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Vote for the new 'serge VCS inspired' A-100 module poll!

Vote for the new 'serge VCS inspired' A-100 module poll!

2012-11-19 by Bakis Sirros

hi list,

i just created a new poll, ordered from Dieter himself.

its about a possible 'Serge Voltage Controlled Slope' inspired A100 module!
http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/Doepfer_a100/surveys?id=13160415


it will be manufactured with the license of the copyright owners of the Serge module, ( and it may also have additions that Ken stone has designed).

the poll will remain open for one month, until 19th of December.

so, spend a few seconds and Vote for it!

thanks,    :-)

Bakis.

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Re: [Doepfer_a100] Vote for the new 'serge VCS inspired' A-100 module poll!

2012-11-19 by Jesse Buehler

Wow. Those last two polls are a great sign!  If these are really something Dieter is considering, I like the direction he's going!

Sent from my iPhone

On Nov 19, 2012, at 9:24 AM, Bakis Sirros <synth_freak_2000@yahoo.com> wrote:

> hi list,
> 
> i just created a new poll, ordered from Dieter himself.
> 
> its about a possible 'Serge Voltage Controlled Slope' inspired A100 module!
> http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/Doepfer_a100/surveys?id=13160415
> 
> it will be manufactured with the license of the copyright owners of the Serge module, ( and it may also have additions that Ken stone has designed).
> 
> the poll will remain open for one month, until 19th of December.
> 
> so, spend a few seconds and Vote for it!
> 
> thanks,    :-)
> 
> Bakis.
> 
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> 
> 


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Re: [Doepfer_a100] Vote for the new 'serge VCS inspired' A-100 module poll!

2012-11-19 by Bakis Sirros

the last poll, about the 'VC Slope inspired' module IS FOR SURE a module Dieter is considering seriously!


 
Bakis 


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Wow. Those last two polls are a great sign!  If these are really something Dieter is considering, I like the direction he's going!

Sent from my iPhone

On Nov 19, 2012, at 9:24 AM, Bakis Sirros <synth_freak_2000@yahoo.com> wrote:

> hi list,
> 
> i just created a new poll, ordered from Dieter himself.
> 
> its about a possible 'Serge Voltage Controlled Slope' inspired A100 module!
> http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/Doepfer_a100/surveys?id=13160415
> 
> it will be manufactured with the license of the copyright owners of the Serge module, ( and it may also have additions that Ken stone has designed).
> 
> the poll will remain open for one month, until 19th of December.
> 
> so, spend a few seconds and Vote for it!
> 
> thanks,    :-)
> 
> Bakis.
> 
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> 
> 

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Re: [Doepfer_a100] Vote for the new 'serge VCS inspired' A-100 module poll!

2012-11-19 by Jesse Buehler

Great. Is it a single channel vcs or a quad?  I'd love to see a serge ssg as well. I know the toppobrillo sport mod is based on that but its always out of stock and a little more complex than needed. 

 There's quite a few things Dieter has hinted at in the past that I'm sure would be big hits if he made them. The rest of the a-149-x modules come to mind. 

Sent from my iPhone

On Nov 19, 2012, at 10:21 AM, Bakis Sirros <synth_freak_2000@yahoo.com> wrote:

> the last poll, about the 'VC Slope inspired' module IS FOR SURE a module Dieter is considering seriously!
> 
>  
> Bakis 
> 
> ________________________________
> From: Jesse Buehler <pulsewidth2@hotmail.com>
> To: "Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com" <Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com> 
> Sent: Monday, November 19, 2012 4:40 PM
> Subject: Re: [Doepfer_a100] Vote for the new 'serge VCS inspired' A-100 module poll!
> 
> 
>   
> Wow. Those last two polls are a great sign! If these are really something Dieter is considering, I like the direction he's going!
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Nov 19, 2012, at 9:24 AM, Bakis Sirros <synth_freak_2000@yahoo.com> wrote:
> 
> > hi list,
> > 
> > i just created a new poll, ordered from Dieter himself.
> > 
> > its about a possible 'Serge Voltage Controlled Slope' inspired A100 module!
> > http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/Doepfer_a100/surveys?id=13160415
> > 
> > it will be manufactured with the license of the copyright owners of the Serge module, ( and it may also have additions that Ken stone has designed).
> > 
> > the poll will remain open for one month, until 19th of December.
> > 
> > so, spend a few seconds and Vote for it!
> > 
> > thanks, :-)
> > 
> > Bakis.
> > 
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > 
> > 
> 
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> 
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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> 


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A-171-2 VCS

2012-12-12 by yahoo@doepfer.de

As the negotiations with Serge and Ken Stone are nearly finished I decided
to publish the preliminary info page about the planned module on our
website:

www.doepfer.de/a1712.htm

Maybe we will add some features so that 3-position switches can be used
(e.g. log/lin/exp instead of log/lin only and two different cycle modes).
But these decisions depend upon the results with the first prototype which I
expect in January 2013.

