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2015-05-05 by Neil Kagan
Hi to you all, I wasn't a member of this group when this module was being planned. Dieter, would you consider revisiting if there was now more interest? A lot of us are into the buchla sound and would love a complex oscillator like this! Neil Sent from my iPhone
2015-05-05 by Florian Anwander
Hello, I admit, that I do not understand the need for the A-111-2 as it was planned. Such modules invalidate the basic idea of an modular system. All functions of the A-111-2 can be achieved by the combination of existing modules. I think a follower for the A-111 would be great. But it would be enough to be a high quality triangle core VCO, with excellent tracking on a wide range. Florian Am 05.05.2015 um 11:30 schrieb Neil Kagan blinkenlicht@yahoo.com [Doepfer_a100]:
> Hi to you all, > > I wasn't a member of this group when this module was being planned. Dieter, would you consider revisiting if there was now more interest? A lot of us are into the buchla sound and would love a complex oscillator like this! > > Neil >
2015-05-05 by achtung_999
I admit, that I do not understand the need for the A-111-2 as it was
planned. Such modules invalidate the basic idea of an modular system.
All functions of the A-111-2 can be achieved by the combination of
existing modules.
I think a follower for the A-111 would be great. But it would be enough
to be a high quality triangle core VCO, with excellent tracking on a
wide range.
2015-05-05 by yahoo@doepfer.de
> Hi to you all, > > I wasn't a member of this group when this module was being planned. Dieter, would you consider revisiting if there was > now more interest? A lot of us are into the buchla sound and would love a complex oscillator like this! > > Neil I'm sorry but this project has been cancelled. The inquiries and interests were close to zero :-( On the occasion of the Musikmesse I had some discussions concerning complex or dual oscillators (most of the "complex" oscillators are dual VCOs). Some visitors were asking especially if we think about a dual version of the new quadrature thru-zero VCO A-110-4. From my point of view such a dual VCO would not be much cheaper than two of the A-110-4 and e.g. a dual VCA A-132-3. This would be about Euro 350 altogether and we could offer a dual VCO with the same features not much cheaper (maybe Euro 320). And with separate modules one is much more flexible as one could combine different VCOs (e.g. a triangle/saw/rectangle non-thru-zero VCO with a sine/cosine thru-zero VCO), VCAs and other interacting modules. Just my 2 cents. Best wishes Dieter Doepfer
2015-05-05 by Neil Kagan
Would there be a possibility for a VCO with built in wave shaping? Neil Sent from my iPhone
> On 5 May 2015, at 13:08, yahoo@doepfer.de [Doepfer_a100] <Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com> wrote: > > > Hi to you all, > > > > I wasn't a member of this group when this module was being planned. Dieter, would you consider revisiting if there was > > now more interest? A lot of us are into the buchla sound and would love a complex oscillator like this! > > > > Neil > > I'm sorry but this project has been cancelled. The inquiries and interests were close to zero :-( > > On the occasion of the Musikmesse I had some discussions concerning complex or dual oscillators (most of the "complex" oscillators > are dual VCOs). Some visitors were asking especially if we think about a dual version of the new quadrature thru-zero VCO A-110-4. > From my point of view such a dual VCO would not be much cheaper than two of the A-110-4 and e.g. a dual VCA A-132-3. This would be > about Euro 350 altogether and we could offer a dual VCO with the same features not much cheaper (maybe Euro 320). And with separate > modules one is much more flexible as one could combine different VCOs (e.g. a triangle/saw/rectangle non-thru-zero VCO with a > sine/cosine thru-zero VCO), VCAs and other interacting modules. Just my 2 cents. > > Best wishes > Dieter Doepfer > >
2015-05-05 by Tonko Sekulo
