VC Waveform Processor A-116?
> * 1 x logarithmic VCA A-131?
>
> I do actually own a TM7 Scrotum Smasher & TM1 & llooove them dearly :)
>
> So does the above list make sense to have a working/functioning box of
> destruction? heehee :)
>
> I dont mind everything being mono as I usually prefer mono anyways.
>
> You guys rock!!
>
> --- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com
> <mailto:Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com>, "Carci" <francois.maxime@...>
> wrote:
>  >
>  > Hi,
>  >
>  > If you like Buchla, check the brand "Make noise", you'll probably
> love their QMMG / MATHS combo.
>  > The most extreme combo I've tried so far, for both processing and raw
> sound generation was A136 distortion + A106 Xtreme filter + Metasonix
> Scrotum smasher. Sounds go from plain powerful distortion to unbearable
> noises and scratches and tube screaming.
>  > The smasher is not a module but Metasonix now makes eurorack so be
> sure to check their stuff, (especially if you like the sound on the last
> NIN albums, it's full of it.)
>  >
>  > Modules like A188 BBD and A189 Bit crusher can be nasty if you like
> digital noise.
>  >
>  > You look like you already have an idea of what sound you want to
> produce, basic systems are great but if you wanna add more modules,
> you'll need more rackspace. So better have a look at which modules you
> think you can live without in the basic system and replace them with
> more specific modules. Trust me, the time you spend reading every module
> user manual will help you a lot when you get your hands on your system
> for the first time.
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  > --- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com
> <mailto:Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com>, Bakis Sirros
> <synth_freak_2000@> wrote:
>  > >
>  > > all of this is true, but also get an A196 PLL module, for weird and
> harsh noises.
>  > >
>  > >
>  > > Bakis Sirros - Parallel Worlds / Interconnected / Memory Geist
>  > >
>  > > [Doepfer_a100] group owner
>  > >
>  > > www. parallel - worlds - music. com
>  > >
>  > > www. myspace. com/ parallelworldsmusic
>  > >
>  > > www. myspace. com/ interconnectedmusic
>  > >
>  > > www. myspace. com/ memorygeist
>  > >
>  > > www. DiN. org. uk
>  > >
>  > > www. musicamaximamagnetica. com
>  > >
>  > > www. vu-us. com
>  > >
>  > > --- On Wed, 6/2/10, York Luethje <ybl@> wrote:
>  > >
>  > > From: York Luethje <ybl@>
>  > > Subject: AW: [Doepfer_a100] Newby Seeking Chaos
>  > > To: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com
> <mailto:Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com>
>  > > Date: Wednesday, June 2, 2010, 11:08 AM
>  > >
>  > >
>  > >
>  > >
>  > >
>  > >
>  > >
>  > >
>  > >
>  > >
>  > >
>  > >
>  > >
>  > >
>  > >
>  > >
>  > >
>  > > Hi,
>  > >
>  > >
>  > >
>  > > Do you want the sounds to originate with your modular or do you
> want to use
>  > >
>  > > it more as a processing tool (e.g. for you drum machine)?
>  > >
>  > >
>  > >
>  > > In the latter case I suggest at least an A-119 to get sounds into the
>  > >
>  > > system.
>  > >
>  > >
>  > >
>  > > In addition, Doepfer and all the other manufacturers offer vast
>  > >
>  > > possibilities for wrecking any sound; you really can't go wrong
> there. Apart
>  > >
>  > > from the various filters take a look at wave shapers (A-116,
> A-136), wave
>  > >
>  > > multipliers (A-137), the A-188 range of BBDs etc. And that's just
> Doepfer.
>  > >
>  > >
>  > >
>  > > If you're not quite sure how to utilise your modular, the basic system
>  > >
>  > > provides a very good starting point. If you later find out that you
> have no
>  > >
>  > > use for certain modules, you can always sell them and get stuff
> that suits
>  > >
>  > > you more.
>  > >
>  > >
>  > >
>  > > The likely reason you hear so many old school demos is that the
> people that
>  > >
>  > > can afford a modular tend to be a bit older and grew up with prog
> rock or
>  > >
>  > > 80ies synth pop. There's no reason a modular synthesizer can't produce
>  > >
>  > > contemporary sounds, especially now that more and more digital sounds
>  > >
>  > > generators and processors are developed. Check out the new DSP
> processor
>  > >
>  > > from Doepfer, but also the Tip Top Audio and Harvestman range.
>  > >
>  > >
>  > >
>  > > One word of caution: People tend to go for the 'Sexy' modules, like
> filters
>  > >
>  > > and add utility modules only as an afterthought. After messing with
> your
>  > >
>  > > gear for a while you will probably find that you need more VCA's,
> envelopes,
>  > >
>  > > LFO's etc. The basic system also supplies you with a decent amount
> of these.
>  > >
>  > >
>  > >
>  > > Hope this helps,
>  > >
>  > >
>  > >
>  > > York
>  > >
>  > >
>  > >
>  > > _____
>  > >
>  > >
>  > >
>  > > Von: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com
> <mailto:Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com>
> [mailto:Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com
> <mailto:Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com>] Im
>  > >
>  > > Auftrag von doof_per
>  > >
>  > > Gesendet: Mittwoch, 2. Juni 2010 03:41
>  > >
>  > > An: doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com
> <mailto:doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com>
>  > >
>  > > Betreff: [Doepfer_a100] Newby Seeking Chaos
>  > >
>  > >
>  > >
>  > > Hi Guys,
>  > >
>  > >
>  > >
>  > > Ive spent hours and hours and hours online checking out modular
> gear and
>  > >
>  > > (trying) to get my head around it all. For now, ive saved up enough
> to get
>  > >
>  > > an a100 Basic System2 and im hoping for the best! :)
>  > >
>  > >
>  > >
>  > > What I wanted to know from anyone:
>  > >
>  > > Im only after modular gear for the "alive" sounds ive heard from other
>  > >
>  > > peoples stuff (mainly Buchla TBH..love that sound!..But cant afford
>  > >
>  > > one..anyways thats irrelevant)
>  > >
>  > >
>  > >
>  > > Im mainly into really distorted sounds, drum n bass,
> mechanical/industrial
>  > >
>  > > and love shaping sounds and spending hours on a sound to make it
> right and
>  > >
>  > > come "alive".
>  > >
>  > >
>  > >
>  > > Am I looking in the right place(Doepfer?) for my sound? Ive heard
> allot of
>  > >
>  > > the dopefer demos online and I guess the impression I get is rather
> really
>  > >
>  > > old school, simplistic and minimal/80's (Which I dont mind and love in
>  > >
>  > > certain instances)..But at the same time..Can I do more with it?
>  > >
>  > >
>  > >
>  > > What would someone recommend I get as a startup, to get this sound im
>  > >
>  > > after..Shall I go for a "sound design/shaping"a100 system..Or for a
> "Basic
>  > >
>  > > synth system"..I have read soo many links/seen youtube vids etc etc but
>  > >
>  > > really I wanted to hear it from the horses mouth, so to speak
> before I make
>  > >
>  > > my order.
>  > >
>  > >
>  > >
>  > > Does anyone have a "sound rape a100" system they can offer advice
> on? lol
>  > >
>  > >
>  > >
>  > > Thanks for reading :)
>  > >
>  > >
>  > >
>  > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>  > >
>  > >
>  > >
>  > >
>  > >
>  > >
>  > >
>  > >
>  > >
>  > >
>  > >
>  > >
>  > >
>  > >
>  > >
>  > >
>  > >
>  > >
>  > >
>  > >
>  > >
>  > >
>  > >
>  > >
>  > >
>  > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>  > >
>  >
>
>

RE: [Doepfer_a100] Re: Newby Seeking Chaos

2010-06-02 by david.salter@thomsonreuters.com

The list are modules for mashing sound, however you need to control as
well, even for the nastiest noise.

 

Control comes from modulation; LFO's, Envelope generators and VCA's and
I promise you can never have enough of these. Also sequencer is a cool
choice this can be done with the A160/161 and a mixer combination or one
of the many purpose built sequencers out there. These no only act as
note generators but CV generators, complex oscillators and more.

 

Add a mixer, a ring modulator and audio sources like VCO's and noise if
your not just processing external sounds.

 

As I said modular has a habit of getting dangerously consuming.

 

It is very important to set a couple of goals you want to achieve, do
some research and ask questions and build a small system (in a largish
case) to start with then expand as you develop.

 

David

 

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From: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf Of doof_per
Sent: 02 June 2010 12:29
To: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Doepfer_a100] Re: Newby Seeking Chaos

 

  



Whoa!

This is the quickest and nicest advice ive ever gotten. THANKS GUYS!

Thanks a million, everything is being noted & my head is spinning a
little although light is being shed and my ideas are getting clearer!

I think for now it would be best to just get the sound sources from my
DAW and use the modular as an effects/shaping/sound design tool. I would
probably go for modular sound source once I get my head around which
units/brand do what exaclty.

Here is my current ("interest") list (as far as I can understand from
reading/hearing the details of each unit specifically on the site)

Others Brands: 
GeigerCounter(FnckYEAH!) 
B:assMaster (Euro Rack)

Doepfer:
A119input 
A100P6 (case) 
A124Wasp 
A-140 env1eope 
A-115audiodivider 
A-116waveshaper 
A-136distortion 
A-188 BBD 
A187-1 
A189-1 Bit Crusher, 
A137-1 Wave Multipliers 
A106 Xtrene Filter 
A113 Sub Harmonic Gen 

Very confused with what these are exactly/if I need them:
* 1 x Trigger Divider A-160 ?
* 1 x VC Waveform Processor A-116?
* 1 x logarithmic VCA A-131?

I do actually own a TM7 Scrotum Smasher & TM1 & llooove them dearly :)

So does the above list make sense to have a working/functioning box of
destruction? heehee :)

I dont mind everything being mono as I usually prefer mono anyways.

You guys rock!!

--- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com
<mailto:Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com> , "Carci" <francois.maxime@...>
wrote:
>
> Hi,
> 
> If you like Buchla, check the brand "Make noise", you'll probably love
their QMMG / MATHS combo.
> The most extreme combo I've tried so far, for both processing and raw
sound generation was A136 distortion + A106 Xtreme filter + Metasonix
Scrotum smasher. Sounds go from plain powerful distortion to unbearable
noises and scratches and tube screaming.
> The smasher is not a module but Metasonix now makes eurorack so be
sure to check their stuff, (especially if you like the sound on the last
NIN albums, it's full of it.)
> 
> Modules like A188 BBD and A189 Bit crusher can be nasty if you like
digital noise.
> 
> You look like you already have an idea of what sound you want to
produce, basic systems are great but if you wanna add more modules,
you'll need more rackspace. So better have a look at which modules you
think you can live without in the basic system and replace them with
more specific modules. Trust me, the time you spend reading every module
user manual will help you a lot when you get your hands on your system
for the first time. 
> 
> 
> 
> --- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com
<mailto:Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com> , Bakis Sirros
<synth_freak_2000@> wrote:
> >
> > all of this is true, but also get an A196 PLL module, for weird and
harsh noises.
> > 
> > 
> > Bakis Sirros - Parallel Worlds / Interconnected / Memory Geist
> > 
> > [Doepfer_a100] group owner
> > 
> > www. parallel - worlds - music. com
> > 
> > www. myspace. com/ parallelworldsmusic
> > 
> > www. myspace. com/ interconnectedmusic
> > 
> > www. myspace. com/ memorygeist
> > 
> > www. DiN. org. uk
> > 
> > www. musicamaximamagnetica. com
> > 
> > www. vu-us. com
> > 
> > --- On Wed, 6/2/10, York Luethje <ybl@> wrote:
> > 
> > From: York Luethje <ybl@>
> > Subject: AW: [Doepfer_a100] Newby Seeking Chaos
> > To: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com
<mailto:Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com> 
> > Date: Wednesday, June 2, 2010, 11:08 AM
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Hi,
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Do you want the sounds to originate with your modular or do you want
to use
> > 
> > it more as a processing tool (e.g. for you drum machine)? 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > In the latter case I suggest at least an A-119 to get sounds into
the
> > 
> > system.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > In addition, Doepfer and all the other manufacturers offer vast
> > 
> > possibilities for wrecking any sound; you really can't go wrong
there. Apart
> > 
> > from the various filters take a look at wave shapers (A-116, A-136),
wave
> > 
> > multipliers (A-137), the A-188 range of BBDs etc. And that's just
Doepfer. 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > If you're not quite sure how to utilise your modular, the basic
system
> > 
> > provides a very good starting point. If you later find out that you
have no
> > 
> > use for certain modules, you can always sell them and get stuff that
suits
> > 
> > you more.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > The likely reason you hear so many old school demos is that the
people that
> > 
> > can afford a modular tend to be a bit older and grew up with prog
rock or
> > 
> > 80ies synth pop. There's no reason a modular synthesizer can't
produce
> > 
> > contemporary sounds, especially now that more and more digital
sounds
> > 
> > generators and processors are developed. Check out the new DSP
processor
> > 
> > from Doepfer, but also the Tip Top Audio and Harvestman range.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > One word of caution: People tend to go for the 'Sexy' modules, like
filters
> > 
> > and add utility modules only as an afterthought. After messing with
your
> > 
> > gear for a while you will probably find that you need more VCA's,
envelopes,
> > 
> > LFO's etc. The basic system also supplies you with a decent amount
of these.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Hope this helps,
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > York
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > _____ 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Von: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com
<mailto:Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com>
[mailto:Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com
<mailto:Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com> ] Im
> > 
> > Auftrag von doof_per
> > 
> > Gesendet: Mittwoch, 2. Juni 2010 03:41
> > 
> > An: doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com
<mailto:doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com> 
> > 
> > Betreff: [Doepfer_a100] Newby Seeking Chaos
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Hi Guys,
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Ive spent hours and hours and hours online checking out modular gear
and
> > 
> > (trying) to get my head around it all. For now, ive saved up enough
to get
> > 
> > an a100 Basic System2 and im hoping for the best! :)
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > What I wanted to know from anyone:
> > 
> > Im only after modular gear for the "alive" sounds ive heard from
other
> > 
> > peoples stuff (mainly Buchla TBH..love that sound!..But cant afford
> > 
> > one..anyways thats irrelevant)
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Im mainly into really distorted sounds, drum n bass,
mechanical/industrial
> > 
> > and love shaping sounds and spending hours on a sound to make it
right and
> > 
> > come "alive". 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Am I looking in the right place(Doepfer?) for my sound? Ive heard
allot of
> > 
> > the dopefer demos online and I guess the impression I get is rather
really
> > 
> > old school, simplistic and minimal/80's (Which I dont mind and love
in
> > 
> > certain instances)..But at the same time..Can I do more with it?
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > What would someone recommend I get as a startup, to get this sound
im
> > 
> > after..Shall I go for a "sound design/shaping"a100 system..Or for a
"Basic
> > 
> > synth system"..I have read soo many links/seen youtube vids etc etc
but
> > 
> > really I wanted to hear it from the horses mouth, so to speak before
I make
> > 
> > my order.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Does anyone have a "sound rape a100" system they can offer advice
on? lol
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Thanks for reading :)
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
>





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Re: [Doepfer_a100] Re: Newby Seeking Chaos

2010-06-02 by Robbert Jan Rink

And do check if you can afford the P9 case. It is only a small extra amount
while it offers more flexibility in the future!

Robbert

On Wed, Jun 2, 2010 at 1:51 PM, <david.salter@thomsonreuters.com> wrote:

>
>
> The list are modules for mashing sound, however you need to control as
> well, even for the nastiest noise.
>
> Control comes from modulation; LFO's, Envelope generators and VCA's and
> I promise you can never have enough of these. Also sequencer is a cool
> choice this can be done with the A160/161 and a mixer combination or one
> of the many purpose built sequencers out there. These no only act as
> note generators but CV generators, complex oscillators and more.
>
> Add a mixer, a ring modulator and audio sources like VCO's and noise if
> your not just processing external sounds.
>
> As I said modular has a habit of getting dangerously consuming.
>
> It is very important to set a couple of goals you want to achieve, do
> some research and ask questions and build a small system (in a largish
> case) to start with then expand as you develop.
>
>
> David
>
> * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
> * * *
> David Salter
> Senior Consultant
>
> SSG UKI
>
> Thomson Reuters
>
> O +44 (0)20 7542 2402X 52402
> M 07990562402
>
> david.salter@thomsonreuters.com <david.salter%40thomsonreuters.com>
> thomsonreuters.com <http://thomsonreuters.com/>
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> From: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com <Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com>[mailto:
> Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com <Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com>]
> On Behalf Of doof_per
> Sent: 02 June 2010 12:29
>
> To: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com <Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com>
> Subject: [Doepfer_a100] Re: Newby Seeking Chaos
>
>
> Whoa!
>
> This is the quickest and nicest advice ive ever gotten. THANKS GUYS!
>
> Thanks a million, everything is being noted & my head is spinning a
> little although light is being shed and my ideas are getting clearer!
>
> I think for now it would be best to just get the sound sources from my
> DAW and use the modular as an effects/shaping/sound design tool. I would
> probably go for modular sound source once I get my head around which
> units/brand do what exaclty.
>
> Here is my current ("interest") list (as far as I can understand from
> reading/hearing the details of each unit specifically on the site)
>
> Others Brands:
> GeigerCounter(FnckYEAH!)
> B:assMaster (Euro Rack)
>
> Doepfer:
> A119input
> A100P6 (case)
> A124Wasp
> A-140 env1eope
> A-115audiodivider
> A-116waveshaper
> A-136distortion
> A-188 BBD
> A187-1
> A189-1 Bit Crusher,
> A137-1 Wave Multipliers
> A106 Xtrene Filter
> A113 Sub Harmonic Gen
>
> Very confused with what these are exactly/if I need them:
> * 1 x Trigger Divider A-160 ?
> * 1 x VC Waveform Processor A-116?
> * 1 x logarithmic VCA A-131?
>
> I do actually own a TM7 Scrotum Smasher & TM1 & llooove them dearly :)
>
> So does the above list make sense to have a working/functioning box of
> destruction? heehee :)
>
> I dont mind everything being mono as I usually prefer mono anyways.
>
> You guys rock!!
>
> --- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com <Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com>
> <mailto:Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com <Doepfer_a100%2540yahoogroups.com>>
> , "Carci" <francois.maxime@...>
>
> wrote:
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > If you like Buchla, check the brand "Make noise", you'll probably love
> their QMMG / MATHS combo.
> > The most extreme combo I've tried so far, for both processing and raw
> sound generation was A136 distortion + A106 Xtreme filter + Metasonix
> Scrotum smasher. Sounds go from plain powerful distortion to unbearable
> noises and scratches and tube screaming.
> > The smasher is not a module but Metasonix now makes eurorack so be
> sure to check their stuff, (especially if you like the sound on the last
> NIN albums, it's full of it.)
> >
> > Modules like A188 BBD and A189 Bit crusher can be nasty if you like
> digital noise.
> >
> > You look like you already have an idea of what sound you want to
> produce, basic systems are great but if you wanna add more modules,
> you'll need more rackspace. So better have a look at which modules you
> think you can live without in the basic system and replace them with
> more specific modules. Trust me, the time you spend reading every module
> user manual will help you a lot when you get your hands on your system
> for the first time.
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com <Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com>
> <mailto:Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com <Doepfer_a100%2540yahoogroups.com>>
> , Bakis Sirros
>
> <synth_freak_2000@> wrote:
> > >
> > > all of this is true, but also get an A196 PLL module, for weird and
> harsh noises.
> > >
> > >
> > > Bakis Sirros - Parallel Worlds / Interconnected / Memory Geist
> > >
> > > [Doepfer_a100] group owner
> > >
> > > www. parallel - worlds - music. com
> > >
> > > www. myspace. com/ parallelworldsmusic
> > >
> > > www. myspace. com/ interconnectedmusic
> > >
> > > www. myspace. com/ memorygeist
> > >
> > > www. DiN. org. uk
> > >
> > > www. musicamaximamagnetica. com
> > >
> > > www. vu-us. com
> > >
> > > --- On Wed, 6/2/10, York Luethje <ybl@> wrote:
> > >
> > > From: York Luethje <ybl@>
> > > Subject: AW: [Doepfer_a100] Newby Seeking Chaos
> > > To: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com <Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com>
> <mailto:Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com <Doepfer_a100%2540yahoogroups.com>>
>
>  > > Date: Wednesday, June 2, 2010, 11:08 AM
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Do you want the sounds to originate with your modular or do you want
> to use
> > >
> > > it more as a processing tool (e.g. for you drum machine)?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > In the latter case I suggest at least an A-119 to get sounds into
> the
> > >
> > > system.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > In addition, Doepfer and all the other manufacturers offer vast
> > >
> > > possibilities for wrecking any sound; you really can't go wrong
> there. Apart
> > >
> > > from the various filters take a look at wave shapers (A-116, A-136),
> wave
> > >
> > > multipliers (A-137), the A-188 range of BBDs etc. And that's just
> Doepfer.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > If you're not quite sure how to utilise your modular, the basic
> system
> > >
> > > provides a very good starting point. If you later find out that you
> have no
> > >
> > > use for certain modules, you can always sell them and get stuff that
> suits
> > >
> > > you more.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > The likely reason you hear so many old school demos is that the
> people that
> > >
> > > can afford a modular tend to be a bit older and grew up with prog
> rock or
> > >
> > > 80ies synth pop. There's no reason a modular synthesizer can't
> produce
> > >
> > > contemporary sounds, especially now that more and more digital
> sounds
> > >
> > > generators and processors are developed. Check out the new DSP
> processor
> > >
> > > from Doepfer, but also the Tip Top Audio and Harvestman range.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > One word of caution: People tend to go for the 'Sexy' modules, like
> filters
> > >
> > > and add utility modules only as an afterthought. After messing with
> your
> > >
> > > gear for a while you will probably find that you need more VCA's,
> envelopes,
> > >
> > > LFO's etc. The basic system also supplies you with a decent amount
> of these.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Hope this helps,
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > York
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > _____
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Von: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com <Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com>
> <mailto:Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com <Doepfer_a100%2540yahoogroups.com>>
>
>
> [mailto:Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com <Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com>
> <mailto:Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com <Doepfer_a100%2540yahoogroups.com>>
> ] Im
>
> > >
> > > Auftrag von doof_per
> > >
> > > Gesendet: Mittwoch, 2. Juni 2010 03:41
> > >
> > > An: doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com <doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com>
> <mailto:doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com <doepfer_a100%2540yahoogroups.com>>
>
>  > >
> > > Betreff: [Doepfer_a100] Newby Seeking Chaos
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Hi Guys,
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Ive spent hours and hours and hours online checking out modular gear
> and
> > >
> > > (trying) to get my head around it all. For now, ive saved up enough
> to get
> > >
> > > an a100 Basic System2 and im hoping for the best! :)
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > What I wanted to know from anyone:
> > >
> > > Im only after modular gear for the "alive" sounds ive heard from
> other
> > >
> > > peoples stuff (mainly Buchla TBH..love that sound!..But cant afford
> > >
> > > one..anyways thats irrelevant)
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Im mainly into really distorted sounds, drum n bass,
> mechanical/industrial
> > >
> > > and love shaping sounds and spending hours on a sound to make it
> right and
> > >
> > > come "alive".
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Am I looking in the right place(Doepfer?) for my sound? Ive heard
> allot of
> > >
> > > the dopefer demos online and I guess the impression I get is rather
> really
> > >
> > > old school, simplistic and minimal/80's (Which I dont mind and love
> in
> > >
> > > certain instances)..But at the same time..Can I do more with it?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > What would someone recommend I get as a startup, to get this sound
> im
> > >
> > > after..Shall I go for a "sound design/shaping"a100 system..Or for a
> "Basic
> > >
> > > synth system"..I have read soo many links/seen youtube vids etc etc
> but
> > >
> > > really I wanted to hear it from the horses mouth, so to speak before
> I make
> > >
> > > my order.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Does anyone have a "sound rape a100" system they can offer advice
> on? lol
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Thanks for reading :)
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > >
> >
>
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Re: Newby Seeking Chaos

2010-06-02 by doof_per

Bakkis & Robert:
Point noted and taken :)

Thanks guys, I will do just that :)



David:

"Add a mixer, a ring modulator and audio sources like VCO's and noise if your not just processing external sounds."

- For now, I think i will be just doing external sound.

"Control comes from modulation; LFO's, Envelope generators and VCA's and I promise you can never have enough of these."

- Would you not say that my list has that? Could you recommend any essential units? Im already on 2100Euros on my current list :/ Maybe I should rid of the bitcrusher and some "irrelevant" units (for now)

"It is very important to set a couple of goals you want to achieve,"

- I think my goal for my 1st startup kit, would be to be able to shape & distort bass/synth lead sounds mainly.


--- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, Robbert Jan Rink <robbertrink@...> wrote:
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>
> And do check if you can afford the P9 case. It is only a small extra amount
> while it offers more flexibility in the future!
> 
> Robbert
> 
> On Wed, Jun 2, 2010 at 1:51 PM, <david.salter@...> wrote:
> 
> >
> >
> > The list are modules for mashing sound, however you need to control as
> > well, even for the nastiest noise.
> >
> > Control comes from modulation; LFO's, Envelope generators and VCA's and
> > I promise you can never have enough of these. Also sequencer is a cool
> > choice this can be done with the A160/161 and a mixer combination or one
> > of the many purpose built sequencers out there. These no only act as
> > note generators but CV generators, complex oscillators and more.
> >
> > Add a mixer, a ring modulator and audio sources like VCO's and noise if
> > your not just processing external sounds.
> >
> > As I said modular has a habit of getting dangerously consuming.
> >
> > It is very important to set a couple of goals you want to achieve, do
> > some research and ask questions and build a small system (in a largish
> > case) to start with then expand as you develop.
> >
> >
> > David
> >
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> > On Behalf Of doof_per
> > Sent: 02 June 2010 12:29
> >
> > To: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com <Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com>
> > Subject: [Doepfer_a100] Re: Newby Seeking Chaos
> >
> >
> > Whoa!
> >
> > This is the quickest and nicest advice ive ever gotten. THANKS GUYS!
> >
> > Thanks a million, everything is being noted & my head is spinning a
> > little although light is being shed and my ideas are getting clearer!
> >
> > I think for now it would be best to just get the sound sources from my
> > DAW and use the modular as an effects/shaping/sound design tool. I would
> > probably go for modular sound source once I get my head around which
> > units/brand do what exaclty.
> >
> > Here is my current ("interest") list (as far as I can understand from
> > reading/hearing the details of each unit specifically on the site)
> >
> > Others Brands:
> > GeigerCounter(FnckYEAH!)
> > B:assMaster (Euro Rack)
> >
> > Doepfer:
> > A119input
> > A100P6 (case)
> > A124Wasp
> > A-140 env1eope
> > A-115audiodivider
> > A-116waveshaper
> > A-136distortion
> > A-188 BBD
> > A187-1
> > A189-1 Bit Crusher,
> > A137-1 Wave Multipliers
> > A106 Xtrene Filter
> > A113 Sub Harmonic Gen
> >
> > Very confused with what these are exactly/if I need them:
> > * 1 x Trigger Divider A-160 ?
> > * 1 x VC Waveform Processor A-116?
> > * 1 x logarithmic VCA A-131?
> >
> > I do actually own a TM7 Scrotum Smasher & TM1 & llooove them dearly :)
> >
> > So does the above list make sense to have a working/functioning box of
> > destruction? heehee :)
> >
> > I dont mind everything being mono as I usually prefer mono anyways.
> >
> > You guys rock!!
> >
> > --- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com <Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com>
> > <mailto:Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com <Doepfer_a100%2540yahoogroups.com>>
> > , "Carci" <francois.maxime@>
> >
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > If you like Buchla, check the brand "Make noise", you'll probably love
> > their QMMG / MATHS combo.
> > > The most extreme combo I've tried so far, for both processing and raw
> > sound generation was A136 distortion + A106 Xtreme filter + Metasonix
> > Scrotum smasher. Sounds go from plain powerful distortion to unbearable
> > noises and scratches and tube screaming.
> > > The smasher is not a module but Metasonix now makes eurorack so be
> > sure to check their stuff, (especially if you like the sound on the last
> > NIN albums, it's full of it.)
> > >
> > > Modules like A188 BBD and A189 Bit crusher can be nasty if you like
> > digital noise.
> > >
> > > You look like you already have an idea of what sound you want to
> > produce, basic systems are great but if you wanna add more modules,
> > you'll need more rackspace. So better have a look at which modules you
> > think you can live without in the basic system and replace them with
> > more specific modules. Trust me, the time you spend reading every module
> > user manual will help you a lot when you get your hands on your system
> > for the first time.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com <Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com>
> > <mailto:Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com <Doepfer_a100%2540yahoogroups.com>>
> > , Bakis Sirros
> >
> > <synth_freak_2000@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > all of this is true, but also get an A196 PLL module, for weird and
> > harsh noises.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Bakis Sirros - Parallel Worlds / Interconnected / Memory Geist
> > > >
> > > > [Doepfer_a100] group owner
> > > >
> > > > www. parallel - worlds - music. com
> > > >
> > > > www. myspace. com/ parallelworldsmusic
> > > >
> > > > www. myspace. com/ interconnectedmusic
> > > >
> > > > www. myspace. com/ memorygeist
> > > >
> > > > www. DiN. org. uk
> > > >
> > > > www. musicamaximamagnetica. com
> > > >
> > > > www. vu-us. com
> > > >
> > > > --- On Wed, 6/2/10, York Luethje <ybl@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > From: York Luethje <ybl@>
> > > > Subject: AW: [Doepfer_a100] Newby Seeking Chaos
> > > > To: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com <Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com>
> > <mailto:Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com <Doepfer_a100%2540yahoogroups.com>>
> >
> >  > > Date: Wednesday, June 2, 2010, 11:08 AM
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Hi,
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Do you want the sounds to originate with your modular or do you want
> > to use
> > > >
> > > > it more as a processing tool (e.g. for you drum machine)?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > In the latter case I suggest at least an A-119 to get sounds into
> > the
> > > >
> > > > system.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > In addition, Doepfer and all the other manufacturers offer vast
> > > >
> > > > possibilities for wrecking any sound; you really can't go wrong
> > there. Apart
> > > >
> > > > from the various filters take a look at wave shapers (A-116, A-136),
> > wave
> > > >
> > > > multipliers (A-137), the A-188 range of BBDs etc. And that's just
> > Doepfer.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > If you're not quite sure how to utilise your modular, the basic
> > system
> > > >
> > > > provides a very good starting point. If you later find out that you
> > have no
> > > >
> > > > use for certain modules, you can always sell them and get stuff that
> > suits
> > > >
> > > > you more.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > The likely reason you hear so many old school demos is that the
> > people that
> > > >
> > > > can afford a modular tend to be a bit older and grew up with prog
> > rock or
> > > >
> > > > 80ies synth pop. There's no reason a modular synthesizer can't
> > produce
> > > >
> > > > contemporary sounds, especially now that more and more digital
> > sounds
> > > >
> > > > generators and processors are developed. Check out the new DSP
> > processor
> > > >
> > > > from Doepfer, but also the Tip Top Audio and Harvestman range.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > One word of caution: People tend to go for the 'Sexy' modules, like
> > filters
> > > >
> > > > and add utility modules only as an afterthought. After messing with
> > your
> > > >
> > > > gear for a while you will probably find that you need more VCA's,
> > envelopes,
> > > >
> > > > LFO's etc. The basic system also supplies you with a decent amount
> > of these.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Hope this helps,
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > York
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > _____
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Von: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com <Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com>
> > <mailto:Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com <Doepfer_a100%2540yahoogroups.com>>
> >
> >
> > [mailto:Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com <Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com>
> > <mailto:Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com <Doepfer_a100%2540yahoogroups.com>>
> > ] Im
> >
> > > >
> > > > Auftrag von doof_per
> > > >
> > > > Gesendet: Mittwoch, 2. Juni 2010 03:41
> > > >
> > > > An: doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com <doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com>
> > <mailto:doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com <doepfer_a100%2540yahoogroups.com>>
> >
> >  > >
> > > > Betreff: [Doepfer_a100] Newby Seeking Chaos
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Hi Guys,
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Ive spent hours and hours and hours online checking out modular gear
> > and
> > > >
> > > > (trying) to get my head around it all. For now, ive saved up enough
> > to get
> > > >
> > > > an a100 Basic System2 and im hoping for the best! :)
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > What I wanted to know from anyone:
> > > >
> > > > Im only after modular gear for the "alive" sounds ive heard from
> > other
> > > >
> > > > peoples stuff (mainly Buchla TBH..love that sound!..But cant afford
> > > >
> > > > one..anyways thats irrelevant)
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Im mainly into really distorted sounds, drum n bass,
> > mechanical/industrial
> > > >
> > > > and love shaping sounds and spending hours on a sound to make it
> > right and
> > > >
> > > > come "alive".
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Am I looking in the right place(Doepfer?) for my sound? Ive heard
> > allot of
> > > >
> > > > the dopefer demos online and I guess the impression I get is rather
> > really
> > > >
> > > > old school, simplistic and minimal/80's (Which I dont mind and love
> > in
> > > >
> > > > certain instances)..But at the same time..Can I do more with it?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > What would someone recommend I get as a startup, to get this sound
> > im
> > > >
> > > > after..Shall I go for a "sound design/shaping"a100 system..Or for a
> > "Basic
> > > >
> > > > synth system"..I have read soo many links/seen youtube vids etc etc
> > but
> > > >
> > > > really I wanted to hear it from the horses mouth, so to speak before
> > I make
> > > >
> > > > my order.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Does anyone have a "sound rape a100" system they can offer advice
> > on? lol
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Thanks for reading :)
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > > >
> > >
> >
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> >
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> >
> >  
> >
> 
> 
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

Re: [Doepfer_a100] Re: Newby Seeking Chaos

2010-06-02 by Bakis Sirros

i second that.

