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Measurements of Doepfer modules?

2003-01-22 by Jamie Drouin <dandy@quentincrisp.com>

Hi there,

I'm looking at putting together very compact Doepfer system...around
4-5 modules...and wondered what the physical depth of the Doepfer
modules is?

Also, does anyone else have a similar mini-suitcase Doepfer system
they've built? I assume the mini power supply does the trick.

Best,
Jamie.

Re: Measurements of Doepfer modules?

2003-01-22 by Tim Stinchcombe <timothy@tstinchcombe.freeserve.co.uk>

Hi Jamie,

> I'm looking at putting together very compact Doepfer system...around
> 4-5 modules...and wondered what the physical depth of the Doepfer
> modules is?

It varies quite a bit. I've just Done a quick check on some of the 
more obvious ones that you might use: A-110, A-140, A-121/122/123, A-
138, A-130/131, and they are all less than about 2 1/2 inches. 
Without popping them all out, the biggest I can think of (from 
memory, of those I have...) are the A-126, about 4 1/2 inches deep, 
and the A-190 at about 4 inches deep. If you know roughly what you 
are thinking about, and I have got them, I can easily pop them out 
and let you know!

Tim

Re: Measurements of Doepfer modules?

2003-01-22 by Tim Stinchcombe <timothy@tstinchcombe.freeserve.co.uk>

Hi Jamie (again),

> Also, does anyone else have a similar mini-suitcase Doepfer system
> they've built? I assume the mini power supply does the trick.

The mini power supply is good for 100mA according to the manual, 
which would equate to perhaps 3 to 5 modules depending on how power 
hungry they are. I think the figures quoted by Doepfer are a little 
cautious, I think they are meant to be 'worst case'. EMIS, the UK 
dealer, have measured the actual currents which they include on their 
price list, but unfortunatley they don't seem to have them on their 
website (www.emismusic.com). Again, if you have particular modules in 
mind, I can relay the figures...

Tim

Re: Measurements of Doepfer modules?

2003-01-22 by Jamie Drouin <dandy@quentincrisp.com>

Hi Tim,

Thanks for your help!

I'm looking at the following modules:

A-110 VCO(x2)
A-124 WASP FILTER
A-146 LFO2
A-100MNT Mini Power Supply

Now, this is to make an extremely compact little synth for pure tonal
drone sounds. No percussion and no external control (MIDI or CV). I
have an Arrick modular at home and predominantly use two oscillators,
and a couple of filters for subtle textural drone stuff. I just need a
dramatically smaller solution than the Arrick for travel. I'd like
this all to fit into a space approx 8"W x 6"H x 2.5-3"D. If you have
an suggestions about the modules let me know.

Best, Jamie.




--- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, "Tim Stinchcombe <timothy@t...>"
<timothy@t...> wrote:
Show quoted textHide quoted text
> Hi Jamie (again),
> 
> > Also, does anyone else have a similar mini-suitcase Doepfer system
> > they've built? I assume the mini power supply does the trick.
> 
> The mini power supply is good for 100mA according to the manual, 
> which would equate to perhaps 3 to 5 modules depending on how power 
> hungry they are. I think the figures quoted by Doepfer are a little 
> cautious, I think they are meant to be 'worst case'. EMIS, the UK 
> dealer, have measured the actual currents which they include on their 
> price list, but unfortunatley they don't seem to have them on their 
> website (www.emismusic.com). Again, if you have particular modules in 
> mind, I can relay the figures...
> 
> Tim

Re: Measurements of Doepfer modules?

2003-01-23 by Tim Stinchcombe <timothy@tstinchcombe.freeserve.co.uk>

Hi Jamie,

> I'm looking at the following modules:
> 
> A-110 VCO(x2)
> A-124 WASP FILTER
> A-146 LFO2
> A-100MNT Mini Power Supply
> 
> Now, this is to make an extremely compact little synth for pure 
tonal
> drone sounds. No percussion and no external control (MIDI or CV). I
> have an Arrick modular at home and predominantly use two 
oscillators,
> and a couple of filters for subtle textural drone stuff. I just 
need a
> dramatically smaller solution than the Arrick for travel. I'd like
> this all to fit into a space approx 8"W x 6"H x 2.5-3"D. If you have
> an suggestions about the modules let me know.

