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> On 29 Jan 2015, at 13:48, David Kellett davidkellettwoulf@yahoo.com [Doepfer_a100] <Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
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> I'm very excited about the Waldorf nW1 for Eurorack!! I have various hardware Waldorf's (Q+, XTk, MicroQ keyboard, sold my Pulse 1 and RackAttack) and I love the Wavetable sound. I loved the PPG but was too young / poor to ever own one so I've always had a soft spot for the PPG lineage of the Waldorf synths. 
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> Has anyone here tried one of the nW1s yet?
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> David 
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> www.movingisliving.co.uk
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> On 29 Jan 2015, at 21:44, Jonathan jss9h@aol.com [Doepfer_a100] <Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
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> Do tell more. This is something that has gone under my radar. Is it a wavetable module by Waldorf? Interesting how many "conventional" synth manufacturers are getting into Eurorack these days....I bet Korg will be next.
> 
> Jonathan Shapero
> From my iPad Air
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> > On 29 Jan 2015, at 13:48, David Kellett davidkellettwoulf@yahoo.com [Doepfer_a100] <Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
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> > I'm very excited about the Waldorf nW1 for Eurorack!! I have various hardware Waldorf's (Q+, XTk, MicroQ keyboard, sold my Pulse 1 and RackAttack) and I love the Wavetable sound. I loved the PPG but was too young / poor to ever own one so I've always had a soft spot for the PPG lineage of the Waldorf synths. 
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> > Has anyone here tried one of the nW1s yet?
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> > David 
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> > www.movingisliving.co.uk
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> On 30 Jan 2015, at 10:35, Florian Anwander fanwander@mnet-online.de [Doepfer_a100] <Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
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> Hello
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>> Am 29.01.2015 um 22:44 schrieb Jonathan jss9h@aol.com [Doepfer_a100]:
>> Interesting how many "conventional" synth manufacturers are getting into Eurorack these days....
> There are good arguments from the makers side:
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> A module is not sold as a complete device, but as an accessory. So you 
> don't have to care for the CE-compliance test. This test costs a lot of 
> money.
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> A model can be sold for nearly the same price (or even the same) as the 
> complete device. But the producer does not have buy the powersupply and 
> the casing (the most expensive hardware parts in a synth). Imagine a 
> Waldorf Rocket. It costs 210 Euros at Thomann. Now imagine, how much you 
> would have to pay in modules, to get a polyphonic oscillator with 
> arpeggiator, an analog VCF, a tricky little Decay Envelope, an LFO. If 
> they'd put out the Rocket for 350 Euros as euro rack module many of us 
> would buy it.
> 
> Also a modular system is creating the demand at the customer. A customer 
> that buys one module, soon will buy another one and this other module 
> will make him buy the next, and so on. A complete synth doesn't work 
> like this.
> Modular synth gear works like a loose leave edition: you'd never buy a 
> book for 100 USD, but no one cares if you start to buy a loose leave 
> series for $2 each week. And do that thorough one year...
> 
> Florian
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Yes all true. I was thinking about the price for "one oscillator" versus the not much more for a whole Blofeld synth with polyphony etc.

In a way I hope the big manufacturers don't get into the modular world too much. If Korg, Yamaha etc got into modulars I could see that squeezing the more boutique manufacturers out and I def don't want that.

