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Re: Is my A-118 malfunctioning?

Re: Is my A-118 malfunctioning?

2001-12-11 by studio1dk

I must say that I agree totally with you -this way you have more 
options with the random output. 
Keld

--- In Doepfer_a100@y..., bakis Sirros <synth_freak_2000@y...> wrote:
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> hello list,
> i must say that i prefer it,to work this way.it,'
> better to be able to change the random out according
> to the blue and red knobs.
> synthfreak
> 
> --- Richard Guido <rguido@t...> wrote:
> > So, it seems that the A118 as shipped from Doepfer
> > works differently from
> > what the documentation says and differently from a
> > logical perspective of
> > how it is labeled.  My question is this -- why don't
> > they configure it
> > "right" in the first place?  I don't want to have
> > the modify a product to
> > work properly AFTER I buy it.  
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: studio1dk [mailto:keld.soerensen1@s...]
> > Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2001 9:20 AM
> > To: Doepfer_a100@y...
> > Subject: [Doepfer_a100] Re: Is my A-118
> > malfunctioning?
> > 
> > 
> > This was the mail I recived from Dieter Doepfer on
> > the subject:
> > 
> > That's normal as the random output is derived from
> > the colored noise 
> > (factory setting). It is possible to derive the
> > random output from 
> > the white noise so that the red and blue pots do not
> > influence the 
> > random output.  For this the resistor R12 (100k) has
> > to be removed 
> > and soldered to the position R12' (with apostrophe).
> > The position of 
> > R12' is next to R12 and marked with a broken line
> > (behind the random 
> > rate potentiometer).
> > 
> > Best regards
> > Dieter Doepfer
> > Doepfer Musikelektronik GmbH
> > http://www.doepfer.de
> > email: hardware@d...
> > 
> > 
> > --- In Doepfer_a100@y..., Richard Guido
> > <rguido@t...> wrote:
> > > Ok, let's put this into perspective! Here's how
> > the thing should 
> > work, if it
> > > doesn't work this way there's a design flaw or
> > something. First, 
> > White noise
> > > out, no variation when any of the knobs are
> > turned.  Second, 
> > colored noise
> > > out is controlled by the blue and red knobs -
> > these should ONLY 
> > affect the
> > > output of the colored noise.  Third, random output
> > is controlled by 
> > the rate
> > > and level knobs and ONLY those knobs!  So, is this
> > what happens?  
> > If not,
> > > the damn thing wasn't designed right.  
> > > 
> > > RJG
> > > 
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: studio1dk [mailto:keld.soerensen1@s...]
> > > Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2001 7:20 AM
> > > To: Doepfer_a100@y...
> > > Subject: Re: [Doepfer_a100] Is my A-118
> > malfunctioning?
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Dieter just wrote to me that it is normal -it´s
> > supposed to work 
> > that 
> > > way. You can disconnect the colored noise and
> > connect the white 
> > noise 
> > > if you want to. Thereby eliminating the influence
> > of the red and 
> > blue 
> > > pot.
> > > 
> > > Keld
> > > --- In Doepfer_a100@y..., "martin olson"
> > <martin@t...> wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > I´ve also noticed this phenomena, i thought it
> > was a malfunction 
> > > when i first tried it, but even stranger is that
> > the rate pot. 
> > seems 
> > > to be working in the opposite direction...?..
> > > > 
> > > > ///dnfn\\\
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > > Doepfer_a100@y... davevosh@a...: Sat, 8 Dec
> > 2001 18:23:51 EST
> > > > > Re: [Doepfer_a100] Is my A-118
> > malfunctioning?Reply-To: 
> > > Doepfer_a100@y...
> > > > >
> > > > >In a message dated 12/8/2001 5:17:56 PM Eastern
> > Standard Time, 
> > > > >keld.soerensen1@s... writes:
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >> I was looking at the output of the random
> > output from the A-
> > 118 
> > > noise 
> > > > >> module on an oscilloscope as I noticed that
> > turningthe "red 
> > pot" 
> > > had 
> > > > >> an effect on the waveform. Is this supposed
> > to happen? -I 
> > > thought 
> > > > >> that the random out was independent from the
> > other two outs.
> > > > >> 
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >keld,
> > > > >it points out somewhere in the "man pages" for
> > the module that 
> > the 
> > > noise 
> > > > >level controls interact with the r.v. output.
> > > > >best,
> > > > >dave
> > > > >
> > > > > 
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >[Non-text portions of this message have been
> > removed]
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >To unsubscribe from this group, send an email
> > to:
> > > > >doepfer_a100-unsubscribe@y...
> > > > >
> > > > > 
> > > > >
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> > > http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > >
> >
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> 
> 
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RE: [Doepfer_a100] Re: Is my A-118 malfunctioning?