Best wishes
Dieter Doepfer

Re: [Doepfer_a100] A-171-2 VCS

2012-12-12 by Bakis Sirros

Fantastic! each Doepfer system needs at least one!    :-)

 
well done Dieter.


Bakis 


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Subject: [Doepfer_a100] A-171-2 VCS
 

  
As the negotiations with Serge and Ken Stone are nearly finished I decided
to publish the preliminary info page about the planned module on our
website:

www.doepfer.de/a1712.htm

Maybe we will add some features so that 3-position switches can be used
(e.g. log/lin/exp instead of log/lin only and two different cycle modes).
But these decisions depend upon the results with the first prototype which I
expect in January 2013.

Best wishes
Dieter Doepfer


 

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RE: [Doepfer_a100] A-171-2 VCS

2012-12-12 by david.salter@thomsonreuters.com

Agreed, at least one. I have the Bananalogue VCS and a Maths (not the same but enough similarities) and I for one would like at least two of these, especially at the price point indicated. Superb value.

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Subject: Re: [Doepfer_a100] A-171-2 VCS



Fantastic! each Doepfer system needs at least one!    :-)


well done Dieter.

Bakis

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Subject: [Doepfer_a100] A-171-2 VCS



As the negotiations with Serge and Ken Stone are nearly finished I decided
to publish the preliminary info page about the planned module on our
website:

www.doepfer.de/a1712.htm

Maybe we will add some features so that 3-position switches can be used
(e.g. log/lin/exp instead of log/lin only and two different cycle modes).
But these decisions depend upon the results with the first prototype which I
expect in January 2013.

Best wishes
Dieter Doepfer

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Re: [Doepfer_a100] A-171-2 VCS

2012-12-12 by Bakis Sirros

if you could add one more output, a bipolar (AC coupled, symmetrical around zero volts) output, would be even greater.

but, i do not know if there is space for this. 

no big deal though. this can be easily 'patch-programmed' (to use Serge language), using a cv mixer and a dc-offset. piece of cake.

 


Bakis 


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Subject: RE: [Doepfer_a100] A-171-2 VCS
 

  
Agreed, at least one. I have the Bananalogue VCS and a Maths (not the same but enough similarities) and I for one would like at least two of these, especially at the price point indicated. Superb value.

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M 07990562402

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From: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Bakis Sirros
Sent: 12 December 2012 15:16
To: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Doepfer_a100] A-171-2 VCS

Fantastic! each Doepfer system needs at least one!    :-)

well done Dieter.

Bakis

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Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2012 5:11 PM
Subject: [Doepfer_a100] A-171-2 VCS

As the negotiations with Serge and Ken Stone are nearly finished I decided
to publish the preliminary info page about the planned module on our
website:

www.doepfer.de/a1712.htm

Maybe we will add some features so that 3-position switches can be used
(e.g. log/lin/exp instead of log/lin only and two different cycle modes).
But these decisions depend upon the results with the first prototype which I
expect in January 2013.

Best wishes
Dieter Doepfer

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AW: [Doepfer_a100] A-171-2 VCS

2012-12-12 by yahoo@doepfer.de

> if you could add one more output, a bipolar (AC coupled,
> symmetrical around zero volts) output, would be even greater.
>
> but, i do not know if there is space for this. 
>
> no big deal though. this can be easily 'patch-programmed' (to use
> Serge language), using a cv mixer and a dc-offset. piece of cake.
>
> Bakis

There is no space for another socket left (unless we replace one of the
sockets). We wanted to keep the 8HP and that's why we omitted the bipolar
and AC output as well as the common CV input (instead of this the two CV
inputs are normalled). In combination with A-100 modules the bipolar output
is not required because you have an offset control for virtually each
parameter (e.g. VCA initial gain or VCF/VCO frequency) which can be used to
shift the parameter value into the desired range. And in case that it's
essential we have the A-183-2 available.

