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In this day and age isn't there something you could run on a laptop in
conjunction with a Drehbank and an Expressionist that would simply
vaporize the pants off the Schaltwerk for comparable or not much more
money?

> -----Original Message-----
> From: ringmod45 [mailto:ringmod45@yahoo.com] 
> Sent: Tuesday, November 05, 2002 4:47 PM
> To: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [Doepfer_a100] Re: modular sequencer building blocks 
> and the proposed A154
> 
> 
> --- In Doepfer_a100@y..., Florian Anwander <Florian.Anwander@c...> 
> wrote:
> > Hi ringmod45
> > 
> > > who need a better understanding, please check out the following
> url.
> > > http://www.hotrodmotm.com/seq2.htm
> > > this is the most flexible system, that can tailored to your needs.
> > I didn't knwo this. This really the direction I want a system like
> this.
> > 
> > 
> > > basically the SH101 sequencer and arpeggiator.
> > Yes!!!! I love the SH101-style sequencer. I own the 101, the JX3P
> and the
> > MSQ-100 (MIDI-sequencer with realtime and 101 style!). I always
> wished a
> > 101 style in the Sc*%&twerk...
> 
> hi florian, 
> 
> i have been jonesing for a system like that too, ever since i found 
> out about the Emu system. it is also a very interactive environment 
> and highly conducive to on the fly and real time playing and 
> improvisation.
> 
> i own an Sh 101 as well and it is always connected to my A100. the Sh 
> 101 sequencer is a simple and easy to operate sequencer. it is the 
> ideal way to develop quick ideas on the A100. once the phrase is done 
> off to the MPC it goes for more editing  and eventually to a song 
> chain with other patterns. they should consider building one to go 
> with the A100.
> 
> you would be able to do SH 101 style sequences with the Schaltwerk, 
> if the Bloody thing would have a tied note function, you could chain 
> a whole bunch of patterns together to get phrases longer than 16 
> steps. 
> 
> on the doepfer website forum, Chris Assal says there is 15% memory 
> left but continually refuses to acknowledge this fact after he has 
> written this statement. he says only ten people are dissatisfied with 
> their Schaltwerks( a bit of a pipe dream when you consider the amount 
> of people selling their schaltwerks(oops, i guess they got tired of 
> doing straight 16th note sequences)). imagine all the people who 
> aren`t buying it because it doesn`t have such a simple musical 
> function implemented. WHAT DO WE HAVE TO DO TO IMPLEMENT A FEW LINES 
> OF CODE TO HAVE A SIMPLE MUSICAL FUNCTION LIKE TIED NOTES. 
> 
> > 
> > 
> > One module which could give this system its market power 
> should be a 
> > MIDI-Out. So Doepfer would sell this module line not only to the
> anlogue
> > fetishists, but also to all MIDIicians.
> 
> i agree, this would help recoup the initial investment and give 
> doepfer a faster return on investment and also introduce midi guys to 
> the A100 world.
> 
> > 
> > Florian
> > -- 
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> GmbH
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--- In Doepfer_a100@y..., unknown freak <cgraef@n...> wrote:
> In this day and age isn't there something you could run on a laptop in
> conjunction with a Drehbank and an Expressionist that would simply
> vaporize the pants off the Schaltwerk for comparable or not much more
> money?

I don't know if the cost would be comparable, but you could use MAX on a 
Mac with a Drehbank and it would work. I've made analog like sequencers 
with Max before and they work. I used on screen sliders for the note values, 
but the Drehbank would work much better. I have the older Max (pre-MSP) 
and it can be compiled to run on very old Macs (I have it doing simple things 
on a couple of old Apple IIci machines!). I should look into this. I don't have a 
Drehbank but do have a JL Cooper fademaster I could try out the concept 
with. Thanks for the Idea!
-James

Cool -- curious to hear how this works out if you do try it.

-----Original Message-----
From: ersatzplanet [mailto:james@ersatzplanet.com]
Sent: Tuesday, November 05, 2002 7:20 PM
To: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Doepfer_a100] Re: modular sequencer building blocks and the
proposed A154


--- In Doepfer_a100@y..., unknown freak <cgraef@n...> wrote:
> In this day and age isn't there something you could run on a laptop in
> conjunction with a Drehbank and an Expressionist that would simply
> vaporize the pants off the Schaltwerk for comparable or not much more
> money?