Thats a bit of a tall order on several fronts! First the power: by 
Doepfer figures, these 4 modules need 210mA; on EMIS figures this 
comes down to 180mA - either way its obviously too much for a single 
MNT supply (at 100mA max). Second, your depth requirement of 2.5 - 3 
inches. I don't have a 124, but from what I know of the circuit its 
not massively complicated, and so is only likely to be about 2.5 
inches deep as the other modules you list are. I've got no idea of 
how much space the power supply+ bus board will need, but you 
probably ought to reckon on at least 2 inches (a guess), if not more 
(it's conceivable it wouldn't necessarily need mounting on the back 
plate, but where and how you put it obviously depends on the exact 
physical dimensions). That probably means about 6 inches minimum. The 
total width is 36HP, which is about 7 1/4 inches or so (1HP is just a 
little over 5mm). In fact Analogue Solutions make a 36HP case, which 
might do it:

http://www.users.globalnet.co.uk/~concuss/concussor/minimodular.htm

and I think the height of their modules is the same (but check!), and 
its obviously much deeper than your figure - they quote 16.5cm = 6.5 
inches. And if you are lucky, the bus connectors might be the same - 
I think one of Analogue Solutions/Analogue Systems stuff is, maybe 
both (?). I didn't read enough to see whether the power supply would 
be able to deliver what the Doepfer modules would need.

Well, plenty to think about - there's nothing like having a little 
project on the go...

Tim

Re: Measurements of Doepfer modules?

2003-01-23 by d_n_f_n <dnfn@post.com>

Hello Jamie, take a look at this...
The Swedish doepfer dealer "synthesizer network"  sells a really 
small case. info from his site: 

>>The Bumble Bee is a light-weighted case suitable for live 
performances or picnics in the open air. The unbreakable case 
is used by the polic force holding telecommunication-electronics 
to be buried in the ground. The Bumble Bee can hold modules 
with a full width of 42 HP and the Bus board can handle 
maximum 4 modules. The Bus Board requires a stand alone 
AC/AC adapter 7.....9V AC output. It will be available with or 
without the AC/AC adapter (only 230V version available). << 

For further questions: network@analogue.org 

///Martin d_n_f_n



--- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, "Jamie Drouin 
<dandy@q...>" <dandy@q...> wrote:
> Hi there,
> 
> I'm looking at putting together very compact Doepfer 
system...around
> 4-5 modules...and wondered what the physical depth of the 
Doepfer
> modules is?
> 
> Also, does anyone else have a similar mini-suitcase Doepfer 
system
Show quoted textHide quoted text
> they've built? I assume the mini power supply does the trick.
> 
> Best,
> Jamie.

Re: Measurements of Doepfer modules?

2003-01-23 by d_n_f_n <dnfn@post.com>

BTW heres the link to the bumble bee page:

http://www.analogue.org/network/bumble.htm

////Martin d_n_f_n


--- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, "Jamie Drouin 
<dandy@q...>" <dandy@q...> wrote:
> Hi there,
> 
> I'm looking at putting together very compact Doepfer 
system...around
> 4-5 modules...and wondered what the physical depth of the 
Doepfer
> modules is?
> 
> Also, does anyone else have a similar mini-suitcase Doepfer 
system
Show quoted textHide quoted text
> they've built? I assume the mini power supply does the trick.
> 
> Best,
> Jamie.

Re: Measurements of Doepfer modules?

2003-01-24 by Jamie Drouin <dandy@quentincrisp.com>

Hi Martin,

Thanks! I remember seeing a photo of the Bumble Bee a couple a number
of months back...but had totally forgotten until you mentioned it.

That's exactly what I'm looking to setup...in fact, it's almost the
exact same model of Pelican case as well! So, there is hope...I guess
I'll just need to use a deeper case than my current one.

Best, Jamie.



--- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, "d_n_f_n <dnfn@p...>" <dnfn@p...>
wrote:
Show quoted textHide quoted text
> Hello Jamie, take a look at this...
> The Swedish doepfer dealer "synthesizer network"  sells a really 
> small case. info from his site: 
> 
> >>The Bumble Bee is a light-weighted case suitable for live 
> performances or picnics in the open air. The unbreakable case 
> is used by the polic force holding telecommunication-electronics 
> to be buried in the ground. The Bumble Bee can hold modules 
> with a full width of 42 HP and the Bus board can handle 
> maximum 4 modules. The Bus Board requires a stand alone 
> AC/AC adapter 7.....9V AC output. It will be available with or 
> without the AC/AC adapter (only 230V version available). << 
> 
> For further questions: network@a... 
> 
> ///Martin d_n_f_n
> 
> 
> 
> --- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, "Jamie Drouin 
> <dandy@q...>" <dandy@q...> wrote:
> > Hi there,
> > 
> > I'm looking at putting together very compact Doepfer 
> system...around
> > 4-5 modules...and wondered what the physical depth of the 
> Doepfer
> > modules is?
> > 
> > Also, does anyone else have a similar mini-suitcase Doepfer 
> system
> > they've built? I assume the mini power supply does the trick.
> > 
> > Best,
> > Jamie.