Best wishes
Dieter Doepfer

Re: [Doepfer_a100] A-171-2 VCS

2012-12-12 by achtung_999

This is going to be an excellent addition to any system!
I think I need 2 already :D

On Wed, Dec 12, 2012 at 5:01 PM, <yahoo@doepfer.de> wrote:

> > if you could add one more output, a bipolar (AC coupled,
> > symmetrical around zero volts) output, would be even greater.
> >
> > but, i do not know if there is space for this.
> >
> > no big deal though. this can be easily 'patch-programmed' (to use
> > Serge language), using a cv mixer and a dc-offset. piece of cake.
> >
> > Bakis
>
> There is no space for another socket left (unless we replace one of the
> sockets). We wanted to keep the 8HP and that's why we omitted the bipolar
> and AC output as well as the common CV input (instead of this the two CV
> inputs are normalled). In combination with A-100 modules the bipolar output
> is not required because you have an offset control for virtually each
> parameter (e.g. VCA initial gain or VCF/VCO frequency) which can be used to
> shift the parameter value into the desired range. And in case that it's
> essential we have the A-183-2 available.
>
> Best wishes
> Dieter Doepfer
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
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>
>
>


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Re: [Doepfer_a100] A-171-2 VCS

2012-12-12 by Jesse Buehler

True. If I didn't already have a DIY quad  vcs, I'd take 2-3 of these!  I hope this sells well though, so more serge inspired modules come to be.

This is perfect for a mini west coast system.

Sent from my iPhone

On Dec 12, 2012, at 11:19 AM, achtung_999 <heinrich.himmelwasser@gmail.com> wrote:

> This is going to be an excellent addition to any system!
> I think I need 2 already :D
> 
> On Wed, Dec 12, 2012 at 5:01 PM, <yahoo@doepfer.de> wrote:
> 
> > > if you could add one more output, a bipolar (AC coupled,
> > > symmetrical around zero volts) output, would be even greater.
> > >
> > > but, i do not know if there is space for this.
> > >
> > > no big deal though. this can be easily 'patch-programmed' (to use
> > > Serge language), using a cv mixer and a dc-offset. piece of cake.
> > >
> > > Bakis
> >
> > There is no space for another socket left (unless we replace one of the
> > sockets). We wanted to keep the 8HP and that's why we omitted the bipolar
> > and AC output as well as the common CV input (instead of this the two CV
> > inputs are normalled). In combination with A-100 modules the bipolar output
> > is not required because you have an offset control for virtually each
> > parameter (e.g. VCA initial gain or VCF/VCO frequency) which can be used to
> > shift the parameter value into the desired range. And in case that it's
> > essential we have the A-183-2 available.
> >
> > Best wishes
> > Dieter Doepfer
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------------
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
> >
> 
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Re: [Doepfer_a100] A-171-2 VCS

2012-12-12 by jim@cernproductions.com

Dieter - could we have a feature which pre-empts the note you are about
to play and slides there in advance?

thanks, J.





On Wed, Dec 12, 2012, at 03:11 PM, [1]yahoo@doepfer.de wrote:



As the negotiations with Serge and Ken Stone are nearly finished I
decided
to publish the preliminary info page about the planned module on our
website:
www.doepfer.de/a1712.htm
Maybe we will add some features so that 3-position switches can be used
(e.g. log/lin/exp instead of log/lin only and two different cycle
modes).
But these decisions depend upon the results with the first prototype
which I
expect in January 2013.
Best wishes
Dieter Doepfer