Bakis Sirros - Parallel Worlds / Interconnected / Memory Geist
[Doepfer_a100] group owner
www. parallel - worlds - music. com
www. myspace. com/ parallelworldsmusic
www. myspace. com/ interconnectedmusic
www. myspace. com/ memorygeist
www. DiN. org. uk
www. musicamaximamagnetica. com
www. vu-us. com


--- On Wed, 6/2/10, Robbert Jan Rink <robbertrink@gmail.com> wrote:
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> From: Robbert Jan Rink <robbertrink@gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Doepfer_a100] Re: Newby Seeking Chaos
> To: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Wednesday, June 2, 2010, 3:11 PM
> And do check if you can afford the P9
> case. It is only a small extra amount
> while it offers more flexibility in the future!
> 
> Robbert
> 
> On Wed, Jun 2, 2010 at 1:51 PM, <david.salter@thomsonreuters.com>
> wrote:
> 
> >
> >
> > The list are modules for mashing sound, however you
> need to control as
> > well, even for the nastiest noise.
> >
> > Control comes from modulation; LFO's, Envelope
> generators and VCA's and
> > I promise you can never have enough of these. Also
> sequencer is a cool
> > choice this can be done with the A160/161 and a mixer
> combination or one
> > of the many purpose built sequencers out there. These
> no only act as
> > note generators but CV generators, complex oscillators
> and more.
> >
> > Add a mixer, a ring modulator and audio sources like
> VCO's and noise if
> > your not just processing external sounds.
> >
> > As I said modular has a habit of getting dangerously
> consuming.
> >
> > It is very important to set a couple of goals you want
> to achieve, do
> > some research and ask questions and build a small
> system (in a largish
> > case) to start with then expand as you develop.
> >
> >
> > David
> >
> > * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
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> > On Behalf Of doof_per
> > Sent: 02 June 2010 12:29
> >
> > To: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com
> <Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com>
> > Subject: [Doepfer_a100] Re: Newby Seeking Chaos
> >
> >
> > Whoa!
> >
> > This is the quickest and nicest advice ive ever
> gotten. THANKS GUYS!
> >
> > Thanks a million, everything is being noted & my
> head is spinning a
> > little although light is being shed and my ideas are
> getting clearer!
> >
> > I think for now it would be best to just get the sound
> sources from my
> > DAW and use the modular as an effects/shaping/sound
> design tool. I would
> > probably go for modular sound source once I get my
> head around which
> > units/brand do what exaclty.
> >
> > Here is my current ("interest") list (as far as I can
> understand from
> > reading/hearing the details of each unit specifically
> on the site)
> >
> > Others Brands:
> > GeigerCounter(FnckYEAH!)
> > B:assMaster (Euro Rack)
> >
> > Doepfer:
> > A119input
> > A100P6 (case)
> > A124Wasp
> > A-140 env1eope
> > A-115audiodivider
> > A-116waveshaper
> > A-136distortion
> > A-188 BBD
> > A187-1
> > A189-1 Bit Crusher,
> > A137-1 Wave Multipliers
> > A106 Xtrene Filter
> > A113 Sub Harmonic Gen
> >
> > Very confused with what these are exactly/if I need
> them:
> > * 1 x Trigger Divider A-160 ?
> > * 1 x VC Waveform Processor A-116?
> > * 1 x logarithmic VCA A-131?
> >
> > I do actually own a TM7 Scrotum Smasher & TM1
> & llooove them dearly :)
> >
> > So does the above list make sense to have a
> working/functioning box of
> > destruction? heehee :)
> >
> > I dont mind everything being mono as I usually prefer
> mono anyways.
> >
> > You guys rock!!
> >
> > --- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com
> <Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com>
> > <mailto:Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com
> <Doepfer_a100%2540yahoogroups.com>>
> > , "Carci" <francois.maxime@...>
> >
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > If you like Buchla, check the brand "Make noise",
> you'll probably love
> > their QMMG / MATHS combo.
> > > The most extreme combo I've tried so far, for
> both processing and raw
> > sound generation was A136 distortion + A106 Xtreme
> filter + Metasonix
> > Scrotum smasher. Sounds go from plain powerful
> distortion to unbearable
> > noises and scratches and tube screaming.
> > > The smasher is not a module but Metasonix now
> makes eurorack so be
> > sure to check their stuff, (especially if you like the
> sound on the last
> > NIN albums, it's full of it.)
> > >
> > > Modules like A188 BBD and A189 Bit crusher can be
> nasty if you like
> > digital noise.
> > >
> > > You look like you already have an idea of what
> sound you want to
> > produce, basic systems are great but if you wanna add
> more modules,
> > you'll need more rackspace. So better have a look at
> which modules you
> > think you can live without in the basic system and
> replace them with
> > more specific modules. Trust me, the time you spend
> reading every module
> > user manual will help you a lot when you get your
> hands on your system
> > for the first time.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com
> <Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com>
> > <mailto:Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com
> <Doepfer_a100%2540yahoogroups.com>>
> > , Bakis Sirros
> >
> > <synth_freak_2000@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > all of this is true, but also get an A196
> PLL module, for weird and
> > harsh noises.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Bakis Sirros - Parallel Worlds /
> Interconnected / Memory Geist
> > > >
> > > > [Doepfer_a100] group owner
> > > >
> > > > www. parallel - worlds - music. com
> > > >
> > > > www. myspace. com/ parallelworldsmusic
> > > >
> > > > www. myspace. com/ interconnectedmusic
> > > >
> > > > www. myspace. com/ memorygeist
> > > >
> > > > www. DiN. org. uk
> > > >
> > > > www. musicamaximamagnetica. com
> > > >
> > > > www. vu-us. com
> > > >
> > > > --- On Wed, 6/2/10, York Luethje
> <ybl@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > From: York Luethje <ybl@>
> > > > Subject: AW: [Doepfer_a100] Newby Seeking
> Chaos
> > > > To: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com
> <Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com>
> > <mailto:Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com
> <Doepfer_a100%2540yahoogroups.com>>
> >
> >  > > Date: Wednesday, June 2, 2010, 11:08
> AM
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Hi,
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Do you want the sounds to originate with
> your modular or do you want
> > to use
> > > >
> > > > it more as a processing tool (e.g. for you
> drum machine)?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > In the latter case I suggest at least an
> A-119 to get sounds into
> > the
> > > >
> > > > system.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > In addition, Doepfer and all the other
> manufacturers offer vast
> > > >
> > > > possibilities for wrecking any sound; you
> really can't go wrong
> > there. Apart
> > > >
> > > > from the various filters take a look at wave
> shapers (A-116, A-136),
> > wave
> > > >
> > > > multipliers (A-137), the A-188 range of BBDs
> etc. And that's just
> > Doepfer.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > If you're not quite sure how to utilise your
> modular, the basic
> > system
> > > >
> > > > provides a very good starting point. If you
> later find out that you
> > have no
> > > >
> > > > use for certain modules, you can always sell
> them and get stuff that
> > suits
> > > >
> > > > you more.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > The likely reason you hear so many old
> school demos is that the
> > people that
> > > >
> > > > can afford a modular tend to be a bit older
> and grew up with prog
> > rock or
> > > >
> > > > 80ies synth pop. There's no reason a modular
> synthesizer can't
> > produce
> > > >
> > > > contemporary sounds, especially now that
> more and more digital
> > sounds
> > > >
> > > > generators and processors are developed.
> Check out the new DSP
> > processor
> > > >
> > > > from Doepfer, but also the Tip Top Audio and
> Harvestman range.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > One word of caution: People tend to go for
> the 'Sexy' modules, like
> > filters
> > > >
> > > > and add utility modules only as an
> afterthought. After messing with
> > your
> > > >
> > > > gear for a while you will probably find that
> you need more VCA's,
> > envelopes,
> > > >
> > > > LFO's etc. The basic system also supplies
> you with a decent amount
> > of these.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Hope this helps,
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > York
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > _____
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Von: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com
> <Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com>
> > <mailto:Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com
> <Doepfer_a100%2540yahoogroups.com>>
> >
> >
> > [mailto:Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com
> <Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com>
> > <mailto:Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com
> <Doepfer_a100%2540yahoogroups.com>>
> > ] Im
> >
> > > >
> > > > Auftrag von doof_per
> > > >
> > > > Gesendet: Mittwoch, 2. Juni 2010 03:41
> > > >
> > > > An: doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com
> <doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com>
> > <mailto:doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com
> <doepfer_a100%2540yahoogroups.com>>
> >
> >  > >
> > > > Betreff: [Doepfer_a100] Newby Seeking Chaos
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Hi Guys,
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Ive spent hours and hours and hours online
> checking out modular gear
> > and
> > > >
> > > > (trying) to get my head around it all. For
> now, ive saved up enough
> > to get
> > > >
> > > > an a100 Basic System2 and im hoping for the
> best! :)
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > What I wanted to know from anyone:
> > > >
> > > > Im only after modular gear for the "alive"
> sounds ive heard from
> > other
> > > >
> > > > peoples stuff (mainly Buchla TBH..love that
> sound!..But cant afford
> > > >
> > > > one..anyways thats irrelevant)
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Im mainly into really distorted sounds, drum
> n bass,
> > mechanical/industrial
> > > >
> > > > and love shaping sounds and spending hours
> on a sound to make it
> > right and
> > > >
> > > > come "alive".
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Am I looking in the right place(Doepfer?)
> for my sound? Ive heard
> > allot of
> > > >
> > > > the dopefer demos online and I guess the
> impression I get is rather
> > really
> > > >
> > > > old school, simplistic and minimal/80's
> (Which I dont mind and love
> > in
> > > >
> > > > certain instances)..But at the same
> time..Can I do more with it?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > What would someone recommend I get as a
> startup, to get this sound
> > im
> > > >
> > > > after..Shall I go for a "sound
> design/shaping"a100 system..Or for a
> > "Basic
> > > >
> > > > synth system"..I have read soo many
> links/seen youtube vids etc etc
> > but
> > > >
> > > > really I wanted to hear it from the horses
> mouth, so to speak before
> > I make
> > > >
> > > > my order.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Does anyone have a "sound rape a100" system
> they can offer advice
> > on? lol
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Thanks for reading :)
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
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> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
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RE: [Doepfer_a100] Re: Newby Seeking Chaos

2010-06-02 by david.salter@thomsonreuters.com

Hi there 

 

If the list you mean is this one

 

*      > Doepfer:
> > A119input
> > A100P6 (case)
> > A124Wasp
> > A-140 env1eope
> > A-115audiodivider
> > A-116waveshaper
> > A-136distortion
> > A-188 BBD
> > A187-1
> > A189-1 Bit Crusher,
> > A137-1 Wave Multipliers
> > A106 Xtrene Filter
> > A113 Sub Harmonic Gen

 

 

Then it needs at least one VCA and LFO. In fact if you opt for a P9 case
so space isn't an issue, I would suggest you look at A143-1 with gives
you 4 basic envelopes or 4 LFO's or any combination of either, plus a
A130 and a A132-1 so giving 3 VCA's.

 

No sure if the A113 fits with a processing rack but everything else will
work and be a lot of fun.

 

David

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From: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf Of doof_per
Sent: 02 June 2010 15:12
To: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Doepfer_a100] Re: Newby Seeking Chaos

 

  



Bakkis & Robert:
Point noted and taken :)

Thanks guys, I will do just that :)

David:

"Add a mixer, a ring modulator and audio sources like VCO's and noise if
your not just processing external sounds."

- For now, I think i will be just doing external sound.

"Control comes from modulation; LFO's, Envelope generators and VCA's and
I promise you can never have enough of these."

- Would you not say that my list has that? Could you recommend any
essential units? Im already on 2100Euros on my current list :/ Maybe I
should rid of the bitcrusher and some "irrelevant" units (for now)

"It is very important to set a couple of goals you want to achieve,"

- I think my goal for my 1st startup kit, would be to be able to shape &
distort bass/synth lead sounds mainly.

--- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com
<mailto:Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com> , Robbert Jan Rink
<robbertrink@...> wrote:
>
> And do check if you can afford the P9 case. It is only a small extra
amount
> while it offers more flexibility in the future!
> 
> Robbert
> 
> On Wed, Jun 2, 2010 at 1:51 PM, <david.salter@...> wrote:
> 
> >
> >
> > The list are modules for mashing sound, however you need to control
as
> > well, even for the nastiest noise.
> >
> > Control comes from modulation; LFO's, Envelope generators and VCA's
and
> > I promise you can never have enough of these. Also sequencer is a
cool
> > choice this can be done with the A160/161 and a mixer combination or
one
> > of the many purpose built sequencers out there. These no only act as
> > note generators but CV generators, complex oscillators and more.
> >
> > Add a mixer, a ring modulator and audio sources like VCO's and noise
if
> > your not just processing external sounds.
> >
> > As I said modular has a habit of getting dangerously consuming.
> >
> > It is very important to set a couple of goals you want to achieve,
do
> > some research and ask questions and build a small system (in a
largish
> > case) to start with then expand as you develop.
> >
> >
> > David
> >
> > * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
* *
> > * * *
> > David Salter
> > Senior Consultant
> >
> > SSG UKI
> >
> > Thomson Reuters
> >
> > O +44 (0)20 7542 2402X 52402
> > M 07990562402
> >
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<Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com>[mailto:
> > Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com <mailto:Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com>
<Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com>]
> > On Behalf Of doof_per
> > Sent: 02 June 2010 12:29
> >
> > To: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com
<mailto:Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com>
<Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com>
> > Subject: [Doepfer_a100] Re: Newby Seeking Chaos
> >
> >
> > Whoa!
> >
> > This is the quickest and nicest advice ive ever gotten. THANKS GUYS!
> >
> > Thanks a million, everything is being noted & my head is spinning a
> > little although light is being shed and my ideas are getting
clearer!
> >
> > I think for now it would be best to just get the sound sources from
my
> > DAW and use the modular as an effects/shaping/sound design tool. I
would
> > probably go for modular sound source once I get my head around which
> > units/brand do what exaclty.
> >
> > Here is my current ("interest") list (as far as I can understand
from
> > reading/hearing the details of each unit specifically on the site)
> >
> > Others Brands:
> > GeigerCounter(FnckYEAH!)
> > B:assMaster (Euro Rack)
> >
> > Doepfer:
> > A119input
> > A100P6 (case)
> > A124Wasp
> > A-140 env1eope
> > A-115audiodivider
> > A-116waveshaper
> > A-136distortion
> > A-188 BBD
> > A187-1
> > A189-1 Bit Crusher,
> > A137-1 Wave Multipliers
> > A106 Xtrene Filter
> > A113 Sub Harmonic Gen
> >
> > Very confused with what these are exactly/if I need them:
> > * 1 x Trigger Divider A-160 ?
> > * 1 x VC Waveform Processor A-116?
> > * 1 x logarithmic VCA A-131?
> >
> > I do actually own a TM7 Scrotum Smasher & TM1 & llooove them dearly
:)
> >
> > So does the above list make sense to have a working/functioning box
of
> > destruction? heehee :)
> >
> > I dont mind everything being mono as I usually prefer mono anyways.
> >
> > You guys rock!!
> >
> > --- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com
<mailto:Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com>
<Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com>
> > <mailto:Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com
<Doepfer_a100%2540yahoogroups.com>>
> > , "Carci" <francois.maxime@>
> >
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > If you like Buchla, check the brand "Make noise", you'll probably
love
> > their QMMG / MATHS combo.
> > > The most extreme combo I've tried so far, for both processing and
raw
> > sound generation was A136 distortion + A106 Xtreme filter +
Metasonix
> > Scrotum smasher. Sounds go from plain powerful distortion to
unbearable
> > noises and scratches and tube screaming.
> > > The smasher is not a module but Metasonix now makes eurorack so be
> > sure to check their stuff, (especially if you like the sound on the
last
> > NIN albums, it's full of it.)
> > >
> > > Modules like A188 BBD and A189 Bit crusher can be nasty if you
like
> > digital noise.
> > >
> > > You look like you already have an idea of what sound you want to
> > produce, basic systems are great but if you wanna add more modules,
> > you'll need more rackspace. So better have a look at which modules
you
> > think you can live without in the basic system and replace them with
> > more specific modules. Trust me, the time you spend reading every
module
> > user manual will help you a lot when you get your hands on your
system
> > for the first time.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com
<mailto:Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com>
<Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com>
> > <mailto:Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com
<Doepfer_a100%2540yahoogroups.com>>
> > , Bakis Sirros
> >
> > <synth_freak_2000@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > all of this is true, but also get an A196 PLL module, for weird
and
> > harsh noises.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Bakis Sirros - Parallel Worlds / Interconnected / Memory Geist
> > > >
> > > > [Doepfer_a100] group owner
> > > >
> > > > www. parallel - worlds - music. com
> > > >
> > > > www. myspace. com/ parallelworldsmusic
> > > >
> > > > www. myspace. com/ interconnectedmusic
> > > >
> > > > www. myspace. com/ memorygeist
> > > >
> > > > www. DiN. org. uk
> > > >
> > > > www. musicamaximamagnetica. com
> > > >
> > > > www. vu-us. com
> > > >
> > > > --- On Wed, 6/2/10, York Luethje <ybl@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > From: York Luethje <ybl@>
> > > > Subject: AW: [Doepfer_a100] Newby Seeking Chaos
> > > > To: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com
<mailto:Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com>
<Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com>
> > <mailto:Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com
<Doepfer_a100%2540yahoogroups.com>>
> >
> > > > Date: Wednesday, June 2, 2010, 11:08 AM
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Hi,
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Do you want the sounds to originate with your modular or do you
want
> > to use
> > > >
> > > > it more as a processing tool (e.g. for you drum machine)?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > In the latter case I suggest at least an A-119 to get sounds
into
> > the
> > > >
> > > > system.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > In addition, Doepfer and all the other manufacturers offer vast
> > > >
> > > > possibilities for wrecking any sound; you really can't go wrong
> > there. Apart
> > > >
> > > > from the various filters take a look at wave shapers (A-116,
A-136),
> > wave
> > > >
> > > > multipliers (A-137), the A-188 range of BBDs etc. And that's
just
> > Doepfer.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > If you're not quite sure how to utilise your modular, the basic
> > system
> > > >
> > > > provides a very good starting point. If you later find out that
you
> > have no
> > > >
> > > > use for certain modules, you can always sell them and get stuff
that
> > suits
> > > >
> > > > you more.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > The likely reason you hear so many old school demos is that the
> > people that
> > > >
> > > > can afford a modular tend to be a bit older and grew up with
prog
> > rock or
> > > >
> > > > 80ies synth pop. There's no reason a modular synthesizer can't
> > produce
> > > >
> > > > contemporary sounds, especially now that more and more digital
> > sounds
> > > >
> > > > generators and processors are developed. Check out the new DSP
> > processor
> > > >
> > > > from Doepfer, but also the Tip Top Audio and Harvestman range.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > One word of caution: People tend to go for the 'Sexy' modules,
like
> > filters
> > > >
> > > > and add utility modules only as an afterthought. After messing
with
> > your
> > > >
> > > > gear for a while you will probably find that you need more
VCA's,
> > envelopes,
> > > >
> > > > LFO's etc. The basic system also supplies you with a decent
amount
> > of these.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Hope this helps,
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > York
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > _____
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Von: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com
<mailto:Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com>
<Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com>
> > <mailto:Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com
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<Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com>
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<Doepfer_a100%2540yahoogroups.com>>
> > ] Im
> >
> > > >
> > > > Auftrag von doof_per
> > > >
> > > > Gesendet: Mittwoch, 2. Juni 2010 03:41
> > > >
> > > > An: doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com
<mailto:doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com>
<doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com>
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<doepfer_a100%2540yahoogroups.com>>
> >
> > > >
> > > > Betreff: [Doepfer_a100] Newby Seeking Chaos
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Hi Guys,
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Ive spent hours and hours and hours online checking out modular
gear
> > and
> > > >
> > > > (trying) to get my head around it all. For now, ive saved up
enough
> > to get
> > > >
> > > > an a100 Basic System2 and im hoping for the best! :)
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > What I wanted to know from anyone:
> > > >
> > > > Im only after modular gear for the "alive" sounds ive heard from
> > other
> > > >
> > > > peoples stuff (mainly Buchla TBH..love that sound!..But cant
afford
> > > >
> > > > one..anyways thats irrelevant)
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Im mainly into really distorted sounds, drum n bass,
> > mechanical/industrial
> > > >
> > > > and love shaping sounds and spending hours on a sound to make it
> > right and
> > > >
> > > > come "alive".
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Am I looking in the right place(Doepfer?) for my sound? Ive
heard
> > allot of
> > > >
> > > > the dopefer demos online and I guess the impression I get is
rather
> > really
> > > >
> > > > old school, simplistic and minimal/80's (Which I dont mind and
love
> > in
> > > >
> > > > certain instances)..But at the same time..Can I do more with it?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > What would someone recommend I get as a startup, to get this
sound
> > im
> > > >
> > > > after..Shall I go for a "sound design/shaping"a100 system..Or
for a
> > "Basic
> > > >
> > > > synth system"..I have read soo many links/seen youtube vids etc
etc
> > but
> > > >
> > > > really I wanted to hear it from the horses mouth, so to speak
before
> > I make
> > > >
> > > > my order.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Does anyone have a "sound rape a100" system they can offer
advice
> > on? lol
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Thanks for reading :)
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
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> > > >
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AW: [Doepfer_a100] Re: Newby Seeking Chaos

2010-06-02 by York Luethje

Hi,

 

You had some questions about modules. The A-160 (clock) divider takes a
clock signal (from a sequencer or a Midi-> CV converter) and creates
rhythmic divisions, such as ½, 1/8 and so on. This way you can synchronise a
voltage controlled LFO to your master clock, for example. 

 

The A-116 VC waveform processor takes an input waveform and mangles it
through two parameters, clipping and symmetry, which are both under voltage
control. Serious sound destruction can be had.

 

Regarding logarithmic vs. linear characteristics: You have two types of
signals in a (normal) modular system, linear and logarithmic. Control
voltages conform to linear, audio to logarithmic. Therefore a logarithmic
VCA is better suited for audio duties. Mind you, you are by no means
required to use it that way.

 

The A-113 sub harmonic generator is part of Doepfer’s Trautonium project
where they recreated the functionality of the pioneer electronic instrument
‘Trautonium’ (google Oscar Sala) and recreated it in a modular system.
Pretty awesome, if you ask me. The other module in that range is the A-104
Trautonium formant filter. The A-113 takes a square wave (from an A-110 for
instance) and generates 4 independent lower frequency square waves. I am not
sure if this module will suit your need. The ratio of the individual square
waves is not under voltage control. On the other hand, it gives you some
very serious low end potential. But you need a square wave to start with. 

 

I second what David said about envelopes and VCA’s, can’t have enough of
them. Also, consider a joy stick (A-174). Two independent control voltages
under manual control. 

 

York

 

  _____  

Von: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com] Im
Auftrag von doof_per
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 2. Juni 2010 07:29
An: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com
Betreff: [Doepfer_a100] Re: Newby Seeking Chaos

 

  



Whoa!

This is the quickest and nicest advice ive ever gotten. THANKS GUYS!

Thanks a million, everything is being noted & my head is spinning a little
although light is being shed and my ideas are getting clearer!

I think for now it would be best to just get the sound sources from my DAW
and use the modular as an effects/shaping/sound design tool. I would
probably go for modular sound source once I get my head around which
units/brand do what exaclty.

Here is my current ("interest") list (as far as I can understand from
reading/hearing the details of each unit specifically on the site)

Others Brands: 
GeigerCounter(FnckYEAH!) 
B:assMaster (Euro Rack)

Doepfer:
A119input 
A100P6 (case) 
A124Wasp 
A-140 env1eope 
A-115audiodivider 
A-116waveshaper 
A-136distortion 
A-188 BBD 
A187-1 
A189-1 Bit Crusher, 
A137-1 Wave Multipliers 
A106 Xtrene Filter 
A113 Sub Harmonic Gen 

Very confused with what these are exactly/if I need them:
* 1 x Trigger Divider A-160 ?
* 1 x VC Waveform Processor A-116?
* 1 x logarithmic VCA A-131?

I do actually own a TM7 Scrotum Smasher & TM1 & llooove them dearly :)

So does the above list make sense to have a working/functioning box of
destruction? heehee :)

I dont mind everything being mono as I usually prefer mono anyways.

You guys rock!!

--- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com <mailto:Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com>
, "Carci" <francois.maxime@...> wrote:
>
> Hi,
> 
> If you like Buchla, check the brand "Make noise", you'll probably love
their QMMG / MATHS combo.
> The most extreme combo I've tried so far, for both processing and raw
sound generation was A136 distortion + A106 Xtreme filter + Metasonix
Scrotum smasher. Sounds go from plain powerful distortion to unbearable
noises and scratches and tube screaming.
> The smasher is not a module but Metasonix now makes eurorack so be sure to
check their stuff, (especially if you like the sound on the last NIN albums,
it's full of it.)
> 
> Modules like A188 BBD and A189 Bit crusher can be nasty if you like
digital noise.
> 
> You look like you already have an idea of what sound you want to produce,
basic systems are great but if you wanna add more modules, you'll need more
rackspace. So better have a look at which modules you think you can live
without in the basic system and replace them with more specific modules.
Trust me, the time you spend reading every module user manual will help you
a lot when you get your hands on your system for the first time. 
> 
> 
> 
> --- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com
<mailto:Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com> , Bakis Sirros <synth_freak_2000@>
wrote:
> >
> > all of this is true, but also get an A196 PLL module, for weird and
harsh noises.
> > 
> > 
> > Bakis Sirros - Parallel Worlds / Interconnected / Memory Geist
> > 
> > [Doepfer_a100] group owner
> > 
> > www. parallel - worlds - music. com
> > 
> > www. myspace. com/ parallelworldsmusic
> > 
> > www. myspace. com/ interconnectedmusic
> > 
> > www. myspace. com/ memorygeist
> > 
> > www. DiN. org. uk
> > 
> > www. musicamaximamagnetica. com
> > 
> > www. vu-us. com
> > 
> > --- On Wed, 6/2/10, York Luethje <ybl@> wrote:
> > 
> > From: York Luethje <ybl@>
> > Subject: AW: [Doepfer_a100] Newby Seeking Chaos
> > To: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com <mailto:Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com>

> > Date: Wednesday, June 2, 2010, 11:08 AM
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Hi,
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Do you want the sounds to originate with your modular or do you want to
use
> > 
> > it more as a processing tool (e.g. for you drum machine)? 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > In the latter case I suggest at least an A-119 to get sounds into the
> > 
> > system.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > In addition, Doepfer and all the other manufacturers offer vast
> > 
> > possibilities for wrecking any sound; you really can't go wrong there.
Apart
> > 
> > from the various filters take a look at wave shapers (A-116, A-136),
wave
> > 
> > multipliers (A-137), the A-188 range of BBDs etc. And that's just
Doepfer. 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > If you're not quite sure how to utilise your modular, the basic system
> > 
> > provides a very good starting point. If you later find out that you have
no
> > 
> > use for certain modules, you can always sell them and get stuff that
suits
> > 
> > you more.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > The likely reason you hear so many old school demos is that the people
that
> > 
> > can afford a modular tend to be a bit older and grew up with prog rock
or
> > 
> > 80ies synth pop. There's no reason a modular synthesizer can't produce
> > 
> > contemporary sounds, especially now that more and more digital sounds
> > 
> > generators and processors are developed. Check out the new DSP processor
> > 
> > from Doepfer, but also the Tip Top Audio and Harvestman range.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > One word of caution: People tend to go for the 'Sexy' modules, like
filters
> > 
> > and add utility modules only as an afterthought. After messing with your
> > 
> > gear for a while you will probably find that you need more VCA's,
envelopes,
> > 
> > LFO's etc. The basic system also supplies you with a decent amount of
these.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Hope this helps,
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > York
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > _____ 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Von: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com
<mailto:Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com>
[mailto:Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com <mailto:Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com>
] Im
> > 
> > Auftrag von doof_per
> > 
> > Gesendet: Mittwoch, 2. Juni 2010 03:41
> > 
> > An: doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com <mailto:doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com>

> > 
> > Betreff: [Doepfer_a100] Newby Seeking Chaos
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Hi Guys,
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Ive spent hours and hours and hours online checking out modular gear and
> > 
> > (trying) to get my head around it all. For now, ive saved up enough to
get
> > 
> > an a100 Basic System2 and im hoping for the best! :)
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > What I wanted to know from anyone:
> > 
> > Im only after modular gear for the "alive" sounds ive heard from other
> > 
> > peoples stuff (mainly Buchla TBH..love that sound!..But cant afford
> > 
> > one..anyways thats irrelevant)
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Im mainly into really distorted sounds, drum n bass,
mechanical/industrial
> > 
> > and love shaping sounds and spending hours on a sound to make it right
and
> > 
> > come "alive". 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Am I looking in the right place(Doepfer?) for my sound? Ive heard allot
of
> > 
> > the dopefer demos online and I guess the impression I get is rather
really
> > 
> > old school, simplistic and minimal/80's (Which I dont mind and love in
> > 
> > certain instances)..But at the same time..Can I do more with it?
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > What would someone recommend I get as a startup, to get this sound im
> > 
> > after..Shall I go for a "sound design/shaping"a100 system..Or for a
"Basic
> > 
> > synth system"..I have read soo many links/seen youtube vids etc etc but
> > 
> > really I wanted to hear it from the horses mouth, so to speak before I
make
> > 
> > my order.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Does anyone have a "sound rape a100" system they can offer advice on?
lol
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Thanks for reading :)
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
>





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Re: [Doepfer_a100] Re: Newby Seeking Chaos

2010-06-02 by achtung_999

I would omit the A116 seeing the other units you are getting.
The A137-1 and the A136 run 5 circles around the A116 ;-)
I used to own al three but ended up not using the A116, I sold it in the
end.
In your case I would rather buy a ring modulator and a nice VCO with it.
Or if you want to keep it cheap go for an an a143-9 which is theory an LFO
but in practice a very fine VCO to use alongside a ringmodulator to mess
signals!


grzt

Ernst

On Wed, Jun 2, 2010 at 10:30 PM, York Luethje <ybl@yahoo.com> wrote:

>
>
> Hi,
>
> You had some questions about modules. The A-160 (clock) divider takes a
> clock signal (from a sequencer or a Midi-> CV converter) and creates
> rhythmic divisions, such as �, 1/8 and so on. This way you can synchronise
> a
> voltage controlled LFO to your master clock, for example.
>
> The A-116 VC waveform processor takes an input waveform and mangles it
> through two parameters, clipping and symmetry, which are both under voltage
> control. Serious sound destruction can be had.
>
> Regarding logarithmic vs. linear characteristics: You have two types of
> signals in a (normal) modular system, linear and logarithmic. Control
> voltages conform to linear, audio to logarithmic. Therefore a logarithmic
> VCA is better suited for audio duties. Mind you, you are by no means
> required to use it that way.
>
> The A-113 sub harmonic generator is part of Doepfer�s Trautonium project
> where they recreated the functionality of the pioneer electronic instrument
> �Trautonium� (google Oscar Sala) and recreated it in a modular system.
> Pretty awesome, if you ask me. The other module in that range is the A-104
> Trautonium formant filter. The A-113 takes a square wave (from an A-110 for
> instance) and generates 4 independent lower frequency square waves. I am
> not
> sure if this module will suit your need. The ratio of the individual square
> waves is not under voltage control. On the other hand, it gives you some
> very serious low end potential. But you need a square wave to start with.
>
> I second what David said about envelopes and VCA�s, can�t have enough of
> them. Also, consider a joy stick (A-174). Two independent control voltages
> under manual control.
>
> York
>
> _____
>
> Von: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com <Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com>[mailto:
> Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com <Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com>] Im
> Auftrag von doof_per
> Gesendet: Mittwoch, 2. Juni 2010 07:29
>
> An: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com <Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com>
> Betreff: [Doepfer_a100] Re: Newby Seeking Chaos
>
>
> Whoa!
>
> This is the quickest and nicest advice ive ever gotten. THANKS GUYS!
>
> Thanks a million, everything is being noted & my head is spinning a little
> although light is being shed and my ideas are getting clearer!
>
> I think for now it would be best to just get the sound sources from my DAW
> and use the modular as an effects/shaping/sound design tool. I would
> probably go for modular sound source once I get my head around which
> units/brand do what exaclty.
>
> Here is my current ("interest") list (as far as I can understand from
> reading/hearing the details of each unit specifically on the site)
>
> Others Brands:
> GeigerCounter(FnckYEAH!)
> B:assMaster (Euro Rack)
>
> Doepfer:
> A119input
> A100P6 (case)
> A124Wasp
> A-140 env1eope
> A-115audiodivider
> A-116waveshaper
> A-136distortion
> A-188 BBD
> A187-1
> A189-1 Bit Crusher,
> A137-1 Wave Multipliers
> A106 Xtrene Filter
> A113 Sub Harmonic Gen
>
> Very confused with what these are exactly/if I need them:
> * 1 x Trigger Divider A-160 ?
> * 1 x VC Waveform Processor A-116?
> * 1 x logarithmic VCA A-131?
>
> I do actually own a TM7 Scrotum Smasher & TM1 & llooove them dearly :)
>
> So does the above list make sense to have a working/functioning box of
> destruction? heehee :)
>
> I dont mind everything being mono as I usually prefer mono anyways.
>
> You guys rock!!
>
> --- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com <Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:
> Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com <Doepfer_a100%2540yahoogroups.com>>
>
> , "Carci" <francois.maxime@...> wrote:
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > If you like Buchla, check the brand "Make noise", you'll probably love
> their QMMG / MATHS combo.
> > The most extreme combo I've tried so far, for both processing and raw
> sound generation was A136 distortion + A106 Xtreme filter + Metasonix
> Scrotum smasher. Sounds go from plain powerful distortion to unbearable
> noises and scratches and tube screaming.
> > The smasher is not a module but Metasonix now makes eurorack so be sure
> to
> check their stuff, (especially if you like the sound on the last NIN
> albums,
> it's full of it.)
> >
> > Modules like A188 BBD and A189 Bit crusher can be nasty if you like
> digital noise.
> >
> > You look like you already have an idea of what sound you want to produce,
> basic systems are great but if you wanna add more modules, you'll need more
> rackspace. So better have a look at which modules you think you can live
> without in the basic system and replace them with more specific modules.
> Trust me, the time you spend reading every module user manual will help you
> a lot when you get your hands on your system for the first time.
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com <Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com>
> <mailto:Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com <Doepfer_a100%2540yahoogroups.com>>
> , Bakis Sirros <synth_freak_2000@>
>
> wrote:
> > >
> > > all of this is true, but also get an A196 PLL module, for weird and
> harsh noises.
> > >
> > >
> > > Bakis Sirros - Parallel Worlds / Interconnected / Memory Geist
> > >
> > > [Doepfer_a100] group owner
> > >
> > > www. parallel - worlds - music. com
> > >
> > > www. myspace. com/ parallelworldsmusic
> > >
> > > www. myspace. com/ interconnectedmusic
> > >
> > > www. myspace. com/ memorygeist
> > >
> > > www. DiN. org. uk
> > >
> > > www. musicamaximamagnetica. com
> > >
> > > www. vu-us. com
> > >
> > > --- On Wed, 6/2/10, York Luethje <ybl@> wrote:
> > >
> > > From: York Luethje <ybl@>
> > > Subject: AW: [Doepfer_a100] Newby Seeking Chaos
> > > To: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com <Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:
> Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com <Doepfer_a100%2540yahoogroups.com>>
>
>
> > > Date: Wednesday, June 2, 2010, 11:08 AM
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Do you want the sounds to originate with your modular or do you want to
> use
> > >
> > > it more as a processing tool (e.g. for you drum machine)?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > In the latter case I suggest at least an A-119 to get sounds into the
> > >
> > > system.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > In addition, Doepfer and all the other manufacturers offer vast
> > >
> > > possibilities for wrecking any sound; you really can't go wrong there.
> Apart
> > >
> > > from the various filters take a look at wave shapers (A-116, A-136),
> wave
> > >
> > > multipliers (A-137), the A-188 range of BBDs etc. And that's just
> Doepfer.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > If you're not quite sure how to utilise your modular, the basic system
> > >
> > > provides a very good starting point. If you later find out that you
> have
> no
> > >
> > > use for certain modules, you can always sell them and get stuff that
> suits
> > >
> > > you more.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > The likely reason you hear so many old school demos is that the people
> that
> > >
> > > can afford a modular tend to be a bit older and grew up with prog rock
> or
> > >
> > > 80ies synth pop. There's no reason a modular synthesizer can't produce
> > >
> > > contemporary sounds, especially now that more and more digital sounds
> > >
> > > generators and processors are developed. Check out the new DSP
> processor
> > >
> > > from Doepfer, but also the Tip Top Audio and Harvestman range.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > One word of caution: People tend to go for the 'Sexy' modules, like
> filters
> > >
> > > and add utility modules only as an afterthought. After messing with
> your
> > >
> > > gear for a while you will probably find that you need more VCA's,
> envelopes,
> > >
> > > LFO's etc. The basic system also supplies you with a decent amount of
> these.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Hope this helps,
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > York
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > _____
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Von: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com <Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com>
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> > >
> > > Auftrag von doof_per
> > >
> > > Gesendet: Mittwoch, 2. Juni 2010 03:41
> > >
> > > An: doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com <doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:
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> > >
> > > Betreff: [Doepfer_a100] Newby Seeking Chaos
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Hi Guys,
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Ive spent hours and hours and hours online checking out modular gear
> and
> > >
> > > (trying) to get my head around it all. For now, ive saved up enough to
> get
> > >
> > > an a100 Basic System2 and im hoping for the best! :)
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > What I wanted to know from anyone:
> > >
> > > Im only after modular gear for the "alive" sounds ive heard from other
> > >
> > > peoples stuff (mainly Buchla TBH..love that sound!..But cant afford
> > >
> > > one..anyways thats irrelevant)
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Im mainly into really distorted sounds, drum n bass,
> mechanical/industrial
> > >
> > > and love shaping sounds and spending hours on a sound to make it right
> and
> > >
> > > come "alive".
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Am I looking in the right place(Doepfer?) for my sound? Ive heard allot
> of
> > >
> > > the dopefer demos online and I guess the impression I get is rather
> really
> > >
> > > old school, simplistic and minimal/80's (Which I dont mind and love in
> > >
> > > certain instances)..But at the same time..Can I do more with it?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > What would someone recommend I get as a startup, to get this sound im
> > >
> > > after..Shall I go for a "sound design/shaping"a100 system..Or for a
> "Basic
> > >
> > > synth system"..I have read soo many links/seen youtube vids etc etc but
> > >
> > > really I wanted to hear it from the horses mouth, so to speak before I
> make
> > >
> > > my order.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Does anyone have a "sound rape a100" system they can offer advice on?
> lol
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Thanks for reading :)
> > >
> > >
> > >
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Re: AW: [Doepfer_a100] Re: Newby Seeking Chaos

2010-06-02 by Florian Anwander

Hi York

> You had some questions about modules. The A-160 (clock) divider takes a
> clock signal (from a sequencer or a Midi-> CV converter) and creates
> rhythmic divisions, such as ½, 1/8 and so on. This way you can synchronise a
> voltage controlled LFO to your master clock, for example. 
This suggestion I don't understand. How do you control a voltage 
controlled module by a trigger?? Or did you want to say you can reset 
the LFO? But resetting an LFO doesn't have anything in common with 
synchronising its tempo!

Florian

AW: AW: [Doepfer_a100] Re: Newby Seeking Chaos

2010-06-03 by York Luethje

Moin Florian,

 

Surely if someone knows the answer it is you :-)

 

I was obviously not clear enough. The A-160 does output trigger impulses
which are a kind of voltage control, but not the continuous one implied. As
you said you can use the trigger to reset a LFO, which can give you effects
in sync with a master clock. For a complete tempo synchronisation where not
only the starting point of the LFO waveform but its complete cycle is in
sync with the master clock you would have to derive a control voltage from
an appropriately specified Midi -> CV interface. If the master clock is
external, that is. 

 

York

 

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Von: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com] Im
Auftrag von Florian Anwander
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 2. Juni 2010 19:12
An: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com
Betreff: Re: AW: [Doepfer_a100] Re: Newby Seeking Chaos

 

  

Hi York

> You had some questions about modules. The A-160 (clock) divider takes a
> clock signal (from a sequencer or a Midi-> CV converter) and creates
> rhythmic divisions, such as ½, 1/8 and so on. This way you can synchronise
a
> voltage controlled LFO to your master clock, for example. 
This suggestion I don't understand. How do you control a voltage 
controlled module by a trigger?? Or did you want to say you can reset 
the LFO? But resetting an LFO doesn't have anything in common with 
synchronising its tempo!

Florian





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Re: Newby Seeking Chaos

2010-06-03 by Carci

A148 SnH is a nice small and inexpensive module.

It can be used to sample and hold control voltages, like having a random filter cutoff frequency for each new note you're playing.

It can also be used to process audio and achieve hardcore aliasing effects, using a LFO or an OSC to get a low sampling rate. 


I'm not too sure about the use of a subharmonic generator in your system.


--- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, "doof_per" <doof_per@...> wrote:
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> 
> Bakkis & Robert:
> Point noted and taken :)
> 
> Thanks guys, I will do just that :)
> 
> 
> 
> David:
> 
> "Add a mixer, a ring modulator and audio sources like VCO's and noise if your not just processing external sounds."
> 
> - For now, I think i will be just doing external sound.
> 
> "Control comes from modulation; LFO's, Envelope generators and VCA's and I promise you can never have enough of these."
> 
> - Would you not say that my list has that? Could you recommend any essential units? Im already on 2100Euros on my current list :/ Maybe I should rid of the bitcrusher and some "irrelevant" units (for now)
> 
> "It is very important to set a couple of goals you want to achieve,"
> 
> - I think my goal for my 1st startup kit, would be to be able to shape & distort bass/synth lead sounds mainly.
> 
> 
> --- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, Robbert Jan Rink <robbertrink@> wrote:
> >
> > And do check if you can afford the P9 case. It is only a small extra amount
> > while it offers more flexibility in the future!
> > 
> > Robbert
> > 
> > On Wed, Jun 2, 2010 at 1:51 PM, <david.salter@> wrote:
> > 
> > >
> > >
> > > The list are modules for mashing sound, however you need to control as
> > > well, even for the nastiest noise.
> > >
> > > Control comes from modulation; LFO's, Envelope generators and VCA's and
> > > I promise you can never have enough of these. Also sequencer is a cool
> > > choice this can be done with the A160/161 and a mixer combination or one
> > > of the many purpose built sequencers out there. These no only act as
> > > note generators but CV generators, complex oscillators and more.
> > >
> > > Add a mixer, a ring modulator and audio sources like VCO's and noise if
> > > your not just processing external sounds.
> > >
> > > As I said modular has a habit of getting dangerously consuming.
> > >
> > > It is very important to set a couple of goals you want to achieve, do
> > > some research and ask questions and build a small system (in a largish
> > > case) to start with then expand as you develop.
> > >
> > >
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> > > Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com <Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com>]
> > > On Behalf Of doof_per
> > > Sent: 02 June 2010 12:29
> > >
> > > To: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com <Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > Subject: [Doepfer_a100] Re: Newby Seeking Chaos
> > >
> > >
> > > Whoa!
> > >
> > > This is the quickest and nicest advice ive ever gotten. THANKS GUYS!
> > >
> > > Thanks a million, everything is being noted & my head is spinning a
> > > little although light is being shed and my ideas are getting clearer!
> > >
> > > I think for now it would be best to just get the sound sources from my
> > > DAW and use the modular as an effects/shaping/sound design tool. I would
> > > probably go for modular sound source once I get my head around which
> > > units/brand do what exaclty.
> > >
> > > Here is my current ("interest") list (as far as I can understand from
> > > reading/hearing the details of each unit specifically on the site)
> > >
> > > Others Brands:
> > > GeigerCounter(FnckYEAH!)
> > > B:assMaster (Euro Rack)
> > >
> > > Doepfer:
> > > A119input
> > > A100P6 (case)
> > > A124Wasp
> > > A-140 env1eope
> > > A-115audiodivider
> > > A-116waveshaper
> > > A-136distortion
> > > A-188 BBD
> > > A187-1
> > > A189-1 Bit Crusher,
> > > A137-1 Wave Multipliers
> > > A106 Xtrene Filter
> > > A113 Sub Harmonic Gen
> > >
> > > Very confused with what these are exactly/if I need them:
> > > * 1 x Trigger Divider A-160 ?
> > > * 1 x VC Waveform Processor A-116?
> > > * 1 x logarithmic VCA A-131?
> > >
> > > I do actually own a TM7 Scrotum Smasher & TM1 & llooove them dearly :)
> > >
> > > So does the above list make sense to have a working/functioning box of
> > > destruction? heehee :)
> > >
> > > I dont mind everything being mono as I usually prefer mono anyways.
> > >
> > > You guys rock!!
> > >
> > > --- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com <Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > <mailto:Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com <Doepfer_a100%2540yahoogroups.com>>
> > > , "Carci" <francois.maxime@>
> > >
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Hi,
> > > >
> > > > If you like Buchla, check the brand "Make noise", you'll probably love
> > > their QMMG / MATHS combo.
> > > > The most extreme combo I've tried so far, for both processing and raw
> > > sound generation was A136 distortion + A106 Xtreme filter + Metasonix
> > > Scrotum smasher. Sounds go from plain powerful distortion to unbearable
> > > noises and scratches and tube screaming.
> > > > The smasher is not a module but Metasonix now makes eurorack so be
> > > sure to check their stuff, (especially if you like the sound on the last
> > > NIN albums, it's full of it.)
> > > >
> > > > Modules like A188 BBD and A189 Bit crusher can be nasty if you like
> > > digital noise.
> > > >
> > > > You look like you already have an idea of what sound you want to
> > > produce, basic systems are great but if you wanna add more modules,
> > > you'll need more rackspace. So better have a look at which modules you
> > > think you can live without in the basic system and replace them with
> > > more specific modules. Trust me, the time you spend reading every module
> > > user manual will help you a lot when you get your hands on your system
> > > for the first time.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com <Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > <mailto:Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com <Doepfer_a100%2540yahoogroups.com>>
> > > , Bakis Sirros
> > >
> > > <synth_freak_2000@> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > all of this is true, but also get an A196 PLL module, for weird and
> > > harsh noises.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Bakis Sirros - Parallel Worlds / Interconnected / Memory Geist
> > > > >
> > > > > [Doepfer_a100] group owner
> > > > >
> > > > > www. parallel - worlds - music. com
> > > > >
> > > > > www. myspace. com/ parallelworldsmusic
> > > > >
> > > > > www. myspace. com/ interconnectedmusic
> > > > >
> > > > > www. myspace. com/ memorygeist
> > > > >
> > > > > www. DiN. org. uk
> > > > >
> > > > > www. musicamaximamagnetica. com
> > > > >
> > > > > www. vu-us. com
> > > > >
> > > > > --- On Wed, 6/2/10, York Luethje <ybl@> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > From: York Luethje <ybl@>
> > > > > Subject: AW: [Doepfer_a100] Newby Seeking Chaos
> > > > > To: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com <Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > <mailto:Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com <Doepfer_a100%2540yahoogroups.com>>
> > >
> > >  > > Date: Wednesday, June 2, 2010, 11:08 AM
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Hi,
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Do you want the sounds to originate with your modular or do you want
> > > to use
> > > > >
> > > > > it more as a processing tool (e.g. for you drum machine)?
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > In the latter case I suggest at least an A-119 to get sounds into
> > > the
> > > > >
> > > > > system.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > In addition, Doepfer and all the other manufacturers offer vast
> > > > >
> > > > > possibilities for wrecking any sound; you really can't go wrong
> > > there. Apart
> > > > >
> > > > > from the various filters take a look at wave shapers (A-116, A-136),
> > > wave
> > > > >
> > > > > multipliers (A-137), the A-188 range of BBDs etc. And that's just
> > > Doepfer.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > If you're not quite sure how to utilise your modular, the basic
> > > system
> > > > >
> > > > > provides a very good starting point. If you later find out that you
> > > have no
> > > > >
> > > > > use for certain modules, you can always sell them and get stuff that
> > > suits
> > > > >
> > > > > you more.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > The likely reason you hear so many old school demos is that the
> > > people that
> > > > >
> > > > > can afford a modular tend to be a bit older and grew up with prog
> > > rock or
> > > > >
> > > > > 80ies synth pop. There's no reason a modular synthesizer can't
> > > produce
> > > > >
> > > > > contemporary sounds, especially now that more and more digital
> > > sounds
> > > > >
> > > > > generators and processors are developed. Check out the new DSP
> > > processor
> > > > >
> > > > > from Doepfer, but also the Tip Top Audio and Harvestman range.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > One word of caution: People tend to go for the 'Sexy' modules, like
> > > filters
> > > > >
> > > > > and add utility modules only as an afterthought. After messing with
> > > your
> > > > >
> > > > > gear for a while you will probably find that you need more VCA's,
> > > envelopes,
> > > > >
> > > > > LFO's etc. The basic system also supplies you with a decent amount
> > > of these.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Hope this helps,
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > York
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > _____
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Von: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com <Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > <mailto:Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com <Doepfer_a100%2540yahoogroups.com>>
> > >
> > >
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> > > <mailto:Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com <Doepfer_a100%2540yahoogroups.com>>
> > > ] Im
> > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Auftrag von doof_per
> > > > >
> > > > > Gesendet: Mittwoch, 2. Juni 2010 03:41
> > > > >
> > > > > An: doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com <doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > <mailto:doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com <doepfer_a100%2540yahoogroups.com>>
> > >
> > >  > >
> > > > > Betreff: [Doepfer_a100] Newby Seeking Chaos
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Hi Guys,
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Ive spent hours and hours and hours online checking out modular gear
> > > and
> > > > >
> > > > > (trying) to get my head around it all. For now, ive saved up enough
> > > to get
> > > > >
> > > > > an a100 Basic System2 and im hoping for the best! :)
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > What I wanted to know from anyone:
> > > > >
> > > > > Im only after modular gear for the "alive" sounds ive heard from
> > > other
> > > > >
> > > > > peoples stuff (mainly Buchla TBH..love that sound!..But cant afford
> > > > >
> > > > > one..anyways thats irrelevant)
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Im mainly into really distorted sounds, drum n bass,
> > > mechanical/industrial
> > > > >
> > > > > and love shaping sounds and spending hours on a sound to make it
> > > right and
> > > > >
> > > > > come "alive".
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Am I looking in the right place(Doepfer?) for my sound? Ive heard
> > > allot of
> > > > >
> > > > > the dopefer demos online and I guess the impression I get is rather
> > > really
> > > > >
> > > > > old school, simplistic and minimal/80's (Which I dont mind and love
> > > in
> > > > >
> > > > > certain instances)..But at the same time..Can I do more with it?
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > What would someone recommend I get as a startup, to get this sound
> > > im
> > > > >
> > > > > after..Shall I go for a "sound design/shaping"a100 system..Or for a
> > > "Basic
> > > > >
> > > > > synth system"..I have read soo many links/seen youtube vids etc etc
> > > but
> > > > >
> > > > > really I wanted to hear it from the horses mouth, so to speak before
> > > I make
> > > > >
> > > > > my order.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Does anyone have a "sound rape a100" system they can offer advice
> > > on? lol
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks for reading :)
> > > > >
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Re: Newby Seeking Chaos

2010-06-03 by doof_per

Wow.

The response & knowledge being shed is amazing. Thank you, I am very grateful (David, York, Nick, Ernst & the others :)

So im really starting to understand this more and more by the click of my mouse :)

Here is my updated list..I think this should cover it!?

Other Brands:
Geiger Counter 			
B:assMaster 	
Metasonix R53					

Doepfer:
A100P9 (case)				
A-143-1 Quad AD Generator	
A138-b log Mixer		
A-114 Ring Modulator		
A132-1 Dual VCA		
A119 input					
A137-1 & A137-2 Wave Multipliers, 	
A106 Xtrene Filter
A-111-5 Dark Energy (Why the hell not!)		
A190-2 MIDI (For Dark Energy)

Can I make loud demonic noises yet pllllease?!?



--- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, "doof_per" <doof_per@...> wrote:
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> 
> Bakkis & Robert:
> Point noted and taken :)
> 
> Thanks guys, I will do just that :)
> 
> 
> 
> David:
> 
> "Add a mixer, a ring modulator and audio sources like VCO's and noise if your not just processing external sounds."
> 
> - For now, I think i will be just doing external sound.
> 
> "Control comes from modulation; LFO's, Envelope generators and VCA's and I promise you can never have enough of these."
> 
> - Would you not say that my list has that? Could you recommend any essential units? Im already on 2100Euros on my current list :/ Maybe I should rid of the bitcrusher and some "irrelevant" units (for now)
> 
> "It is very important to set a couple of goals you want to achieve,"
> 
> - I think my goal for my 1st startup kit, would be to be able to shape & distort bass/synth lead sounds mainly.
> 
> 
> --- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, Robbert Jan Rink <robbertrink@> wrote:
> >
> > And do check if you can afford the P9 case. It is only a small extra amount
> > while it offers more flexibility in the future!
> > 
> > Robbert
> > 
> > On Wed, Jun 2, 2010 at 1:51 PM, <david.salter@> wrote:
> > 
> > >
> > >
> > > The list are modules for mashing sound, however you need to control as
> > > well, even for the nastiest noise.
> > >
> > > Control comes from modulation; LFO's, Envelope generators and VCA's and
> > > I promise you can never have enough of these. Also sequencer is a cool
> > > choice this can be done with the A160/161 and a mixer combination or one
> > > of the many purpose built sequencers out there. These no only act as
> > > note generators but CV generators, complex oscillators and more.
> > >
> > > Add a mixer, a ring modulator and audio sources like VCO's and noise if
> > > your not just processing external sounds.
> > >
> > > As I said modular has a habit of getting dangerously consuming.
> > >
> > > It is very important to set a couple of goals you want to achieve, do
> > > some research and ask questions and build a small system (in a largish
> > > case) to start with then expand as you develop.
> > >
> > >
> > > David
> > >
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> > > Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com <Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com>]
> > > On Behalf Of doof_per
> > > Sent: 02 June 2010 12:29
> > >
> > > To: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com <Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > Subject: [Doepfer_a100] Re: Newby Seeking Chaos
> > >
> > >
> > > Whoa!
> > >
> > > This is the quickest and nicest advice ive ever gotten. THANKS GUYS!
> > >
> > > Thanks a million, everything is being noted & my head is spinning a
> > > little although light is being shed and my ideas are getting clearer!
> > >
> > > I think for now it would be best to just get the sound sources from my
> > > DAW and use the modular as an effects/shaping/sound design tool. I would
> > > probably go for modular sound source once I get my head around which
> > > units/brand do what exaclty.
> > >
> > > Here is my current ("interest") list (as far as I can understand from
> > > reading/hearing the details of each unit specifically on the site)
> > >
> > > Others Brands:
> > > GeigerCounter(FnckYEAH!)
> > > B:assMaster (Euro Rack)
> > >
> > > Doepfer:
> > > A119input
> > > A100P6 (case)
> > > A124Wasp
> > > A-140 env1eope
> > > A-115audiodivider
> > > A-116waveshaper
> > > A-136distortion
> > > A-188 BBD
> > > A187-1
> > > A189-1 Bit Crusher,
> > > A137-1 Wave Multipliers
> > > A106 Xtrene Filter
> > > A113 Sub Harmonic Gen
> > >
> > > Very confused with what these are exactly/if I need them:
> > > * 1 x Trigger Divider A-160 ?
> > > * 1 x VC Waveform Processor A-116?
> > > * 1 x logarithmic VCA A-131?
> > >
> > > I do actually own a TM7 Scrotum Smasher & TM1 & llooove them dearly :)
> > >
> > > So does the above list make sense to have a working/functioning box of
> > > destruction? heehee :)
> > >
> > > I dont mind everything being mono as I usually prefer mono anyways.
> > >
> > > You guys rock!!
> > >
> > > --- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com <Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > <mailto:Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com <Doepfer_a100%2540yahoogroups.com>>
> > > , "Carci" <francois.maxime@>
> > >
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Hi,
> > > >
> > > > If you like Buchla, check the brand "Make noise", you'll probably love
> > > their QMMG / MATHS combo.
> > > > The most extreme combo I've tried so far, for both processing and raw
> > > sound generation was A136 distortion + A106 Xtreme filter + Metasonix
> > > Scrotum smasher. Sounds go from plain powerful distortion to unbearable
> > > noises and scratches and tube screaming.
> > > > The smasher is not a module but Metasonix now makes eurorack so be
> > > sure to check their stuff, (especially if you like the sound on the last
> > > NIN albums, it's full of it.)
> > > >
> > > > Modules like A188 BBD and A189 Bit crusher can be nasty if you like
> > > digital noise.
> > > >
> > > > You look like you already have an idea of what sound you want to
> > > produce, basic systems are great but if you wanna add more modules,
> > > you'll need more rackspace. So better have a look at which modules you
> > > think you can live without in the basic system and replace them with
> > > more specific modules. Trust me, the time you spend reading every module
> > > user manual will help you a lot when you get your hands on your system
> > > for the first time.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com <Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > <mailto:Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com <Doepfer_a100%2540yahoogroups.com>>
> > > , Bakis Sirros
> > >
> > > <synth_freak_2000@> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > all of this is true, but also get an A196 PLL module, for weird and
> > > harsh noises.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Bakis Sirros - Parallel Worlds / Interconnected / Memory Geist
> > > > >
> > > > > [Doepfer_a100] group owner
> > > > >
> > > > > www. parallel - worlds - music. com
> > > > >
> > > > > www. myspace. com/ parallelworldsmusic
> > > > >
> > > > > www. myspace. com/ interconnectedmusic
> > > > >
> > > > > www. myspace. com/ memorygeist
> > > > >
> > > > > www. DiN. org. uk
> > > > >
> > > > > www. musicamaximamagnetica. com
> > > > >
> > > > > www. vu-us. com
> > > > >
> > > > > --- On Wed, 6/2/10, York Luethje <ybl@> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > From: York Luethje <ybl@>
> > > > > Subject: AW: [Doepfer_a100] Newby Seeking Chaos
> > > > > To: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com <Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > <mailto:Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com <Doepfer_a100%2540yahoogroups.com>>
> > >
> > >  > > Date: Wednesday, June 2, 2010, 11:08 AM
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Hi,
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Do you want the sounds to originate with your modular or do you want
> > > to use
> > > > >
> > > > > it more as a processing tool (e.g. for you drum machine)?
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > In the latter case I suggest at least an A-119 to get sounds into
> > > the
> > > > >
> > > > > system.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > In addition, Doepfer and all the other manufacturers offer vast
> > > > >
> > > > > possibilities for wrecking any sound; you really can't go wrong
> > > there. Apart
> > > > >
> > > > > from the various filters take a look at wave shapers (A-116, A-136),
> > > wave
> > > > >
> > > > > multipliers (A-137), the A-188 range of BBDs etc. And that's just
> > > Doepfer.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > If you're not quite sure how to utilise your modular, the basic
> > > system
> > > > >
> > > > > provides a very good starting point. If you later find out that you
> > > have no
> > > > >
> > > > > use for certain modules, you can always sell them and get stuff that
> > > suits
> > > > >
> > > > > you more.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > The likely reason you hear so many old school demos is that the
> > > people that
> > > > >
> > > > > can afford a modular tend to be a bit older and grew up with prog
> > > rock or
> > > > >
> > > > > 80ies synth pop. There's no reason a modular synthesizer can't
> > > produce
> > > > >
> > > > > contemporary sounds, especially now that more and more digital
> > > sounds
> > > > >
> > > > > generators and processors are developed. Check out the new DSP
> > > processor
> > > > >
> > > > > from Doepfer, but also the Tip Top Audio and Harvestman range.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > One word of caution: People tend to go for the 'Sexy' modules, like
> > > filters
> > > > >
> > > > > and add utility modules only as an afterthought. After messing with
> > > your
> > > > >
> > > > > gear for a while you will probably find that you need more VCA's,
> > > envelopes,
> > > > >
> > > > > LFO's etc. The basic system also supplies you with a decent amount
> > > of these.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Hope this helps,
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > York
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > _____
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Von: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com <Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > <mailto:Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com <Doepfer_a100%2540yahoogroups.com>>
> > >
> > >
> > > [mailto:Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com <Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > <mailto:Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com <Doepfer_a100%2540yahoogroups.com>>
> > > ] Im
> > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Auftrag von doof_per
> > > > >
> > > > > Gesendet: Mittwoch, 2. Juni 2010 03:41
> > > > >
> > > > > An: doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com <doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > <mailto:doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com <doepfer_a100%2540yahoogroups.com>>
> > >
> > >  > >
> > > > > Betreff: [Doepfer_a100] Newby Seeking Chaos
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Hi Guys,
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Ive spent hours and hours and hours online checking out modular gear
> > > and
> > > > >
> > > > > (trying) to get my head around it all. For now, ive saved up enough
> > > to get
> > > > >
> > > > > an a100 Basic System2 and im hoping for the best! :)
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > What I wanted to know from anyone:
> > > > >
> > > > > Im only after modular gear for the "alive" sounds ive heard from
> > > other
> > > > >
> > > > > peoples stuff (mainly Buchla TBH..love that sound!..But cant afford
> > > > >
> > > > > one..anyways thats irrelevant)
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Im mainly into really distorted sounds, drum n bass,
> > > mechanical/industrial
> > > > >
> > > > > and love shaping sounds and spending hours on a sound to make it
> > > right and
> > > > >
> > > > > come "alive".
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Am I looking in the right place(Doepfer?) for my sound? Ive heard
> > > allot of
> > > > >
> > > > > the dopefer demos online and I guess the impression I get is rather
> > > really
> > > > >
> > > > > old school, simplistic and minimal/80's (Which I dont mind and love
> > > in
> > > > >
> > > > > certain instances)..But at the same time..Can I do more with it?
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > What would someone recommend I get as a startup, to get this sound
> > > im
> > > > >
> > > > > after..Shall I go for a "sound design/shaping"a100 system..Or for a
> > > "Basic
> > > > >
> > > > > synth system"..I have read soo many links/seen youtube vids etc etc
> > > but
> > > > >
> > > > > really I wanted to hear it from the horses mouth, so to speak before
> > > I make
> > > > >
> > > > > my order.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Does anyone have a "sound rape a100" system they can offer advice
> > > on? lol
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks for reading :)
> > > > >
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Re: Newby Seeking Chaos

2010-06-03 by doof_per

David & Richard - Good thought. I should just prob go for the "Dark Energy" standalone and be able to sell it as a unit when I get "tired" of it in the future as my module epxands, rather than sitting with the Euro Rack module (selling 2nd hand modular units in South Africa will be VERY difficult!)..Had a listen to the Plague Bearer demos..TBH it doesnt (personally speaking) tickle my fancy much..Very "Pedal" sounding if I may say? My current Metasonix TM7 & TM1 can handle those quite easily..But I appreciate the tip mate :)

Damage here we come!

Yeeeeha!!!!!!!



--- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, <david.salter@...> wrote:
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> That looks like a nice set-up.
> 
>  
> 
> Question - do you mean Dark Energy or A111-5?
> 
>  
> 
> The dark Energy has a built in midi interface that provides CV & gate
> out for other modules so I don't think the A190-2 is needed.
> 
>  
> 
> David
> 
>  
> 
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> From: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com]
> On Behalf Of doof_per
> Sent: 03 June 2010 14:44
> To: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [Doepfer_a100] Re: Newby Seeking Chaos
> 
>  
> 
>   
> 
> 
> 
> Wow.
> 
> The response & knowledge being shed is amazing. Thank you, I am very
> grateful (David, York, Nick, Ernst & the others :)
> 
> So im really starting to understand this more and more by the click of
> my mouse :)
> 
> Here is my updated list..I think this should cover it!?
> 
> Other Brands:
> Geiger Counter 
> B:assMaster 
> Metasonix R53 
> 
> Doepfer:
> A100P9 (case) 
> A-143-1 Quad AD Generator 
> A138-b log Mixer 
> A-114 Ring Modulator 
> A132-1 Dual VCA 
> A119 input 
> A137-1 & A137-2 Wave Multipliers, 
> A106 Xtrene Filter
> A-111-5 Dark Energy (Why the hell not!) 
> A190-2 MIDI (For Dark Energy)
> 
> Can I make loud demonic noises yet pllllease?!?
> 
> --- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com
> <mailto:Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com> , "doof_per" <doof_per@>
> wrote:
> >
> > 
> > 
> > Bakkis & Robert:
> > Point noted and taken :)
> > 
> > Thanks guys, I will do just that :)
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > David:
> > 
> > "Add a mixer, a ring modulator and audio sources like VCO's and noise
> if your not just processing external sounds."
> > 
> > - For now, I think i will be just doing external sound.
> > 
> > "Control comes from modulation; LFO's, Envelope generators and VCA's
> and I promise you can never have enough of these."
> > 
> > - Would you not say that my list has that? Could you recommend any
> essential units? Im already on 2100Euros on my current list :/ Maybe I
> should rid of the bitcrusher and some "irrelevant" units (for now)
> > 
> > "It is very important to set a couple of goals you want to achieve,"
> > 
> > - I think my goal for my 1st startup kit, would be to be able to shape
> & distort bass/synth lead sounds mainly.
> > 
> > 
> > --- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com
> <mailto:Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com> , Robbert Jan Rink
> <robbertrink@> wrote:
> > >
> > > And do check if you can afford the P9 case. It is only a small extra
> amount
> > > while it offers more flexibility in the future!
> > > 
> > > Robbert
> > > 
> > > On Wed, Jun 2, 2010 at 1:51 PM, <david.salter@> wrote:
> > > 
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > The list are modules for mashing sound, however you need to
> control as
> > > > well, even for the nastiest noise.
> > > >
> > > > Control comes from modulation; LFO's, Envelope generators and
> VCA's and
> > > > I promise you can never have enough of these. Also sequencer is a
> cool
> > > > choice this can be done with the A160/161 and a mixer combination
> or one
> > > > of the many purpose built sequencers out there. These no only act
> as
> > > > note generators but CV generators, complex oscillators and more.
> > > >
> > > > Add a mixer, a ring modulator and audio sources like VCO's and
> noise if
> > > > your not just processing external sounds.
> > > >
> > > > As I said modular has a habit of getting dangerously consuming.
> > > >
> > > > It is very important to set a couple of goals you want to achieve,
> do
> > > > some research and ask questions and build a small system (in a
> largish
> > > > case) to start with then expand as you develop.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > David
> > > >
> > > > * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
> * * *
> > > > * * *
> > > > David Salter
> > > > Senior Consultant
> > > >
> > > > SSG UKI
> > > >
> > > > Thomson Reuters
> > > >
> > > > O +44 (0)20 7542 2402X 52402
> > > > M 07990562402
> > > >
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> <Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com>[mailto:
> > > > Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com
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> > > > On Behalf Of doof_per
> > > > Sent: 02 June 2010 12:29
> > > >
> > > > To: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com
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> <Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > > Subject: [Doepfer_a100] Re: Newby Seeking Chaos
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Whoa!
> > > >
> > > > This is the quickest and nicest advice ive ever gotten. THANKS
> GUYS!
> > > >
> > > > Thanks a million, everything is being noted & my head is spinning
> a
> > > > little although light is being shed and my ideas are getting
> clearer!
> > > >
> > > > I think for now it would be best to just get the sound sources
> from my
> > > > DAW and use the modular as an effects/shaping/sound design tool. I
> would
> > > > probably go for modular sound source once I get my head around
> which
> > > > units/brand do what exaclty.
> > > >
> > > > Here is my current ("interest") list (as far as I can understand
> from
> > > > reading/hearing the details of each unit specifically on the site)
> > > >
> > > > Others Brands:
> > > > GeigerCounter(FnckYEAH!)
> > > > B:assMaster (Euro Rack)
> > > >
> > > > Doepfer:
> > > > A119input
> > > > A100P6 (case)
> > > > A124Wasp
> > > > A-140 env1eope
> > > > A-115audiodivider
> > > > A-116waveshaper
> > > > A-136distortion
> > > > A-188 BBD
> > > > A187-1
> > > > A189-1 Bit Crusher,
> > > > A137-1 Wave Multipliers
> > > > A106 Xtrene Filter
> > > > A113 Sub Harmonic Gen
> > > >
> > > > Very confused with what these are exactly/if I need them:
> > > > * 1 x Trigger Divider A-160 ?
> > > > * 1 x VC Waveform Processor A-116?
> > > > * 1 x logarithmic VCA A-131?
> > > >
> > > > I do actually own a TM7 Scrotum Smasher & TM1 & llooove them
> dearly :)
> > > >
> > > > So does the above list make sense to have a working/functioning
> box of
> > > > destruction? heehee :)
> > > >
> > > > I dont mind everything being mono as I usually prefer mono
> anyways.
> > > >
> > > > You guys rock!!
> > > >
> > > > --- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com
> <mailto:Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com>
> <Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > > <mailto:Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com
> <Doepfer_a100%2540yahoogroups.com>>
> > > > , "Carci" <francois.maxime@>
> > > >
> > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Hi,
> > > > >
> > > > > If you like Buchla, check the brand "Make noise", you'll
> probably love
> > > > their QMMG / MATHS combo.
> > > > > The most extreme combo I've tried so far, for both processing
> and raw
> > > > sound generation was A136 distortion + A106 Xtreme filter +
> Metasonix
> > > > Scrotum smasher. Sounds go from plain powerful distortion to
> unbearable
> > > > noises and scratches and tube screaming.
> > > > > The smasher is not a module but Metasonix now makes eurorack so
> be
> > > > sure to check their stuff, (especially if you like the sound on
> the last
> > > > NIN albums, it's full of it.)
> > > > >
> > > > > Modules like A188 BBD and A189 Bit crusher can be nasty if you
> like
> > > > digital noise.
> > > > >
> > > > > You look like you already have an idea of what sound you want to
> > > > produce, basic systems are great but if you wanna add more
> modules,
> > > > you'll need more rackspace. So better have a look at which modules
> you
> > > > think you can live without in the basic system and replace them
> with
> > > > more specific modules. Trust me, the time you spend reading every
> module
> > > > user manual will help you a lot when you get your hands on your
> system
> > > > for the first time.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com
> <mailto:Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com>
> <Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > > <mailto:Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com
> <Doepfer_a100%2540yahoogroups.com>>
> > > > , Bakis Sirros
> > > >
> > > > <synth_freak_2000@> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > all of this is true, but also get an A196 PLL module, for
> weird and
> > > > harsh noises.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Bakis Sirros - Parallel Worlds / Interconnected / Memory Geist
> > > > > >
> > > > > > [Doepfer_a100] group owner
> > > > > >
> > > > > > www. parallel - worlds - music. com
> > > > > >
> > > > > > www. myspace. com/ parallelworldsmusic
> > > > > >
> > > > > > www. myspace. com/ interconnectedmusic
> > > > > >
> > > > > > www. myspace. com/ memorygeist
> > > > > >
> > > > > > www. DiN. org. uk
> > > > > >
> > > > > > www. musicamaximamagnetica. com
> > > > > >
> > > > > > www. vu-us. com
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --- On Wed, 6/2/10, York Luethje <ybl@> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > From: York Luethje <ybl@>
> > > > > > Subject: AW: [Doepfer_a100] Newby Seeking Chaos
> > > > > > To: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com
> <mailto:Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com>
> <Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > > <mailto:Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com
> <Doepfer_a100%2540yahoogroups.com>>
> > > >
> > > > > > Date: Wednesday, June 2, 2010, 11:08 AM
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Hi,
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Do you want the sounds to originate with your modular or do
> you want
> > > > to use
> > > > > >
> > > > > > it more as a processing tool (e.g. for you drum machine)?
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > In the latter case I suggest at least an A-119 to get sounds
> into
> > > > the
> > > > > >
> > > > > > system.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > In addition, Doepfer and all the other manufacturers offer
> vast
> > > > > >
> > > > > > possibilities for wrecking any sound; you really can't go
> wrong
> > > > there. Apart
> > > > > >
> > > > > > from the various filters take a look at wave shapers (A-116,
> A-136),
> > > > wave
> > > > > >
> > > > > > multipliers (A-137), the A-188 range of BBDs etc. And that's
> just
> > > > Doepfer.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > If you're not quite sure how to utilise your modular, the
> basic
> > > > system
> > > > > >
> > > > > > provides a very good starting point. If you later find out
> that you
> > > > have no
> > > > > >
> > > > > > use for certain modules, you can always sell them and get
> stuff that
> > > > suits
> > > > > >
> > > > > > you more.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The likely reason you hear so many old school demos is that
> the
> > > > people that
> > > > > >
> > > > > > can afford a modular tend to be a bit older and grew up with
> prog
> > > > rock or
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 80ies synth pop. There's no reason a modular synthesizer can't
> > > > produce
> > > > > >
> > > > > > contemporary sounds, especially now that more and more digital
> > > > sounds
> > > > > >
> > > > > > generators and processors are developed. Check out the new DSP
> > > > processor
> > > > > >
> > > > > > from Doepfer, but also the Tip Top Audio and Harvestman range.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > One word of caution: People tend to go for the 'Sexy' modules,
> like
> > > > filters
> > > > > >
> > > > > > and add utility modules only as an afterthought. After messing
> with
> > > > your
> > > > > >
> > > > > > gear for a while you will probably find that you need more
> VCA's,
> > > > envelopes,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > LFO's etc. The basic system also supplies you with a decent
> amount
> > > > of these.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Hope this helps,
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > York
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > _____
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Von: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com
> <mailto:Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com>
> <Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > > <mailto:Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com
> <Doepfer_a100%2540yahoogroups.com>>
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > [mailto:Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com
> <mailto:Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com>
> <Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > > <mailto:Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com
> <Doepfer_a100%2540yahoogroups.com>>
> > > > ] Im
> > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Auftrag von doof_per
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Gesendet: Mittwoch, 2. Juni 2010 03:41
> > > > > >
> > > > > > An: doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com
> <mailto:doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com>
> <doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > > <mailto:doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com
> <doepfer_a100%2540yahoogroups.com>>
> > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Betreff: [Doepfer_a100] Newby Seeking Chaos
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Hi Guys,
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Ive spent hours and hours and hours online checking out
> modular gear
> > > > and
> > > > > >
> > > > > > (trying) to get my head around it all. For now, ive saved up
> enough
> > > > to get
> > > > > >
> > > > > > an a100 Basic System2 and im hoping for the best! :)
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > What I wanted to know from anyone:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Im only after modular gear for the "alive" sounds ive heard
> from
> > > > other
> > > > > >
> > > > > > peoples stuff (mainly Buchla TBH..love that sound!..But cant
> afford
> > > > > >
> > > > > > one..anyways thats irrelevant)
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Im mainly into really distorted sounds, drum n bass,
> > > > mechanical/industrial
> > > > > >
> > > > > > and love shaping sounds and spending hours on a sound to make
> it
> > > > right and
> > > > > >
> > > > > > come "alive".
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Am I looking in the right place(Doepfer?) for my sound? Ive
> heard
> > > > allot of
> > > > > >
> > > > > > the dopefer demos online and I guess the impression I get is
> rather
> > > > really
> > > > > >
> > > > > > old school, simplistic and minimal/80's (Which I dont mind and
> love
> > > > in
> > > > > >
> > > > > > certain instances)..But at the same time..Can I do more with
> it?
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > What would someone recommend I get as a startup, to get this
> sound
> > > > im
> > > > > >
> > > > > > after..Shall I go for a "sound design/shaping"a100 system..Or
> for a
> > > > "Basic
> > > > > >
> > > > > > synth system"..I have read soo many links/seen youtube vids
> etc etc
> > > > but
> > > > > >
> > > > > > really I wanted to hear it from the horses mouth, so to speak
> before
> > > > I make
> > > > > >
> > > > > > my order.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Does anyone have a "sound rape a100" system they can offer
> advice
> > > > on? lol
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thanks for reading :)
> > > > > >
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Re: Newby Seeking Chaos

2010-06-03 by doof_per

P.S. Richard:

Your quite right, Point taken mate..Think ill just stick with the 137-2 :)



--- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, RICHARD HORSMAN <richyho@...> wrote:
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>
> The WMD Geiger Counter will definitely make your box spit sick sick evil! Have you also considered the Plague Bearer? Fairly unpredictable, but a very capable mangler. The Xtreme filter is nice and nasty - you'll like that. Are 137-1 and 137-2 both necessary? Why do you want the A-111-5 in this box? You may well get more fun from individual modules, and when the time comes for replacing/upgrading, you don't have to throw the whole lot out just to upgade, for example, your VCO.
> 
> Exciting times....
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ________________________________
> From: doof_per <doof_per@...>
> To: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Thursday, 3 June, 2010 14:43:51
> Subject: [Doepfer_a100] Re: Newby Seeking Chaos
> 
> Â  
> 
> 
> Wow.
> 
> The response & knowledge being shed is amazing. Thank you, I am very grateful (David, York, Nick, Ernst & the others :)
> 
> So im really starting to understand this more and more by the click of my mouse :)
> 
> Here is my updated list..I think this should cover it!?
> 
> Other Brands:
> Geiger Counter 
> B:assMaster 
> Metasonix R53 
> 
> Doepfer:
> A100P9 (case) 
> A-143-1 Quad AD Generator 
> A138-b log Mixer 
> A-114 Ring Modulator 
> A132-1 Dual VCA 
> A119 input 
> A137-1 & A137-2 Wave Multipliers, 
> A106 Xtrene Filter
> A-111-5 Dark Energy (Why the hell not!) 
> A190-2 MIDI (For Dark Energy)
> 
> Can I make loud demonic noises yet pllllease?!?
> 
> --- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, "doof_per" <doof_per@> wrote:
> >
> > 
> > 
> > Bakkis & Robert:
> > Point noted and taken :)
> > 
> > Thanks guys, I will do just that :)
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > David:
> > 
> > "Add a mixer, a ring modulator and audio sources like VCO's and noise if your not just processing external sounds."
> > 
> > - For now, I think i will be just doing external sound.
> > 
> > "Control comes from modulation; LFO's, Envelope generators and VCA's and I promise you can never have enough of these."
> > 
> > - Would you not say that my list has that? Could you recommend any essential units? Im already on 2100Euros on my current list :/ Maybe I should rid of the bitcrusher and some "irrelevant" units (for now)
> > 
> > "It is very important to set a couple of goals you want to achieve,"
> > 
> > - I think my goal for my 1st startup kit, would be to be able to shape & distort bass/synth lead sounds mainly.
> > 
> > 
> > --- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, Robbert Jan Rink <robbertrink@> wrote:
> > >
> > > And do check if you can afford the P9 case. It is only a small extra amount
> > > while it offers more flexibility in the future!
> > > 
> > > Robbert
> > > 
> > > On Wed, Jun 2, 2010 at 1:51 PM, <david.salter@> wrote:
> > > 
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > The list are modules for mashing sound, however you need to control as
> > > > well, even for the nastiest noise.
> > > >
> > > > Control comes from modulation; LFO's, Envelope generators and VCA's and
> > > > I promise you can never have enough of these. Also sequencer is a cool
> > > > choice this can be done with the A160/161 and a mixer combination or one
> > > > of the many purpose built sequencers out there. These no only act as
> > > > note generators but CV generators, complex oscillators and more.
> > > >
> > > > Add a mixer, a ring modulator and audio sources like VCO's and noise if
> > > > your not just processing external sounds.
> > > >
> > > > As I said modular has a habit of getting dangerously consuming.
> > > >
> > > > It is very important to set a couple of goals you want to achieve, do
> > > > some research and ask questions and build a small system (in a largish
> > > > case) to start with then expand as you develop.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > David
> > > >
> > > > * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
> > > > * * *
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> > > > ________________________________
> > > >
> > > > From: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com <Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com>[mailto:
> > > > Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com <Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com>]
> > > > On Behalf Of doof_per
> > > > Sent: 02 June 2010 12:29
> > > >
> > > > To: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com <Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > > Subject: [Doepfer_a100] Re: Newby Seeking Chaos
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Whoa!
> > > >
> > > > This is the quickest and nicest advice ive ever gotten. THANKS GUYS!
> > > >
> > > > Thanks a million, everything is being noted & my head is spinning a
> > > > little although light is being shed and my ideas are getting clearer!
> > > >
> > > > I think for now it would be best to just get the sound sources from my
> > > > DAW and use the modular as an effects/shaping/sound design tool. I would
> > > > probably go for modular sound source once I get my head around which
> > > > units/brand do what exaclty.
> > > >
> > > > Here is my current ("interest") list (as far as I can understand from
> > > > reading/hearing the details of each unit specifically on the site)
> > > >
> > > > Others Brands:
> > > > GeigerCounter(FnckYEAH!)
> > > > B:assMaster (Euro Rack)
> > > >
> > > > Doepfer:
> > > > A119input
> > > > A100P6 (case)
> > > > A124Wasp
> > > > A-140 env1eope
> > > > A-115audiodivider
> > > > A-116waveshaper
> > > > A-136distortion
> > > > A-188 BBD
> > > > A187-1
> > > > A189-1 Bit Crusher,
> > > > A137-1 Wave Multipliers
> > > > A106 Xtrene Filter
> > > > A113 Sub Harmonic Gen
> > > >
> > > > Very confused with what these are exactly/if I need them:
> > > > * 1 x Trigger Divider A-160 ?
> > > > * 1 x VC Waveform Processor A-116?
> > > > * 1 x logarithmic VCA A-131?
> > > >
> > > > I do actually own a TM7 Scrotum Smasher & TM1 & llooove them dearly :)
> > > >
> > > > So does the above list make sense to have a working/functioning box of
> > > > destruction? heehee :)
> > > >
> > > > I dont mind everything being mono as I usually prefer mono anyways.
> > > >
> > > > You guys rock!!
> > > >
> > > > --- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com <Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > > <mailto:Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com <Doepfer_a100%2540yahoogroups.com>>
> > > > , "Carci" <francois.maxime@>
> > > >
> > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Hi,
> > > > >
> > > > > If you like Buchla, check the brand "Make noise", you'll probably love
> > > > their QMMG / MATHS combo.
> > > > > The most extreme combo I've tried so far, for both processing and raw
> > > > sound generation was A136 distortion + A106 Xtreme filter + Metasonix
> > > > Scrotum smasher. Sounds go from plain powerful distortion to unbearable
> > > > noises and scratches and tube screaming.
> > > > > The smasher is not a module but Metasonix now makes eurorack so be
> > > > sure to check their stuff, (especially if you like the sound on the last
> > > > NIN albums, it's full of it.)
> > > > >
> > > > > Modules like A188 BBD and A189 Bit crusher can be nasty if you like
> > > > digital noise.
> > > > >
> > > > > You look like you already have an idea of what sound you want to
> > > > produce, basic systems are great but if you wanna add more modules,
> > > > you'll need more rackspace. So better have a look at which modules you
> > > > think you can live without in the basic system and replace them with
> > > > more specific modules. Trust me, the time you spend reading every module
> > > > user manual will help you a lot when you get your hands on your system
> > > > for the first time.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com <Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > > <mailto:Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com <Doepfer_a100%2540yahoogroups.com>>
> > > > , Bakis Sirros
> > > >
> > > > <synth_freak_2000@> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > all of this is true, but also get an A196 PLL module, for weird and
> > > > harsh noises.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Bakis Sirros - Parallel Worlds / Interconnected / Memory Geist
> > > > > >
> > > > > > [Doepfer_a100] group owner
> > > > > >
> > > > > > www. parallel - worlds - music. com
> > > > > >
> > > > > > www. myspace. com/ parallelworldsmusic
> > > > > >
> > > > > > www. myspace. com/ interconnectedmusic
> > > > > >
> > > > > > www. myspace. com/ memorygeist
> > > > > >
> > > > > > www. DiN. org. uk
> > > > > >
> > > > > > www. musicamaximamagnetica. com
> > > > > >
> > > > > > www. vu-us. com
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --- On Wed, 6/2/10, York Luethje <ybl@> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > From: York Luethje <ybl@>
> > > > > > Subject: AW: [Doepfer_a100] Newby Seeking Chaos
> > > > > > To: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com <Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > > <mailto:Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com <Doepfer_a100%2540yahoogroups.com>>
> > > >
> > > > > > Date: Wednesday, June 2, 2010, 11:08 AM
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Hi,
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Do you want the sounds to originate with your modular or do you want
> > > > to use
> > > > > >
> > > > > > it more as a processing tool (e.g. for you drum machine)?
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > In the latter case I suggest at least an A-119 to get sounds into
> > > > the
> > > > > >
> > > > > > system.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > In addition, Doepfer and all the other manufacturers offer vast
> > > > > >
> > > > > > possibilities for wrecking any sound; you really can't go wrong
> > > > there. Apart
> > > > > >
> > > > > > from the various filters take a look at wave shapers (A-116, A-136),
> > > > wave
> > > > > >
> > > > > > multipliers (A-137), the A-188 range of BBDs etc. And that's just
> > > > Doepfer.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > If you're not quite sure how to utilise your modular, the basic
> > > > system
> > > > > >
> > > > > > provides a very good starting point. If you later find out that you
> > > > have no
> > > > > >
> > > > > > use for certain modules, you can always sell them and get stuff that
> > > > suits
> > > > > >
> > > > > > you more.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The likely reason you hear so many old school demos is that the
> > > > people that
> > > > > >
> > > > > > can afford a modular tend to be a bit older and grew up with prog
> > > > rock or
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 80ies synth pop. There's no reason a modular synthesizer can't
> > > > produce
> > > > > >
> > > > > > contemporary sounds, especially now that more and more digital
> > > > sounds
> > > > > >
> > > > > > generators and processors are developed. Check out the new DSP
> > > > processor
> > > > > >
> > > > > > from Doepfer, but also the Tip Top Audio and Harvestman range.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > One word of caution: People tend to go for the 'Sexy' modules, like
> > > > filters
> > > > > >
> > > > > > and add utility modules only as an afterthought. After messing with
> > > > your
> > > > > >
> > > > > > gear for a while you will probably find that you need more VCA's,
> > > > envelopes,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > LFO's etc. The basic system also supplies you with a decent amount
> > > > of these.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Hope this helps,
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > York
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > _____
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Von: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com <Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > > <mailto:Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com <Doepfer_a100%2540yahoogroups.com>>
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > [mailto:Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com <Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > > <mailto:Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com <Doepfer_a100%2540yahoogroups.com>>
> > > > ] Im
> > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Auftrag von doof_per
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Gesendet: Mittwoch, 2. Juni 2010 03:41
> > > > > >
> > > > > > An: doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com <doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > > <mailto:doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com <doepfer_a100%2540yahoogroups.com>>
> > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Betreff: [Doepfer_a100] Newby Seeking Chaos
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Hi Guys,
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Ive spent hours and hours and hours online checking out modular gear
> > > > and
> > > > > >
> > > > > > (trying) to get my head around it all. For now, ive saved up enough
> > > > to get
> > > > > >
> > > > > > an a100 Basic System2 and im hoping for the best! :)
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > What I wanted to know from anyone:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Im only after modular gear for the "alive" sounds ive heard from
> > > > other
> > > > > >
> > > > > > peoples stuff (mainly Buchla TBH..love that sound!..But cant afford
> > > > > >
> > > > > > one..anyways thats irrelevant)
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Im mainly into really distorted sounds, drum n bass,
> > > > mechanical/industrial
> > > > > >
> > > > > > and love shaping sounds and spending hours on a sound to make it
> > > > right and
> > > > > >
> > > > > > come "alive".
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Am I looking in the right place(Doepfer?) for my sound? Ive heard
> > > > allot of
> > > > > >
> > > > > > the dopefer demos online and I guess the impression I get is rather
> > > > really
> > > > > >
> > > > > > old school, simplistic and minimal/80's (Which I dont mind and love
> > > > in
> > > > > >
> > > > > > certain instances)..But at the same time..Can I do more with it?
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > What would someone recommend I get as a startup, to get this sound
> > > > im
> > > > > >
> > > > > > after..Shall I go for a "sound design/shaping"a100 system..Or for a
> > > > "Basic
> > > > > >
> > > > > > synth system"..I have read soo many links/seen youtube vids etc etc
> > > > but
> > > > > >
> > > > > > really I wanted to hear it from the horses mouth, so to speak before
> > > > I make
> > > > > >
> > > > > > my order.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Does anyone have a "sound rape a100" system they can offer advice
> > > > on? lol
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thanks for reading :)
> > > > > >
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RE: [Doepfer_a100] Re: Newby Seeking Chaos

2010-06-03 by david.salter@thomsonreuters.com

That looks like a nice set-up.

 

Question - do you mean Dark Energy or A111-5?

 

The dark Energy has a built in midi interface that provides CV & gate
out for other modules so I don't think the A190-2 is needed.

 

David

 

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From: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf Of doof_per
Sent: 03 June 2010 14:44
To: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Doepfer_a100] Re: Newby Seeking Chaos

 

  



Wow.

The response & knowledge being shed is amazing. Thank you, I am very
grateful (David, York, Nick, Ernst & the others :)

So im really starting to understand this more and more by the click of
my mouse :)

Here is my updated list..I think this should cover it!?

Other Brands:
Geiger Counter 
B:assMaster 
Metasonix R53 

Doepfer:
A100P9 (case) 
A-143-1 Quad AD Generator 
A138-b log Mixer 
A-114 Ring Modulator 
A132-1 Dual VCA 
A119 input 
A137-1 & A137-2 Wave Multipliers, 
A106 Xtrene Filter
A-111-5 Dark Energy (Why the hell not!) 
A190-2 MIDI (For Dark Energy)

Can I make loud demonic noises yet pllllease?!?

--- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com
<mailto:Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com> , "doof_per" <doof_per@...>
wrote:
>
> 
> 
> Bakkis & Robert:
> Point noted and taken :)
> 
> Thanks guys, I will do just that :)
> 
> 
> 
> David:
> 
> "Add a mixer, a ring modulator and audio sources like VCO's and noise
if your not just processing external sounds."
> 
> - For now, I think i will be just doing external sound.
> 
> "Control comes from modulation; LFO's, Envelope generators and VCA's
and I promise you can never have enough of these."
> 
> - Would you not say that my list has that? Could you recommend any
essential units? Im already on 2100Euros on my current list :/ Maybe I
should rid of the bitcrusher and some "irrelevant" units (for now)
> 
> "It is very important to set a couple of goals you want to achieve,"
> 
> - I think my goal for my 1st startup kit, would be to be able to shape
& distort bass/synth lead sounds mainly.
> 
> 
> --- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com
<mailto:Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com> , Robbert Jan Rink
<robbertrink@> wrote:
> >
> > And do check if you can afford the P9 case. It is only a small extra
amount
> > while it offers more flexibility in the future!
> > 
> > Robbert
> > 
> > On Wed, Jun 2, 2010 at 1:51 PM, <david.salter@> wrote:
> > 
> > >
> > >
> > > The list are modules for mashing sound, however you need to
control as
> > > well, even for the nastiest noise.
> > >
> > > Control comes from modulation; LFO's, Envelope generators and
VCA's and
> > > I promise you can never have enough of these. Also sequencer is a
cool
> > > choice this can be done with the A160/161 and a mixer combination
or one
> > > of the many purpose built sequencers out there. These no only act
as
> > > note generators but CV generators, complex oscillators and more.
> > >
> > > Add a mixer, a ring modulator and audio sources like VCO's and
noise if
> > > your not just processing external sounds.
> > >
> > > As I said modular has a habit of getting dangerously consuming.
> > >
> > > It is very important to set a couple of goals you want to achieve,
do
> > > some research and ask questions and build a small system (in a
largish
> > > case) to start with then expand as you develop.
> > >
> > >
> > > David
> > >
> > > * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
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> > > From: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com
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<Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com>[mailto:
> > > Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com
<mailto:Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com>
<Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com>]
> > > On Behalf Of doof_per
> > > Sent: 02 June 2010 12:29
> > >
> > > To: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com
<mailto:Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com>
<Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > Subject: [Doepfer_a100] Re: Newby Seeking Chaos
> > >
> > >
> > > Whoa!
> > >
> > > This is the quickest and nicest advice ive ever gotten. THANKS
GUYS!
> > >
> > > Thanks a million, everything is being noted & my head is spinning
a
> > > little although light is being shed and my ideas are getting
clearer!
> > >
> > > I think for now it would be best to just get the sound sources
from my
> > > DAW and use the modular as an effects/shaping/sound design tool. I
would
> > > probably go for modular sound source once I get my head around
which
> > > units/brand do what exaclty.
> > >
> > > Here is my current ("interest") list (as far as I can understand
from
> > > reading/hearing the details of each unit specifically on the site)
> > >
> > > Others Brands:
> > > GeigerCounter(FnckYEAH!)
> > > B:assMaster (Euro Rack)
> > >
> > > Doepfer:
> > > A119input
> > > A100P6 (case)
> > > A124Wasp
> > > A-140 env1eope
> > > A-115audiodivider
> > > A-116waveshaper
> > > A-136distortion
> > > A-188 BBD
> > > A187-1
> > > A189-1 Bit Crusher,
> > > A137-1 Wave Multipliers
> > > A106 Xtrene Filter
> > > A113 Sub Harmonic Gen
> > >
> > > Very confused with what these are exactly/if I need them:
> > > * 1 x Trigger Divider A-160 ?
> > > * 1 x VC Waveform Processor A-116?
> > > * 1 x logarithmic VCA A-131?
> > >
> > > I do actually own a TM7 Scrotum Smasher & TM1 & llooove them
dearly :)
> > >
> > > So does the above list make sense to have a working/functioning
box of
> > > destruction? heehee :)
> > >
> > > I dont mind everything being mono as I usually prefer mono
anyways.
> > >
> > > You guys rock!!
> > >
> > > --- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com
<mailto:Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com>
<Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > <mailto:Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com
<Doepfer_a100%2540yahoogroups.com>>
> > > , "Carci" <francois.maxime@>
> > >
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Hi,
> > > >
> > > > If you like Buchla, check the brand "Make noise", you'll
probably love
> > > their QMMG / MATHS combo.
> > > > The most extreme combo I've tried so far, for both processing
and raw
> > > sound generation was A136 distortion + A106 Xtreme filter +
Metasonix
> > > Scrotum smasher. Sounds go from plain powerful distortion to
unbearable
> > > noises and scratches and tube screaming.
> > > > The smasher is not a module but Metasonix now makes eurorack so
be
> > > sure to check their stuff, (especially if you like the sound on
the last
> > > NIN albums, it's full of it.)
> > > >
> > > > Modules like A188 BBD and A189 Bit crusher can be nasty if you
like
> > > digital noise.
> > > >
> > > > You look like you already have an idea of what sound you want to
> > > produce, basic systems are great but if you wanna add more
modules,
> > > you'll need more rackspace. So better have a look at which modules
you
> > > think you can live without in the basic system and replace them
with
> > > more specific modules. Trust me, the time you spend reading every
module
> > > user manual will help you a lot when you get your hands on your
system
> > > for the first time.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com
<mailto:Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com>
<Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > <mailto:Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com
<Doepfer_a100%2540yahoogroups.com>>
> > > , Bakis Sirros
> > >
> > > <synth_freak_2000@> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > all of this is true, but also get an A196 PLL module, for
weird and
> > > harsh noises.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Bakis Sirros - Parallel Worlds / Interconnected / Memory Geist
> > > > >
> > > > > [Doepfer_a100] group owner
> > > > >
> > > > > www. parallel - worlds - music. com
> > > > >
> > > > > www. myspace. com/ parallelworldsmusic
> > > > >
> > > > > www. myspace. com/ interconnectedmusic
> > > > >
> > > > > www. myspace. com/ memorygeist
> > > > >
> > > > > www. DiN. org. uk
> > > > >
> > > > > www. musicamaximamagnetica. com
> > > > >
> > > > > www. vu-us. com
> > > > >
> > > > > --- On Wed, 6/2/10, York Luethje <ybl@> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > From: York Luethje <ybl@>
> > > > > Subject: AW: [Doepfer_a100] Newby Seeking Chaos
> > > > > To: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com
<mailto:Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com>
<Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > <mailto:Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com
<Doepfer_a100%2540yahoogroups.com>>
> > >
> > > > > Date: Wednesday, June 2, 2010, 11:08 AM
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Hi,
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Do you want the sounds to originate with your modular or do
you want
> > > to use
> > > > >
> > > > > it more as a processing tool (e.g. for you drum machine)?
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > In the latter case I suggest at least an A-119 to get sounds
into
> > > the
> > > > >
> > > > > system.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > In addition, Doepfer and all the other manufacturers offer
vast
> > > > >
> > > > > possibilities for wrecking any sound; you really can't go
wrong
> > > there. Apart
> > > > >
> > > > > from the various filters take a look at wave shapers (A-116,
A-136),
> > > wave
> > > > >
> > > > > multipliers (A-137), the A-188 range of BBDs etc. And that's
just
> > > Doepfer.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > If you're not quite sure how to utilise your modular, the
basic
> > > system
> > > > >
> > > > > provides a very good starting point. If you later find out
that you
> > > have no
> > > > >
> > > > > use for certain modules, you can always sell them and get
stuff that
> > > suits
> > > > >
> > > > > you more.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > The likely reason you hear so many old school demos is that
the
> > > people that
> > > > >
> > > > > can afford a modular tend to be a bit older and grew up with
prog
> > > rock or
> > > > >
> > > > > 80ies synth pop. There's no reason a modular synthesizer can't
> > > produce
> > > > >
> > > > > contemporary sounds, especially now that more and more digital
> > > sounds
> > > > >
> > > > > generators and processors are developed. Check out the new DSP
> > > processor
> > > > >
> > > > > from Doepfer, but also the Tip Top Audio and Harvestman range.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > One word of caution: People tend to go for the 'Sexy' modules,
like
> > > filters
> > > > >
> > > > > and add utility modules only as an afterthought. After messing
with
> > > your
> > > > >
> > > > > gear for a while you will probably find that you need more
VCA's,
> > > envelopes,
> > > > >
> > > > > LFO's etc. The basic system also supplies you with a decent
amount
> > > of these.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Hope this helps,
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > York
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > _____
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Von: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com
<mailto:Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com>
<Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > <mailto:Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com
<Doepfer_a100%2540yahoogroups.com>>
> > >
> > >
> > > [mailto:Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com
<mailto:Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com>
<Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > <mailto:Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com
<Doepfer_a100%2540yahoogroups.com>>
> > > ] Im
> > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Auftrag von doof_per
> > > > >
> > > > > Gesendet: Mittwoch, 2. Juni 2010 03:41
> > > > >
> > > > > An: doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com
<mailto:doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com>
<doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > <mailto:doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com
<doepfer_a100%2540yahoogroups.com>>
> > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Betreff: [Doepfer_a100] Newby Seeking Chaos
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Hi Guys,
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Ive spent hours and hours and hours online checking out
modular gear
> > > and
> > > > >
> > > > > (trying) to get my head around it all. For now, ive saved up
enough
> > > to get
> > > > >
> > > > > an a100 Basic System2 and im hoping for the best! :)
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > What I wanted to know from anyone:
> > > > >
> > > > > Im only after modular gear for the "alive" sounds ive heard
from
> > > other
> > > > >
> > > > > peoples stuff (mainly Buchla TBH..love that sound!..But cant
afford
> > > > >
> > > > > one..anyways thats irrelevant)
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Im mainly into really distorted sounds, drum n bass,
> > > mechanical/industrial
> > > > >
> > > > > and love shaping sounds and spending hours on a sound to make
it
> > > right and
> > > > >
> > > > > come "alive".
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Am I looking in the right place(Doepfer?) for my sound? Ive
heard
> > > allot of
> > > > >
> > > > > the dopefer demos online and I guess the impression I get is
rather
> > > really
> > > > >
> > > > > old school, simplistic and minimal/80's (Which I dont mind and
love
> > > in
> > > > >
> > > > > certain instances)..But at the same time..Can I do more with
it?
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > What would someone recommend I get as a startup, to get this
sound
> > > im
> > > > >
> > > > > after..Shall I go for a "sound design/shaping"a100 system..Or
for a
> > > "Basic
> > > > >
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etc etc
> > > but
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before
> > > I make
> > > > >
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Re: [Doepfer_a100] Re: Newby Seeking Chaos

2010-06-03 by RICHARD HORSMAN

The WMD Geiger Counter will definitely make your box spit sick sick evil! Have you also considered the Plague Bearer? Fairly unpredictable, but a very capable mangler. The Xtreme filter is nice and nasty - you'll like that. Are 137-1 and 137-2 both necessary? Why do you want the A-111-5 in this box? You may well get more fun from individual modules, and when the time comes for replacing/upgrading, you don't have to throw the whole lot out just to upgade, for example, your VCO.

Exciting times....




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Sent: Thursday, 3 June, 2010 14:43:51
Subject: [Doepfer_a100] Re: Newby Seeking Chaos

  


Wow.

The response & knowledge being shed is amazing. Thank you, I am very grateful (David, York, Nick, Ernst & the others :)

So im really starting to understand this more and more by the click of my mouse :)

Here is my updated list..I think this should cover it!?

Other Brands:
Geiger Counter 
B:assMaster 
Metasonix R53 

Doepfer:
A100P9 (case) 
A-143-1 Quad AD Generator 
A138-b log Mixer 
A-114 Ring Modulator 
A132-1 Dual VCA 
A119 input 
A137-1 & A137-2 Wave Multipliers, 
A106 Xtrene Filter
A-111-5 Dark Energy (Why the hell not!) 
A190-2 MIDI (For Dark Energy)

Can I make loud demonic noises yet pllllease?!?

--- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, "doof_per" <doof_per@...> wrote:
>
> 
> 
> Bakkis & Robert:
> Point noted and taken :)
> 
> Thanks guys, I will do just that :)
> 
> 
> 
> David:
> 
> "Add a mixer, a ring modulator and audio sources like VCO's and noise if your not just processing external sounds."
> 
> - For now, I think i will be just doing external sound.
> 
> "Control comes from modulation; LFO's, Envelope generators and VCA's and I promise you can never have enough of these."
> 
> - Would you not say that my list has that? Could you recommend any essential units? Im already on 2100Euros on my current list :/ Maybe I should rid of the bitcrusher and some "irrelevant" units (for now)
> 
> "It is very important to set a couple of goals you want to achieve,"
> 
> - I think my goal for my 1st startup kit, would be to be able to shape & distort bass/synth lead sounds mainly.
> 
> 
> --- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, Robbert Jan Rink <robbertrink@> wrote:
> >
> > And do check if you can afford the P9 case. It is only a small extra amount
> > while it offers more flexibility in the future!
> > 
> > Robbert
> > 
> > On Wed, Jun 2, 2010 at 1:51 PM, <david.salter@> wrote:
> > 
> > >
> > >
> > > The list are modules for mashing sound, however you need to control as
> > > well, even for the nastiest noise.
> > >
> > > Control comes from modulation; LFO's, Envelope generators and VCA's and
> > > I promise you can never have enough of these. Also sequencer is a cool
> > > choice this can be done with the A160/161 and a mixer combination or one
> > > of the many purpose built sequencers out there. These no only act as
> > > note generators but CV generators, complex oscillators and more.
> > >
> > > Add a mixer, a ring modulator and audio sources like VCO's and noise if
> > > your not just processing external sounds.
> > >
> > > As I said modular has a habit of getting dangerously consuming.
> > >
> > > It is very important to set a couple of goals you want to achieve, do
> > > some research and ask questions and build a small system (in a largish
> > > case) to start with then expand as you develop.
> > >
> > >
> > > David
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> > > On Behalf Of doof_per
> > > Sent: 02 June 2010 12:29
> > >
> > > To: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com <Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > Subject: [Doepfer_a100] Re: Newby Seeking Chaos
> > >
> > >
> > > Whoa!
> > >
> > > This is the quickest and nicest advice ive ever gotten. THANKS GUYS!
> > >
> > > Thanks a million, everything is being noted & my head is spinning a
> > > little although light is being shed and my ideas are getting clearer!
> > >
> > > I think for now it would be best to just get the sound sources from my
> > > DAW and use the modular as an effects/shaping/sound design tool. I would
> > > probably go for modular sound source once I get my head around which
> > > units/brand do what exaclty.
> > >
> > > Here is my current ("interest") list (as far as I can understand from
> > > reading/hearing the details of each unit specifically on the site)
> > >
> > > Others Brands:
> > > GeigerCounter(FnckYEAH!)
> > > B:assMaster (Euro Rack)
> > >
> > > Doepfer:
> > > A119input
> > > A100P6 (case)
> > > A124Wasp
> > > A-140 env1eope
> > > A-115audiodivider
> > > A-116waveshaper
> > > A-136distortion
> > > A-188 BBD
> > > A187-1
> > > A189-1 Bit Crusher,
> > > A137-1 Wave Multipliers
> > > A106 Xtrene Filter
> > > A113 Sub Harmonic Gen
> > >
> > > Very confused with what these are exactly/if I need them:
> > > * 1 x Trigger Divider A-160 ?
> > > * 1 x VC Waveform Processor A-116?
> > > * 1 x logarithmic VCA A-131?
> > >
> > > I do actually own a TM7 Scrotum Smasher & TM1 & llooove them dearly :)
> > >
> > > So does the above list make sense to have a working/functioning box of
> > > destruction? heehee :)
> > >
> > > I dont mind everything being mono as I usually prefer mono anyways.
> > >
> > > You guys rock!!
> > >
> > > --- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com <Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > <mailto:Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com <Doepfer_a100%2540yahoogroups.com>>
> > > , "Carci" <francois.maxime@>
> > >
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Hi,
> > > >
> > > > If you like Buchla, check the brand "Make noise", you'll probably love
> > > their QMMG / MATHS combo.
> > > > The most extreme combo I've tried so far, for both processing and raw
> > > sound generation was A136 distortion + A106 Xtreme filter + Metasonix
> > > Scrotum smasher. Sounds go from plain powerful distortion to unbearable
> > > noises and scratches and tube screaming.
> > > > The smasher is not a module but Metasonix now makes eurorack so be
> > > sure to check their stuff, (especially if you like the sound on the last
> > > NIN albums, it's full of it.)
> > > >
> > > > Modules like A188 BBD and A189 Bit crusher can be nasty if you like
> > > digital noise.
> > > >
> > > > You look like you already have an idea of what sound you want to
> > > produce, basic systems are great but if you wanna add more modules,
> > > you'll need more rackspace. So better have a look at which modules you
> > > think you can live without in the basic system and replace them with
> > > more specific modules. Trust me, the time you spend reading every module
> > > user manual will help you a lot when you get your hands on your system
> > > for the first time.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com <Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > <mailto:Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com <Doepfer_a100%2540yahoogroups.com>>
> > > , Bakis Sirros
> > >
> > > <synth_freak_2000@> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > all of this is true, but also get an A196 PLL module, for weird and
> > > harsh noises.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Bakis Sirros - Parallel Worlds / Interconnected / Memory Geist
> > > > >
> > > > > [Doepfer_a100] group owner
> > > > >
> > > > > www. parallel - worlds - music. com
> > > > >
> > > > > www. myspace. com/ parallelworldsmusic
> > > > >
> > > > > www. myspace. com/ interconnectedmusic
> > > > >
> > > > > www. myspace. com/ memorygeist
> > > > >
> > > > > www. DiN. org. uk
> > > > >
> > > > > www. musicamaximamagnetica. com
> > > > >
> > > > > www. vu-us. com
> > > > >
> > > > > --- On Wed, 6/2/10, York Luethje <ybl@> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > From: York Luethje <ybl@>
> > > > > Subject: AW: [Doepfer_a100] Newby Seeking Chaos
> > > > > To: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com <Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > <mailto:Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com <Doepfer_a100%2540yahoogroups.com>>
> > >
> > > > > Date: Wednesday, June 2, 2010, 11:08 AM
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Hi,
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Do you want the sounds to originate with your modular or do you want
> > > to use
> > > > >
> > > > > it more as a processing tool (e.g. for you drum machine)?
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > In the latter case I suggest at least an A-119 to get sounds into
> > > the
> > > > >
> > > > > system.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > In addition, Doepfer and all the other manufacturers offer vast
> > > > >
> > > > > possibilities for wrecking any sound; you really can't go wrong
> > > there. Apart
> > > > >
> > > > > from the various filters take a look at wave shapers (A-116, A-136),
> > > wave
> > > > >
> > > > > multipliers (A-137), the A-188 range of BBDs etc. And that's just
> > > Doepfer.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > If you're not quite sure how to utilise your modular, the basic
> > > system
> > > > >
> > > > > provides a very good starting point. If you later find out that you
> > > have no
> > > > >
> > > > > use for certain modules, you can always sell them and get stuff that
> > > suits
> > > > >
> > > > > you more.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > The likely reason you hear so many old school demos is that the
> > > people that
> > > > >
> > > > > can afford a modular tend to be a bit older and grew up with prog
> > > rock or
> > > > >
> > > > > 80ies synth pop. There's no reason a modular synthesizer can't
> > > produce
> > > > >
> > > > > contemporary sounds, especially now that more and more digital
> > > sounds
> > > > >
> > > > > generators and processors are developed. Check out the new DSP
> > > processor
> > > > >
> > > > > from Doepfer, but also the Tip Top Audio and Harvestman range.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > One word of caution: People tend to go for the 'Sexy' modules, like
> > > filters
> > > > >
> > > > > and add utility modules only as an afterthought. After messing with
> > > your
> > > > >
> > > > > gear for a while you will probably find that you need more VCA's,
> > > envelopes,
> > > > >
> > > > > LFO's etc. The basic system also supplies you with a decent amount
> > > of these.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Hope this helps,
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > York
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > _____
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Von: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com <Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > <mailto:Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com <Doepfer_a100%2540yahoogroups.com>>
> > >
> > >
> > > [mailto:Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com <Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > <mailto:Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com <Doepfer_a100%2540yahoogroups.com>>
> > > ] Im
> > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Auftrag von doof_per
> > > > >
> > > > > Gesendet: Mittwoch, 2. Juni 2010 03:41
> > > > >
> > > > > An: doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com <doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > <mailto:doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com <doepfer_a100%2540yahoogroups.com>>
> > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Betreff: [Doepfer_a100] Newby Seeking Chaos
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Hi Guys,
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Ive spent hours and hours and hours online checking out modular gear
> > > and
> > > > >
> > > > > (trying) to get my head around it all. For now, ive saved up enough
> > > to get
> > > > >
> > > > > an a100 Basic System2 and im hoping for the best! :)
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > What I wanted to know from anyone:
> > > > >
> > > > > Im only after modular gear for the "alive" sounds ive heard from
> > > other
> > > > >
> > > > > peoples stuff (mainly Buchla TBH..love that sound!..But cant afford
> > > > >
> > > > > one..anyways thats irrelevant)
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Im mainly into really distorted sounds, drum n bass,
> > > mechanical/industrial
> > > > >
> > > > > and love shaping sounds and spending hours on a sound to make it
> > > right and
> > > > >
> > > > > come "alive".
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Am I looking in the right place(Doepfer?) for my sound? Ive heard
> > > allot of
> > > > >
> > > > > the dopefer demos online and I guess the impression I get is rather
> > > really
> > > > >
> > > > > old school, simplistic and minimal/80's (Which I dont mind and love
> > > in
> > > > >
> > > > > certain instances)..But at the same time..Can I do more with it?
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > What would someone recommend I get as a startup, to get this sound
> > > im
> > > > >
> > > > > after..Shall I go for a "sound design/shaping"a100 system..Or for a
> > > "Basic
> > > > >
> > > > > synth system"..I have read soo many links/seen youtube vids etc etc
> > > but
> > > > >
> > > > > really I wanted to hear it from the horses mouth, so to speak before
> > > I make
> > > > >
> > > > > my order.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Does anyone have a "sound rape a100" system they can offer advice
> > > on? lol
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks for reading :)
> > > > >
> > > > >
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Re: [Doepfer_a100] Re: Newby Seeking Chaos

2010-06-03 by Bakis Sirros

no! stick with A137-1!

Bakis Sirros - Parallel Worlds / Interconnected / Memory Geist

[Doepfer_a100] group owner

www. parallel - worlds - music. com

www. myspace. com/ parallelworldsmusic

www. myspace. com/ interconnectedmusic

www. myspace. com/ memorygeist

www. DiN. org. uk

www. musicamaximamagnetica. com

www. vu-us. com

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      P.S. Richard:



Your quite right, Point taken mate..Think ill just stick with the 137-2 :)



--- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, RICHARD HORSMAN <richyho@...> wrote:

>

> The WMD Geiger Counter will definitely make your box spit sick sick evil! Have you also considered the Plague Bearer? Fairly unpredictable, but a very capable mangler. The Xtreme filter is nice and nasty - you'll like that. Are 137-1 and 137-2 both necessary? Why do you want the A-111-5 in this box? You may well get more fun from individual modules, and when the time comes for replacing/upgrading, you don't have to throw the whole lot out just to upgade, for example, your VCO.

> 

> Exciting times....

> 

> 

> 

> 

> ________________________________

> From: doof_per <doof_per@...>

> To: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com

> Sent: Thursday, 3 June, 2010 14:43:51

> Subject: [Doepfer_a100] Re: Newby Seeking Chaos

> 

> Â  

> 

> 

> Wow.

> 

> The response & knowledge being shed is amazing. Thank you, I am very grateful (David, York, Nick, Ernst & the others :)

> 

> So im really starting to understand this more and more by the click of my mouse :)

> 

> Here is my updated list..I think this should cover it!?

> 

> Other Brands:

> Geiger Counter 

> B:assMaster 

> Metasonix R53 

> 

> Doepfer:

> A100P9 (case) 

> A-143-1 Quad AD Generator 

> A138-b log Mixer 

> A-114 Ring Modulator 

> A132-1 Dual VCA 

> A119 input 

> A137-1 & A137-2 Wave Multipliers, 

> A106 Xtrene Filter

> A-111-5 Dark Energy (Why the hell not!) 

> A190-2 MIDI (For Dark Energy)

> 

> Can I make loud demonic noises yet pllllease?!?

> 

> --- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, "doof_per" <doof_per@> wrote:

> >

> > 

> > 

> > Bakkis & Robert:

> > Point noted and taken :)

> > 

> > Thanks guys, I will do just that :)

> > 

> > 

> > 

> > David:

> > 

> > "Add a mixer, a ring modulator and audio sources like VCO's and noise if your not just processing external sounds."

> > 

> > - For now, I think i will be just doing external sound.

> > 

> > "Control comes from modulation; LFO's, Envelope generators and VCA's and I promise you can never have enough of these."

> > 

> > - Would you not say that my list has that? Could you recommend any essential units? Im already on 2100Euros on my current list :/ Maybe I should rid of the bitcrusher and some "irrelevant" units (for now)

> > 

> > "It is very important to set a couple of goals you want to achieve,"

> > 

> > - I think my goal for my 1st startup kit, would be to be able to shape & distort bass/synth lead sounds mainly.

> > 

> > 

> > --- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, Robbert Jan Rink <robbertrink@> wrote:

> > >

> > > And do check if you can afford the P9 case. It is only a small extra amount

> > > while it offers more flexibility in the future!

> > > 

> > > Robbert

> > > 

> > > On Wed, Jun 2, 2010 at 1:51 PM, <david.salter@> wrote:

> > > 

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > The list are modules for mashing sound, however you need to control as

> > > > well, even for the nastiest noise.

> > > >

> > > > Control comes from modulation; LFO's, Envelope generators and VCA's and

> > > > I promise you can never have enough of these. Also sequencer is a cool

> > > > choice this can be done with the A160/161 and a mixer combination or one

> > > > of the many purpose built sequencers out there. These no only act as

> > > > note generators but CV generators, complex oscillators and more.

> > > >

> > > > Add a mixer, a ring modulator and audio sources like VCO's and noise if

> > > > your not just processing external sounds.

> > > >

> > > > As I said modular has a habit of getting dangerously consuming.

> > > >

> > > > It is very important to set a couple of goals you want to achieve, do

> > > > some research and ask questions and build a small system (in a largish

> > > > case) to start with then expand as you develop.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > David

> > > >

> > > > * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *

> > > > * * *

> > > > David Salter

> > > > Senior Consultant

> > > >

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> > > >

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> > > > From: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com <Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com>[mailto:

> > > > Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com <Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com>]

> > > > On Behalf Of doof_per

> > > > Sent: 02 June 2010 12:29

> > > >

> > > > To: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com <Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com>

> > > > Subject: [Doepfer_a100] Re: Newby Seeking Chaos

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Whoa!

> > > >

> > > > This is the quickest and nicest advice ive ever gotten. THANKS GUYS!

> > > >

> > > > Thanks a million, everything is being noted & my head is spinning a

> > > > little although light is being shed and my ideas are getting clearer!

> > > >

> > > > I think for now it would be best to just get the sound sources from my

> > > > DAW and use the modular as an effects/shaping/sound design tool. I would

> > > > probably go for modular sound source once I get my head around which

> > > > units/brand do what exaclty.

> > > >

> > > > Here is my current ("interest") list (as far as I can understand from

> > > > reading/hearing the details of each unit specifically on the site)

> > > >

> > > > Others Brands:

> > > > GeigerCounter(FnckYEAH!)

> > > > B:assMaster (Euro Rack)

> > > >

> > > > Doepfer:

> > > > A119input

> > > > A100P6 (case)

> > > > A124Wasp

> > > > A-140 env1eope

> > > > A-115audiodivider

> > > > A-116waveshaper

> > > > A-136distortion

> > > > A-188 BBD

> > > > A187-1

> > > > A189-1 Bit Crusher,

> > > > A137-1 Wave Multipliers

> > > > A106 Xtrene Filter

> > > > A113 Sub Harmonic Gen

> > > >

> > > > Very confused with what these are exactly/if I need them:

> > > > * 1 x Trigger Divider A-160 ?

> > > > * 1 x VC Waveform Processor A-116?

> > > > * 1 x logarithmic VCA A-131?

> > > >

> > > > I do actually own a TM7 Scrotum Smasher & TM1 & llooove them dearly :)

> > > >

> > > > So does the above list make sense to have a working/functioning box of

> > > > destruction? heehee :)

> > > >

> > > > I dont mind everything being mono as I usually prefer mono anyways.

> > > >

> > > > You guys rock!!

> > > >

> > > > --- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com <Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com>

> > > > <mailto:Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com <Doepfer_a100%2540yahoogroups.com>>

> > > > , "Carci" <francois.maxime@>

> > > >

> > > > wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Hi,

> > > > >

> > > > > If you like Buchla, check the brand "Make noise", you'll probably love

> > > > their QMMG / MATHS combo.

> > > > > The most extreme combo I've tried so far, for both processing and raw

> > > > sound generation was A136 distortion + A106 Xtreme filter + Metasonix

> > > > Scrotum smasher. Sounds go from plain powerful distortion to unbearable

> > > > noises and scratches and tube screaming.

> > > > > The smasher is not a module but Metasonix now makes eurorack so be

> > > > sure to check their stuff, (especially if you like the sound on the last

> > > > NIN albums, it's full of it.)

> > > > >

> > > > > Modules like A188 BBD and A189 Bit crusher can be nasty if you like

> > > > digital noise.

> > > > >

> > > > > You look like you already have an idea of what sound you want to

> > > > produce, basic systems are great but if you wanna add more modules,

> > > > you'll need more rackspace. So better have a look at which modules you

> > > > think you can live without in the basic system and replace them with

> > > > more specific modules. Trust me, the time you spend reading every module

> > > > user manual will help you a lot when you get your hands on your system

> > > > for the first time.

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > --- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com <Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com>

> > > > <mailto:Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com <Doepfer_a100%2540yahoogroups.com>>

> > > > , Bakis Sirros

> > > >

> > > > <synth_freak_2000@> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > all of this is true, but also get an A196 PLL module, for weird and

> > > > harsh noises.

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Bakis Sirros - Parallel Worlds / Interconnected / Memory Geist

> > > > > >

> > > > > > [Doepfer_a100] group owner

> > > > > >

> > > > > > www. parallel - worlds - music. com

> > > > > >

> > > > > > www. myspace. com/ parallelworldsmusic

> > > > > >

> > > > > > www. myspace. com/ interconnectedmusic

> > > > > >

> > > > > > www. myspace. com/ memorygeist

> > > > > >

> > > > > > www. DiN. org. uk

> > > > > >

> > > > > > www. musicamaximamagnetica. com

> > > > > >

> > > > > > www. vu-us. com

> > > > > >

> > > > > > --- On Wed, 6/2/10, York Luethje <ybl@> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > From: York Luethje <ybl@>

> > > > > > Subject: AW: [Doepfer_a100] Newby Seeking Chaos

> > > > > > To: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com <Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com>

> > > > <mailto:Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com <Doepfer_a100%2540yahoogroups.com>>

> > > >

> > > > > > Date: Wednesday, June 2, 2010, 11:08 AM

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Hi,

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Do you want the sounds to originate with your modular or do you want

> > > > to use

> > > > > >

> > > > > > it more as a processing tool (e.g. for you drum machine)?

