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Hi there,
I know there are dedicated modules to create but I wonder what is the easiest way to make a shuffled clock with Doepfer modules?

Cheers 

Jacco Ville

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> I know there are dedicated modules to create but I wonder what is the easiest way to make a shuffled clock with Doepfer modules?

I haven't yet tried this myself (still a newbie), but from what I've
read I expect to be able to do it like this:

Connect a pulse to A160 clock divider.
Connect outputs 1 and 6 from A161 clock sequencer to a multiples.
Connect multiples to the ADSR that will now get a shuffled pulse.

If I am right.

- Ville Oikarinen

Thank you , I've read that also. 
But it would be nice to have a shuffle that can be regulated. 
I have a Roland SBX1 clocking device with shuffle. 
Does the A190-8 midi to clock module plays shuffled midi input?

Suggestions are welcome. 

Jacco 

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> Op 21 dec. 2016 om 13:28 heeft Ville Oikarinen ville@oikarinen.org [Doepfer_a100] <Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com> het volgende geschreven:
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> > I know there are dedicated modules to create but I wonder what is the easiest way to make a shuffled clock with Doepfer modules?
> 
> I haven't yet tried this myself (still a newbie), but from what I've
> read I expect to be able to do it like this:
> 
> Connect a pulse to A160 clock divider.
> Connect outputs 1 and 6 from A161 clock sequencer to a multiples.
> Connect multiples to the ADSR that will now get a shuffled pulse.
> 
> If I am right.
> 
> - Ville Oikarinen
>

Hello

if the shuffled clock shall be created by the System 100 itself:

Any LFO with saw -> A-167 comparator (this produces variable pulswidth) 
-> A-165 Triggermodifier -> the +/-Out provides a shuffeled clock.
Instead of LFO/Comparator you may use a VCO with pulswidth control.

If an external Clock should be used:
Ext-Clock -> A-151: 5V to O/I, I/O3 to Reset; I/O1 -> A-186-1 Trigger 
combiner in1 ; I/O2 -> A-162 Trigger-Delay -> A-186-1 Trigger combiner 
in2;  A-186-1 Output = Shuffled clock. the Triggerdelay defines the 
shuffle amount.

In both cases the original Clockrate is double the shuffeled clockrate. 
If you want the same clockrate then you have to double the clock 
frequency of the incoming clock using a A-196 PLL and a A160 Divider.

Florian



Am 21.12.2016 um 13:20 schrieb jaccoville@yahoo.com [Doepfer_a100]:

> Hi there,
> I know there are dedicated modules to create but I wonder what is the easiest way to make a shuffled clock with Doepfer modules?
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> Cheers
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> Jacco Ville
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Am 21.12.2016 um 15:26 schrieb Florian Anwander:
> if the shuffled clock shall be created by the System 100 itself: 
This one was a Freudian slip...
Not System 100 but A-100 ;-)

Hi Florian,

"If an external Clock should be used:
Ext-Clock -> A-151: 5V to O/I, I/O3 to Reset; I/O1 -> A-186-1 Trigger combiner in1 ; I/O2 -> A-162 Trigger-Delay -> A-186-1 Trigger combiner in2;  A-186-1 Output = Shuffled clock. the Triggerdelay defines the shuffle amount."

This worked very well although with higher tempo things get a bit nasty to dial in the A162 but thank you anyway. 

I also tried the SBX1, programmed the aux output to trigger and clocked an A157. 
The SBX1 has a dedicated shuffle button with control of plus and minus 50% and this also worked.
Now I only need to test the A190-8 for shuffle over midi to trigger. 

Cheers

Jacco Ville

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> Op 21 dec. 2016 om 17:34 heeft fanwander@mnet-online.de [Doepfer_a100] <Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com> het volgende geschreven:
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> If an external Clock should be used:
> Ext-Clock -> A-151: 5V to O/I, I/O3 to Reset; I/O1 -> A-186-1 Trigger combiner in1 ; I/O2 -> A-162 Trigger-Delay -> A-186-1 Trigger combiner in2;  A-186-1 Output = Shuffled clock. the Triggerdelay defines the shuffle amount.

Hi Hi

Tested the A190-8 but no shuffle is supported, my A190-2 does this very well. 
Also found the A190-8 has a rather high latency ( midiclock in > trigger outs)where the A190-2 is rock solid.
Not a good thing and therefore rather useless. 
Hope there will be a software update because the A190-2 has only a gate output, no reset etc. 

Greetings 

Jacco Ville

I'm sorry about the troubles with the A-190-8. I wonder why the A-190-8 has
more latency than the A-190-2 because from the theory the A-190-8 should be
faster as it just has to handle midi clock/start/stop and should not
generate any noticeable delay. I ask you to contact Christian Assall
directly (software@doepfer.de). He programmed the firmware of both modules.

Best wishes
Dieter Doepfer


> Hi Hi
>
> Tested the A190-8 but no shuffle is supported, my A190-2 does this very
well.

> Also found the A190-8 has a rather high latency ( midiclock in >
> trigger outs)where the A190-2 is rock solid.
> Not a good thing and therefore rather useless.
> Hope there will be a software update because the A190-2 has only
> a gate output, no reset etc.
>
> Greetings
>
> Jacco Ville

Hi Dieter,

Thank you for your reply. 
I will contact Christian. 

Cheers

Jacco Ville

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> Op 9 jan. 2017 om 13:07 heeft yahoo@doepfer.de [Doepfer_a100] <Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com> het volgende geschreven:
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> I'm sorry about the troubles with the A-190-8. I wonder why the A-190-8 has
> more latency than the A-190-2 because from the theory the A-190-8 should be
> faster as it just has to handle midi clock/start/stop and should not
> generate any noticeable delay. I ask you to contact Christian Assall
> directly (software@doepfer.de). He programmed the firmware of both modules.
> 
> Best wishes
> Dieter Doepfer
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> 
>> Hi Hi
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>> Tested the A190-8 but no shuffle is supported, my A190-2 does this very
> well.
>> Also found the A190-8 has a rather high latency ( midiclock in >
>> trigger outs)where the A190-2 is rock solid.
>> Not a good thing and therefore rather useless.
>> Hope there will be a software update because the A190-2 has only
>> a gate output, no reset etc.
>> 
>> Greetings
>> 
>> Jacco Ville
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