References

1. mailto:yahoo@doepfer.de
2. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Doepfer_a100/post;_ylc=X3oDMTJxbGxnZWY0BF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzMxODM3MDYEZ3Jwc3BJZAMxNzA1MDMyMTQ0BG1zZ0lkAzI0MzM1BHNlYwNmdHIEc2xrA3JwbHkEc3RpbWUDMTM1NTMyNTA2Ng--?act=reply&messageNum=24335
3. mailto:yahoo@doepfer.de?subject=Re%3A%20A-171-2%20VCS
4. mailto:Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com?subject=Re%3A%20A-171-2%20VCS
5. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Doepfer_a100/post;_ylc=X3oDMTJlNHY2YXI0BF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzMxODM3MDYEZ3Jwc3BJZAMxNzA1MDMyMTQ0BHNlYwNmdHIEc2xrA250cGMEc3RpbWUDMTM1NTMyNTA2Ng--
6. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Doepfer_a100/message/24265;_ylc=X3oDMTM2YWx0aG1zBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzMxODM3MDYEZ3Jwc3BJZAMxNzA1MDMyMTQ0BG1zZ0lkAzI0MzM1BHNlYwNmdHIEc2xrA3Z0cGMEc3RpbWUDMTM1NTMyNTA2NgR0cGNJZAMyNDI2NQ--
7. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Doepfer_a100/polls;_ylc=X3oDMTJncGxtMmk0BF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzMxODM3MDYEZ3Jwc3BJZAMxNzA1MDMyMTQ0BHNlYwN2dGwEc2xrA3Zwb2xscwRzdGltZQMxMzU1MzI1MDY2
8. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Doepfer_a100;_ylc=X3oDMTJldTU0ZnQ2BF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzMxODM3MDYEZ3Jwc3BJZAMxNzA1MDMyMTQ0BHNlYwN2dGwEc2xrA3ZnaHAEc3RpbWUDMTM1NTMyNTA2Ng--
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Re: [Doepfer_a100] A-171-2 VCS

2012-12-12 by Geoff Coward

One small question, would the polarizer controls be marked -5 to +5 rather than 0 to 10?

Thanks.

Geoff


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To: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2012 7:11 AM
Subject: [Doepfer_a100] A-171-2 VCS
 

  
As the negotiations with Serge and Ken Stone are nearly finished I decided
to publish the preliminary info page about the planned module on our
website:

www.doepfer.de/a1712.htm

Maybe we will add some features so that 3-position switches can be used
(e.g. log/lin/exp instead of log/lin only and two different cycle modes).
But these decisions depend upon the results with the first prototype which I
expect in January 2013.

Best wishes
Dieter Doepfer


 

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AW: [Doepfer_a100] A-171-2 VCS

2012-12-13 by yahoo@doepfer.de

> One small question, would the polarizer controls be marked -5 to 
> +5 rather than 0 to 10?
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> Geoff

I forgot to copy the latest version of the front panel layout to the website. Now the right one is online.

Best wishes
Dieter Doepfer

AW: [Doepfer_a100] A-171-2 VCS

2012-12-13 by yahoo@doepfer.de

> Dieter - could we have a feature which pre-empts the note you are about
> to play and slides there in advance?
> 
> thanks, J.

The module is a copy of the Serge/CGS design. I don't know if this feature is included as we do not yet have a working unit available. We just started to draw the schematics and then the pcb layout will follow early next year. Maybe there are members who own the VCS and know details.

Best wishes
Dieter Doepfer

Re: AW: [Doepfer_a100] A-171-2 VCS

2012-12-13 by Jesse Buehler

How could a module 'know' what note you want to slide into?  This is something that could be accomplished by a sequencer where to notes are in memory. You're asking for something like the TB303 sequencer's slide. Not really possible as far as I know. 

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On Dec 13, 2012, at 5:04 AM, <yahoo@doepfer.de> wrote:

> > Dieter - could we have a feature which pre-empts the note you are about
> > to play and slides there in advance?
> > 
> > thanks, J.
> 
> The module is a copy of the Serge/CGS design. I don't know if this feature is included as we do not yet have a working unit available. We just started to draw the schematics and then the pcb layout will follow early next year. Maybe there are members who own the VCS and know details.
> 
> Best wishes
> Dieter Doepfer
> 
> 


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Re: [Doepfer_a100] A-171-2 VCS

2012-12-13 by Zoë Blade

> How could a module 'know' what note you want to slide into?  This is something that could be accomplished by a sequencer where to notes are in memory. You're asking for something like the TB303 sequencer's slide. Not really possible as far as I know. 

Yeah, if it's a sincere question and not a joke, then you're right.  It's the sequencer's job to change the pitch voltage pre-emptively while simultaneously sending a gate signal to the slew limiter to induce the sliding effect.  Although I can't remember off the top of my head if the TB-303's sequencer actually does this or not.  I suspect the slide might merely activate the slew limiter, slowing the transition to the next note, not from the previous one.

Hope that helps,
Zoë.

Re: [Doepfer_a100] A-171-2 VCS

2012-12-13 by Florian Anwander

Hello

perhaps he is thinking about something like the autoslide at the old 
Roland SH-Series, which is a Decay-Envelope on the pitch-CV.