Re: Measurements of Doepfer modules?

2003-01-25 by Jamie Drouin <dandy@quentincrisp.com>

Hi Tim (and other list members),

Trying to stay within the power requirements of the single A-100MNT
Power Supply, which 4 Doepfer modules would you select in putting
together a nice little pure tonal/drone synth?

Would it be possible to create the effect of a two oscillator beating
drone sound by using a module such as the A-115 Audio Divider or A-116
Waveform Processor?

Man, I wish I had access to these modules...I could figure all this
out in 30 minutes. *sigh*

Best, Jamie.




--- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, "Tim Stinchcombe <timothy@t...>"
<timothy@t...> wrote:
Show quoted textHide quoted text
> Hi Jamie,
> 
> > I'm looking at the following modules:
> > 
> > A-110 VCO(x2)
> > A-124 WASP FILTER
> > A-146 LFO2
> > A-100MNT Mini Power Supply
> > 
> > Now, this is to make an extremely compact little synth for pure 
> tonal
> > drone sounds. No percussion and no external control (MIDI or CV). I
> > have an Arrick modular at home and predominantly use two 
> oscillators,
> > and a couple of filters for subtle textural drone stuff. I just 
> need a
> > dramatically smaller solution than the Arrick for travel. I'd like
> > this all to fit into a space approx 8"W x 6"H x 2.5-3"D. If you have
> > an suggestions about the modules let me know.
> 
> Thats a bit of a tall order on several fronts! First the power: by 
> Doepfer figures, these 4 modules need 210mA; on EMIS figures this 
> comes down to 180mA - either way its obviously too much for a single 
> MNT supply (at 100mA max). Second, your depth requirement of 2.5 - 3 
> inches. I don't have a 124, but from what I know of the circuit its 
> not massively complicated, and so is only likely to be about 2.5 
> inches deep as the other modules you list are. I've got no idea of 
> how much space the power supply+ bus board will need, but you 
> probably ought to reckon on at least 2 inches (a guess), if not more 
> (it's conceivable it wouldn't necessarily need mounting on the back 
> plate, but where and how you put it obviously depends on the exact 
> physical dimensions). That probably means about 6 inches minimum. The 
> total width is 36HP, which is about 7 1/4 inches or so (1HP is just a 
> little over 5mm). In fact Analogue Solutions make a 36HP case, which 
> might do it:
> 
> http://www.users.globalnet.co.uk/~concuss/concussor/minimodular.htm
> 
> and I think the height of their modules is the same (but check!), and 
> its obviously much deeper than your figure - they quote 16.5cm = 6.5 
> inches. And if you are lucky, the bus connectors might be the same - 
> I think one of Analogue Solutions/Analogue Systems stuff is, maybe 
> both (?). I didn't read enough to see whether the power supply would 
> be able to deliver what the Doepfer modules would need.
> 
> Well, plenty to think about - there's nothing like having a little 
> project on the go...
> 
> Tim

Re: Measurements of Doepfer modules?

2003-01-25 by jmaddocks1975 <jmaddocks1975@yahoo.co.uk>

Hi Jamie,
If you're looking for droning (correct?) style synth then forget the 
Waveform processor, it is far too subtle!
The audio divider is defenetly a good buy, really fattens up the 
oscillators, gives the sound of 4 oscs, very nice.

I would also recommend the VC Freq Divider (a163), its a nice module 
that no-one talks about. If you have only one VCO and patch a 
waveform into the a163 and mix it with another straight from the VCO 
using a mixer, you can have 1 playing c key and the other playing a 
melody (a couple of keys or many, depends on the CV source) using an 
LFO, S&H, SEQ (too big for this project though!) patched into the CV 
input. I really like this module and would be very fat when mixed 
with an audio divider!

Also a good fat sounding module is the distortion (a136), can be 
soft and subtle or really hard and loud and far better than the 
waveform processor.

Well thats my idea anyway, if you want a VCA I would buy the small 
Dual VCA, it does a very good job for both audio and voltages.
Which filter to choose, thats the question?! :-D

If you want any samples of the above modules let me know and I'll 
post some.