2001-12-11 by Richard Guido

So, it seems that the A118 as shipped from Doepfer works differently from
what the documentation says and differently from a logical perspective of
how it is labeled.  My question is this -- why don't they configure it
"right" in the first place?  I don't want to have the modify a product to
work properly AFTER I buy it.  
Show quoted textHide quoted text
-----Original Message-----
From: studio1dk [mailto:keld.soerensen1@skolekom.dk]
Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2001 9:20 AM
To: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Doepfer_a100] Re: Is my A-118 malfunctioning?


This was the mail I recived from Dieter Doepfer on the subject:

That's normal as the random output is derived from the colored noise 
(factory setting). It is possible to derive the random output from 
the white noise so that the red and blue pots do not influence the 
random output.  For this the resistor R12 (100k) has to be removed 
and soldered to the position R12' (with apostrophe). The position of 
R12' is next to R12 and marked with a broken line (behind the random 
rate potentiometer).

Best regards
Dieter Doepfer
Doepfer Musikelektronik GmbH
http://www.doepfer.de
email: hardware@doepfer.de


--- In Doepfer_a100@y..., Richard Guido <rguido@t...> wrote:
> Ok, let's put this into perspective! Here's how the thing should 
work, if it
> doesn't work this way there's a design flaw or something. First, 
White noise
> out, no variation when any of the knobs are turned.  Second, 
colored noise
> out is controlled by the blue and red knobs - these should ONLY 
affect the
> output of the colored noise.  Third, random output is controlled by 
the rate
> and level knobs and ONLY those knobs!  So, is this what happens?  
If not,
> the damn thing wasn't designed right.  
> 
> RJG
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: studio1dk [mailto:keld.soerensen1@s...]
> Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2001 7:20 AM
> To: Doepfer_a100@y...
> Subject: Re: [Doepfer_a100] Is my A-118 malfunctioning?
> 
> 
> Dieter just wrote to me that it is normal -it´s supposed to work 
that 
> way. You can disconnect the colored noise and connect the white 
noise 
> if you want to. Thereby eliminating the influence of the red and 
blue 
> pot.
> 
> Keld
> --- In Doepfer_a100@y..., "martin olson" <martin@t...> wrote:
> > 
> > I´ve also noticed this phenomena, i thought it was a malfunction 
> when i first tried it, but even stranger is that the rate pot. 
seems 
> to be working in the opposite direction...?..
> > 
> > ///dnfn\\\
> > 
> > 
> > > Doepfer_a100@y... davevosh@a...: Sat, 8 Dec 2001 18:23:51 EST
> > > Re: [Doepfer_a100] Is my A-118 malfunctioning?Reply-To: 
> Doepfer_a100@y...
> > >
> > >In a message dated 12/8/2001 5:17:56 PM Eastern Standard Time, 
> > >keld.soerensen1@s... writes:
> > >
> > >
> > >> I was looking at the output of the random output from the A-
118 
> noise 
> > >> module on an oscilloscope as I noticed that turningthe "red 
pot" 
> had 
> > >> an effect on the waveform. Is this supposed to happen? -I 
> thought 
> > >> that the random out was independent from the other two outs.
> > >> 
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >keld,
> > >it points out somewhere in the "man pages" for the module that 
the 
> noise 
> > >level controls interact with the r.v. output.
> > >best,
> > >dave
> > >
> > > 
> > >
> > >
> > >[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
> > >doepfer_a100-unsubscribe@y...
> > >
> > > 
> > >
> > >Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to 
> http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ 
> > 
> > 
> > ------------------------------------------------------------
> > wood.  fire.  hand.  go.  http://www.bullseyeart.com
> 
> 
> 
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RE: [Doepfer_a100] Re: Is my A-118 malfunctioning?