Florian

Am 13.12.2012 15:29, schrieb Jesse Buehler:
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> How could a module 'know' what note you want to slide into?  This is something that could be accomplished by a sequencer where to notes are in memory. You're asking for something like the TB303 sequencer's slide. Not really possible as far as I know.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Dec 13, 2012, at 5:04 AM, <yahoo@doepfer.de> wrote:
>
>>> Dieter - could we have a feature which pre-empts the note you are about
>>> to play and slides there in advance?
>>>
>>> thanks, J.
>>
>> The module is a copy of the Serge/CGS design. I don't know if this feature is included as we do not yet have a working unit available. We just started to draw the schematics and then the pcb layout will follow early next year. Maybe there are members who own the VCS and know details.
>>
>> Best wishes
>> Dieter Doepfer

Re: A-171-2 VCS

2012-12-13 by sirolffoonav

Great news that the serge/cgs/doepfer vcs is coming through.

I'm using lots of DUSG's since long and have 2 front panel tips:
-groups switches and led to gain space for extra (feedback?) knob
or ergonomics.
-UP/DOWN pots next to each other and both cv pots next to each other too.

Years ago we exchanged mails about a second board of the doepfer
diy synth featuring this module (and a noise generator).
I think a diy synth board packed with vcs would be ideal!! (and
close to the serge diy idea)
Or a West coast inspired pcb with lpg, random, wave shaper,
envelop follower and a couple of vcs?

Curious to hear how wider availability (because of lower price)
of this multi function module will sound!

Best, Floris Vanhoof
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> As the negotiations with Serge and Ken Stone are nearly finished I decided
> to publish the preliminary info page about the planned module on our
> website:
> 
> www.doepfer.de/a1712.htm
> 
> Maybe we will add some features so that 3-position switches can be used
> (e.g. log/lin/exp instead of log/lin only and two different cycle modes).
> But these decisions depend upon the results with the first prototype which I
> expect in January 2013.
> 
> Best wishes
> Dieter Doepfer
>

Re: [Doepfer_a100] A-171-2 VCS

2012-12-14 by Martin Fay

Bit of a late entry here, but there appears to be a choice between  
including the cycle switch (not found on a stock STS DUSG) or a  
bipolar output (present).

Cycle can be patch-programmed with a patch cord from Gate to Trigger,  
then  if Gate is used for anything else it would need to be mult-ed.

Bipolar can be patch-programmed using i.e. an offset/attenuator module.

Is this trade-off worth a poll at some point?

Martin

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On 12 Dec 2012, at 15:11, <yahoo@doepfer.de> wrote:

> As the negotiations with Serge and Ken Stone are nearly finished I  
> decided
> to publish the preliminary info page about the planned module on our
> website:
>
> www.doepfer.de/a1712.htm
>
> Maybe we will add some features so that 3-position switches can be  
> used
> (e.g. log/lin/exp instead of log/lin only and two different cycle  
> modes).
> But these decisions depend upon the results with the first prototype  
> which I
> expect in January 2013.
>
> Best wishes
> Dieter Doepfer
>
> 


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Re: [Doepfer_a100] A-171-2 VCS

2012-12-14 by Jim Credland

Sorry, it was only half serious.  Very dry humour on my part. 

It's a good question though in other ways if not strictly relevant for this thread.   Both predictive synthesis for live playing and (easier and tighter) emulating it in tools like csound is quite interesting ... effects and changes that happen before the main note comes in. The noise of a note being prepared...

I hadn't realised the TB303 sequencer operated like that though.  I could never afford one when I wanted one (and now I have a modular, I don't want one!)


On 13 Dec 2012, at 15:11, Florian Anwander wrote:

> Hello
> 
> perhaps he is thinking about something like the autoslide at the old 
> Roland SH-Series, which is a Decay-Envelope on the pitch-CV.
> 
> Florian
> 
> Am 13.12.2012 15:29, schrieb Jesse Buehler:
> > How could a module 'know' what note you want to slide into? This is something that could be accomplished by a sequencer where to notes are in memory. You're asking for something like the TB303 sequencer's slide. Not really possible as far as I know.
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >
> > On Dec 13, 2012, at 5:04 AM, <yahoo@doepfer.de> wrote:
> >
> >>> Dieter - could we have a feature which pre-empts the note you are about
> >>> to play and slides there in advance?
> >>>
> >>> thanks, J.
> >>
> >> The module is a copy of the Serge/CGS design. I don't know if this feature is included as we do not yet have a working unit available. We just started to draw the schematics and then the pcb layout will follow early next year. Maybe there are members who own the VCS and know details.
> >>
> >> Best wishes
> >> Dieter Doepfer
> 
> 