I don't know if the cost would be comparable, but you could use MAX on a
Mac with a Drehbank and it would work. I've made analog like sequencers
with Max before and they work. I used on screen sliders for the note values,
but the Drehbank would work much better. I have the older Max (pre-MSP)
and it can be compiled to run on very old Macs (I have it doing simple
things
on a couple of old Apple IIci machines!). I should look into this. I don't
have a
Drehbank but do have a JL Cooper fademaster I could try out the concept
with. Thanks for the Idea!
-James


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hi james, ersatzplanet as in Adult land by way of the Motorcity.

sounds good and i,too, would like to hear about your results.

there are new developments happening in the Mac community with OSX 
10.2 and midi, which is becoming interesting. Midi will become as 
tightand solid as the atari, if not there better, because it is being 
dealt with at the OS level.

 Max Msp is a very powerful tool and is not everyone`s cup of tea.
however, there is a company that has very similar analog sequencer 
modules that could be used with a laptop to simulate this building 
block approach without the programming involved with Max Msp.

the company is Mil productions. please check out there website at the 
following Url.

http://www.milprod.com/modularing/modules/

their software will become OSX comptible in the next few months. this 
is one scenario i may venture into, if it is tight and fairly crash 
proof. 

regards,
RM


--- In Doepfer_a100@y..., "unknown freak" <cgraef@n...> wrote:
> Cool -- curious to hear how this works out if you do try it.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: ersatzplanet [mailto:james@e...]
> Sent: Tuesday, November 05, 2002 7:20 PM
> To: Doepfer_a100@y...
> Subject: [Doepfer_a100] Re: modular sequencer building blocks and 
the
> proposed A154
> 
> 
> --- In Doepfer_a100@y..., unknown freak <cgraef@n...> wrote:
> > In this day and age isn't there something you could run on a 
laptop in
> > conjunction with a Drehbank and an Expressionist that would simply
> > vaporize the pants off the Schaltwerk for comparable or not much 
more
> > money?
> 
> I don't know if the cost would be comparable, but you could use MAX 
on a
> Mac with a Drehbank and it would work. I've made analog like 
sequencers
> with Max before and they work. I used on screen sliders for the 
note values,
> but the Drehbank would work much better. I have the older Max (pre-
MSP)
> and it can be compiled to run on very old Macs (I have it doing 
simple
> things
> on a couple of old Apple IIci machines!). I should look into this. 
I don't
> have a
> Drehbank but do have a JL Cooper fademaster I could try out the 
concept
> with. Thanks for the Idea!
> -James
> 
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Hi unknown freak 

> In this day and age isn't there something you could run on a laptop in
> conjunction with a Drehbank and an Expressionist that would simply
> vaporize the pants off the Schaltwerk for comparable or not much more
> money?
Of course you can, but you also can replace the A100 by the laptop with
some NI software. There are always several ways to do it.

Florian
-- 
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Tel.   +49.89.45841-133           |Consulting&Solutions Software GmbH
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> with Max before and they work. I used on screen sliders for the 
> note values, but the Drehbank would work much better. I have the 
> older Max (pre-

Ircam (the original MAX/MSP developers)
have developed an opensource version of 
MAX for Java.  They call it JMAX. 

You can find it here:
http://www.ircam.fr/equipes/temps-reel/jmax/en/index.php3

user info for JMAX on Mac OSX here:
http://artengine.ca/jmax/howto-macosx.html

and JAMX on Windows here:
http://www.hanappe.org/jmax.html

I think you can also run JMAX on
Linux and Irix.

Enjoy!

Ethan

True, but I was speaking here merely of vaporization of the Schaltwerk's
pants.  Vaporizing the pants of the A-100 is impossible at this stage and
probably for years to come.  One is tonality, the other, simply sequencing.

-----Original Message-----
From: Florian.Anwander@consol.de [mailto:Florian.Anwander@consol.de]
Sent: Wednesday, November 06, 2002 3:36 AM
To: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Doepfer_a100] Re: modular sequencer building blocks and
the proposed A154


Hi unknown freak

> In this day and age isn't there something you could run on a laptop in
> conjunction with a Drehbank and an Expressionist that would simply
> vaporize the pants off the Schaltwerk for comparable or not much more
> money?
Of course you can, but you also can replace the A100 by the laptop with
some NI software. There are always several ways to do it.

Florian
--
Florian Anwander                  |ConSol*  HP-Support
Tel.   +49.89.45841-133           |Consulting&Solutions Software GmbH
Fax    +49.89.45841-139           |Franziskanerstr. 38, D-81669 München
email: florian.anwander@consol.de |http://www.consol.de

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