2001-12-11 by bakis Sirros

hello list,
i must say that i prefer it,to work this way.it,'
better to be able to change the random out according
to the blue and red knobs.
synthfreak

--- Richard Guido <rguido@tibcofinance.com> wrote:
> So, it seems that the A118 as shipped from Doepfer
> works differently from
> what the documentation says and differently from a
> logical perspective of
> how it is labeled.  My question is this -- why don't
> they configure it
> "right" in the first place?  I don't want to have
> the modify a product to
> work properly AFTER I buy it.  
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: studio1dk [mailto:keld.soerensen1@skolekom.dk]
> Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2001 9:20 AM
> To: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [Doepfer_a100] Re: Is my A-118
> malfunctioning?
> 
> 
> This was the mail I recived from Dieter Doepfer on
> the subject:
> 
> That's normal as the random output is derived from
> the colored noise 
> (factory setting). It is possible to derive the
> random output from 
> the white noise so that the red and blue pots do not
> influence the 
> random output.  For this the resistor R12 (100k) has
> to be removed 
> and soldered to the position R12' (with apostrophe).
> The position of 
> R12' is next to R12 and marked with a broken line
> (behind the random 
> rate potentiometer).
> 
> Best regards
> Dieter Doepfer
> Doepfer Musikelektronik GmbH
> http://www.doepfer.de
> email: hardware@doepfer.de
> 
> 
> --- In Doepfer_a100@y..., Richard Guido
> <rguido@t...> wrote:
> > Ok, let's put this into perspective! Here's how
> the thing should 
> work, if it
> > doesn't work this way there's a design flaw or
> something. First, 
> White noise
> > out, no variation when any of the knobs are
> turned.  Second, 
> colored noise
> > out is controlled by the blue and red knobs -
> these should ONLY 
> affect the
> > output of the colored noise.  Third, random output
> is controlled by 
> the rate
> > and level knobs and ONLY those knobs!  So, is this
> what happens?  
> If not,
> > the damn thing wasn't designed right.  
> > 
> > RJG
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: studio1dk [mailto:keld.soerensen1@s...]
> > Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2001 7:20 AM
> > To: Doepfer_a100@y...
> > Subject: Re: [Doepfer_a100] Is my A-118
> malfunctioning?
> > 
> > 
> > Dieter just wrote to me that it is normal -it�s
> supposed to work 
> that 
> > way. You can disconnect the colored noise and
> connect the white 
> noise 
> > if you want to. Thereby eliminating the influence
> of the red and 
> blue 
> > pot.
> > 
> > Keld
> > --- In Doepfer_a100@y..., "martin olson"
> <martin@t...> wrote:
> > > 
> > > I�ve also noticed this phenomena, i thought it
> was a malfunction 
> > when i first tried it, but even stranger is that
> the rate pot. 
> seems 
> > to be working in the opposite direction...?..
> > > 
> > > ///dnfn\\\
> > > 
> > > 
> > > > Doepfer_a100@y... davevosh@a...: Sat, 8 Dec
> 2001 18:23:51 EST
> > > > Re: [Doepfer_a100] Is my A-118
> malfunctioning?Reply-To: 
> > Doepfer_a100@y...
> > > >
> > > >In a message dated 12/8/2001 5:17:56 PM Eastern
> Standard Time, 
> > > >keld.soerensen1@s... writes:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >> I was looking at the output of the random
> output from the A-
> 118 
> > noise 
> > > >> module on an oscilloscope as I noticed that
> turningthe "red 
> pot" 
> > had 
> > > >> an effect on the waveform. Is this supposed
> to happen? -I 
> > thought 
> > > >> that the random out was independent from the
> other two outs.
> > > >> 
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >keld,
> > > >it points out somewhere in the "man pages" for
> the module that 
> the 
> > noise 
> > > >level controls interact with the r.v. output.
> > > >best,
> > > >dave
> > > >
> > > > 
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >[Non-text portions of this message have been
> removed]
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >To unsubscribe from this group, send an email
> to:
> > > >doepfer_a100-unsubscribe@y...
> > > >
> > > > 
> > > >
> > > >Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to 
> > http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ 
> > > 
> > > 
> > >
>
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> > 
> > 
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> 


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