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > In the latter case I suggest at least an A-119 to get sounds into

> > > > the

> > > > > >

> > > > > > system.

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > In addition, Doepfer and all the other manufacturers offer vast

> > > > > >

> > > > > > possibilities for wrecking any sound; you really can't go wrong

> > > > there. Apart

> > > > > >

> > > > > > from the various filters take a look at wave shapers (A-116, A-136),

> > > > wave

> > > > > >

> > > > > > multipliers (A-137), the A-188 range of BBDs etc. And that's just

> > > > Doepfer.

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > If you're not quite sure how to utilise your modular, the basic

> > > > system

> > > > > >

> > > > > > provides a very good starting point. If you later find out that you

> > > > have no

> > > > > >

> > > > > > use for certain modules, you can always sell them and get stuff that

> > > > suits

> > > > > >

> > > > > > you more.

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > The likely reason you hear so many old school demos is that the

> > > > people that

> > > > > >

> > > > > > can afford a modular tend to be a bit older and grew up with prog

> > > > rock or

> > > > > >

> > > > > > 80ies synth pop. There's no reason a modular synthesizer can't

> > > > produce

> > > > > >

> > > > > > contemporary sounds, especially now that more and more digital

> > > > sounds

> > > > > >

> > > > > > generators and processors are developed. Check out the new DSP

> > > > processor

> > > > > >

> > > > > > from Doepfer, but also the Tip Top Audio and Harvestman range.

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > One word of caution: People tend to go for the 'Sexy' modules, like

> > > > filters

> > > > > >

> > > > > > and add utility modules only as an afterthought. After messing with

> > > > your

> > > > > >

> > > > > > gear for a while you will probably find that you need more VCA's,

> > > > envelopes,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > LFO's etc. The basic system also supplies you with a decent amount

> > > > of these.

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Hope this helps,

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > York

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > _____

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Von: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com <Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com>

> > > > <mailto:Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com <Doepfer_a100%2540yahoogroups.com>>

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > [mailto:Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com <Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com>

> > > > <mailto:Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com <Doepfer_a100%2540yahoogroups.com>>

> > > > ] Im

> > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Auftrag von doof_per

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Gesendet: Mittwoch, 2. Juni 2010 03:41

> > > > > >

> > > > > > An: doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com <doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com>

> > > > <mailto:doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com <doepfer_a100%2540yahoogroups.com>>

> > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Betreff: [Doepfer_a100] Newby Seeking Chaos

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Hi Guys,

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Ive spent hours and hours and hours online checking out modular gear

> > > > and

> > > > > >

> > > > > > (trying) to get my head around it all. For now, ive saved up enough

> > > > to get

> > > > > >

> > > > > > an a100 Basic System2 and im hoping for the best! :)

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > What I wanted to know from anyone:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Im only after modular gear for the "alive" sounds ive heard from

> > > > other

> > > > > >

> > > > > > peoples stuff (mainly Buchla TBH..love that sound!..But cant afford

> > > > > >

> > > > > > one..anyways thats irrelevant)

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Im mainly into really distorted sounds, drum n bass,

> > > > mechanical/industrial

> > > > > >

> > > > > > and love shaping sounds and spending hours on a sound to make it

> > > > right and

> > > > > >

> > > > > > come "alive".

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Am I looking in the right place(Doepfer?) for my sound? Ive heard

> > > > allot of

> > > > > >

> > > > > > the dopefer demos online and I guess the impression I get is rather

> > > > really

> > > > > >

> > > > > > old school, simplistic and minimal/80's (Which I dont mind and love

> > > > in

> > > > > >

> > > > > > certain instances)..But at the same time..Can I do more with it?

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > What would someone recommend I get as a startup, to get this sound

> > > > im

> > > > > >

> > > > > > after..Shall I go for a "sound design/shaping"a100 system..Or for a

> > > > "Basic

> > > > > >

> > > > > > synth system"..I have read soo many links/seen youtube vids etc etc

> > > > but

> > > > > >

> > > > > > really I wanted to hear it from the horses mouth, so to speak before

> > > > I make

> > > > > >

> > > > > > my order.

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Does anyone have a "sound rape a100" system they can offer advice

> > > > on? lol

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Thanks for reading :)

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Re: [Doepfer_a100] Re: Newby Seeking Chaos

2010-06-03 by York Luethje

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From: "doof_per" <doof_per@yahoo.com>
Date: Thu, 03 Jun 2010 13:43:51 
To: <Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com>
Subject: [Doepfer_a100] Re: Newby Seeking Chaos



Wow.

The response & knowledge being shed is amazing. Thank you, I am very grateful (David, York, Nick, Ernst & the others :)

So im really starting to understand this more and more by the click of my mouse :)

Here is my updated list..I think this should cover it!?

Other Brands:
Geiger Counter 			
B:assMaster 	
Metasonix R53					

Doepfer:
A100P9 (case)				
A-143-1 Quad AD Generator	
A138-b log Mixer		
A-114 Ring Modulator		
A132-1 Dual VCA		
A119 input					
A137-1 & A137-2 Wave Multipliers, 	
A106 Xtrene Filter
A-111-5 Dark Energy (Why the hell not!)		
A190-2 MIDI (For Dark Energy)

Can I make loud demonic noises yet pllllease?!?



--- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, "doof_per" <doof_per@...> wrote:
>
> 
> 
> Bakkis & Robert:
> Point noted and taken :)
> 
> Thanks guys, I will do just that :)
> 
> 
> 
> David:
> 
> "Add a mixer, a ring modulator and audio sources like VCO's and noise if your not just processing external sounds."
> 
> - For now, I think i will be just doing external sound.
> 
> "Control comes from modulation; LFO's, Envelope generators and VCA's and I promise you can never have enough of these."
> 
> - Would you not say that my list has that? Could you recommend any essential units? Im already on 2100Euros on my current list :/ Maybe I should rid of the bitcrusher and some "irrelevant" units (for now)
> 
> "It is very important to set a couple of goals you want to achieve,"
> 
> - I think my goal for my 1st startup kit, would be to be able to shape & distort bass/synth lead sounds mainly.
> 
> 
> --- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, Robbert Jan Rink <robbertrink@> wrote:
> >
> > And do check if you can afford the P9 case. It is only a small extra amount
> > while it offers more flexibility in the future!
> > 
> > Robbert
> > 
> > On Wed, Jun 2, 2010 at 1:51 PM, <david.salter@> wrote:
> > 
> > >
> > >
> > > The list are modules for mashing sound, however you need to control as
> > > well, even for the nastiest noise.
> > >
> > > Control comes from modulation; LFO's, Envelope generators and VCA's and
> > > I promise you can never have enough of these. Also sequencer is a cool
> > > choice this can be done with the A160/161 and a mixer combination or one
> > > of the many purpose built sequencers out there. These no only act as
> > > note generators but CV generators, complex oscillators and more.
> > >
> > > Add a mixer, a ring modulator and audio sources like VCO's and noise if
> > > your not just processing external sounds.
> > >
> > > As I said modular has a habit of getting dangerously consuming.
> > >
> > > It is very important to set a couple of goals you want to achieve, do
> > > some research and ask questions and build a small system (in a largish
> > > case) to start with then expand as you develop.
> > >
> > >
> > > David
> > >
> > > * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
> > > * * *
> > > David Salter
> > > Senior Consultant
> > >
> > > SSG UKI
> > >
> > > Thomson Reuters
> > >
> > > O +44 (0)20 7542 2402X 52402
> > > M 07990562402
> > >
> > > david.salter@ <david.salter%40thomsonreuters.com>
> > > thomsonreuters.com <http://thomsonreuters.com/>
> > >
> > > P Please consider the environment before printing this e-mail
> > >
> > >________________________________
> > >
> > > From: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com <Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com>[mailto:
> > > Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com <Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com>]
> > > On Behalf Of doof_per
> > > Sent: 02 June 2010 12:29
> > >
> > > To: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com <Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > Subject: [Doepfer_a100] Re: Newby Seeking Chaos
> > >
> > >
> > > Whoa!
> > >
> > > This is the quickest and nicest advice ive ever gotten. THANKS GUYS!
> > >
> > > Thanks a million, everything is being noted & my head is spinning a
> > > little although light is being shed and my ideas are getting clearer!
> > >
> > > I think for now it would be best to just get the sound sources from my
> > > DAW and use the modular as an effects/shaping/sound design tool. I would
> > > probably go for modular sound source once I get my head around which
> > > units/brand do what exaclty.
> > >
> > > Here is my current ("interest") list (as far as I can understand from
> > > reading/hearing the details of each unit specifically on the site)
> > >
> > > Others Brands:
> > > GeigerCounter(FnckYEAH!)
> > > B:assMaster (Euro Rack)
> > >
> > > Doepfer:
> > > A119input
> > > A100P6 (case)
> > > A124Wasp
> > > A-140 env1eope
> > > A-115audiodivider
> > > A-116waveshaper
> > > A-136distortion
> > > A-188 BBD
> > > A187-1
> > > A189-1 Bit Crusher,
> > > A137-1 Wave Multipliers
> > > A106 Xtrene Filter
> > > A113 Sub Harmonic Gen
> > >
> > > Very confused with what these are exactly/if I need them:
> > > * 1 x Trigger Divider A-160 ?
> > > * 1 x VC Waveform Processor A-116?
> > > * 1 x logarithmic VCA A-131?
> > >
> > > I do actually own a TM7 Scrotum Smasher & TM1 & llooove them dearly :)
> > >
> > > So does the above list make sense to have a working/functioning box of
> > > destruction? heehee :)
> > >
> > > I dont mind everything being mono as I usually prefer mono anyways.
> > >
> > > You guys rock!!
> > >
> > > --- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com <Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > <mailto:Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com <Doepfer_a100%2540yahoogroups.com>>
> > > , "Carci" <francois.maxime@>
> > >
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Hi,
> > > >
> > > > If you like Buchla, check the brand "Make noise", you'll probably love
> > > their QMMG / MATHS combo.
> > > > The most extreme combo I've tried so far, for both processing and raw
> > > sound generation was A136 distortion + A106 Xtreme filter + Metasonix
> > > Scrotum smasher. Sounds go from plain powerful distortion to unbearable
> > > noises and scratches and tube screaming.
> > > > The smasher is not a module but Metasonix now makes eurorack so be
> > > sure to check their stuff, (especially if you like the sound on the last
> > > NIN albums, it's full of it.)
> > > >
> > > > Modules like A188 BBD and A189 Bit crusher can be nasty if you like
> > > digital noise.
> > > >
> > > > You look like you already have an idea of what sound you want to
> > > produce, basic systems are great but if you wanna add more modules,
> > > you'll need more rackspace. So better have a look at which modules you
> > > think you can live without in the basic system and replace them with
> > > more specific modules. Trust me, the time you spend reading every module
> > > user manual will help you a lot when you get your hands on your system
> > > for the first time.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com <Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > <mailto:Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com <Doepfer_a100%2540yahoogroups.com>>
> > > , Bakis Sirros
> > >
> > > <synth_freak_2000@> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > all of this is true, but also get an A196 PLL module, for weird and
> > > harsh noises.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Bakis Sirros - Parallel Worlds / Interconnected / Memory Geist
> > > > >
> > > > > [Doepfer_a100] group owner
> > > > >
> > > > > www. parallel - worlds - music. com
> > > > >
> > > > > www. myspace. com/ parallelworldsmusic
> > > > >
> > > > > www. myspace. com/ interconnectedmusic
> > > > >
> > > > > www. myspace. com/ memorygeist
> > > > >
> > > > > www. DiN. org. uk
> > > > >
> > > > > www. musicamaximamagnetica. com
> > > > >
> > > > > www. vu-us. com
> > > > >
> > > > > --- On Wed, 6/2/10, York Luethje <ybl@> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > From: York Luethje <ybl@>
> > > > > Subject: AW: [Doepfer_a100] Newby Seeking Chaos
> > > > > To: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com <Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > <mailto:Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com <Doepfer_a100%2540yahoogroups.com>>
> > >
> > >  > > Date: Wednesday, June 2, 2010, 11:08 AM
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Hi,
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Do you want the sounds to originate with your modular or do you want
> > > to use
> > > > >
> > > > > it more as a processing tool (e.g. for you drum machine)?
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > In the latter case I suggest at least an A-119 to get sounds into
> > > the
> > > > >
> > > > > system.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > In addition, Doepfer and all the other manufacturers offer vast
> > > > >
> > > > > possibilities for wrecking any sound; you really can't go wrong
> > > there. Apart
> > > > >
> > > > > from the various filters take a look at wave shapers (A-116, A-136),
> > > wave
> > > > >
> > > > > multipliers (A-137), the A-188 range of BBDs etc. And that's just
> > > Doepfer.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > If you're not quite sure how to utilise your modular, the basic
> > > system
> > > > >
> > > > > provides a very good starting point. If you later find out that you
> > > have no
> > > > >
> > > > > use for certain modules, you can always sell them and get stuff that
> > > suits
> > > > >
> > > > > you more.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > The likely reason you hear so many old school demos is that the
> > > people that
> > > > >
> > > > > can afford a modular tend to be a bit older and grew up with prog
> > > rock or
> > > > >
> > > > > 80ies synth pop. There's no reason a modular synthesizer can't
> > > produce
> > > > >
> > > > > contemporary sounds, especially now that more and more digital
> > > sounds
> > > > >
> > > > > generators and processors are developed. Check out the new DSP
> > > processor
> > > > >
> > > > > from Doepfer, but also the Tip Top Audio and Harvestman range.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > One word of caution: People tend to go for the 'Sexy' modules, like
> > > filters
> > > > >
> > > > > and add utility modules only as an afterthought. After messing with
> > > your
> > > > >
> > > > > gear for a while you will probably find that you need more VCA's,
> > > envelopes,
> > > > >
> > > > > LFO's etc. The basic system also supplies you with a decent amount
> > > of these.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Hope this helps,
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > York
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >_____
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Von: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com <Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > <mailto:Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com <Doepfer_a100%2540yahoogroups.com>>
> > >
> > >
> > > [mailto:Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com <Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > <mailto:Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com <Doepfer_a100%2540yahoogroups.com>>
> > > ] Im
> > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Auftrag von doof_per
> > > > >
> > > > > Gesendet: Mittwoch, 2. Juni 2010 03:41
> > > > >
> > > > > An: doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com <doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > <mailto:doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com <doepfer_a100%2540yahoogroups.com>>
> > >
> > >  > >
> > > > > Betreff: [Doepfer_a100] Newby Seeking Chaos
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Hi Guys,
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Ive spent hours and hours and hours online checking out modular gear
> > > and
> > > > >
> > > > > (trying) to get my head around it all. For now, ive saved up enough
> > > to get
> > > > >
> > > > > an a100 Basic System2 and im hoping for the best! :)
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > What I wanted to know from anyone:
> > > > >
> > > > > Im only after modular gear for the "alive" sounds ive heard from
> > > other
> > > > >
> > > > > peoples stuff (mainly Buchla TBH..love that sound!..But cant afford
> > > > >
> > > > > one..anyways thats irrelevant)
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Im mainly into really distorted sounds, drum n bass,
> > > mechanical/industrial
> > > > >
> > > > > and love shaping sounds and spending hours on a sound to make it
> > > right and
> > > > >
> > > > > come "alive".
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Am I looking in the right place(Doepfer?) for my sound? Ive heard
> > > allot of
> > > > >
> > > > > the dopefer demos online and I guess the impression I get is rather
> > > really
> > > > >
> > > > > old school, simplistic and minimal/80's (Which I dont mind and love
> > > in
> > > > >
> > > > > certain instances)..But at the same time..Can I do more with it?
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > What would someone recommend I get as a startup, to get this sound
> > > im
> > > > >
> > > > > after..Shall I go for a "sound design/shaping"a100 system..Or for a
> > > "Basic
> > > > >
> > > > > synth system"..I have read soo many links/seen youtube vids etc etc
> > > but
> > > > >
> > > > > really I wanted to hear it from the horses mouth, so to speak before
> > > I make
> > > > >
> > > > > my order.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Does anyone have a "sound rape a100" system they can offer advice
> > > on? lol
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks for reading :)
> > > > >
> > > > >
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Re: [Doepfer_a100] Re: Newby Seeking Chaos

2010-06-03 by york luethje

You're in South Africa? Good luck for Bafana Bafana in the next weeks!




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From: doof_per <doof_per@yahoo.com>
To: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, June 3, 2010 11:36:39
Subject: [Doepfer_a100] Re: Newby Seeking Chaos

  
David & Richard - Good thought. I should just prob go for the "Dark Energy" standalone and be able to sell it as a unit when I get "tired" of it in the future as my module epxands, rather than sitting with the Euro Rack module (selling 2nd hand modular units in South Africa will be VERY difficult!)..Had a listen to the Plague Bearer demos..TBH it doesnt (personally speaking) tickle my fancy much..Very "Pedal" sounding if I may say? My current Metasonix TM7 & TM1 can handle those quite easily..But I appreciate the tip mate :)

Damage here we come!

Yeeeeha!!!!!!!

--- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, <david.salter@...> wrote:
>
> That looks like a nice set-up.
> 
> 
> 
> Question - do you mean Dark Energy or A111-5?
> 
> 
> 
> The dark Energy has a built in midi interface that provides CV & gate
> out for other modules so I don't think the A190-2 is needed.
> 
> 
> 
> David
> 
> 
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> On Behalf Of doof_per
> Sent: 03 June 2010 14:44
> To: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [Doepfer_a100] Re: Newby Seeking Chaos
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Wow.
> 
> The response & knowledge being shed is amazing. Thank you, I am very
> grateful (David, York, Nick, Ernst & the others :)
> 
> So im really starting to understand this more and more by the click of
> my mouse :)
> 
> Here is my updated list..I think this should cover it!?
> 
> Other Brands:
> Geiger Counter 
> B:assMaster 
> Metasonix R53 
> 
> Doepfer:
> A100P9 (case) 
> A-143-1 Quad AD Generator 
> A138-b log Mixer 
> A-114 Ring Modulator 
> A132-1 Dual VCA 
> A119 input 
> A137-1 & A137-2 Wave Multipliers, 
> A106 Xtrene Filter
> A-111-5 Dark Energy (Why the hell not!) 
> A190-2 MIDI (For Dark Energy)
> 
> Can I make loud demonic noises yet pllllease?!?
> 
> --- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com
> <mailto:Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com> , "doof_per" <doof_per@>
> wrote:
> >
> > 
> > 
> > Bakkis & Robert:
> > Point noted and taken :)
> > 
> > Thanks guys, I will do just that :)
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > David:
> > 
> > "Add a mixer, a ring modulator and audio sources like VCO's and noise
> if your not just processing external sounds."
> > 
> > - For now, I think i will be just doing external sound.
> > 
> > "Control comes from modulation; LFO's, Envelope generators and VCA's
> and I promise you can never have enough of these."
> > 
> > - Would you not say that my list has that? Could you recommend any
> essential units? Im already on 2100Euros on my current list :/ Maybe I
> should rid of the bitcrusher and some "irrelevant" units (for now)
> > 
> > "It is very important to set a couple of goals you want to achieve,"
> > 
> > - I think my goal for my 1st startup kit, would be to be able to shape
> & distort bass/synth lead sounds mainly.
> > 
> > 
> > --- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com
> <mailto:Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com> , Robbert Jan Rink
> <robbertrink@> wrote:
> > >
> > > And do check if you can afford the P9 case. It is only a small extra
> amount
> > > while it offers more flexibility in the future!
> > > 
> > > Robbert
> > > 
> > > On Wed, Jun 2, 2010 at 1:51 PM, <david.salter@> wrote:
> > > 
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > The list are modules for mashing sound, however you need to
> control as
> > > > well, even for the nastiest noise.
> > > >
> > > > Control comes from modulation; LFO's, Envelope generators and
> VCA's and
> > > > I promise you can never have enough of these. Also sequencer is a
> cool
> > > > choice this can be done with the A160/161 and a mixer combination
> or one
> > > > of the many purpose built sequencers out there. These no only act
> as
> > > > note generators but CV generators, complex oscillators and more.
> > > >
> > > > Add a mixer, a ring modulator and audio sources like VCO's and
> noise if
> > > > your not just processing external sounds.
> > > >
> > > > As I said modular has a habit of getting dangerously consuming.
> > > >
> > > > It is very important to set a couple of goals you want to achieve,
> do
> > > > some research and ask questions and build a small system (in a
> largish
> > > > case) to start with then expand as you develop.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > David
> > > >
> > > > * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
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> <Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com>[mailto:
> > > > Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com
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> <Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com>]
> > > > On Behalf Of doof_per
> > > > Sent: 02 June 2010 12:29
> > > >
> > > > To: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com
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> <Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > > Subject: [Doepfer_a100] Re: Newby Seeking Chaos
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Whoa!
> > > >
> > > > This is the quickest and nicest advice ive ever gotten. THANKS
> GUYS!
> > > >
> > > > Thanks a million, everything is being noted & my head is spinning
> a
> > > > little although light is being shed and my ideas are getting
> clearer!
> > > >
> > > > I think for now it would be best to just get the sound sources
> from my
> > > > DAW and use the modular as an effects/shaping/sound design tool. I
> would
> > > > probably go for modular sound source once I get my head around
> which
> > > > units/brand do what exaclty.
> > > >
> > > > Here is my current ("interest") list (as far as I can understand
> from
> > > > reading/hearing the details of each unit specifically on the site)
> > > >
> > > > Others Brands:
> > > > GeigerCounter(FnckYEAH!)
> > > > B:assMaster (Euro Rack)
> > > >
> > > > Doepfer:
> > > > A119input
> > > > A100P6 (case)
> > > > A124Wasp
> > > > A-140 env1eope
> > > > A-115audiodivider
> > > > A-116waveshaper
> > > > A-136distortion
> > > > A-188 BBD
> > > > A187-1
> > > > A189-1 Bit Crusher,
> > > > A137-1 Wave Multipliers
> > > > A106 Xtrene Filter
> > > > A113 Sub Harmonic Gen
> > > >
> > > > Very confused with what these are exactly/if I need them:
> > > > * 1 x Trigger Divider A-160 ?
> > > > * 1 x VC Waveform Processor A-116?
> > > > * 1 x logarithmic VCA A-131?
> > > >
> > > > I do actually own a TM7 Scrotum Smasher & TM1 & llooove them
> dearly :)
> > > >
> > > > So does the above list make sense to have a working/functioning
> box of
> > > > destruction? heehee :)
> > > >
> > > > I dont mind everything being mono as I usually prefer mono
> anyways.
> > > >
> > > > You guys rock!!
> > > >
> > > > --- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com
> <mailto:Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com>
> <Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > > <mailto:Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com
> <Doepfer_a100%2540yahoogroups.com>>
> > > > , "Carci" <francois.maxime@>
> > > >
> > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Hi,
> > > > >
> > > > > If you like Buchla, check the brand "Make noise", you'll
> probably love
> > > > their QMMG / MATHS combo.
> > > > > The most extreme combo I've tried so far, for both processing
> and raw
> > > > sound generation was A136 distortion + A106 Xtreme filter +
> Metasonix
> > > > Scrotum smasher. Sounds go from plain powerful distortion to
> unbearable
> > > > noises and scratches and tube screaming.
> > > > > The smasher is not a module but Metasonix now makes eurorack so
> be
> > > > sure to check their stuff, (especially if you like the sound on
> the last
> > > > NIN albums, it's full of it.)
> > > > >
> > > > > Modules like A188 BBD and A189 Bit crusher can be nasty if you
> like
> > > > digital noise.
> > > > >
> > > > > You look like you already have an idea of what sound you want to
> > > > produce, basic systems are great but if you wanna add more
> modules,
> > > > you'll need more rackspace. So better have a look at which modules
> you
> > > > think you can live without in the basic system and replace them
> with
> > > > more specific modules. Trust me, the time you spend reading every
> module
> > > > user manual will help you a lot when you get your hands on your
> system
> > > > for the first time.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com
> <mailto:Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com>
> <Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > > <mailto:Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com
> <Doepfer_a100%2540yahoogroups.com>>
> > > > , Bakis Sirros
> > > >
> > > > <synth_freak_2000@> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > all of this is true, but also get an A196 PLL module, for
> weird and
> > > > harsh noises.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Bakis Sirros - Parallel Worlds / Interconnected / Memory Geist
> > > > > >
> > > > > > [Doepfer_a100] group owner
> > > > > >
> > > > > > www. parallel - worlds - music. com
> > > > > >
> > > > > > www. myspace. com/ parallelworldsmusic
> > > > > >
> > > > > > www. myspace. com/ interconnectedmusic
> > > > > >
> > > > > > www. myspace. com/ memorygeist
> > > > > >
> > > > > > www. DiN. org. uk
> > > > > >
> > > > > > www. musicamaximamagnetica. com
> > > > > >
> > > > > > www. vu-us. com
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --- On Wed, 6/2/10, York Luethje <ybl@> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > From: York Luethje <ybl@>
> > > > > > Subject: AW: [Doepfer_a100] Newby Seeking Chaos
> > > > > > To: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com
> <mailto:Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com>
> <Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > > <mailto:Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com
> <Doepfer_a100%2540yahoogroups.com>>
> > > >
> > > > > > Date: Wednesday, June 2, 2010, 11:08 AM
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Hi,
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Do you want the sounds to originate with your modular or do
> you want
> > > > to use
> > > > > >
> > > > > > it more as a processing tool (e.g. for you drum machine)?
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > In the latter case I suggest at least an A-119 to get sounds
> into
> > > > the
> > > > > >
> > > > > > system.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > In addition, Doepfer and all the other manufacturers offer
> vast
> > > > > >
> > > > > > possibilities for wrecking any sound; you really can't go
> wrong
> > > > there. Apart
> > > > > >
> > > > > > from the various filters take a look at wave shapers (A-116,
> A-136),
> > > > wave
> > > > > >
> > > > > > multipliers (A-137), the A-188 range of BBDs etc. And that's
> just
> > > > Doepfer.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > If you're not quite sure how to utilise your modular, the
> basic
> > > > system
> > > > > >
> > > > > > provides a very good starting point. If you later find out
> that you
> > > > have no
> > > > > >
> > > > > > use for certain modules, you can always sell them and get
> stuff that
> > > > suits
> > > > > >
> > > > > > you more.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The likely reason you hear so many old school demos is that
> the
> > > > people that
> > > > > >
> > > > > > can afford a modular tend to be a bit older and grew up with
> prog
> > > > rock or
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 80ies synth pop. There's no reason a modular synthesizer can't
> > > > produce
> > > > > >
> > > > > > contemporary sounds, especially now that more and more digital
> > > > sounds
> > > > > >
> > > > > > generators and processors are developed. Check out the new DSP
> > > > processor
> > > > > >
> > > > > > from Doepfer, but also the Tip Top Audio and Harvestman range.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > One word of caution: People tend to go for the 'Sexy' modules,
> like
> > > > filters
> > > > > >
> > > > > > and add utility modules only as an afterthought. After messing
> with
> > > > your
> > > > > >
> > > > > > gear for a while you will probably find that you need more
> VCA's,
> > > > envelopes,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > LFO's etc. The basic system also supplies you with a decent
> amount
> > > > of these.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Hope this helps,
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > York
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > _____
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Von: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com
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> > > > <mailto:Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com
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> > > > ] Im
> > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Auftrag von doof_per
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Gesendet: Mittwoch, 2. Juni 2010 03:41
> > > > > >
> > > > > > An: doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com
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> > > > > >
> > > > > > Betreff: [Doepfer_a100] Newby Seeking Chaos
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Hi Guys,
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Ive spent hours and hours and hours online checking out
> modular gear
> > > > and
> > > > > >
> > > > > > (trying) to get my head around it all. For now, ive saved up
> enough
> > > > to get
> > > > > >
> > > > > > an a100 Basic System2 and im hoping for the best! :)
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > What I wanted to know from anyone:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Im only after modular gear for the "alive" sounds ive heard
> from
> > > > other
> > > > > >
> > > > > > peoples stuff (mainly Buchla TBH..love that sound!..But cant
> afford
> > > > > >
> > > > > > one..anyways thats irrelevant)
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Im mainly into really distorted sounds, drum n bass,
> > > > mechanical/industrial
> > > > > >
> > > > > > and love shaping sounds and spending hours on a sound to make
> it
> > > > right and
> > > > > >
> > > > > > come "alive".
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Am I looking in the right place(Doepfer?) for my sound? Ive
> heard
> > > > allot of
> > > > > >
> > > > > > the dopefer demos online and I guess the impression I get is
> rather
> > > > really
> > > > > >
> > > > > > old school, simplistic and minimal/80's (Which I dont mind and
> love
> > > > in
> > > > > >
> > > > > > certain instances)..But at the same time..Can I do more with
> it?
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > What would someone recommend I get as a startup, to get this
> sound
> > > > im
> > > > > >
> > > > > > after..Shall I go for a "sound design/shaping"a100 system..Or
> for a
> > > > "Basic
> > > > > >
> > > > > > synth system"..I have read soo many links/seen youtube vids
> etc etc
> > > > but
> > > > > >
> > > > > > really I wanted to hear it from the horses mouth, so to speak
> before
> > > > I make
> > > > > >
> > > > > > my order.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Does anyone have a "sound rape a100" system they can offer
> advice
> > > > on? lol
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thanks for reading :)
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Re: Newby Seeking Chaos

2010-06-04 by doof_per

Haha!

You have no idea mate... It wouldnt surprise me if they already exist.. All we need is a limited edition Doepfer bafana vuvuzela VCO & that would have covered the entire FIFA range of products.

--- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, <david.salter@...> wrote:
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> Behave ;o)
> 
> 
> ...Bafana plugs ?
> 
> Sorry, couldn't resist... :-)
> 
> Best,
> Julien
> 
> 
> Le 3 juin 2010 à 20:41, york luethje a écrit :
> 
> > You're in South Africa? Good luck for Bafana Bafana in the next weeks!
> > 
> > ________________________________
> > From: doof_per <doof_per@...>
> > To: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com
> > Sent: Thursday, June 3, 2010 11:36:39
> > Subject: [Doepfer_a100] Re: Newby Seeking Chaos
> > 
> > David & Richard - Good thought. I should just prob go for the "Dark Energy" standalone and be able to sell it as a unit when I get "tired" of it in the future as my module epxands, rather than sitting with the Euro Rack module (selling 2nd hand modular units in South Africa will be VERY difficult!)..Had a listen to the Plague Bearer demos..TBH it doesnt (personally speaking) tickle my fancy much..Very "Pedal" sounding if I may say? My current Metasonix TM7 & TM1 can handle those quite easily..But I appreciate the tip mate :)
> > 
> > Damage here we come!
> > 
> > Yeeeeha!!!!!!!
> > 
> > --- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, <david.salter@> wrote:
> > >
> > > That looks like a nice set-up.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Question - do you mean Dark Energy or A111-5?
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > The dark Energy has a built in midi interface that provides CV & gate
> > > out for other modules so I don't think the A190-2 is needed.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > David
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
> > > * * *
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> > > 
> > > 
> > > ________________________________
> > > 
> > > From: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com]
> > > On Behalf Of doof_per
> > > Sent: 03 June 2010 14:44
> > > To: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com
> > > Subject: [Doepfer_a100] Re: Newby Seeking Chaos
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Wow.
> > > 
> > > The response & knowledge being shed is amazing. Thank you, I am very
> > > grateful (David, York, Nick, Ernst & the others :)
> > > 
> > > So im really starting to understand this more and more by the click of
> > > my mouse :)
> > > 
> > > Here is my updated list..I think this should cover it!?
> > > 
> > > Other Brands:
> > > Geiger Counter 
> > > B:assMaster 
> > > Metasonix R53 
> > > 
> > > Doepfer:
> > > A100P9 (case) 
> > > A-143-1 Quad AD Generator 
> > > A138-b log Mixer 
> > > A-114 Ring Modulator 
> > > A132-1 Dual VCA 
> > > A119 input 
> > > A137-1 & A137-2 Wave Multipliers, 
> > > A106 Xtrene Filter
> > > A-111-5 Dark Energy (Why the hell not!) 
> > > A190-2 MIDI (For Dark Energy)
> > > 
> > > Can I make loud demonic noises yet pllllease?!?
> > > 
> > > --- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com
> > > <mailto:Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com> , "doof_per" <doof_per@>
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > Bakkis & Robert:
> > > > Point noted and taken :)
> > > > 
> > > > Thanks guys, I will do just that :)
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > David:
> > > > 
> > > > "Add a mixer, a ring modulator and audio sources like VCO's and noise
> > > if your not just processing external sounds."
> > > > 
> > > > - For now, I think i will be just doing external sound.
> > > > 
> > > > "Control comes from modulation; LFO's, Envelope generators and VCA's
> > > and I promise you can never have enough of these."
> > > > 
> > > > - Would you not say that my list has that? Could you recommend any
> > > essential units? Im already on 2100Euros on my current list :/ Maybe I
> > > should rid of the bitcrusher and some "irrelevant" units (for now)
> > > > 
> > > > "It is very important to set a couple of goals you want to achieve,"
> > > > 
> > > > - I think my goal for my 1st startup kit, would be to be able to shape
> > > & distort bass/synth lead sounds mainly.
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > --- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com
> > > <mailto:Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com> , Robbert Jan Rink
> > > <robbertrink@> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > And do check if you can afford the P9 case. It is only a small extra
> > > amount
> > > > > while it offers more flexibility in the future!
> > > > > 
> > > > > Robbert
> > > > > 
> > > > > On Wed, Jun 2, 2010 at 1:51 PM, <david.salter@> wrote:
> > > > > 
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The list are modules for mashing sound, however you need to
> > > control as
> > > > > > well, even for the nastiest noise.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Control comes from modulation; LFO's, Envelope generators and
> > > VCA's and
> > > > > > I promise you can never have enough of these. Also sequencer is a
> > > cool
> > > > > > choice this can be done with the A160/161 and a mixer combination
> > > or one
> > > > > > of the many purpose built sequencers out there. These no only act
> > > as
> > > > > > note generators but CV generators, complex oscillators and more.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Add a mixer, a ring modulator and audio sources like VCO's and
> > > noise if
> > > > > > your not just processing external sounds.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > As I said modular has a habit of getting dangerously consuming.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > It is very important to set a couple of goals you want to achieve,
> > > do
> > > > > > some research and ask questions and build a small system (in a
> > > largish
> > > > > > case) to start with then expand as you develop.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > David
> > > > > >
> > > > > > * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
> > > * * *
> > > > > > * * *
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> > > > > > Senior Consultant
> > > > > >
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> > > > > > ________________________________
> > > > > >
> > > > > > From: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com
> > > <mailto:Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > <Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com>[mailto:
> > > > > > Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com
> > > <mailto:Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > <Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com>]
> > > > > > On Behalf Of doof_per
> > > > > > Sent: 02 June 2010 12:29
> > > > > >
> > > > > > To: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com
> > > <mailto:Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > <Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > > > > Subject: [Doepfer_a100] Re: Newby Seeking Chaos
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Whoa!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > This is the quickest and nicest advice ive ever gotten. THANKS
> > > GUYS!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thanks a million, everything is being noted & my head is spinning
> > > a
> > > > > > little although light is being shed and my ideas are getting
> > > clearer!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I think for now it would be best to just get the sound sources
> > > from my
> > > > > > DAW and use the modular as an effects/shaping/sound design tool. I
> > > would
> > > > > > probably go for modular sound source once I get my head around
> > > which
> > > > > > units/brand do what exaclty.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Here is my current ("interest") list (as far as I can understand
> > > from
> > > > > > reading/hearing the details of each unit specifically on the site)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Others Brands:
> > > > > > GeigerCounter(FnckYEAH!)
> > > > > > B:assMaster (Euro Rack)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Doepfer:
> > > > > > A119input
> > > > > > A100P6 (case)
> > > > > > A124Wasp
> > > > > > A-140 env1eope
> > > > > > A-115audiodivider
> > > > > > A-116waveshaper
> > > > > > A-136distortion
> > > > > > A-188 BBD
> > > > > > A187-1
> > > > > > A189-1 Bit Crusher,
> > > > > > A137-1 Wave Multipliers
> > > > > > A106 Xtrene Filter
> > > > > > A113 Sub Harmonic Gen
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Very confused with what these are exactly/if I need them:
> > > > > > * 1 x Trigger Divider A-160 ?
> > > > > > * 1 x VC Waveform Processor A-116?
> > > > > > * 1 x logarithmic VCA A-131?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I do actually own a TM7 Scrotum Smasher & TM1 & llooove them
> > > dearly :)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > So does the above list make sense to have a working/functioning
> > > box of
> > > > > > destruction? heehee :)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I dont mind everything being mono as I usually prefer mono
> > > anyways.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > You guys rock!!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com
> > > <mailto:Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > <Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > > > > <mailto:Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com
> > > <Doepfer_a100%2540yahoogroups.com>>
> > > > > > , "Carci" <francois.maxime@>
> > > > > >
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Hi,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > If you like Buchla, check the brand "Make noise", you'll
> > > probably love
> > > > > > their QMMG / MATHS combo.
> > > > > > > The most extreme combo I've tried so far, for both processing
> > > and raw
> > > > > > sound generation was A136 distortion + A106 Xtreme filter +
> > > Metasonix
> > > > > > Scrotum smasher. Sounds go from plain powerful distortion to
> > > unbearable
> > > > > > noises and scratches and tube screaming.
> > > > > > > The smasher is not a module but Metasonix now makes eurorack so
> > > be
> > > > > > sure to check their stuff, (especially if you like the sound on
> > > the last
> > > > > > NIN albums, it's full of it.)
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Modules like A188 BBD and A189 Bit crusher can be nasty if you
> > > like
> > > > > > digital noise.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > You look like you already have an idea of what sound you want to
> > > > > > produce, basic systems are great but if you wanna add more
> > > modules,
> > > > > > you'll need more rackspace. So better have a look at which modules
> > > you
> > > > > > think you can live without in the basic system and replace them
> > > with
> > > > > > more specific modules. Trust me, the time you spend reading every
> > > module
> > > > > > user manual will help you a lot when you get your hands on your
> > > system
> > > > > > for the first time.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > --- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com
> > > <mailto:Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > <Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > > > > <mailto:Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com
> > > <Doepfer_a100%2540yahoogroups.com>>
> > > > > > , Bakis Sirros
> > > > > >
> > > > > > <synth_freak_2000@> wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > all of this is true, but also get an A196 PLL module, for
> > > weird and
> > > > > > harsh noises.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Bakis Sirros - Parallel Worlds / Interconnected / Memory Geist
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > [Doepfer_a100] group owner
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > www. parallel - worlds - music. com
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > www. myspace. com/ parallelworldsmusic
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > www. myspace. com/ interconnectedmusic
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > www. myspace. com/ memorygeist
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > www. DiN. org. uk
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > www. musicamaximamagnetica. com
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > www. vu-us. com
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > --- On Wed, 6/2/10, York Luethje <ybl@> wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > From: York Luethje <ybl@>
> > > > > > > > Subject: AW: [Doepfer_a100] Newby Seeking Chaos
> > > > > > > > To: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com
> > > <mailto:Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > <Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > > > > <mailto:Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com
> > > <Doepfer_a100%2540yahoogroups.com>>
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Date: Wednesday, June 2, 2010, 11:08 AM
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
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> > > > > > > > Hi,
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Do you want the sounds to originate with your modular or do
> > > you want
> > > > > > to use
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > it more as a processing tool (e.g. for you drum machine)?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > In the latter case I suggest at least an A-119 to get sounds
> > > into
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > system.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > In addition, Doepfer and all the other manufacturers offer
> > > vast
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > possibilities for wrecking any sound; you really can't go
> > > wrong
> > > > > > there. Apart
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > from the various filters take a look at wave shapers (A-116,
> > > A-136),
> > > > > > wave
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > multipliers (A-137), the A-188 range of BBDs etc. And that's
> > > just
> > > > > > Doepfer.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > If you're not quite sure how to utilise your modular, the
> > > basic
> > > > > > system
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > provides a very good starting point. If you later find out
> > > that you
> > > > > > have no
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > use for certain modules, you can always sell them and get
> > > stuff that
> > > > > > suits
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > you more.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > The likely reason you hear so many old school demos is that
> > > the
> > > > > > people that
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > can afford a modular tend to be a bit older and grew up with
> > > prog
> > > > > > rock or
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > 80ies synth pop. There's no reason a modular synthesizer can't
> > > > > > produce
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > contemporary sounds, especially now that more and more digital
> > > > > > sounds
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > generators and processors are developed. Check out the new DSP
> > > > > > processor
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > from Doepfer, but also the Tip Top Audio and Harvestman range.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > One word of caution: People tend to go for the 'Sexy' modules,
> > > like
> > > > > > filters
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > and add utility modules only as an afterthought. After messing
> > > with
> > > > > > your
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > gear for a while you will probably find that you need more
> > > VCA's,
> > > > > > envelopes,
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > LFO's etc. The basic system also supplies you with a decent
> > > amount
> > > > > > of these.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Hope this helps,
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > York
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > _____
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Von: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com
> > > <mailto:Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > <Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > > > > <mailto:Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com
> > > <Doepfer_a100%2540yahoogroups.com>>
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > [mailto:Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com
> > > <mailto:Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > <Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > > > > <mailto:Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com
> > > <Doepfer_a100%2540yahoogroups.com>>
> > > > > > ] Im
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Auftrag von doof_per
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Gesendet: Mittwoch, 2. Juni 2010 03:41
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > An: doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com
> > > <mailto:doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > <doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > > > > <mailto:doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com
> > > <doepfer_a100%2540yahoogroups.com>>
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Betreff: [Doepfer_a100] Newby Seeking Chaos
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Hi Guys,
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Ive spent hours and hours and hours online checking out
> > > modular gear
> > > > > > and
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > (trying) to get my head around it all. For now, ive saved up
> > > enough
> > > > > > to get
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > an a100 Basic System2 and im hoping for the best! :)
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > What I wanted to know from anyone:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Im only after modular gear for the "alive" sounds ive heard
> > > from
> > > > > > other
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > peoples stuff (mainly Buchla TBH..love that sound!..But cant
> > > afford
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > one..anyways thats irrelevant)
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Im mainly into really distorted sounds, drum n bass,
> > > > > > mechanical/industrial
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > and love shaping sounds and spending hours on a sound to make
> > > it
> > > > > > right and
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > come "alive".
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Am I looking in the right place(Doepfer?) for my sound? Ive
> > > heard
> > > > > > allot of
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > the dopefer demos online and I guess the impression I get is
> > > rather
> > > > > > really
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > old school, simplistic and minimal/80's (Which I dont mind and
> > > love
> > > > > > in
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > certain instances)..But at the same time..Can I do more with
> > > it?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > What would someone recommend I get as a startup, to get this
> > > sound
> > > > > > im
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > after..Shall I go for a "sound design/shaping"a100 system..Or
> > > for a
> > > > > > "Basic
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > synth system"..I have read soo many links/seen youtube vids
> > > etc etc
> > > > > > but
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > really I wanted to hear it from the horses mouth, so to speak
> > > before
> > > > > > I make
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > my order.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Does anyone have a "sound rape a100" system they can offer
> > > advice
> > > > > > on? lol
> > > > > > > >
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> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Thanks for reading :)
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Re: Newby Seeking Chaos

2010-06-04 by doof_per

Been searching high and low for a euro rack chorus/phase/flange (specifically those type of effects)..But only seem to find "bread and butter" verb/pitch/delay/chorus/flange into one crammed unit.. Anyone know of real good quality units that beat software plugins?