I also don't see no need for "complex" dual oscillators or built in waveshapers. The flexibility of separate modules is one of the strongest points of having and working with a modular synth. Many new and exciting combinations of modules are possible this way much more than with hardwired complex oscillators and other multi purpose and feature rich modules that seem to be very trendy these days. On 5/5/15, Neil Kagan blinkenlicht@yahoo.com [Doepfer_a100] <Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
> Would there be a possibility for a VCO with built in wave shaping? > > Neil > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On 5 May 2015, at 13:08, yahoo@doepfer.de [Doepfer_a100] >> <Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com> wrote: >> >> > Hi to you all, >> > >> > I wasn't a member of this group when this module was being planned. >> > Dieter, would you consider revisiting if there was >> > now more interest? A lot of us are into the buchla sound and would love >> > a complex oscillator like this! >> > >> > Neil >> >> I'm sorry but this project has been cancelled. The inquiries and interests >> were close to zero :-( >> >> On the occasion of the Musikmesse I had some discussions concerning >> complex or dual oscillators (most of the "complex" oscillators >> are dual VCOs). Some visitors were asking especially if we think about a >> dual version of the new quadrature thru-zero VCO A-110-4. >> From my point of view such a dual VCO would not be much cheaper than two >> of the A-110-4 and e.g. a dual VCA A-132-3. This would be >> about Euro 350 altogether and we could offer a dual VCO with the same >> features not much cheaper (maybe Euro 320). And with separate >> modules one is much more flexible as one could combine different VCOs >> (e.g. a triangle/saw/rectangle non-thru-zero VCO with a >> sine/cosine thru-zero VCO), VCAs and other interacting modules. Just my 2 >> cents. >> >> Best wishes >> Dieter Doepfer >> >> >
2015-05-05 by Neil Kagan
Actually they're very old; Buchla had them in the 1960s :) Sent from my iPhone
> On 5 May 2015, at 14:11, Tonko Sekulo oknot24@gmail.com [Doepfer_a100] <Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com> wrote: > > I also don't see no need for "complex" dual oscillators or built in > waveshapers. The flexibility of separate modules is one of the > strongest points of having and working with a modular synth. Many new > and exciting combinations of modules are possible this way much more > than with hardwired complex oscillators and other multi purpose and > feature rich modules that seem to be very trendy these days. > > On 5/5/15, Neil Kagan blinkenlicht@yahoo.com [Doepfer_a100] > <Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com> wrote: > > Would there be a possibility for a VCO with built in wave shaping? > > > > Neil > > > > Sent from my iPhone > > > >> On 5 May 2015, at 13:08, yahoo@doepfer.de [Doepfer_a100] > >> <Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com> wrote: > >> > >> > Hi to you all, > >> > > >> > I wasn't a member of this group when this module was being planned. > >> > Dieter, would you consider revisiting if there was > >> > now more interest? A lot of us are into the buchla sound and would love > >> > a complex oscillator like this! > >> > > >> > Neil > >> > >> I'm sorry but this project has been cancelled. The inquiries and interests > >> were close to zero :-( > >> > >> On the occasion of the Musikmesse I had some discussions concerning > >> complex or dual oscillators (most of the "complex" oscillators > >> are dual VCOs). Some visitors were asking especially if we think about a > >> dual version of the new quadrature thru-zero VCO A-110-4. > >> From my point of view such a dual VCO would not be much cheaper than two > >> of the A-110-4 and e.g. a dual VCA A-132-3. This would be > >> about Euro 350 altogether and we could offer a dual VCO with the same > >> features not much cheaper (maybe Euro 320). And with separate > >> modules one is much more flexible as one could combine different VCOs > >> (e.g. a triangle/saw/rectangle non-thru-zero VCO with a > >> sine/cosine thru-zero VCO), VCAs and other interacting modules. Just my 2 > >> cents. > >> > >> Best wishes > >> Dieter Doepfer > >> > >> > > >
2015-05-05 by yahoo@doepfer.de