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Re: [Doepfer_a100] A-171-2 VCS

2012-12-14 by Zoë Blade

Ah, yes, csound can predict which note's coming up next because it's rendering a score, so it can just look ahead as if it's seeing the future.  This is kinda confusing when you first start using it, as (if I remember correctly) the envelop generators take into account when the note off signal will occur, before it's happened.  Nice enough for academic theory, but I do like doing everything in real time. :)

The TB-303's sequencer, or rather the concept of a digital step sequencer with accent and slide in general, is a really good one, especially in a modular context so you get to choose the filter, what the accent controls (eg toggling high and lowpass outputs of a multimode filter using a VC switch), and so on.  Hence my partner and I are building a digital step sequencer to use with my A-100: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oiV_uZcucrQ

Anyway, the fun joking question has some interesting serious answers. :D

All the best,
Zoë.

Re: [Doepfer_a100] A-171-2 VCS

2012-12-14 by Jesse Buehler

I say keep the switches. I don't have th on my quad slope but I really, really wish it did!  I'd rather an offset/attenuator for the far fewer times I've used bipolar outs. 

Ymmv of course. 

Sent from my iPhone

On Dec 14, 2012, at 4:49 AM, Martin Fay <martin@martinfay.com> wrote:

> Bit of a late entry here, but there appears to be a choice between 
> including the cycle switch (not found on a stock STS DUSG) or a 
> bipolar output (present).
> 
> Cycle can be patch-programmed with a patch cord from Gate to Trigger, 
> then if Gate is used for anything else it would need to be mult-ed.
> 
> Bipolar can be patch-programmed using i.e. an offset/attenuator module.
> 
> Is this trade-off worth a poll at some point?
> 
> Martin
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On 12 Dec 2012, at 15:11, <yahoo@doepfer.de> wrote:
> 
> > As the negotiations with Serge and Ken Stone are nearly finished I 
> > decided
> > to publish the preliminary info page about the planned module on our
> > website:
> >
> > www.doepfer.de/a1712.htm
> >
> > Maybe we will add some features so that 3-position switches can be 
> > used
> > (e.g. log/lin/exp instead of log/lin only and two different cycle 
> > modes).
> > But these decisions depend upon the results with the first prototype 
> > which I
> > expect in January 2013.
> >
> > Best wishes
> > Dieter Doepfer
> >
> > 
> 
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> 
> 


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Re: [Doepfer_a100] A-171-2 VCS

2012-12-14 by achtung_999

Regarding the bipolar attenuators. Could I humbly suggest 'center detent'
pots?

Ernst

On Fri, Dec 14, 2012 at 4:05 PM, Jesse Buehler <pulsewidth2@hotmail.com>wrote:

> **
>
>
> I say keep the switches. I don't have th on my quad slope but I really,
> really wish it did! I'd rather an offset/attenuator for the far fewer times
> I've used bipolar outs.
>
> Ymmv of course.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>
> On Dec 14, 2012, at 4:49 AM, Martin Fay <martin@martinfay.com> wrote:
>
> > Bit of a late entry here, but there appears to be a choice between
> > including the cycle switch (not found on a stock STS DUSG) or a
> > bipolar output (present).
> >
> > Cycle can be patch-programmed with a patch cord from Gate to Trigger,
> > then if Gate is used for anything else it would need to be mult-ed.
> >
> > Bipolar can be patch-programmed using i.e. an offset/attenuator module.
> >
> > Is this trade-off worth a poll at some point?
> >
> > Martin
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >
> > On 12 Dec 2012, at 15:11, <yahoo@doepfer.de> wrote:
> >
> > > As the negotiations with Serge and Ken Stone are nearly finished I
> > > decided
> > > to publish the preliminary info page about the planned module on our
> > > website:
> > >
> > > www.doepfer.de/a1712.htm
> > >
> > > Maybe we will add some features so that 3-position switches can be
> > > used
> > > (e.g. log/lin/exp instead of log/lin only and two different cycle
> > > modes).
> > > But these decisions depend upon the results with the first prototype
> > > which I
> > > expect in January 2013.
> > >
> > > Best wishes
> > > Dieter Doepfer
> > >
> > >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
> >
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>  
>


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