David

www.movingisliving.co.uk

Sent from my iPhone

> On 30 Jan 2015, at 10:35, Florian Anwander fanwander@mnet-online.de [Doepfer_a100] wrote:
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> Hello
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>> Am 29.01.2015 um 22:44 schrieb Jonathan jss9h@aol.com [Doepfer_a100]:
>> Interesting how many "conventional" synth manufacturers are getting into Eurorack these days....
> There are good arguments from the makers side:
>
> A module is not sold as a complete device, but as an accessory. So you
> don't have to care for the CE-compliance test. This test costs a lot of
> money.
>
> A model can be sold for nearly the same price (or even the same) as the
> complete device. But the producer does not have buy the powersupply and
> the casing (the most expensive hardware parts in a synth). Imagine a
> Waldorf Rocket. It costs 210 Euros at Thomann. Now imagine, how much you
> would have to pay in modules, to get a polyphonic oscillator with
> arpeggiator, an analog VCF, a tricky little Decay Envelope, an LFO. If
> they'd put out the Rocket for 350 Euros as euro rack module many of us
> would buy it.
>
> Also a modular system is creating the demand at the customer. A customer
> that buys one module, soon will buy another one and this other module
> will make him buy the next, and so on. A complete synth doesn't work
> like this.
> Modular synth gear works like a loose leave edition: you'd never buy a
> book for 100 USD, but no one cares if you start to buy a loose leave
> series for $2 each week. And do that thorough one year...
>
> Florian
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> On 30 Jan 2015, at 10:35, Florian Anwander fanwander@mnet-online.de[Doepfer_a100] <Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
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> Hello
> 
>> Am 29.01.2015 um 22:44 schrieb Jonathan jss9h@aol.com[Doepfer_a100]:
>> Interesting how many "conventional" synthmanufacturers are getting into Eurorack these days....
> There are good arguments from the makers side:
> 
> A module is not sold as a complete device, but as an accessory. Soyou 
> don't have to care for the CE-compliance test. This test costs a lotof 
> money.
> 
> A model can be sold for nearly the same price (or even the same) asthe 
> complete device. But the producer does not have buy the powersupplyand 
> the casing (the most expensive hardware parts in a synth). Imagine a
> Waldorf Rocket. It costs 210 Euros at Thomann. Now imagine, how muchyou 
> would have to pay in modules, to get a polyphonic oscillator with
> arpeggiator, an analog VCF, a tricky little Decay Envelope, an LFO.If 
> they'd put out the Rocket for 350 Euros as euro rack module many ofus 
> would buy it.
> 
> Also a modular system is creating the demand at the customer. Acustomer 
> that buys one module, soon will buy another one and this othermodule 
> will make him buy the next, and so on. A complete synth doesn't work
> like this.
> Modular synth gear works like a loose leave edition: you'd never buya 
> book for 100 USD, but no one cares if you start to buy a loose leave
> series for $2 each week. And do that thorough one year...
> 
> Florian
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> On 29 Jan 2015, at 22:01, David Kellett davidkellettwoulf@yahoo.com [Doepfer_a100] <Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
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> I only came across it today. I think it's just been announced - should ship in March / April. It's a Wavetable oscillator with some great features - and will also via USB convert text to speech!! It seems to be about €330. 
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> David
> 
> www.movingisliving.co.uk
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> Sent from my iPhone 
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>> On 29 Jan 2015, at 21:44, Jonathan jss9h@aol.com [Doepfer_a100] <Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
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>> Do tell more. This is something that has gone under my radar. Is it a wavetable module by Waldorf? Interesting how many "conventional" synth manufacturers are getting into Eurorack these days....I bet Korg will be next.
>> 
>> Jonathan Shapero
>> From my iPad Air
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>> > On 29 Jan 2015, at 13:48, David Kellett davidkellettwoulf@yahoo.com [Doepfer_a100] <Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
>> > 
>> > I'm very excited about the Waldorf nW1 for Eurorack!! I have various hardware Waldorf's (Q+, XTk, MicroQ keyboard, sold my Pulse 1 and RackAttack) and I love the Wavetable sound. I loved the PPG but was too young / poor to ever own one so I've always had a soft spot for the PPG lineage of the Waldorf synths. 
>> > 
>> > Has anyone here tried one of the nW1s yet?
>> > 
>> > David 
>> > 
>> > www.movingisliving.co.uk
>> > 
>> > Sent from my iPhone 
>> > 
>> > ------------------------------------
>> > Posted by: David Kellett <davidkellettwoulf@yahoo.com>
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>> > 
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>> > Yahoo Groups Links
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