Checked all the brands mentioned in this list: http://www.synthtopia.com/content/2009/01/31/eurorack-modular-synthesizers/

--- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, "doof_per" <doof_per@...> wrote:
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>
> Haha!
> 
> You have no idea mate... It wouldnt surprise me if they already exist.. All we need is a limited edition Doepfer bafana vuvuzela VCO & that would have covered the entire FIFA range of products.
> 
> --- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, <david.salter@> wrote:
> >
> > Behave ;o)
> > 
> > 
> > ...Bafana plugs ?
> > 
> > Sorry, couldn't resist... :-)
> > 
> > Best,
> > Julien
> > 
> > 
> > Le 3 juin 2010 à 20:41, york luethje a écrit :
> > 
> > > You're in South Africa? Good luck for Bafana Bafana in the next weeks!
> > > 
> > > ________________________________
> > > From: doof_per <doof_per@>
> > > To: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com
> > > Sent: Thursday, June 3, 2010 11:36:39
> > > Subject: [Doepfer_a100] Re: Newby Seeking Chaos
> > > 
> > > David & Richard - Good thought. I should just prob go for the "Dark Energy" standalone and be able to sell it as a unit when I get "tired" of it in the future as my module epxands, rather than sitting with the Euro Rack module (selling 2nd hand modular units in South Africa will be VERY difficult!)..Had a listen to the Plague Bearer demos..TBH it doesnt (personally speaking) tickle my fancy much..Very "Pedal" sounding if I may say? My current Metasonix TM7 & TM1 can handle those quite easily..But I appreciate the tip mate :)
> > > 
> > > Damage here we come!
> > > 
> > > Yeeeeha!!!!!!!
> > > 
> > > --- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, <david.salter@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > That looks like a nice set-up.
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > Question - do you mean Dark Energy or A111-5?
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > The dark Energy has a built in midi interface that provides CV & gate
> > > > out for other modules so I don't think the A190-2 is needed.
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > David
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
> > > > * * *
> > > > David Salter
> > > > Senior Consultant
> > > > 
> > > > SSG UKI
> > > > 
> > > > Thomson Reuters
> > > > 
> > > > O +44 (0)20 7542 2402X 52402
> > > > M 07990562402
> > > > 
> > > > david.salter@
> > > > thomsonreuters.com <http://thomsonreuters.com/> 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > P Please consider the environment before printing this e-mail 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > ________________________________
> > > > 
> > > > From: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com]
> > > > On Behalf Of doof_per
> > > > Sent: 03 June 2010 14:44
> > > > To: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com
> > > > Subject: [Doepfer_a100] Re: Newby Seeking Chaos
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > Wow.
> > > > 
> > > > The response & knowledge being shed is amazing. Thank you, I am very
> > > > grateful (David, York, Nick, Ernst & the others :)
> > > > 
> > > > So im really starting to understand this more and more by the click of
> > > > my mouse :)
> > > > 
> > > > Here is my updated list..I think this should cover it!?
> > > > 
> > > > Other Brands:
> > > > Geiger Counter 
> > > > B:assMaster 
> > > > Metasonix R53 
> > > > 
> > > > Doepfer:
> > > > A100P9 (case) 
> > > > A-143-1 Quad AD Generator 
> > > > A138-b log Mixer 
> > > > A-114 Ring Modulator 
> > > > A132-1 Dual VCA 
> > > > A119 input 
> > > > A137-1 & A137-2 Wave Multipliers, 
> > > > A106 Xtrene Filter
> > > > A-111-5 Dark Energy (Why the hell not!) 
> > > > A190-2 MIDI (For Dark Energy)
> > > > 
> > > > Can I make loud demonic noises yet pllllease?!?
> > > > 
> > > > --- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com
> > > > <mailto:Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com> , "doof_per" <doof_per@>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > Bakkis & Robert:
> > > > > Point noted and taken :)
> > > > > 
> > > > > Thanks guys, I will do just that :)
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > David:
> > > > > 
> > > > > "Add a mixer, a ring modulator and audio sources like VCO's and noise
> > > > if your not just processing external sounds."
> > > > > 
> > > > > - For now, I think i will be just doing external sound.
> > > > > 
> > > > > "Control comes from modulation; LFO's, Envelope generators and VCA's
> > > > and I promise you can never have enough of these."
> > > > > 
> > > > > - Would you not say that my list has that? Could you recommend any
> > > > essential units? Im already on 2100Euros on my current list :/ Maybe I
> > > > should rid of the bitcrusher and some "irrelevant" units (for now)
> > > > > 
> > > > > "It is very important to set a couple of goals you want to achieve,"
> > > > > 
> > > > > - I think my goal for my 1st startup kit, would be to be able to shape
> > > > & distort bass/synth lead sounds mainly.
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > --- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com
> > > > <mailto:Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com> , Robbert Jan Rink
> > > > <robbertrink@> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > And do check if you can afford the P9 case. It is only a small extra
> > > > amount
> > > > > > while it offers more flexibility in the future!
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Robbert
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > On Wed, Jun 2, 2010 at 1:51 PM, <david.salter@> wrote:
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > The list are modules for mashing sound, however you need to
> > > > control as
> > > > > > > well, even for the nastiest noise.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Control comes from modulation; LFO's, Envelope generators and
> > > > VCA's and
> > > > > > > I promise you can never have enough of these. Also sequencer is a
> > > > cool
> > > > > > > choice this can be done with the A160/161 and a mixer combination
> > > > or one
> > > > > > > of the many purpose built sequencers out there. These no only act
> > > > as
> > > > > > > note generators but CV generators, complex oscillators and more.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Add a mixer, a ring modulator and audio sources like VCO's and
> > > > noise if
> > > > > > > your not just processing external sounds.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > As I said modular has a habit of getting dangerously consuming.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > It is very important to set a couple of goals you want to achieve,
> > > > do
> > > > > > > some research and ask questions and build a small system (in a
> > > > largish
> > > > > > > case) to start with then expand as you develop.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > David
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
> > > > * * *
> > > > > > > * * *
> > > > > > > David Salter
> > > > > > > Senior Consultant
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > SSG UKI
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Thomson Reuters
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > O +44 (0)20 7542 2402X 52402
> > > > > > > M 07990562402
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > david.salter@ <david.salter%40thomsonreuters.com>
> > > > > > > thomsonreuters.com <http://thomsonreuters.com/>
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > P Please consider the environment before printing this e-mail
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > ________________________________
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > From: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com
> > > > <mailto:Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > > <Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com>[mailto:
> > > > > > > Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com
> > > > <mailto:Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > > <Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com>]
> > > > > > > On Behalf Of doof_per
> > > > > > > Sent: 02 June 2010 12:29
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > To: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com
> > > > <mailto:Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > > <Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > > > > > Subject: [Doepfer_a100] Re: Newby Seeking Chaos
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Whoa!
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > This is the quickest and nicest advice ive ever gotten. THANKS
> > > > GUYS!
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Thanks a million, everything is being noted & my head is spinning
> > > > a
> > > > > > > little although light is being shed and my ideas are getting
> > > > clearer!
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I think for now it would be best to just get the sound sources
> > > > from my
> > > > > > > DAW and use the modular as an effects/shaping/sound design tool. I
> > > > would
> > > > > > > probably go for modular sound source once I get my head around
> > > > which
> > > > > > > units/brand do what exaclty.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Here is my current ("interest") list (as far as I can understand
> > > > from
> > > > > > > reading/hearing the details of each unit specifically on the site)
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Others Brands:
> > > > > > > GeigerCounter(FnckYEAH!)
> > > > > > > B:assMaster (Euro Rack)
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Doepfer:
> > > > > > > A119input
> > > > > > > A100P6 (case)
> > > > > > > A124Wasp
> > > > > > > A-140 env1eope
> > > > > > > A-115audiodivider
> > > > > > > A-116waveshaper
> > > > > > > A-136distortion
> > > > > > > A-188 BBD
> > > > > > > A187-1
> > > > > > > A189-1 Bit Crusher,
> > > > > > > A137-1 Wave Multipliers
> > > > > > > A106 Xtrene Filter
> > > > > > > A113 Sub Harmonic Gen
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Very confused with what these are exactly/if I need them:
> > > > > > > * 1 x Trigger Divider A-160 ?
> > > > > > > * 1 x VC Waveform Processor A-116?
> > > > > > > * 1 x logarithmic VCA A-131?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I do actually own a TM7 Scrotum Smasher & TM1 & llooove them
> > > > dearly :)
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > So does the above list make sense to have a working/functioning
> > > > box of
> > > > > > > destruction? heehee :)
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I dont mind everything being mono as I usually prefer mono
> > > > anyways.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > You guys rock!!
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > --- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com
> > > > <mailto:Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > > <Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > > > > > <mailto:Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com
> > > > <Doepfer_a100%2540yahoogroups.com>>
> > > > > > > , "Carci" <francois.maxime@>
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Hi,
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > If you like Buchla, check the brand "Make noise", you'll
> > > > probably love
> > > > > > > their QMMG / MATHS combo.
> > > > > > > > The most extreme combo I've tried so far, for both processing
> > > > and raw
> > > > > > > sound generation was A136 distortion + A106 Xtreme filter +
> > > > Metasonix
> > > > > > > Scrotum smasher. Sounds go from plain powerful distortion to
> > > > unbearable
> > > > > > > noises and scratches and tube screaming.
> > > > > > > > The smasher is not a module but Metasonix now makes eurorack so
> > > > be
> > > > > > > sure to check their stuff, (especially if you like the sound on
> > > > the last
> > > > > > > NIN albums, it's full of it.)
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Modules like A188 BBD and A189 Bit crusher can be nasty if you
> > > > like
> > > > > > > digital noise.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > You look like you already have an idea of what sound you want to
> > > > > > > produce, basic systems are great but if you wanna add more
> > > > modules,
> > > > > > > you'll need more rackspace. So better have a look at which modules
> > > > you
> > > > > > > think you can live without in the basic system and replace them
> > > > with
> > > > > > > more specific modules. Trust me, the time you spend reading every
> > > > module
> > > > > > > user manual will help you a lot when you get your hands on your
> > > > system
> > > > > > > for the first time.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > --- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com
> > > > <mailto:Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > > <Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > > > > > <mailto:Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com
> > > > <Doepfer_a100%2540yahoogroups.com>>
> > > > > > > , Bakis Sirros
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > <synth_freak_2000@> wrote:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > all of this is true, but also get an A196 PLL module, for
> > > > weird and
> > > > > > > harsh noises.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Bakis Sirros - Parallel Worlds / Interconnected / Memory Geist
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > [Doepfer_a100] group owner
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > www. parallel - worlds - music. com
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > www. myspace. com/ parallelworldsmusic
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > www. myspace. com/ interconnectedmusic
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > www. myspace. com/ memorygeist
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > www. DiN. org. uk
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > www. musicamaximamagnetica. com
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > www. vu-us. com
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > --- On Wed, 6/2/10, York Luethje <ybl@> wrote:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > From: York Luethje <ybl@>
> > > > > > > > > Subject: AW: [Doepfer_a100] Newby Seeking Chaos
> > > > > > > > > To: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com
> > > > <mailto:Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > > <Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > > > > > <mailto:Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com
> > > > <Doepfer_a100%2540yahoogroups.com>>
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Date: Wednesday, June 2, 2010, 11:08 AM
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
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> > > > > > > > >
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> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Hi,
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Do you want the sounds to originate with your modular or do
> > > > you want
> > > > > > > to use
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > it more as a processing tool (e.g. for you drum machine)?
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > In the latter case I suggest at least an A-119 to get sounds
> > > > into
> > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > system.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > In addition, Doepfer and all the other manufacturers offer
> > > > vast
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > possibilities for wrecking any sound; you really can't go
> > > > wrong
> > > > > > > there. Apart
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > from the various filters take a look at wave shapers (A-116,
> > > > A-136),
> > > > > > > wave
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > multipliers (A-137), the A-188 range of BBDs etc. And that's
> > > > just
> > > > > > > Doepfer.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > If you're not quite sure how to utilise your modular, the
> > > > basic
> > > > > > > system
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > provides a very good starting point. If you later find out
> > > > that you
> > > > > > > have no
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > use for certain modules, you can always sell them and get
> > > > stuff that
> > > > > > > suits
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > you more.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > The likely reason you hear so many old school demos is that
> > > > the
> > > > > > > people that
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > can afford a modular tend to be a bit older and grew up with
> > > > prog
> > > > > > > rock or
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > 80ies synth pop. There's no reason a modular synthesizer can't
> > > > > > > produce
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > contemporary sounds, especially now that more and more digital
> > > > > > > sounds
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > generators and processors are developed. Check out the new DSP
> > > > > > > processor
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > from Doepfer, but also the Tip Top Audio and Harvestman range.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > One word of caution: People tend to go for the 'Sexy' modules,
> > > > like
> > > > > > > filters
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > and add utility modules only as an afterthought. After messing
> > > > with
> > > > > > > your
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > gear for a while you will probably find that you need more
> > > > VCA's,
> > > > > > > envelopes,
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > LFO's etc. The basic system also supplies you with a decent
> > > > amount
> > > > > > > of these.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Hope this helps,
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > York
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > _____
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Von: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com
> > > > <mailto:Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > > <Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > > > > > <mailto:Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com
> > > > <Doepfer_a100%2540yahoogroups.com>>
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > [mailto:Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com
> > > > <mailto:Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > > <Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > > > > > <mailto:Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com
> > > > <Doepfer_a100%2540yahoogroups.com>>
> > > > > > > ] Im
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Auftrag von doof_per
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Gesendet: Mittwoch, 2. Juni 2010 03:41
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > An: doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com
> > > > <mailto:doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > > <doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > > > > > <mailto:doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com
> > > > <doepfer_a100%2540yahoogroups.com>>
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Betreff: [Doepfer_a100] Newby Seeking Chaos
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Hi Guys,
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Ive spent hours and hours and hours online checking out
> > > > modular gear
> > > > > > > and
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > (trying) to get my head around it all. For now, ive saved up
> > > > enough
> > > > > > > to get
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > an a100 Basic System2 and im hoping for the best! :)
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > What I wanted to know from anyone:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Im only after modular gear for the "alive" sounds ive heard
> > > > from
> > > > > > > other
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > peoples stuff (mainly Buchla TBH..love that sound!..But cant
> > > > afford
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > one..anyways thats irrelevant)
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Im mainly into really distorted sounds, drum n bass,
> > > > > > > mechanical/industrial
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > and love shaping sounds and spending hours on a sound to make
> > > > it
> > > > > > > right and
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > come "alive".
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Am I looking in the right place(Doepfer?) for my sound? Ive
> > > > heard
> > > > > > > allot of
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > the dopefer demos online and I guess the impression I get is
> > > > rather
> > > > > > > really
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > old school, simplistic and minimal/80's (Which I dont mind and
> > > > love
> > > > > > > in
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > certain instances)..But at the same time..Can I do more with
> > > > it?
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > What would someone recommend I get as a startup, to get this
> > > > sound
> > > > > > > im
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > after..Shall I go for a "sound design/shaping"a100 system..Or
> > > > for a
> > > > > > > "Basic
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > synth system"..I have read soo many links/seen youtube vids
> > > > etc etc
> > > > > > > but
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > really I wanted to hear it from the horses mouth, so to speak
> > > > before
> > > > > > > I make
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > my order.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Does anyone have a "sound rape a100" system they can offer
> > > > advice
> > > > > > > on? lol
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Thanks for reading :)
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Re: [Doepfer_a100] Re: Newby Seeking Chaos

2010-06-04 by Julien Rabin

...Bafana plugs ?

Sorry, couldn't resist... :-)

Best,
Julien


Le 3 juin 2010 � 20:41, york luethje a �crit :

> You're in South Africa? Good luck for Bafana Bafana in the next weeks!
> 
> ________________________________
> From: doof_per <doof_per@yahoo.com>
> To: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Thursday, June 3, 2010 11:36:39
> Subject: [Doepfer_a100] Re: Newby Seeking Chaos
> 
> David & Richard - Good thought. I should just prob go for the "Dark Energy" standalone and be able to sell it as a unit when I get "tired" of it in the future as my module epxands, rather than sitting with the Euro Rack module (selling 2nd hand modular units in South Africa will be VERY difficult!)..Had a listen to the Plague Bearer demos..TBH it doesnt (personally speaking) tickle my fancy much..Very "Pedal" sounding if I may say? My current Metasonix TM7 & TM1 can handle those quite easily..But I appreciate the tip mate :)
> 
> Damage here we come!
> 
> Yeeeeha!!!!!!!
> 
> --- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, <david.salter@...> wrote:
> >
> > That looks like a nice set-up.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Question - do you mean Dark Energy or A111-5?
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > The dark Energy has a built in midi interface that provides CV & gate
> > out for other modules so I don't think the A190-2 is needed.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > David
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
> > * * *
> > David Salter
> > Senior Consultant
> > 
> > SSG UKI
> > 
> > Thomson Reuters
> > 
> > O +44 (0)20 7542 2402X 52402
> > M 07990562402
> > 
> > david.salter@...
> > thomsonreuters.com <http://thomsonreuters.com/> 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > P Please consider the environment before printing this e-mail 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > ________________________________
> > 
> > From: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com]
> > On Behalf Of doof_per
> > Sent: 03 June 2010 14:44
> > To: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: [Doepfer_a100] Re: Newby Seeking Chaos
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Wow.
> > 
> > The response & knowledge being shed is amazing. Thank you, I am very
> > grateful (David, York, Nick, Ernst & the others :)
> > 
> > So im really starting to understand this more and more by the click of
> > my mouse :)
> > 
> > Here is my updated list..I think this should cover it!?
> > 
> > Other Brands:
> > Geiger Counter 
> > B:assMaster 
> > Metasonix R53 
> > 
> > Doepfer:
> > A100P9 (case) 
> > A-143-1 Quad AD Generator 
> > A138-b log Mixer 
> > A-114 Ring Modulator 
> > A132-1 Dual VCA 
> > A119 input 
> > A137-1 & A137-2 Wave Multipliers, 
> > A106 Xtrene Filter
> > A-111-5 Dark Energy (Why the hell not!) 
> > A190-2 MIDI (For Dark Energy)
> > 
> > Can I make loud demonic noises yet pllllease?!?
> > 
> > --- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com
> > <mailto:Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com> , "doof_per" <doof_per@>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Bakkis & Robert:
> > > Point noted and taken :)
> > > 
> > > Thanks guys, I will do just that :)
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > David:
> > > 
> > > "Add a mixer, a ring modulator and audio sources like VCO's and noise
> > if your not just processing external sounds."
> > > 
> > > - For now, I think i will be just doing external sound.
> > > 
> > > "Control comes from modulation; LFO's, Envelope generators and VCA's
> > and I promise you can never have enough of these."
> > > 
> > > - Would you not say that my list has that? Could you recommend any
> > essential units? Im already on 2100Euros on my current list :/ Maybe I
> > should rid of the bitcrusher and some "irrelevant" units (for now)
> > > 
> > > "It is very important to set a couple of goals you want to achieve,"
> > > 
> > > - I think my goal for my 1st startup kit, would be to be able to shape
> > & distort bass/synth lead sounds mainly.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > --- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com
> > <mailto:Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com> , Robbert Jan Rink
> > <robbertrink@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > And do check if you can afford the P9 case. It is only a small extra
> > amount
> > > > while it offers more flexibility in the future!
> > > > 
> > > > Robbert
> > > > 
> > > > On Wed, Jun 2, 2010 at 1:51 PM, <david.salter@> wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > The list are modules for mashing sound, however you need to
> > control as
> > > > > well, even for the nastiest noise.
> > > > >
> > > > > Control comes from modulation; LFO's, Envelope generators and
> > VCA's and
> > > > > I promise you can never have enough of these. Also sequencer is a
> > cool
> > > > > choice this can be done with the A160/161 and a mixer combination
> > or one
> > > > > of the many purpose built sequencers out there. These no only act
> > as
> > > > > note generators but CV generators, complex oscillators and more.
> > > > >
> > > > > Add a mixer, a ring modulator and audio sources like VCO's and
> > noise if
> > > > > your not just processing external sounds.
> > > > >
> > > > > As I said modular has a habit of getting dangerously consuming.
> > > > >
> > > > > It is very important to set a couple of goals you want to achieve,
> > do
> > > > > some research and ask questions and build a small system (in a
> > largish
> > > > > case) to start with then expand as you develop.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > David
> > > > >
> > > > > * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
> > * * *
> > > > > * * *
> > > > > David Salter
> > > > > Senior Consultant
> > > > >
> > > > > SSG UKI
> > > > >
> > > > > Thomson Reuters
> > > > >
> > > > > O +44 (0)20 7542 2402X 52402
> > > > > M 07990562402
> > > > >
> > > > > david.salter@ <david.salter%40thomsonreuters.com>
> > > > > thomsonreuters.com <http://thomsonreuters.com/>
> > > > >
> > > > > P Please consider the environment before printing this e-mail
> > > > >
> > > > > ________________________________
> > > > >
> > > > > From: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com
> > <mailto:Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com>
> > <Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com>[mailto:
> > > > > Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com
> > <mailto:Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com>
> > <Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com>]
> > > > > On Behalf Of doof_per
> > > > > Sent: 02 June 2010 12:29
> > > > >
> > > > > To: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com
> > <mailto:Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com>
> > <Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > > > Subject: [Doepfer_a100] Re: Newby Seeking Chaos
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Whoa!
> > > > >
> > > > > This is the quickest and nicest advice ive ever gotten. THANKS
> > GUYS!
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks a million, everything is being noted & my head is spinning
> > a
> > > > > little although light is being shed and my ideas are getting
> > clearer!
> > > > >
> > > > > I think for now it would be best to just get the sound sources
> > from my
> > > > > DAW and use the modular as an effects/shaping/sound design tool. I
> > would
> > > > > probably go for modular sound source once I get my head around
> > which
> > > > > units/brand do what exaclty.
> > > > >
> > > > > Here is my current ("interest") list (as far as I can understand
> > from
> > > > > reading/hearing the details of each unit specifically on the site)
> > > > >
> > > > > Others Brands:
> > > > > GeigerCounter(FnckYEAH!)
> > > > > B:assMaster (Euro Rack)
> > > > >
> > > > > Doepfer:
> > > > > A119input
> > > > > A100P6 (case)
> > > > > A124Wasp
> > > > > A-140 env1eope
> > > > > A-115audiodivider
> > > > > A-116waveshaper
> > > > > A-136distortion
> > > > > A-188 BBD
> > > > > A187-1
> > > > > A189-1 Bit Crusher,
> > > > > A137-1 Wave Multipliers
> > > > > A106 Xtrene Filter
> > > > > A113 Sub Harmonic Gen
> > > > >
> > > > > Very confused with what these are exactly/if I need them:
> > > > > * 1 x Trigger Divider A-160 ?
> > > > > * 1 x VC Waveform Processor A-116?
> > > > > * 1 x logarithmic VCA A-131?
> > > > >
> > > > > I do actually own a TM7 Scrotum Smasher & TM1 & llooove them
> > dearly :)
> > > > >
> > > > > So does the above list make sense to have a working/functioning
> > box of
> > > > > destruction? heehee :)
> > > > >
> > > > > I dont mind everything being mono as I usually prefer mono
> > anyways.
> > > > >
> > > > > You guys rock!!
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com
> > <mailto:Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com>
> > <Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > > > <mailto:Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com
> > <Doepfer_a100%2540yahoogroups.com>>
> > > > > , "Carci" <francois.maxime@>
> > > > >
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Hi,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > If you like Buchla, check the brand "Make noise", you'll
> > probably love
> > > > > their QMMG / MATHS combo.
> > > > > > The most extreme combo I've tried so far, for both processing
> > and raw
> > > > > sound generation was A136 distortion + A106 Xtreme filter +
> > Metasonix
> > > > > Scrotum smasher. Sounds go from plain powerful distortion to
> > unbearable
> > > > > noises and scratches and tube screaming.
> > > > > > The smasher is not a module but Metasonix now makes eurorack so
> > be
> > > > > sure to check their stuff, (especially if you like the sound on
> > the last
> > > > > NIN albums, it's full of it.)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Modules like A188 BBD and A189 Bit crusher can be nasty if you
> > like
> > > > > digital noise.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > You look like you already have an idea of what sound you want to
> > > > > produce, basic systems are great but if you wanna add more
> > modules,
> > > > > you'll need more rackspace. So better have a look at which modules
> > you
> > > > > think you can live without in the basic system and replace them
> > with
> > > > > more specific modules. Trust me, the time you spend reading every
> > module
> > > > > user manual will help you a lot when you get your hands on your
> > system
> > > > > for the first time.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com
> > <mailto:Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com>
> > <Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > > > <mailto:Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com
> > <Doepfer_a100%2540yahoogroups.com>>
> > > > > , Bakis Sirros
> > > > >
> > > > > <synth_freak_2000@> wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > all of this is true, but also get an A196 PLL module, for
> > weird and
> > > > > harsh noises.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Bakis Sirros - Parallel Worlds / Interconnected / Memory Geist
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > [Doepfer_a100] group owner
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > www. parallel - worlds - music. com
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > www. myspace. com/ parallelworldsmusic
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > www. myspace. com/ interconnectedmusic
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > www. myspace. com/ memorygeist
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > www. DiN. org. uk
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > www. musicamaximamagnetica. com
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > www. vu-us. com
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > --- On Wed, 6/2/10, York Luethje <ybl@> wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > From: York Luethje <ybl@>
> > > > > > > Subject: AW: [Doepfer_a100] Newby Seeking Chaos
> > > > > > > To: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com
> > <mailto:Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com>
> > <Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > > > <mailto:Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com
> > <Doepfer_a100%2540yahoogroups.com>>
> > > > >
> > > > > > > Date: Wednesday, June 2, 2010, 11:08 AM
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Hi,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Do you want the sounds to originate with your modular or do
> > you want
> > > > > to use
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > it more as a processing tool (e.g. for you drum machine)?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > In the latter case I suggest at least an A-119 to get sounds
> > into
> > > > > the
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > system.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > In addition, Doepfer and all the other manufacturers offer
> > vast
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > possibilities for wrecking any sound; you really can't go
> > wrong
> > > > > there. Apart
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > from the various filters take a look at wave shapers (A-116,
> > A-136),
> > > > > wave
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > multipliers (A-137), the A-188 range of BBDs etc. And that's
> > just
> > > > > Doepfer.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > If you're not quite sure how to utilise your modular, the
> > basic
> > > > > system
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > provides a very good starting point. If you later find out
> > that you
> > > > > have no
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > use for certain modules, you can always sell them and get
> > stuff that
> > > > > suits
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > you more.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > The likely reason you hear so many old school demos is that
> > the
> > > > > people that
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > can afford a modular tend to be a bit older and grew up with
> > prog
> > > > > rock or
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > 80ies synth pop. There's no reason a modular synthesizer can't
> > > > > produce
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > contemporary sounds, especially now that more and more digital
> > > > > sounds
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > generators and processors are developed. Check out the new DSP
> > > > > processor
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > from Doepfer, but also the Tip Top Audio and Harvestman range.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > One word of caution: People tend to go for the 'Sexy' modules,
> > like
> > > > > filters
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > and add utility modules only as an afterthought. After messing
> > with
> > > > > your
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > gear for a while you will probably find that you need more
> > VCA's,
> > > > > envelopes,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > LFO's etc. The basic system also supplies you with a decent
> > amount
> > > > > of these.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Hope this helps,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > York
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > _____
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Von: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com
> > <mailto:Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com>
> > <Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > > > <mailto:Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com
> > <Doepfer_a100%2540yahoogroups.com>>
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > [mailto:Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com
> > <mailto:Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com>
> > <Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > > > <mailto:Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com
> > <Doepfer_a100%2540yahoogroups.com>>
> > > > > ] Im
> > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Auftrag von doof_per
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Gesendet: Mittwoch, 2. Juni 2010 03:41
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > An: doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com
> > <mailto:doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com>
> > <doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > > > <mailto:doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com
> > <doepfer_a100%2540yahoogroups.com>>
> > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Betreff: [Doepfer_a100] Newby Seeking Chaos
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Hi Guys,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Ive spent hours and hours and hours online checking out
> > modular gear
> > > > > and
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > (trying) to get my head around it all. For now, ive saved up
> > enough
> > > > > to get
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > an a100 Basic System2 and im hoping for the best! :)
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > What I wanted to know from anyone:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Im only after modular gear for the "alive" sounds ive heard
> > from
> > > > > other
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > peoples stuff (mainly Buchla TBH..love that sound!..But cant
> > afford
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > one..anyways thats irrelevant)
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Im mainly into really distorted sounds, drum n bass,
> > > > > mechanical/industrial
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > and love shaping sounds and spending hours on a sound to make
> > it
> > > > > right and
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > come "alive".
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Am I looking in the right place(Doepfer?) for my sound? Ive
> > heard
> > > > > allot of
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > the dopefer demos online and I guess the impression I get is
> > rather
> > > > > really
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > old school, simplistic and minimal/80's (Which I dont mind and
> > love
> > > > > in
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > certain instances)..But at the same time..Can I do more with
> > it?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > What would someone recommend I get as a startup, to get this
> > sound
> > > > > im
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > after..Shall I go for a "sound design/shaping"a100 system..Or
> > for a
> > > > > "Basic
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > synth system"..I have read soo many links/seen youtube vids
> > etc etc
> > > > > but
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > really I wanted to hear it from the horses mouth, so to speak
> > before
> > > > > I make
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > my order.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Does anyone have a "sound rape a100" system they can offer
> > advice
> > > > > on? lol
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Thanks for reading :)
> > > > > > >
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RE: [Doepfer_a100] Re: Newby Seeking Chaos

2010-06-04 by david.salter@thomsonreuters.com

Behave ;o)


...Bafana plugs ?