> Would there be a possibility for a VCO with built in wave shaping? > > > Neil Of course this would be possible. But here comes the next question: which type of VCO (triangle, sawtooth, trapezoid or sine/cosine core) and which kind of wave shaper. There is not only ONE type of VCO and one type of wave shaping. Wave shaping ranges e.g. from simple clipping over the features of modules like A-116 or A-136 to wave multiplying like A-137-1/2. And even wavetables are kind of waveshaping. That's why I'd prefer separate modules. Of course I know that there is also a market for VCO/Wave shaping/VCA combo modules. But I'm not sure if we will go this way too. Best wishes Dieter Doepfer
2015-05-05 by Neil Kagan
Hey no worries, I'm glad you're making stuff at all Dieter! I think a lot of my more esoteric VCO wants are going to be sorted with the TZ range anyway. I must admit the most exciting sounds to be the Triangle core based one so far... Neil Sent from my iPhone
On 5 May 2015, at 16:02, yahoo@doepfer.de [Doepfer_a100] <Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com> wrote: >> Would there be a possibility for a VCO with built in wave shaping? >> >> >> Neil > > Of course this would be possible. But here comes the next question: which type of VCO (triangle, sawtooth, trapezoid or sine/cosine > core) and which kind of wave shaper. There is not only ONE type of VCO and one type of wave shaping. Wave shaping ranges e.g. from > simple clipping over the features of modules like A-116 or A-136 to wave multiplying like A-137-1/2. And even wavetables are kind of > waveshaping. That's why I'd prefer separate modules. Of course I know that there is also a market for VCO/Wave shaping/VCA combo > modules. But I'm not sure if we will go this way too. > > Best wishes > Dieter Doepfer > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > ------------------------------------ > > > ------------------------------------ > > Yahoo Groups Links > > >
2015-05-05 by Kazys Varnelis
I guess it was my time to fry a module. I lost an A-138V2 (linear) mixer by misconnecting it. If it’s likely to be the opamp, I’d be glad to give it a try, maybe replacing it with the OP470AY for kicks.
2015-05-05 by soup
> Would there be a possibility for a VCO with built in wave shaping?
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> Neil
Of course this would be possible. But here comes the next question: which type of VCO (triangle, sawtooth, trapezoid or sine/cosine
core) and which kind of wave shaper. There is not only ONE type of VCO and one type of wave shaping. Wave shaping ranges e.g. from
simple clipping over the features of modules like A-116 or A-136 to wave multiplying like A-137-1/2. And even wavetables are kind of
waveshaping. That's why I'd prefer separate modules. Of course I know that there is also a market for VCO/Wave shaping/VCA combo
modules. But I'm not sure if we will go this way too.
Best wishes
Dieter Doepfer
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2015-05-05 by yahoo@doepfer.de
> I guess it was my time to fry a module. I lost an A-138V2 (linear) mixer by misconnecting it. If it’s likely to be the > opamp, I’d be glad to give it a try, maybe replacing it with the OP470AY for kicks. I'm quite sure replacing the quad OpAmp (LM324/TL084/TL074 compatible) will solve the problem. Best wishes Dieter Doepfer
2015-05-06 by Nathan Cearley
soupI'll say one of the reasons I choose Doepfer modules is they haven't dived into the hp race to the bottom with smaller and more densely packed combination modules. When they do it, it's typically novel and still with a mind to usability.Take care,On Tue, May 5, 2015 at 11:02 AM, yahoo@doepfer.de [Doepfer_a100] <Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com> wrote:> Would there be a possibility for a VCO with built in wave shaping?
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> Neil
Of course this would be possible. But here comes the next question: which type of VCO (triangle, sawtooth, trapezoid or sine/cosine
core) and which kind of wave shaper. There is not only ONE type of VCO and one type of wave shaping. Wave shaping ranges e.g. from
simple clipping over the features of modules like A-116 or A-136 to wave multiplying like A-137-1/2. And even wavetables are kind of
waveshaping. That's why I'd prefer separate modules. Of course I know that there is also a market for VCO/Wave shaping/VCA combo
modules. But I'm not sure if we will go this way too.
Best wishes
Dieter Doepfer
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