Sorry, couldn't resist... :-)

Best,
Julien


Le 3 juin 2010 à 20:41, york luethje a écrit :

> You're in South Africa? Good luck for Bafana Bafana in the next weeks!
> 
> ________________________________
> From: doof_per <doof_per@yahoo.com>
> To: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Thursday, June 3, 2010 11:36:39
> Subject: [Doepfer_a100] Re: Newby Seeking Chaos
> 
> David & Richard - Good thought. I should just prob go for the "Dark Energy" standalone and be able to sell it as a unit when I get "tired" of it in the future as my module epxands, rather than sitting with the Euro Rack module (selling 2nd hand modular units in South Africa will be VERY difficult!)..Had a listen to the Plague Bearer demos..TBH it doesnt (personally speaking) tickle my fancy much..Very "Pedal" sounding if I may say? My current Metasonix TM7 & TM1 can handle those quite easily..But I appreciate the tip mate :)
> 
> Damage here we come!
> 
> Yeeeeha!!!!!!!
> 
> --- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, <david.salter@...> wrote:
> >
> > That looks like a nice set-up.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Question - do you mean Dark Energy or A111-5?
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > The dark Energy has a built in midi interface that provides CV & gate
> > out for other modules so I don't think the A190-2 is needed.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > David
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
> > * * *
> > David Salter
> > Senior Consultant
> > 
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> > 
> > 
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> > 
> > 
> > 
> > ________________________________
> > 
> > From: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com]
> > On Behalf Of doof_per
> > Sent: 03 June 2010 14:44
> > To: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: [Doepfer_a100] Re: Newby Seeking Chaos
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Wow.
> > 
> > The response & knowledge being shed is amazing. Thank you, I am very
> > grateful (David, York, Nick, Ernst & the others :)
> > 
> > So im really starting to understand this more and more by the click of
> > my mouse :)
> > 
> > Here is my updated list..I think this should cover it!?
> > 
> > Other Brands:
> > Geiger Counter 
> > B:assMaster 
> > Metasonix R53 
> > 
> > Doepfer:
> > A100P9 (case) 
> > A-143-1 Quad AD Generator 
> > A138-b log Mixer 
> > A-114 Ring Modulator 
> > A132-1 Dual VCA 
> > A119 input 
> > A137-1 & A137-2 Wave Multipliers, 
> > A106 Xtrene Filter
> > A-111-5 Dark Energy (Why the hell not!) 
> > A190-2 MIDI (For Dark Energy)
> > 
> > Can I make loud demonic noises yet pllllease?!?
> > 
> > --- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com
> > <mailto:Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com> , "doof_per" <doof_per@>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Bakkis & Robert:
> > > Point noted and taken :)
> > > 
> > > Thanks guys, I will do just that :)
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > David:
> > > 
> > > "Add a mixer, a ring modulator and audio sources like VCO's and noise
> > if your not just processing external sounds."
> > > 
> > > - For now, I think i will be just doing external sound.
> > > 
> > > "Control comes from modulation; LFO's, Envelope generators and VCA's
> > and I promise you can never have enough of these."
> > > 
> > > - Would you not say that my list has that? Could you recommend any
> > essential units? Im already on 2100Euros on my current list :/ Maybe I
> > should rid of the bitcrusher and some "irrelevant" units (for now)
> > > 
> > > "It is very important to set a couple of goals you want to achieve,"
> > > 
> > > - I think my goal for my 1st startup kit, would be to be able to shape
> > & distort bass/synth lead sounds mainly.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > --- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com
> > <mailto:Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com> , Robbert Jan Rink
> > <robbertrink@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > And do check if you can afford the P9 case. It is only a small extra
> > amount
> > > > while it offers more flexibility in the future!
> > > > 
> > > > Robbert
> > > > 
> > > > On Wed, Jun 2, 2010 at 1:51 PM, <david.salter@> wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > The list are modules for mashing sound, however you need to
> > control as
> > > > > well, even for the nastiest noise.
> > > > >
> > > > > Control comes from modulation; LFO's, Envelope generators and
> > VCA's and
> > > > > I promise you can never have enough of these. Also sequencer is a
> > cool
> > > > > choice this can be done with the A160/161 and a mixer combination
> > or one
> > > > > of the many purpose built sequencers out there. These no only act
> > as
> > > > > note generators but CV generators, complex oscillators and more.
> > > > >
> > > > > Add a mixer, a ring modulator and audio sources like VCO's and
> > noise if
> > > > > your not just processing external sounds.
> > > > >
> > > > > As I said modular has a habit of getting dangerously consuming.
> > > > >
> > > > > It is very important to set a couple of goals you want to achieve,
> > do
> > > > > some research and ask questions and build a small system (in a
> > largish
> > > > > case) to start with then expand as you develop.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > David
> > > > >
> > > > > * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
> > * * *
> > > > > * * *
> > > > > David Salter
> > > > > Senior Consultant
> > > > >
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> > > > > ________________________________
> > > > >
> > > > > From: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com
> > <mailto:Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com>
> > <Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com>[mailto:
> > > > > Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com
> > <mailto:Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com>
> > <Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com>]
> > > > > On Behalf Of doof_per
> > > > > Sent: 02 June 2010 12:29
> > > > >
> > > > > To: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com
> > <mailto:Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com>
> > <Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > > > Subject: [Doepfer_a100] Re: Newby Seeking Chaos
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Whoa!
> > > > >
> > > > > This is the quickest and nicest advice ive ever gotten. THANKS
> > GUYS!
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks a million, everything is being noted & my head is spinning
> > a
> > > > > little although light is being shed and my ideas are getting
> > clearer!
> > > > >
> > > > > I think for now it would be best to just get the sound sources
> > from my
> > > > > DAW and use the modular as an effects/shaping/sound design tool. I
> > would
> > > > > probably go for modular sound source once I get my head around
> > which
> > > > > units/brand do what exaclty.
> > > > >
> > > > > Here is my current ("interest") list (as far as I can understand
> > from
> > > > > reading/hearing the details of each unit specifically on the site)
> > > > >
> > > > > Others Brands:
> > > > > GeigerCounter(FnckYEAH!)
> > > > > B:assMaster (Euro Rack)
> > > > >
> > > > > Doepfer:
> > > > > A119input
> > > > > A100P6 (case)
> > > > > A124Wasp
> > > > > A-140 env1eope
> > > > > A-115audiodivider
> > > > > A-116waveshaper
> > > > > A-136distortion
> > > > > A-188 BBD
> > > > > A187-1
> > > > > A189-1 Bit Crusher,
> > > > > A137-1 Wave Multipliers
> > > > > A106 Xtrene Filter
> > > > > A113 Sub Harmonic Gen
> > > > >
> > > > > Very confused with what these are exactly/if I need them:
> > > > > * 1 x Trigger Divider A-160 ?
> > > > > * 1 x VC Waveform Processor A-116?
> > > > > * 1 x logarithmic VCA A-131?
> > > > >
> > > > > I do actually own a TM7 Scrotum Smasher & TM1 & llooove them
> > dearly :)
> > > > >
> > > > > So does the above list make sense to have a working/functioning
> > box of
> > > > > destruction? heehee :)
> > > > >
> > > > > I dont mind everything being mono as I usually prefer mono
> > anyways.
> > > > >
> > > > > You guys rock!!
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com
> > <mailto:Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com>
> > <Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > > > <mailto:Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com
> > <Doepfer_a100%2540yahoogroups.com>>
> > > > > , "Carci" <francois.maxime@>
> > > > >
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Hi,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > If you like Buchla, check the brand "Make noise", you'll
> > probably love
> > > > > their QMMG / MATHS combo.
> > > > > > The most extreme combo I've tried so far, for both processing
> > and raw
> > > > > sound generation was A136 distortion + A106 Xtreme filter +
> > Metasonix
> > > > > Scrotum smasher. Sounds go from plain powerful distortion to
> > unbearable
> > > > > noises and scratches and tube screaming.
> > > > > > The smasher is not a module but Metasonix now makes eurorack so
> > be
> > > > > sure to check their stuff, (especially if you like the sound on
> > the last
> > > > > NIN albums, it's full of it.)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Modules like A188 BBD and A189 Bit crusher can be nasty if you
> > like
> > > > > digital noise.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > You look like you already have an idea of what sound you want to
> > > > > produce, basic systems are great but if you wanna add more
> > modules,
> > > > > you'll need more rackspace. So better have a look at which modules
> > you
> > > > > think you can live without in the basic system and replace them
> > with
> > > > > more specific modules. Trust me, the time you spend reading every
> > module
> > > > > user manual will help you a lot when you get your hands on your
> > system
> > > > > for the first time.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com
> > <mailto:Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com>
> > <Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > > > <mailto:Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com
> > <Doepfer_a100%2540yahoogroups.com>>
> > > > > , Bakis Sirros
> > > > >
> > > > > <synth_freak_2000@> wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > all of this is true, but also get an A196 PLL module, for
> > weird and
> > > > > harsh noises.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Bakis Sirros - Parallel Worlds / Interconnected / Memory Geist
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > [Doepfer_a100] group owner
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > www. parallel - worlds - music. com
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > www. myspace. com/ parallelworldsmusic
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > www. myspace. com/ interconnectedmusic
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > www. myspace. com/ memorygeist
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > www. DiN. org. uk
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > www. musicamaximamagnetica. com
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > www. vu-us. com
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > --- On Wed, 6/2/10, York Luethje <ybl@> wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > From: York Luethje <ybl@>
> > > > > > > Subject: AW: [Doepfer_a100] Newby Seeking Chaos
> > > > > > > To: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com
> > <mailto:Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com>
> > <Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > > > <mailto:Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com
> > <Doepfer_a100%2540yahoogroups.com>>
> > > > >
> > > > > > > Date: Wednesday, June 2, 2010, 11:08 AM
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Hi,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Do you want the sounds to originate with your modular or do
> > you want
> > > > > to use
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > it more as a processing tool (e.g. for you drum machine)?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > In the latter case I suggest at least an A-119 to get sounds
> > into
> > > > > the
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > system.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > In addition, Doepfer and all the other manufacturers offer
> > vast
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > possibilities for wrecking any sound; you really can't go
> > wrong
> > > > > there. Apart
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > from the various filters take a look at wave shapers (A-116,
> > A-136),
> > > > > wave
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > multipliers (A-137), the A-188 range of BBDs etc. And that's
> > just
> > > > > Doepfer.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > If you're not quite sure how to utilise your modular, the
> > basic
> > > > > system
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > provides a very good starting point. If you later find out
> > that you
> > > > > have no
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > use for certain modules, you can always sell them and get
> > stuff that
> > > > > suits
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > you more.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > The likely reason you hear so many old school demos is that
> > the
> > > > > people that
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > can afford a modular tend to be a bit older and grew up with
> > prog
> > > > > rock or
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > 80ies synth pop. There's no reason a modular synthesizer can't
> > > > > produce
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > contemporary sounds, especially now that more and more digital
> > > > > sounds
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > generators and processors are developed. Check out the new DSP
> > > > > processor
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > from Doepfer, but also the Tip Top Audio and Harvestman range.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > One word of caution: People tend to go for the 'Sexy' modules,
> > like
> > > > > filters
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > and add utility modules only as an afterthought. After messing
> > with
> > > > > your
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > gear for a while you will probably find that you need more
> > VCA's,
> > > > > envelopes,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > LFO's etc. The basic system also supplies you with a decent
> > amount
> > > > > of these.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Hope this helps,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > York
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > _____
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Von: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com
> > <mailto:Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com>
> > <Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > > > <mailto:Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com
> > <Doepfer_a100%2540yahoogroups.com>>
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > [mailto:Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com
> > <mailto:Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com>
> > <Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > > > <mailto:Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com
> > <Doepfer_a100%2540yahoogroups.com>>
> > > > > ] Im
> > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Auftrag von doof_per
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Gesendet: Mittwoch, 2. Juni 2010 03:41
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > An: doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com
> > <mailto:doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com>
> > <doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > > > <mailto:doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com
> > <doepfer_a100%2540yahoogroups.com>>
> > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Betreff: [Doepfer_a100] Newby Seeking Chaos
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Hi Guys,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Ive spent hours and hours and hours online checking out
> > modular gear
> > > > > and
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > (trying) to get my head around it all. For now, ive saved up
> > enough
> > > > > to get
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > an a100 Basic System2 and im hoping for the best! :)
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > What I wanted to know from anyone:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Im only after modular gear for the "alive" sounds ive heard
> > from
> > > > > other
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > peoples stuff (mainly Buchla TBH..love that sound!..But cant
> > afford
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > one..anyways thats irrelevant)
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Im mainly into really distorted sounds, drum n bass,
> > > > > mechanical/industrial
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > and love shaping sounds and spending hours on a sound to make
> > it
> > > > > right and
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > come "alive".
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Am I looking in the right place(Doepfer?) for my sound? Ive
> > heard
> > > > > allot of
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > the dopefer demos online and I guess the impression I get is
> > rather
> > > > > really
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > old school, simplistic and minimal/80's (Which I dont mind and
> > love
> > > > > in
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > certain instances)..But at the same time..Can I do more with
> > it?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > What would someone recommend I get as a startup, to get this
> > sound
> > > > > im
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > after..Shall I go for a "sound design/shaping"a100 system..Or
> > for a
> > > > > "Basic
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > synth system"..I have read soo many links/seen youtube vids
> > etc etc
> > > > > but
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > really I wanted to hear it from the horses mouth, so to speak
> > before
> > > > > I make
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > my order.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Does anyone have a "sound rape a100" system they can offer
> > advice
> > > > > on? lol
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Thanks for reading :)
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AW: [Doepfer_a100] Re: Newby Seeking Chaos

2010-06-04 by York Luethje

Depending on how many stages your BBD uses it can do phasing, dunno about
‚beating plugins’ though. The 101-3 is based on vactrols and really
intricate, haven’t tried it, so no idea about sound.  Both the Doepfer and
Tip Top DSPs should give you decent time-based effects. One module that I
really like is the Stilton Adaptor from The Harvestman, which allows you to
easily feed pedal effects into the modular signal chain. The only drawback
is that you loose voltage control over the effects.  

 

Another interesting device is the 4 Phase Modulator (PH 4) by Cwejman. Or
try the SPH-2. Looks very intricate, again no personal experience. Cwejman
has a very good reputation, with prices to match, sadly. 

 

  _____  

Von: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com] Im
Auftrag von doof_per
Gesendet: Freitag, 4. Juni 2010 04:47
An: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com
Betreff: [Doepfer_a100] Re: Newby Seeking Chaos

 

  

Been searching high and low for a euro rack chorus/phase/flange
(specifically those type of effects)..But only seem to find "bread and
butter" verb/pitch/delay/chorus/flange into one crammed unit.. Anyone know
of real good quality units that beat software plugins?

Checked all the brands mentioned in this list:
http://www.synthtopia.com/content/2009/01/31/eurorack-modular-synthesizers/

--- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com <mailto:Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com>
, "doof_per" <doof_per@...> wrote:
>
> Haha!
> 
> You have no idea mate... It wouldnt surprise me if they already exist..
All we need is a limited edition Doepfer bafana vuvuzela VCO & that would
have covered the entire FIFA range of products.
> 
> --- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com
<mailto:Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com> , <david.salter@> wrote:
> >
> > Behave ;o)
> > 
> > 
> > ...Bafana plugs ?
> > 
> > Sorry, couldn't resist... :-)
> > 
> > Best,
> > Julien
> > 
> > 
> > Le 3 juin 2010 à 20:41, york luethje a écrit :
> > 
> > > You're in South Africa? Good luck for Bafana Bafana in the next weeks!
> > > 
> > > ________________________________
> > > From: doof_per <doof_per@>
> > > To: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com
<mailto:Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com> 
> > > Sent: Thursday, June 3, 2010 11:36:39
> > > Subject: [Doepfer_a100] Re: Newby Seeking Chaos
> > > 
> > > David & Richard - Good thought. I should just prob go for the "Dark
Energy" standalone and be able to sell it as a unit when I get "tired" of it
in the future as my module epxands, rather than sitting with the Euro Rack
module (selling 2nd hand modular units in South Africa will be VERY
difficult!)..Had a listen to the Plague Bearer demos..TBH it doesnt
(personally speaking) tickle my fancy much..Very "Pedal" sounding if I may
say? My current Metasonix TM7 & TM1 can handle those quite easily..But I
appreciate the tip mate :)
> > > 
> > > Damage here we come!
> > > 
> > > Yeeeeha!!!!!!!
> > > 
> > > --- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com
<mailto:Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com> , <david.salter@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > That looks like a nice set-up.
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > Question - do you mean Dark Energy or A111-5?
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > The dark Energy has a built in midi interface that provides CV &
gate
> > > > out for other modules so I don't think the A190-2 is needed.
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > David
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
* *
> > > > * * *
> > > > David Salter
> > > > Senior Consultant
> > > > 
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> > > > 
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> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
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> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
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> > > > 
> > > > From: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com
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[mailto:Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com <mailto:Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com>
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> > > > On Behalf Of doof_per
> > > > Sent: 03 June 2010 14:44
> > > > To: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com
<mailto:Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com> 
> > > > Subject: [Doepfer_a100] Re: Newby Seeking Chaos
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > Wow.
> > > > 
> > > > The response & knowledge being shed is amazing. Thank you, I am very
> > > > grateful (David, York, Nick, Ernst & the others :)
> > > > 
> > > > So im really starting to understand this more and more by the click
of
> > > > my mouse :)
> > > > 
> > > > Here is my updated list..I think this should cover it!?
> > > > 
> > > > Other Brands:
> > > > Geiger Counter 
> > > > B:assMaster 
> > > > Metasonix R53 
> > > > 
> > > > Doepfer:
> > > > A100P9 (case) 
> > > > A-143-1 Quad AD Generator 
> > > > A138-b log Mixer 
> > > > A-114 Ring Modulator 
> > > > A132-1 Dual VCA 
> > > > A119 input 
> > > > A137-1 & A137-2 Wave Multipliers, 
> > > > A106 Xtrene Filter
> > > > A-111-5 Dark Energy (Why the hell not!) 
> > > > A190-2 MIDI (For Dark Energy)
> > > > 
> > > > Can I make loud demonic noises yet pllllease?!?
> > > > 
> > > > --- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com
<mailto:Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com> 
> > > > <mailto:Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com> , "doof_per" <doof_per@>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > Bakkis & Robert:
> > > > > Point noted and taken :)
> > > > > 
> > > > > Thanks guys, I will do just that :)
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > David:
> > > > > 
> > > > > "Add a mixer, a ring modulator and audio sources like VCO's and
noise
> > > > if your not just processing external sounds."
> > > > > 
> > > > > - For now, I think i will be just doing external sound.
> > > > > 
> > > > > "Control comes from modulation; LFO's, Envelope generators and
VCA's
> > > > and I promise you can never have enough of these."
> > > > > 
> > > > > - Would you not say that my list has that? Could you recommend any
> > > > essential units? Im already on 2100Euros on my current list :/ Maybe
I
> > > > should rid of the bitcrusher and some "irrelevant" units (for now)
> > > > > 
> > > > > "It is very important to set a couple of goals you want to
achieve,"
> > > > > 
> > > > > - I think my goal for my 1st startup kit, would be to be able to
shape
> > > > & distort bass/synth lead sounds mainly.
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > --- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com
<mailto:Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com> 
> > > > <mailto:Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com> , Robbert Jan Rink
> > > > <robbertrink@> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > And do check if you can afford the P9 case. It is only a small
extra
> > > > amount
> > > > > > while it offers more flexibility in the future!
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Robbert
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > On Wed, Jun 2, 2010 at 1:51 PM, <david.salter@> wrote:
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > The list are modules for mashing sound, however you need to
> > > > control as
> > > > > > > well, even for the nastiest noise.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Control comes from modulation; LFO's, Envelope generators and
> > > > VCA's and
> > > > > > > I promise you can never have enough of these. Also sequencer
is a
> > > > cool
> > > > > > > choice this can be done with the A160/161 and a mixer
combination
> > > > or one
> > > > > > > of the many purpose built sequencers out there. These no only
act
> > > > as
> > > > > > > note generators but CV generators, complex oscillators and
more.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Add a mixer, a ring modulator and audio sources like VCO's and
> > > > noise if
> > > > > > > your not just processing external sounds.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > As I said modular has a habit of getting dangerously
consuming.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > It is very important to set a couple of goals you want to
achieve,
> > > > do
> > > > > > > some research and ask questions and build a small system (in a
> > > > largish
> > > > > > > case) to start with then expand as you develop.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > David
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
* *
> > > > * * *
> > > > > > > * * *
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> > > > <Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com>]
> > > > > > > On Behalf Of doof_per
> > > > > > > Sent: 02 June 2010 12:29
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > To: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com
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> > > > <mailto:Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > > <Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > > > > > Subject: [Doepfer_a100] Re: Newby Seeking Chaos
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Whoa!
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > This is the quickest and nicest advice ive ever gotten. THANKS
> > > > GUYS!
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Thanks a million, everything is being noted & my head is
spinning
> > > > a
> > > > > > > little although light is being shed and my ideas are getting
> > > > clearer!
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I think for now it would be best to just get the sound sources
> > > > from my
> > > > > > > DAW and use the modular as an effects/shaping/sound design
tool. I
> > > > would
> > > > > > > probably go for modular sound source once I get my head around
> > > > which
> > > > > > > units/brand do what exaclty.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Here is my current ("interest") list (as far as I can
understand
> > > > from
> > > > > > > reading/hearing the details of each unit specifically on the
site)
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Others Brands:
> > > > > > > GeigerCounter(FnckYEAH!)
> > > > > > > B:assMaster (Euro Rack)
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Doepfer:
> > > > > > > A119input
> > > > > > > A100P6 (case)
> > > > > > > A124Wasp
> > > > > > > A-140 env1eope
> > > > > > > A-115audiodivider
> > > > > > > A-116waveshaper
> > > > > > > A-136distortion
> > > > > > > A-188 BBD
> > > > > > > A187-1
> > > > > > > A189-1 Bit Crusher,
> > > > > > > A137-1 Wave Multipliers
> > > > > > > A106 Xtrene Filter
> > > > > > > A113 Sub Harmonic Gen
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Very confused with what these are exactly/if I need them:
> > > > > > > * 1 x Trigger Divider A-160 ?
> > > > > > > * 1 x VC Waveform Processor A-116?
> > > > > > > * 1 x logarithmic VCA A-131?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I do actually own a TM7 Scrotum Smasher & TM1 & llooove them
> > > > dearly :)
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > So does the above list make sense to have a
working/functioning
> > > > box of
> > > > > > > destruction? heehee :)
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I dont mind everything being mono as I usually prefer mono
> > > > anyways.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > You guys rock!!
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > --- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com
<mailto:Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com> 
> > > > <mailto:Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > > <Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > > > > > <mailto:Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com
> > > > <Doepfer_a100%2540yahoogroups.com>>
> > > > > > > , "Carci" <francois.maxime@>
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Hi,
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > If you like Buchla, check the brand "Make noise", you'll
> > > > probably love
> > > > > > > their QMMG / MATHS combo.
> > > > > > > > The most extreme combo I've tried so far, for both
processing
> > > > and raw
> > > > > > > sound generation was A136 distortion + A106 Xtreme filter +
> > > > Metasonix
> > > > > > > Scrotum smasher. Sounds go from plain powerful distortion to
> > > > unbearable
> > > > > > > noises and scratches and tube screaming.
> > > > > > > > The smasher is not a module but Metasonix now makes eurorack
so
> > > > be
> > > > > > > sure to check their stuff, (especially if you like the sound
on
> > > > the last
> > > > > > > NIN albums, it's full of it.)
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Modules like A188 BBD and A189 Bit crusher can be nasty if
you
> > > > like
> > > > > > > digital noise.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > You look like you already have an idea of what sound you
want to
> > > > > > > produce, basic systems are great but if you wanna add more
> > > > modules,
> > > > > > > you'll need more rackspace. So better have a look at which
modules
> > > > you
> > > > > > > think you can live without in the basic system and replace
them
> > > > with
> > > > > > > more specific modules. Trust me, the time you spend reading
every
> > > > module
> > > > > > > user manual will help you a lot when you get your hands on
your
> > > > system
> > > > > > > for the first time.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > --- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com
<mailto:Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com> 
> > > > <mailto:Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > > <Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > > > > > <mailto:Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com
> > > > <Doepfer_a100%2540yahoogroups.com>>
> > > > > > > , Bakis Sirros
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > <synth_freak_2000@> wrote:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > all of this is true, but also get an A196 PLL module, for
> > > > weird and
> > > > > > > harsh noises.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Bakis Sirros - Parallel Worlds / Interconnected / Memory
Geist
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > [Doepfer_a100] group owner
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > www. parallel - worlds - music. com
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > www. myspace. com/ parallelworldsmusic
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > www. myspace. com/ interconnectedmusic
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > www. myspace. com/ memorygeist
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > www. DiN. org. uk
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > www. musicamaximamagnetica. com
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > www. vu-us. com
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > --- On Wed, 6/2/10, York Luethje <ybl@> wrote:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > From: York Luethje <ybl@>
> > > > > > > > > Subject: AW: [Doepfer_a100] Newby Seeking Chaos
> > > > > > > > > To: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com
<mailto:Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com> 
> > > > <mailto:Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > > <Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > > > > > <mailto:Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com
> > > > <Doepfer_a100%2540yahoogroups.com>>
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Date: Wednesday, June 2, 2010, 11:08 AM
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Hi,
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Do you want the sounds to originate with your modular or
do
> > > > you want
> > > > > > > to use
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > it more as a processing tool (e.g. for you drum machine)?
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > In the latter case I suggest at least an A-119 to get
sounds
> > > > into
> > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > system.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > In addition, Doepfer and all the other manufacturers offer
> > > > vast
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > possibilities for wrecking any sound; you really can't go
> > > > wrong
> > > > > > > there. Apart
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > from the various filters take a look at wave shapers
(A-116,
> > > > A-136),
> > > > > > > wave
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > multipliers (A-137), the A-188 range of BBDs etc. And
that's
> > > > just
> > > > > > > Doepfer.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > If you're not quite sure how to utilise your modular, the
> > > > basic
> > > > > > > system
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > provides a very good starting point. If you later find out
> > > > that you
> > > > > > > have no
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > use for certain modules, you can always sell them and get
> > > > stuff that
> > > > > > > suits
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > you more.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > The likely reason you hear so many old school demos is
that
> > > > the
> > > > > > > people that
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > can afford a modular tend to be a bit older and grew up
with
> > > > prog
> > > > > > > rock or
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > 80ies synth pop. There's no reason a modular synthesizer
can't
> > > > > > > produce
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > contemporary sounds, especially now that more and more
digital
> > > > > > > sounds
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > generators and processors are developed. Check out the new
DSP
> > > > > > > processor
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > from Doepfer, but also the Tip Top Audio and Harvestman
range.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > One word of caution: People tend to go for the 'Sexy'
modules,
> > > > like
> > > > > > > filters
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > and add utility modules only as an afterthought. After
messing
> > > > with
> > > > > > > your
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > gear for a while you will probably find that you need more
> > > > VCA's,
> > > > > > > envelopes,
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > LFO's etc. The basic system also supplies you with a
decent
> > > > amount
> > > > > > > of these.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Hope this helps,
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > York
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > _____
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Von: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com
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> > > > <mailto:Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > > <Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > > > > > <mailto:Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com
> > > > <Doepfer_a100%2540yahoogroups.com>>
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > [mailto:Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com
<mailto:Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com> 
> > > > <mailto:Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > > <Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > > > > > <mailto:Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com
> > > > <Doepfer_a100%2540yahoogroups.com>>
> > > > > > > ] Im
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Auftrag von doof_per
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Gesendet: Mittwoch, 2. Juni 2010 03:41
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > An: doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com
<mailto:doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com> 
> > > > <mailto:doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > > <doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > > > > > <mailto:doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com
> > > > <doepfer_a100%2540yahoogroups.com>>
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Betreff: [Doepfer_a100] Newby Seeking Chaos
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Hi Guys,
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Ive spent hours and hours and hours online checking out
> > > > modular gear
> > > > > > > and
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > (trying) to get my head around it all. For now, ive saved
up
> > > > enough
> > > > > > > to get
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > an a100 Basic System2 and im hoping for the best! :)
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > What I wanted to know from anyone:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Im only after modular gear for the "alive" sounds ive
heard
> > > > from
> > > > > > > other
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > peoples stuff (mainly Buchla TBH..love that sound!..But
cant
> > > > afford
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > one..anyways thats irrelevant)
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Im mainly into really distorted sounds, drum n bass,
> > > > > > > mechanical/industrial
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > and love shaping sounds and spending hours on a sound to
make
> > > > it
> > > > > > > right and
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > come "alive".
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Am I looking in the right place(Doepfer?) for my sound?
Ive
> > > > heard
> > > > > > > allot of
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > the dopefer demos online and I guess the impression I get
is
> > > > rather
> > > > > > > really
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > old school, simplistic and minimal/80's (Which I dont mind
and
> > > > love
> > > > > > > in
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > certain instances)..But at the same time..Can I do more
with
> > > > it?
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > What would someone recommend I get as a startup, to get
this
> > > > sound
> > > > > > > im
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > after..Shall I go for a "sound design/shaping"a100
system..Or
> > > > for a
> > > > > > > "Basic
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > synth system"..I have read soo many links/seen youtube
vids
> > > > etc etc
> > > > > > > but
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > really I wanted to hear it from the horses mouth, so to
speak
> > > > before
> > > > > > > I make
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > my order.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Does anyone have a "sound rape a100" system they can offer
> > > > advice
> > > > > > > on? lol
> > > > > > > > >
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RE: [Doepfer_a100] Re: Newby Seeking Chaos

2010-06-04 by david.salter@thomsonreuters.com

I have one of these http://www.analoguesystems.co.uk/modules/rs310.htm and one of these http://www.analoguesystems.co.uk/modules/rs120.htm and like them both.

 

 

 

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From: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of doof_per
Sent: 04 June 2010 09:47
To: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Doepfer_a100] Re: Newby Seeking Chaos

 

  

Been searching high and low for a euro rack chorus/phase/flange (specifically those type of effects)..But only seem to find "bread and butter" verb/pitch/delay/chorus/flange into one crammed unit.. Anyone know of real good quality units that beat software plugins?

Checked all the brands mentioned in this list: http://www.synthtopia.com/content/2009/01/31/eurorack-modular-synthesizers/

--- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com <mailto:Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com> , "doof_per" <doof_per@...> wrote:
>
> Haha!
> 
> You have no idea mate... It wouldnt surprise me if they already exist.. All we need is a limited edition Doepfer bafana vuvuzela VCO & that would have covered the entire FIFA range of products.
> 
> --- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com <mailto:Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com> , <david.salter@> wrote:
> >
> > Behave ;o)
> > 
> > 
> > ...Bafana plugs ?
> > 
> > Sorry, couldn't resist... :-)
> > 
> > Best,
> > Julien
> > 
> > 
> > Le 3 juin 2010 à 20:41, york luethje a écrit :
> > 
> > > You're in South Africa? Good luck for Bafana Bafana in the next weeks!
> > > 
> > > ________________________________
> > > From: doof_per <doof_per@>
> > > To: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com <mailto:Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com> 
> > > Sent: Thursday, June 3, 2010 11:36:39
> > > Subject: [Doepfer_a100] Re: Newby Seeking Chaos
> > > 
> > > David & Richard - Good thought. I should just prob go for the "Dark Energy" standalone and be able to sell it as a unit when I get "tired" of it in the future as my module epxands, rather than sitting with the Euro Rack module (selling 2nd hand modular units in South Africa will be VERY difficult!)..Had a listen to the Plague Bearer demos..TBH it doesnt (personally speaking) tickle my fancy much..Very "Pedal" sounding if I may say? My current Metasonix TM7 & TM1 can handle those quite easily..But I appreciate the tip mate :)
> > > 
> > > Damage here we come!
> > > 
> > > Yeeeeha!!!!!!!
> > > 
> > > --- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com <mailto:Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com> , <david.salter@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > That looks like a nice set-up.
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > Question - do you mean Dark Energy or A111-5?
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > The dark Energy has a built in midi interface that provides CV & gate
> > > > out for other modules so I don't think the A190-2 is needed.
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > David
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
> > > > * * *
> > > > David Salter
> > > > Senior Consultant
> > > > 
> > > > SSG UKI
> > > > 
> > > > Thomson Reuters
> > > > 
> > > > O +44 (0)20 7542 2402X 52402
> > > > M 07990562402
> > > > 
> > > > david.salter@
> > > > thomsonreuters.com <http://thomsonreuters.com/> 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > P Please consider the environment before printing this e-mail 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > ________________________________
> > > > 
> > > > From: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com <mailto:Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com>  [mailto:Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com <mailto:Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com> ]
> > > > On Behalf Of doof_per
> > > > Sent: 03 June 2010 14:44
> > > > To: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com <mailto:Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com> 
> > > > Subject: [Doepfer_a100] Re: Newby Seeking Chaos
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > Wow.
> > > > 
> > > > The response & knowledge being shed is amazing. Thank you, I am very
> > > > grateful (David, York, Nick, Ernst & the others :)
> > > > 
> > > > So im really starting to understand this more and more by the click of
> > > > my mouse :)
> > > > 
> > > > Here is my updated list..I think this should cover it!?
> > > > 
> > > > Other Brands:
> > > > Geiger Counter 
> > > > B:assMaster 
> > > > Metasonix R53 
> > > > 
> > > > Doepfer:
> > > > A100P9 (case) 
> > > > A-143-1 Quad AD Generator 
> > > > A138-b log Mixer 
> > > > A-114 Ring Modulator 
> > > > A132-1 Dual VCA 
> > > > A119 input 
> > > > A137-1 & A137-2 Wave Multipliers, 
> > > > A106 Xtrene Filter
> > > > A-111-5 Dark Energy (Why the hell not!) 
> > > > A190-2 MIDI (For Dark Energy)
> > > > 
> > > > Can I make loud demonic noises yet pllllease?!?
> > > > 
> > > > --- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com <mailto:Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com> 
> > > > <mailto:Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com> , "doof_per" <doof_per@>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > Bakkis & Robert:
> > > > > Point noted and taken :)
> > > > > 
> > > > > Thanks guys, I will do just that :)
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > David:
> > > > > 
> > > > > "Add a mixer, a ring modulator and audio sources like VCO's and noise
> > > > if your not just processing external sounds."
> > > > > 
> > > > > - For now, I think i will be just doing external sound.
> > > > > 
> > > > > "Control comes from modulation; LFO's, Envelope generators and VCA's
> > > > and I promise you can never have enough of these."
> > > > > 
> > > > > - Would you not say that my list has that? Could you recommend any
> > > > essential units? Im already on 2100Euros on my current list :/ Maybe I
> > > > should rid of the bitcrusher and some "irrelevant" units (for now)
> > > > > 
> > > > > "It is very important to set a couple of goals you want to achieve,"
> > > > > 
> > > > > - I think my goal for my 1st startup kit, would be to be able to shape
> > > > & distort bass/synth lead sounds mainly.
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > --- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com <mailto:Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com> 
> > > > <mailto:Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com> , Robbert Jan Rink
> > > > <robbertrink@> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > And do check if you can afford the P9 case. It is only a small extra
> > > > amount
> > > > > > while it offers more flexibility in the future!
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Robbert
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > On Wed, Jun 2, 2010 at 1:51 PM, <david.salter@> wrote:
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > The list are modules for mashing sound, however you need to
> > > > control as
> > > > > > > well, even for the nastiest noise.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Control comes from modulation; LFO's, Envelope generators and
> > > > VCA's and
> > > > > > > I promise you can never have enough of these. Also sequencer is a
> > > > cool
> > > > > > > choice this can be done with the A160/161 and a mixer combination
> > > > or one
> > > > > > > of the many purpose built sequencers out there. These no only act
> > > > as
> > > > > > > note generators but CV generators, complex oscillators and more.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Add a mixer, a ring modulator and audio sources like VCO's and
> > > > noise if
> > > > > > > your not just processing external sounds.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > As I said modular has a habit of getting dangerously consuming.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > It is very important to set a couple of goals you want to achieve,
> > > > do
> > > > > > > some research and ask questions and build a small system (in a
> > > > largish
> > > > > > > case) to start with then expand as you develop.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > David
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
> > > > * * *
> > > > > > > * * *
> > > > > > > David Salter
> > > > > > > Senior Consultant
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > SSG UKI
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Thomson Reuters
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > O +44 (0)20 7542 2402X 52402
> > > > > > > M 07990562402
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > david.salter@ <david.salter%40thomsonreuters.com>
> > > > > > > thomsonreuters.com <http://thomsonreuters.com/>
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > P Please consider the environment before printing this e-mail
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > ________________________________
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > From: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com <mailto:Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com> 
> > > > <mailto:Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > > <Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com>[mailto:
> > > > > > > Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com <mailto:Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com> 
> > > > <mailto:Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > > <Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com>]
> > > > > > > On Behalf Of doof_per
> > > > > > > Sent: 02 June 2010 12:29
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > To: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com <mailto:Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com> 
> > > > <mailto:Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > > <Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > > > > > Subject: [Doepfer_a100] Re: Newby Seeking Chaos
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Whoa!
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > This is the quickest and nicest advice ive ever gotten. THANKS
> > > > GUYS!
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Thanks a million, everything is being noted & my head is spinning
> > > > a
> > > > > > > little although light is being shed and my ideas are getting
> > > > clearer!
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I think for now it would be best to just get the sound sources
> > > > from my
> > > > > > > DAW and use the modular as an effects/shaping/sound design tool. I
> > > > would
> > > > > > > probably go for modular sound source once I get my head around
> > > > which
> > > > > > > units/brand do what exaclty.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Here is my current ("interest") list (as far as I can understand
> > > > from
> > > > > > > reading/hearing the details of each unit specifically on the site)
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Others Brands:
> > > > > > > GeigerCounter(FnckYEAH!)
> > > > > > > B:assMaster (Euro Rack)
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Doepfer:
> > > > > > > A119input
> > > > > > > A100P6 (case)
> > > > > > > A124Wasp
> > > > > > > A-140 env1eope
> > > > > > > A-115audiodivider
> > > > > > > A-116waveshaper
> > > > > > > A-136distortion
> > > > > > > A-188 BBD
> > > > > > > A187-1
> > > > > > > A189-1 Bit Crusher,
> > > > > > > A137-1 Wave Multipliers
> > > > > > > A106 Xtrene Filter
> > > > > > > A113 Sub Harmonic Gen
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Very confused with what these are exactly/if I need them:
> > > > > > > * 1 x Trigger Divider A-160 ?
> > > > > > > * 1 x VC Waveform Processor A-116?
> > > > > > > * 1 x logarithmic VCA A-131?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I do actually own a TM7 Scrotum Smasher & TM1 & llooove them
> > > > dearly :)
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > So does the above list make sense to have a working/functioning
> > > > box of
> > > > > > > destruction? heehee :)
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I dont mind everything being mono as I usually prefer mono
> > > > anyways.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > You guys rock!!
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > --- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com <mailto:Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com> 
> > > > <mailto:Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > > <Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > > > > > <mailto:Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com
> > > > <Doepfer_a100%2540yahoogroups.com>>
> > > > > > > , "Carci" <francois.maxime@>
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Hi,
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > If you like Buchla, check the brand "Make noise", you'll
> > > > probably love
> > > > > > > their QMMG / MATHS combo.
> > > > > > > > The most extreme combo I've tried so far, for both processing
> > > > and raw
> > > > > > > sound generation was A136 distortion + A106 Xtreme filter +
> > > > Metasonix
> > > > > > > Scrotum smasher. Sounds go from plain powerful distortion to
> > > > unbearable
> > > > > > > noises and scratches and tube screaming.
> > > > > > > > The smasher is not a module but Metasonix now makes eurorack so
> > > > be
> > > > > > > sure to check their stuff, (especially if you like the sound on
> > > > the last
> > > > > > > NIN albums, it's full of it.)
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Modules like A188 BBD and A189 Bit crusher can be nasty if you
> > > > like
> > > > > > > digital noise.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > You look like you already have an idea of what sound you want to
> > > > > > > produce, basic systems are great but if you wanna add more
> > > > modules,
> > > > > > > you'll need more rackspace. So better have a look at which modules
> > > > you
> > > > > > > think you can live without in the basic system and replace them
> > > > with
> > > > > > > more specific modules. Trust me, the time you spend reading every
> > > > module
> > > > > > > user manual will help you a lot when you get your hands on your
> > > > system
> > > > > > > for the first time.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > --- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com <mailto:Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com> 
> > > > <mailto:Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > > <Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > > > > > <mailto:Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com
> > > > <Doepfer_a100%2540yahoogroups.com>>
> > > > > > > , Bakis Sirros
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > <synth_freak_2000@> wrote:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > all of this is true, but also get an A196 PLL module, for
> > > > weird and
> > > > > > > harsh noises.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Bakis Sirros - Parallel Worlds / Interconnected / Memory Geist
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > [Doepfer_a100] group owner
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > www. parallel - worlds - music. com
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > www. myspace. com/ parallelworldsmusic
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > www. myspace. com/ interconnectedmusic
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > www. myspace. com/ memorygeist
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > www. DiN. org. uk
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > www. musicamaximamagnetica. com
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > www. vu-us. com
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > --- On Wed, 6/2/10, York Luethje <ybl@> wrote:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > From: York Luethje <ybl@>
> > > > > > > > > Subject: AW: [Doepfer_a100] Newby Seeking Chaos
> > > > > > > > > To: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com <mailto:Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com> 
> > > > <mailto:Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > > <Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > > > > > <mailto:Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com
> > > > <Doepfer_a100%2540yahoogroups.com>>
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Date: Wednesday, June 2, 2010, 11:08 AM
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Hi,
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Do you want the sounds to originate with your modular or do
> > > > you want
> > > > > > > to use
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > it more as a processing tool (e.g. for you drum machine)?
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > In the latter case I suggest at least an A-119 to get sounds
> > > > into
> > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > system.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > In addition, Doepfer and all the other manufacturers offer
> > > > vast
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > possibilities for wrecking any sound; you really can't go
> > > > wrong
> > > > > > > there. Apart
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > from the various filters take a look at wave shapers (A-116,
> > > > A-136),
> > > > > > > wave
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > multipliers (A-137), the A-188 range of BBDs etc. And that's
> > > > just
> > > > > > > Doepfer.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > If you're not quite sure how to utilise your modular, the
> > > > basic
> > > > > > > system
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > provides a very good starting point. If you later find out
> > > > that you
> > > > > > > have no
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > use for certain modules, you can always sell them and get
> > > > stuff that
> > > > > > > suits
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > you more.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > The likely reason you hear so many old school demos is that
> > > > the
> > > > > > > people that
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > can afford a modular tend to be a bit older and grew up with
> > > > prog
> > > > > > > rock or
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > 80ies synth pop. There's no reason a modular synthesizer can't
> > > > > > > produce
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > contemporary sounds, especially now that more and more digital
> > > > > > > sounds
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > generators and processors are developed. Check out the new DSP
> > > > > > > processor
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > from Doepfer, but also the Tip Top Audio and Harvestman range.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > One word of caution: People tend to go for the 'Sexy' modules,
> > > > like
> > > > > > > filters
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > and add utility modules only as an afterthought. After messing
> > > > with
> > > > > > > your
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > gear for a while you will probably find that you need more
> > > > VCA's,
> > > > > > > envelopes,
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > LFO's etc. The basic system also supplies you with a decent
> > > > amount
> > > > > > > of these.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Hope this helps,
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > York
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > _____
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Von: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com <mailto:Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com> 
> > > > <mailto:Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > > <Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > > > > > <mailto:Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com
> > > > <Doepfer_a100%2540yahoogroups.com>>
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > [mailto:Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com <mailto:Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com> 
> > > > <mailto:Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > > <Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > > > > > <mailto:Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com
> > > > <Doepfer_a100%2540yahoogroups.com>>
> > > > > > > ] Im
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Auftrag von doof_per
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Gesendet: Mittwoch, 2. Juni 2010 03:41
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > An: doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com <mailto:doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com> 
> > > > <mailto:doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > > <doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > > > > > <mailto:doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com
> > > > <doepfer_a100%2540yahoogroups.com>>
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Betreff: [Doepfer_a100] Newby Seeking Chaos
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Hi Guys,
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Ive spent hours and hours and hours online checking out
> > > > modular gear
> > > > > > > and
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > (trying) to get my head around it all. For now, ive saved up
> > > > enough
> > > > > > > to get
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > an a100 Basic System2 and im hoping for the best! :)
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > What I wanted to know from anyone:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Im only after modular gear for the "alive" sounds ive heard
> > > > from
> > > > > > > other
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > peoples stuff (mainly Buchla TBH..love that sound!..But cant
> > > > afford
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > one..anyways thats irrelevant)
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Im mainly into really distorted sounds, drum n bass,
> > > > > > > mechanical/industrial
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > and love shaping sounds and spending hours on a sound to make
> > > > it
> > > > > > > right and
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > come "alive".
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Am I looking in the right place(Doepfer?) for my sound? Ive
> > > > heard
> > > > > > > allot of
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > the dopefer demos online and I guess the impression I get is
> > > > rather
> > > > > > > really
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > old school, simplistic and minimal/80's (Which I dont mind and
> > > > love
> > > > > > > in
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > certain instances)..But at the same time..Can I do more with
> > > > it?
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > What would someone recommend I get as a startup, to get this
> > > > sound
> > > > > > > im
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > after..Shall I go for a "sound design/shaping"a100 system..Or
> > > > for a
> > > > > > > "Basic
> > > > > > > > >
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Re: Newby Seeking Chaos

2010-06-04 by Carci

Well, he already has a Metasonix scrotum smasher so I guess the neighbors  already moved =)
If not, they definitely will.



In my opinion, regarding VCAs, you should get a A131 instead of the A132-1.
That's one single VCA instead of dual but you have very few control modules in your system and you'll have much less possibilities with the A132 (no attenuator for CV, no attenuator for signals, no manual gain...). 
And A132 is more suited to amplify control voltages, it was not designed for audio signals. So if you only have one VCA this is not the good choice.


Of course, the best option is A131 + A132...

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Re: [Doepfer_a100] Re: Newby Seeking Chaos

2010-06-04 by Bakis Sirros

check Doepfer A188-1 BBD range of modules and A188-2 (for chorus, flanger), 
plus the great modular phaser A101-3 vactrol phaser and A125 vc-phaser (for... phaser!).


Bakis Sirros - Parallel Worlds / Interconnected / Memory Geist

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www. vu-us. com

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Subject: [Doepfer_a100] Re: Newby Seeking Chaos
To: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com
Date: Friday, June 4, 2010, 11:47 AM







 



  


    
      
      
      Been searching high and low for a euro rack chorus/phase/flange (specifically those type of effects)..But only seem to find "bread and butter" verb/pitch/delay/chorus/flange into one crammed unit.. Anyone know of real good quality units that beat software plugins?



Checked all the brands mentioned in this list: http://www.synthtopia.com/content/2009/01/31/eurorack-modular-synthesizers/



--- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, "doof_per" <doof_per@...> wrote:

>

> Haha!

> 

> You have no idea mate... It wouldnt surprise me if they already exist.. All we need is a limited edition Doepfer bafana vuvuzela VCO & that would have covered the entire FIFA range of products.

> 

> --- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, <david.salter@> wrote:

> >

> > Behave ;o)

> > 

> > 

> > ...Bafana plugs ?

> > 

> > Sorry, couldn't resist... :-)

> > 

> > Best,

> > Julien

> > 

> > 

> > Le 3 juin 2010 à 20:41, york luethje a écrit :

> > 

> > > You're in South Africa? Good luck for Bafana Bafana in the next weeks!

> > > 

> > > ________________________________

> > > From: doof_per <doof_per@>

> > > To: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com

> > > Sent: Thursday, June 3, 2010 11:36:39

> > > Subject: [Doepfer_a100] Re: Newby Seeking Chaos

> > > 

> > > David & Richard - Good thought. I should just prob go for the "Dark Energy" standalone and be able to sell it as a unit when I get "tired" of it in the future as my module epxands, rather than sitting with the Euro Rack module (selling 2nd hand modular units in South Africa will be VERY difficult!)..Had a listen to the Plague Bearer demos..TBH it doesnt (personally speaking) tickle my fancy much..Very "Pedal" sounding if I may say? My current Metasonix TM7 & TM1 can handle those quite easily..But I appreciate the tip mate :)

> > > 

> > > Damage here we come!

> > > 

> > > Yeeeeha!!!!!!!

> > > 

> > > --- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, <david.salter@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > That looks like a nice set-up.

> > > > 

> > > > 

> > > > 

> > > > Question - do you mean Dark Energy or A111-5?

> > > > 

> > > > 

> > > > 

> > > > The dark Energy has a built in midi interface that provides CV & gate

> > > > out for other modules so I don't think the A190-2 is needed.

> > > > 

> > > > 

> > > > 

> > > > David

> > > > 

> > > > 

> > > > 

> > > > * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *

> > > > * * *

> > > > David Salter

> > > > Senior Consultant

> > > > 

> > > > SSG UKI

> > > > 

> > > > Thomson Reuters

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> > > > 

> > > > david.salter@

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> > > > 

> > > > 

> > > > 

> > > > P Please consider the environment before printing this e-mail 

> > > > 

> > > > 

> > > > 

> > > > ________________________________

> > > > 

> > > > From: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com]

> > > > On Behalf Of doof_per

> > > > Sent: 03 June 2010 14:44

> > > > To: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com

> > > > Subject: [Doepfer_a100] Re: Newby Seeking Chaos

> > > > 

> > > > 

> > > > 

> > > > 

> > > > 

> > > > 

> > > > 

> > > > Wow.

> > > > 

> > > > The response & knowledge being shed is amazing. Thank you, I am very

> > > > grateful (David, York, Nick, Ernst & the others :)

> > > > 

> > > > So im really starting to understand this more and more by the click of

> > > > my mouse :)

> > > > 

> > > > Here is my updated list..I think this should cover it!?

> > > > 

> > > > Other Brands:

> > > > Geiger Counter 

> > > > B:assMaster 

> > > > Metasonix R53 

> > > > 

> > > > Doepfer:

> > > > A100P9 (case) 

> > > > A-143-1 Quad AD Generator 

> > > > A138-b log Mixer 

> > > > A-114 Ring Modulator 

> > > > A132-1 Dual VCA 

> > > > A119 input 

> > > > A137-1 & A137-2 Wave Multipliers, 

> > > > A106 Xtrene Filter

> > > > A-111-5 Dark Energy (Why the hell not!) 

> > > > A190-2 MIDI (For Dark Energy)

> > > > 

> > > > Can I make loud demonic noises yet pllllease?!?

> > > > 

> > > > --- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com

> > > > <mailto:Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com> , "doof_per" <doof_per@>

> > > > wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > 

> > > > > 

> > > > > Bakkis & Robert:

> > > > > Point noted and taken :)

> > > > > 

> > > > > Thanks guys, I will do just that :)

> > > > > 

> > > > > 

> > > > > 

> > > > > David:

> > > > > 

> > > > > "Add a mixer, a ring modulator and audio sources like VCO's and noise

> > > > if your not just processing external sounds."

> > > > > 

> > > > > - For now, I think i will be just doing external sound.

> > > > > 

> > > > > "Control comes from modulation; LFO's, Envelope generators and VCA's

> > > > and I promise you can never have enough of these."

> > > > > 

> > > > > - Would you not say that my list has that? Could you recommend any

> > > > essential units? Im already on 2100Euros on my current list :/ Maybe I

> > > > should rid of the bitcrusher and some "irrelevant" units (for now)

> > > > > 

> > > > > "It is very important to set a couple of goals you want to achieve,"

> > > > > 

> > > > > - I think my goal for my 1st startup kit, would be to be able to shape

> > > > & distort bass/synth lead sounds mainly.

> > > > > 

> > > > > 

> > > > > --- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com

> > > > <mailto:Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com> , Robbert Jan Rink

> > > > <robbertrink@> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > And do check if you can afford the P9 case. It is only a small extra

> > > > amount

> > > > > > while it offers more flexibility in the future!

> > > > > > 

> > > > > > Robbert

> > > > > > 

> > > > > > On Wed, Jun 2, 2010 at 1:51 PM, <david.salter@> wrote:

> > > > > > 

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > The list are modules for mashing sound, however you need to

> > > > control as

> > > > > > > well, even for the nastiest noise.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Control comes from modulation; LFO's, Envelope generators and

> > > > VCA's and

> > > > > > > I promise you can never have enough of these. Also sequencer is a

> > > > cool

> > > > > > > choice this can be done with the A160/161 and a mixer combination

> > > > or one

> > > > > > > of the many purpose built sequencers out there. These no only act

> > > > as

> > > > > > > note generators but CV generators, complex oscillators and more.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Add a mixer, a ring modulator and audio sources like VCO's and

> > > > noise if

> > > > > > > your not just processing external sounds.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > As I said modular has a habit of getting dangerously consuming.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > It is very important to set a couple of goals you want to achieve,

> > > > do

> > > > > > > some research and ask questions and build a small system (in a

> > > > largish

> > > > > > > case) to start with then expand as you develop.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > David

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *

> > > > * * *

> > > > > > > * * *

> > > > > > > David Salter

> > > > > > > Senior Consultant

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > SSG UKI

> > > > > > >

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> > > > > > > P Please consider the environment before printing this e-mail

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> > > > > > > ________________________________

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > From: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com

> > > > <mailto:Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com>

> > > > <Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com>[mailto:

> > > > > > > Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com

> > > > <mailto:Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com>

> > > > <Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com>]

> > > > > > > On Behalf Of doof_per

> > > > > > > Sent: 02 June 2010 12:29

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > To: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com

> > > > <mailto:Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com>

> > > > <Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com>

> > > > > > > Subject: [Doepfer_a100] Re: Newby Seeking Chaos

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Whoa!

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > This is the quickest and nicest advice ive ever gotten. THANKS

> > > > GUYS!

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Thanks a million, everything is being noted & my head is spinning

> > > > a

> > > > > > > little although light is being shed and my ideas are getting

> > > > clearer!

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > I think for now it would be best to just get the sound sources

> > > > from my

> > > > > > > DAW and use the modular as an effects/shaping/sound design tool. I

> > > > would

> > > > > > > probably go for modular sound source once I get my head around

> > > > which

> > > > > > > units/brand do what exaclty.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Here is my current ("interest") list (as far as I can understand

> > > > from

> > > > > > > reading/hearing the details of each unit specifically on the site)

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Others Brands:

> > > > > > > GeigerCounter(FnckYEAH!)

> > > > > > > B:assMaster (Euro Rack)

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Doepfer:

> > > > > > > A119input

> > > > > > > A100P6 (case)

> > > > > > > A124Wasp

> > > > > > > A-140 env1eope

> > > > > > > A-115audiodivider

> > > > > > > A-116waveshaper

> > > > > > > A-136distortion

> > > > > > > A-188 BBD

> > > > > > > A187-1

> > > > > > > A189-1 Bit Crusher,

> > > > > > > A137-1 Wave Multipliers

> > > > > > > A106 Xtrene Filter

> > > > > > > A113 Sub Harmonic Gen

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Very confused with what these are exactly/if I need them:

> > > > > > > * 1 x Trigger Divider A-160 ?

> > > > > > > * 1 x VC Waveform Processor A-116?

> > > > > > > * 1 x logarithmic VCA A-131?

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > I do actually own a TM7 Scrotum Smasher & TM1 & llooove them

> > > > dearly :)

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > So does the above list make sense to have a working/functioning

> > > > box of

> > > > > > > destruction? heehee :)

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > I dont mind everything being mono as I usually prefer mono

> > > > anyways.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > You guys rock!!

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > --- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com

> > > > <mailto:Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com>

> > > > <Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com>

> > > > > > > <mailto:Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com

> > > > <Doepfer_a100%2540yahoogroups.com>>

> > > > > > > , "Carci" <francois.maxime@>

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Hi,

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > If you like Buchla, check the brand "Make noise", you'll

> > > > probably love

> > > > > > > their QMMG / MATHS combo.

> > > > > > > > The most extreme combo I've tried so far, for both processing

> > > > and raw

> > > > > > > sound generation was A136 distortion + A106 Xtreme filter +

> > > > Metasonix

> > > > > > > Scrotum smasher. Sounds go from plain powerful distortion to

> > > > unbearable

> > > > > > > noises and scratches and tube screaming.

> > > > > > > > The smasher is not a module but Metasonix now makes eurorack so

> > > > be

> > > > > > > sure to check their stuff, (especially if you like the sound on

> > > > the last

> > > > > > > NIN albums, it's full of it.)

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Modules like A188 BBD and A189 Bit crusher can be nasty if you

> > > > like

> > > > > > > digital noise.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > You look like you already have an idea of what sound you want to

> > > > > > > produce, basic systems are great but if you wanna add more

> > > > modules,

> > > > > > > you'll need more rackspace. So better have a look at which modules

> > > > you

> > > > > > > think you can live without in the basic system and replace them

> > > > with

> > > > > > > more specific modules. Trust me, the time you spend reading every

> > > > module

> > > > > > > user manual will help you a lot when you get your hands on your

> > > > system

> > > > > > > for the first time.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > --- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com

> > > > <mailto:Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com>

> > > > <Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com>

> > > > > > > <mailto:Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com

> > > > <Doepfer_a100%2540yahoogroups.com>>

> > > > > > > , Bakis Sirros

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > <synth_freak_2000@> wrote:

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > all of this is true, but also get an A196 PLL module, for

> > > > weird and

> > > > > > > harsh noises.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Bakis Sirros - Parallel Worlds / Interconnected / Memory Geist

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > [Doepfer_a100] group owner

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > www. parallel - worlds - music. com

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > www. myspace. com/ parallelworldsmusic

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > www. myspace. com/ interconnectedmusic

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > www. myspace. com/ memorygeist

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > www. DiN. org. uk

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > www. musicamaximamagnetica. com

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > www. vu-us. com

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > --- On Wed, 6/2/10, York Luethje <ybl@> wrote:

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > From: York Luethje <ybl@>

> > > > > > > > > Subject: AW: [Doepfer_a100] Newby Seeking Chaos

> > > > > > > > > To: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com

> > > > <mailto:Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com>

> > > > <Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com>

> > > > > > > <mailto:Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com

> > > > <Doepfer_a100%2540yahoogroups.com>>

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Date: Wednesday, June 2, 2010, 11:08 AM

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

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> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Hi,

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Do you want the sounds to originate with your modular or do

> > > > you want

> > > > > > > to use

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > it more as a processing tool (e.g. for you drum machine)?

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > In the latter case I suggest at least an A-119 to get sounds

> > > > into

> > > > > > > the

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > system.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > In addition, Doepfer and all the other manufacturers offer

> > > > vast

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > possibilities for wrecking any sound; you really can't go

> > > > wrong

> > > > > > > there. Apart

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > from the various filters take a look at wave shapers (A-116,

> > > > A-136),

> > > > > > > wave

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > multipliers (A-137), the A-188 range of BBDs etc. And that's

> > > > just

> > > > > > > Doepfer.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > If you're not quite sure how to utilise your modular, the

> > > > basic

> > > > > > > system

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > provides a very good starting point. If you later find out

> > > > that you

> > > > > > > have no

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > use for certain modules, you can always sell them and get

> > > > stuff that

> > > > > > > suits

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > you more.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > The likely reason you hear so many old school demos is that

> > > > the

> > > > > > > people that

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > can afford a modular tend to be a bit older and grew up with

> > > > prog

> > > > > > > rock or

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > 80ies synth pop. There's no reason a modular synthesizer can't

> > > > > > > produce

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > contemporary sounds, especially now that more and more digital

> > > > > > > sounds

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > generators and processors are developed. Check out the new DSP

> > > > > > > processor

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > from Doepfer, but also the Tip Top Audio and Harvestman range.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > One word of caution: People tend to go for the 'Sexy' modules,

> > > > like

> > > > > > > filters

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > and add utility modules only as an afterthought. After messing

> > > > with

> > > > > > > your

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > gear for a while you will probably find that you need more

> > > > VCA's,

> > > > > > > envelopes,

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > LFO's etc. The basic system also supplies you with a decent

> > > > amount

> > > > > > > of these.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Hope this helps,

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > York

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

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> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Von: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com

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> > > > <Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com>

> > > > > > > <mailto:Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com

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> > > > > > >

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> > > > <mailto:Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com>

> > > > <Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com>

> > > > > > > <mailto:Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com

> > > > <Doepfer_a100%2540yahoogroups.com>>

> > > > > > > ] Im

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Auftrag von doof_per

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Gesendet: Mittwoch, 2. Juni 2010 03:41

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > An: doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com

> > > > <mailto:doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com>

> > > > <doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com>

> > > > > > > <mailto:doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com

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> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Betreff: [Doepfer_a100] Newby Seeking Chaos

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Hi Guys,

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Ive spent hours and hours and hours online checking out

> > > > modular gear

> > > > > > > and

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > (trying) to get my head around it all. For now, ive saved up

> > > > enough

> > > > > > > to get

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > an a100 Basic System2 and im hoping for the best! :)

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > What I wanted to know from anyone:

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Im only after modular gear for the "alive" sounds ive heard

> > > > from

> > > > > > > other

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > peoples stuff (mainly Buchla TBH..love that sound!..But cant

> > > > afford

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > one..anyways thats irrelevant)

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Im mainly into really distorted sounds, drum n bass,

> > > > > > > mechanical/industrial

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > and love shaping sounds and spending hours on a sound to make

> > > > it

> > > > > > > right and

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > come "alive".

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Am I looking in the right place(Doepfer?) for my sound? Ive

> > > > heard

> > > > > > > allot of

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > the dopefer demos online and I guess the impression I get is

> > > > rather

> > > > > > > really

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > old school, simplistic and minimal/80's (Which I dont mind and

> > > > love

> > > > > > > in

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > certain instances)..But at the same time..Can I do more with

> > > > it?

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > What would someone recommend I get as a startup, to get this

> > > > sound

> > > > > > > im

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > after..Shall I go for a "sound design/shaping"a100 system..Or

> > > > for a

> > > > > > > "Basic

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > synth system"..I have read soo many links/seen youtube vids

> > > > etc etc

> > > > > > > but

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > really I wanted to hear it from the horses mouth, so to speak

> > > > before

> > > > > > > I make

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > my order.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Does anyone have a "sound rape a100" system they can offer

> > > > advice

> > > > > > > on? lol

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

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RE: [Doepfer_a100] Re: Newby Seeking Chaos

2010-06-04 by Bakis Sirros

yes, the AS modules (phaser, chorus, bbd, etc...) too!

Bakis Sirros - Parallel Worlds / Interconnected / Memory Geist

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www. myspace. com/ memorygeist

www. DiN. org. uk

www. musicamaximamagnetica. com

www. vu-us. com

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Subject: RE: [Doepfer_a100] Re: Newby Seeking Chaos
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From: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of doof_per

Sent: 04 June 2010 09:47

To: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com

Subject: [Doepfer_a100] Re: Newby Seeking Chaos



Been searching high and low for a euro rack chorus/phase/flange (specifically those type of effects)..But only seem to find "bread and butter" verb/pitch/delay/chorus/flange into one crammed unit.. Anyone know of real good quality units that beat software plugins?



Checked all the brands mentioned in this list: http://www.synthtopia.com/content/2009/01/31/eurorack-modular-synthesizers/



--- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com <mailto:Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com> , "doof_per" <doof_per@...> wrote:

>

> Haha!

> 

> You have no idea mate... It wouldnt surprise me if they already exist.. All we need is a limited edition Doepfer bafana vuvuzela VCO & that would have covered the entire FIFA range of products.

> 

> --- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com <mailto:Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com> , <david.salter@> wrote:

> >

> > Behave ;o)

> > 

> > 

> > ...Bafana plugs ?

> > 

> > Sorry, couldn't resist... :-)

> > 

> > Best,

> > Julien

> > 

> > 

> > Le 3 juin 2010 à 20:41, york luethje a écrit :

> > 

> > > You're in South Africa? Good luck for Bafana Bafana in the next weeks!

> > > 

> > > ________________________________

> > > From: doof_per <doof_per@>

> > > To: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com <mailto:Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com> 

> > > Sent: Thursday, June 3, 2010 11:36:39

> > > Subject: [Doepfer_a100] Re: Newby Seeking Chaos

> > > 

> > > David & Richard - Good thought. I should just prob go for the "Dark Energy" standalone and be able to sell it as a unit when I get "tired" of it in the future as my module epxands, rather than sitting with the Euro Rack module (selling 2nd hand modular units in South Africa will be VERY difficult!)..Had a listen to the Plague Bearer demos..TBH it doesnt (personally speaking) tickle my fancy much..Very "Pedal" sounding if I may say? My current Metasonix TM7 & TM1 can handle those quite easily..But I appreciate the tip mate :)

> > > 

> > > Damage here we come!

> > > 

> > > Yeeeeha!!!!!!!

> > > 

> > > --- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com <mailto:Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com> , <david.salter@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > That looks like a nice set-up.

> > > > 

> > > > 

> > > > 

> > > > Question - do you mean Dark Energy or A111-5?

> > > > 

> > > > 

> > > > 

> > > > The dark Energy has a built in midi interface that provides CV & gate

> > > > out for other modules so I don't think the A190-2 is needed.

> > > > 

> > > > 

> > > > 

> > > > David

> > > > 

> > > > 

> > > > 

> > > > * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *

> > > > * * *

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> > > > On Behalf Of doof_per

> > > > Sent: 03 June 2010 14:44

> > > > To: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com <mailto:Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com> 

> > > > Subject: [Doepfer_a100] Re: Newby Seeking Chaos

> > > > 

> > > > 

> > > > 

> > > > 

> > > > 

> > > > 

> > > > 

> > > > Wow.

> > > > 

> > > > The response & knowledge being shed is amazing. Thank you, I am very

> > > > grateful (David, York, Nick, Ernst & the others :)

> > > > 

> > > > So im really starting to understand this more and more by the click of

> > > > my mouse :)

> > > > 

> > > > Here is my updated list..I think this should cover it!?

> > > > 

> > > > Other Brands:

> > > > Geiger Counter 

> > > > B:assMaster 

> > > > Metasonix R53 

> > > > 

> > > > Doepfer:

> > > > A100P9 (case) 

> > > > A-143-1 Quad AD Generator 

> > > > A138-b log Mixer 

> > > > A-114 Ring Modulator 

> > > > A132-1 Dual VCA 

> > > > A119 input 

> > > > A137-1 & A137-2 Wave Multipliers, 

> > > > A106 Xtrene Filter

> > > > A-111-5 Dark Energy (Why the hell not!) 

> > > > A190-2 MIDI (For Dark Energy)

> > > > 

> > > > Can I make loud demonic noises yet pllllease?!?

> > > > 

> > > > --- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com <mailto:Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com> 

> > > > <mailto:Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com> , "doof_per" <doof_per@>

> > > > wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > 

> > > > > 

> > > > > Bakkis & Robert:

> > > > > Point noted and taken :)

> > > > > 

> > > > > Thanks guys, I will do just that :)

> > > > > 

> > > > > 

> > > > > 

> > > > > David:

> > > > > 

> > > > > "Add a mixer, a ring modulator and audio sources like VCO's and noise

> > > > if your not just processing external sounds."

> > > > > 

> > > > > - For now, I think i will be just doing external sound.

> > > > > 

> > > > > "Control comes from modulation; LFO's, Envelope generators and VCA's

> > > > and I promise you can never have enough of these."

> > > > > 

> > > > > - Would you not say that my list has that? Could you recommend any

> > > > essential units? Im already on 2100Euros on my current list :/ Maybe I

> > > > should rid of the bitcrusher and some "irrelevant" units (for now)

> > > > > 

> > > > > "It is very important to set a couple of goals you want to achieve,"

> > > > > 

> > > > > - I think my goal for my 1st startup kit, would be to be able to shape

> > > > & distort bass/synth lead sounds mainly.

> > > > > 

> > > > > 

> > > > > --- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com <mailto:Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com> 

> > > > <mailto:Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com> , Robbert Jan Rink

> > > > <robbertrink@> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > And do check if you can afford the P9 case. It is only a small extra

> > > > amount

> > > > > > while it offers more flexibility in the future!

> > > > > > 

> > > > > > Robbert

> > > > > > 

> > > > > > On Wed, Jun 2, 2010 at 1:51 PM, <david.salter@> wrote:

> > > > > > 

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > The list are modules for mashing sound, however you need to

> > > > control as

> > > > > > > well, even for the nastiest noise.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Control comes from modulation; LFO's, Envelope generators and

> > > > VCA's and

> > > > > > > I promise you can never have enough of these. Also sequencer is a

> > > > cool

> > > > > > > choice this can be done with the A160/161 and a mixer combination

> > > > or one

> > > > > > > of the many purpose built sequencers out there. These no only act

> > > > as

> > > > > > > note generators but CV generators, complex oscillators and more.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Add a mixer, a ring modulator and audio sources like VCO's and

> > > > noise if

> > > > > > > your not just processing external sounds.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > As I said modular has a habit of getting dangerously consuming.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > It is very important to set a couple of goals you want to achieve,

> > > > do

> > > > > > > some research and ask questions and build a small system (in a

> > > > largish

> > > > > > > case) to start with then expand as you develop.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > David

> > > > > > >

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> > > > * * *

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> > > > > > > On Behalf Of doof_per

> > > > > > > Sent: 02 June 2010 12:29

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > To: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com <mailto:Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com> 

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> > > > > > > Subject: [Doepfer_a100] Re: Newby Seeking Chaos

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Whoa!

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > This is the quickest and nicest advice ive ever gotten. THANKS

> > > > GUYS!

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Thanks a million, everything is being noted & my head is spinning

> > > > a

> > > > > > > little although light is being shed and my ideas are getting

> > > > clearer!

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > I think for now it would be best to just get the sound sources

> > > > from my

> > > > > > > DAW and use the modular as an effects/shaping/sound design tool. I

> > > > would

> > > > > > > probably go for modular sound source once I get my head around

> > > > which

> > > > > > > units/brand do what exaclty.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Here is my current ("interest") list (as far as I can understand

> > > > from

> > > > > > > reading/hearing the details of each unit specifically on the site)

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Others Brands:

> > > > > > > GeigerCounter(FnckYEAH!)

> > > > > > > B:assMaster (Euro Rack)

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Doepfer:

> > > > > > > A119input

> > > > > > > A100P6 (case)

> > > > > > > A124Wasp

> > > > > > > A-140 env1eope

> > > > > > > A-115audiodivider

> > > > > > > A-116waveshaper

> > > > > > > A-136distortion

> > > > > > > A-188 BBD

> > > > > > > A187-1

> > > > > > > A189-1 Bit Crusher,

> > > > > > > A137-1 Wave Multipliers

> > > > > > > A106 Xtrene Filter

> > > > > > > A113 Sub Harmonic Gen

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Very confused with what these are exactly/if I need them:

> > > > > > > * 1 x Trigger Divider A-160 ?

> > > > > > > * 1 x VC Waveform Processor A-116?

> > > > > > > * 1 x logarithmic VCA A-131?

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > I do actually own a TM7 Scrotum Smasher & TM1 & llooove them

> > > > dearly :)

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > So does the above list make sense to have a working/functioning

> > > > box of

> > > > > > > destruction? heehee :)

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > I dont mind everything being mono as I usually prefer mono

> > > > anyways.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > You guys rock!!

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > --- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com <mailto:Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com> 

> > > > <mailto:Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com>

> > > > <Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com>

> > > > > > > <mailto:Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com

> > > > <Doepfer_a100%2540yahoogroups.com>>

> > > > > > > , "Carci" <francois.maxime@>

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Hi,

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > If you like Buchla, check the brand "Make noise", you'll

> > > > probably love

> > > > > > > their QMMG / MATHS combo.

> > > > > > > > The most extreme combo I've tried so far, for both processing

> > > > and raw

> > > > > > > sound generation was A136 distortion + A106 Xtreme filter +

> > > > Metasonix

> > > > > > > Scrotum smasher. Sounds go from plain powerful distortion to

> > > > unbearable

> > > > > > > noises and scratches and tube screaming.

> > > > > > > > The smasher is not a module but Metasonix now makes eurorack so

> > > > be

> > > > > > > sure to check their stuff, (especially if you like the sound on

> > > > the last

> > > > > > > NIN albums, it's full of it.)

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Modules like A188 BBD and A189 Bit crusher can be nasty if you

> > > > like

> > > > > > > digital noise.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > You look like you already have an idea of what sound you want to

> > > > > > > produce, basic systems are great but if you wanna add more

> > > > modules,

> > > > > > > you'll need more rackspace. So better have a look at which modules

> > > > you

> > > > > > > think you can live without in the basic system and replace them

> > > > with

> > > > > > > more specific modules. Trust me, the time you spend reading every

> > > > module

> > > > > > > user manual will help you a lot when you get your hands on your

> > > > system

> > > > > > > for the first time.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > --- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com <mailto:Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com> 

> > > > <mailto:Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com>

> > > > <Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com>

> > > > > > > <mailto:Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com

> > > > <Doepfer_a100%2540yahoogroups.com>>

> > > > > > > , Bakis Sirros

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > <synth_freak_2000@> wrote:

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > all of this is true, but also get an A196 PLL module, for

> > > > weird and

> > > > > > > harsh noises.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Bakis Sirros - Parallel Worlds / Interconnected / Memory Geist

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > [Doepfer_a100] group owner

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > www. parallel - worlds - music. com

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > www. myspace. com/ parallelworldsmusic

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > www. myspace. com/ interconnectedmusic

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > www. myspace. com/ memorygeist

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > www. DiN. org. uk

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > www. musicamaximamagnetica. com

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > www. vu-us. com

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > --- On Wed, 6/2/10, York Luethje <ybl@> wrote:

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > From: York Luethje <ybl@>

> > > > > > > > > Subject: AW: [Doepfer_a100] Newby Seeking Chaos

> > > > > > > > > To: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com <mailto:Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com> 

> > > > <mailto:Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com>

> > > > <Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com>

> > > > > > > <mailto:Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com

> > > > <Doepfer_a100%2540yahoogroups.com>>

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Date: Wednesday, June 2, 2010, 11:08 AM

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Hi,

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Do you want the sounds to originate with your modular or do

> > > > you want

> > > > > > > to use

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > it more as a processing tool (e.g. for you drum machine)?

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > In the latter case I suggest at least an A-119 to get sounds

> > > > into

> > > > > > > the

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > system.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > In addition, Doepfer and all the other manufacturers offer

> > > > vast

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > possibilities for wrecking any sound; you really can't go

> > > > wrong

> > > > > > > there. Apart

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > from the various filters take a look at wave shapers (A-116,

> > > > A-136),

> > > > > > > wave

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > multipliers (A-137), the A-188 range of BBDs etc. And that's

> > > > just

> > > > > > > Doepfer.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > If you're not quite sure how to utilise your modular, the

> > > > basic

> > > > > > > system

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > provides a very good starting point. If you later find out

> > > > that you

> > > > > > > have no

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > use for certain modules, you can always sell them and get

> > > > stuff that

> > > > > > > suits

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > you more.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > The likely reason you hear so many old school demos is that

> > > > the

> > > > > > > people that

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > can afford a modular tend to be a bit older and grew up with

> > > > prog

> > > > > > > rock or

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > 80ies synth pop. There's no reason a modular synthesizer can't

> > > > > > > produce

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > contemporary sounds, especially now that more and more digital

> > > > > > > sounds

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > generators and processors are developed. Check out the new DSP

> > > > > > > processor

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > from Doepfer, but also the Tip Top Audio and Harvestman range.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > One word of caution: People tend to go for the 'Sexy' modules,

> > > > like

> > > > > > > filters

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > and add utility modules only as an afterthought. After messing

> > > > with

> > > > > > > your

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > gear for a while you will probably find that you need more

> > > > VCA's,

> > > > > > > envelopes,

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > LFO's etc. The basic system also supplies you with a decent

> > > > amount

> > > > > > > of these.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Hope this helps,

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > York

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > _____

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Von: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com <mailto:Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com> 

> > > > <mailto:Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com>

> > > > <Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com>

> > > > > > > <mailto:Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com

> > > > <Doepfer_a100%2540yahoogroups.com>>

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > [mailto:Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com <mailto:Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com> 

> > > > <mailto:Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com>

> > > > <Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com>

> > > > > > > <mailto:Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com

> > > > <Doepfer_a100%2540yahoogroups.com>>

> > > > > > > ] Im

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Auftrag von doof_per

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Gesendet: Mittwoch, 2. Juni 2010 03:41

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > An: doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com <mailto:doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com> 

> > > > <mailto:doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com>

> > > > <doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com>

> > > > > > > <mailto:doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com

> > > > <doepfer_a100%2540yahoogroups.com>>

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Betreff: [Doepfer_a100] Newby Seeking Chaos

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Hi Guys,

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Ive spent hours and hours and hours online checking out

> > > > modular gear

> > > > > > > and

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > (trying) to get my head around it all. For now, ive saved up

> > > > enough

> > > > > > > to get

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > an a100 Basic System2 and im hoping for the best! :)

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > What I wanted to know from anyone:

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Im only after modular gear for the "alive" sounds ive heard

> > > > from

> > > > > > > other

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > peoples stuff (mainly Buchla TBH..love that sound!..But cant

> > > > afford

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > one..anyways thats irrelevant)

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Im mainly into really distorted sounds, drum n bass,

> > > > > > > mechanical/industrial

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > and love shaping sounds and spending hours on a sound to make

> > > > it

> > > > > > > right and

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > come "alive".

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Am I looking in the right place(Doepfer?) for my sound? Ive

> > > > heard

> > > > > > > allot of

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > the dopefer demos online and I guess the impression I get is

> > > > rather

> > > > > > > really

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > old school, simplistic and minimal/80's (Which I dont mind and

> > > > love

> > > > > > > in

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > certain instances)..But at the same time..Can I do more with

> > > > it?

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > What would someone recommend I get as a startup, to get this

> > > > sound

> > > > > > > im

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > after..Shall I go for a "sound design/shaping"a100 system..Or

> > > > for a

> > > > > > > "Basic

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > synth system"..I have read soo many links/seen youtube vids

> > > > etc etc

> > > > > > > but

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > really I wanted to hear it from the horses mouth, so to speak

> > > > before

> > > > > > > I make

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > my order.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Does anyone have a "sound rape a100" system they can offer

> > > > advice

> > > > > > > on? lol

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Thanks for reading :)

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Re: [Doepfer_a100] Re: Newby Seeking Chaos

2010-06-04 by Joachim

Hi,

don't forget the A132-3!
I have 2 of em and like em more than my A131.

Sadly this happened:
 >>
As the special circuit CEM3360 used in this module is no longer 
available the module has to be discontinued. Sale while stocks last ! 
But there are plans to redesign this module without the use of CEM3360. <<

Cheers
Joachim

Carci schrieb:
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> Well, he already has a Metasonix scrotum smasher so I guess the neighbors  already moved =)
> If not, they definitely will.
> 
> 
> 
> In my opinion, regarding VCAs, you should get a A131 instead of the A132-1.
> That's one single VCA instead of dual but you have very few control modules in your system and you'll have much less possibilities with the A132 (no attenuator for CV, no attenuator for signals, no manual gain...). 
> And A132 is more suited to amplify control voltages, it was not designed for audio signals. So if you only have one VCA this is not the good choice.
> 
> 
> Of course, the best option is A131 + A132...
> 
> --- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, "York Luethje" <ybl@...> wrote:
>> Do you have neighbors you care about? Cuz they will hate you!
>> Sent via BlackBerry
>>
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------------
> 
> Yahoo! Groups Links
> 
> 
>

Re: [Doepfer_a100] Re: Newby Seeking Chaos

2010-06-05 by Joachim

Hi,

I'd like to note that the B:assMaster provides a only a soft 
'overdrive', it is not the mega destroyer.

Some of the VCAs are capable to be driven to distortion, e.g. the A131.
For some this is a feature for others a bug. The A132-3 is more clean 
sounding. That's why I have both so I've got more choices. ;)

The plague bearer really is a beast and cheap and small, too.

If you want chaos you might as well also check out the Make Noise 
Wogglebug, the Malekko Wiard Noisering, the Doepfer A149-1 and the 
Doepfer A118. I have them all except the Wogglebug (I don't like the
Make Noise layout for it, although I like the Maths layout).
You can hear a Noisering as modulator here:
http://soundcloud.com/changeling/2010-01-23-modular-noiz-part1
http://soundcloud.com/changeling/2010-01-23-modular-noiz-part2
It's not a very musical demo because I was just playing around.

I would also recommend an Attenverting Mixer from Fonitronik.
It combines a mixer, quad offset generator and a quad polarizer (a 
polarizer includes an attenuator but can also invert the signal). It's a 
bit like an A138c on dope with individual outputs and without the output 
pot (which can be handy at times). ;)
http://www.fonitronik.com/Page2.html

Cheers
Joachim

doof_per schrieb:
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> 
> Wow.
> 
> The response & knowledge being shed is amazing. Thank you, I am very grateful (David, York, Nick, Ernst & the others :)
> 
> So im really starting to understand this more and more by the click of my mouse :)
> 
> Here is my updated list..I think this should cover it!?
> 
> Other Brands:
> Geiger Counter 			
> B:assMaster 	
> Metasonix R53					
> 
> Doepfer:
> A100P9 (case)				
> A-143-1 Quad AD Generator	
> A138-b log Mixer		
> A-114 Ring Modulator		
> A132-1 Dual VCA		
> A119 input					
> A137-1 & A137-2 Wave Multipliers, 	
> A106 Xtrene Filter
> A-111-5 Dark Energy (Why the hell not!)		
> A190-2 MIDI (For Dark Energy)
> 
> Can I make loud demonic noises yet pllllease?!?
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