John



--- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, "Jamie Drouin <dandy@q...>" 
<dandy@q...> wrote:
> Hi Tim (and other list members),
> 
> Trying to stay within the power requirements of the single A-100MNT
> Power Supply, which 4 Doepfer modules would you select in putting
> together a nice little pure tonal/drone synth?
> 
> Would it be possible to create the effect of a two oscillator 
beating
> drone sound by using a module such as the A-115 Audio Divider or A-
116
> Waveform Processor?
> 
> Man, I wish I had access to these modules...I could figure all this
> out in 30 minutes. *sigh*
> 
> Best, Jamie.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> --- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, "Tim Stinchcombe 
<timothy@t...>"
> <timothy@t...> wrote:
> > Hi Jamie,
> > 
> > > I'm looking at the following modules:
> > > 
> > > A-110 VCO(x2)
> > > A-124 WASP FILTER
> > > A-146 LFO2
> > > A-100MNT Mini Power Supply
> > > 
> > > Now, this is to make an extremely compact little synth for 
pure 
> > tonal
> > > drone sounds. No percussion and no external control (MIDI or 
CV). I
> > > have an Arrick modular at home and predominantly use two 
> > oscillators,
> > > and a couple of filters for subtle textural drone stuff. I 
just 
> > need a
> > > dramatically smaller solution than the Arrick for travel. I'd 
like
> > > this all to fit into a space approx 8"W x 6"H x 2.5-3"D. If 
you have
> > > an suggestions about the modules let me know.
> > 
> > Thats a bit of a tall order on several fronts! First the power: 
by 
> > Doepfer figures, these 4 modules need 210mA; on EMIS figures 
this 
> > comes down to 180mA - either way its obviously too much for a 
single 
> > MNT supply (at 100mA max). Second, your depth requirement of 
2.5 - 3 
> > inches. I don't have a 124, but from what I know of the circuit 
its 
> > not massively complicated, and so is only likely to be about 2.5 
> > inches deep as the other modules you list are. I've got no idea 
of 
> > how much space the power supply+ bus board will need, but you 
> > probably ought to reckon on at least 2 inches (a guess), if not 
more 
> > (it's conceivable it wouldn't necessarily need mounting on the 
back 
> > plate, but where and how you put it obviously depends on the 
exact 
> > physical dimensions). That probably means about 6 inches 
minimum. The 
> > total width is 36HP, which is about 7 1/4 inches or so (1HP is 
just a 
> > little over 5mm). In fact Analogue Solutions make a 36HP case, 
which 
> > might do it:
> > 
> > 
http://www.users.globalnet.co.uk/~concuss/concussor/minimodular.htm
> > 
> > and I think the height of their modules is the same (but 
check!), and 
> > its obviously much deeper than your figure - they quote 16.5cm = 
6.5 
> > inches. And if you are lucky, the bus connectors might be the 
same - 
> > I think one of Analogue Solutions/Analogue Systems stuff is, 
maybe 
> > both (?). I didn't read enough to see whether the power supply 
would 
> > be able to deliver what the Doepfer modules would need.
> > 
> > Well, plenty to think about - there's nothing like having a 
little 
Show quoted textHide quoted text
> > project on the go...
> > 
> > Tim

Re: Measurements of Doepfer modules?

2003-01-25 by jmaddocks1975 <jmaddocks1975@yahoo.co.uk>

Also another though...
Not sure where you live but the UK importer for doepfer (Emis) sells 
analogue solutions modules with doepfer power connectors, ready to 
put straight into a doepfer rack. They fit perfect too as I have 
them inside same rack next to doepfer modules.

John




--- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, "jmaddocks1975 
<jmaddocks1975@y...>" <jmaddocks1975@y...> wrote:
> Hi Jamie,
> If you're looking for droning (correct?) style synth then forget 
the 
> Waveform processor, it is far too subtle!
> The audio divider is defenetly a good buy, really fattens up the 
> oscillators, gives the sound of 4 oscs, very nice.
> 
> I would also recommend the VC Freq Divider (a163), its a nice 
module 
> that no-one talks about. If you have only one VCO and patch a 
> waveform into the a163 and mix it with another straight from the 
VCO 
> using a mixer, you can have 1 playing c key and the other playing 
a 
> melody (a couple of keys or many, depends on the CV source) using 
an 
> LFO, S&H, SEQ (too big for this project though!) patched into the 
CV 
> input. I really like this module and would be very fat when mixed 
> with an audio divider!
> 
> Also a good fat sounding module is the distortion (a136), can be 
> soft and subtle or really hard and loud and far better than the 
> waveform processor.
> 
> Well thats my idea anyway, if you want a VCA I would buy the small 
> Dual VCA, it does a very good job for both audio and voltages.
> Which filter to choose, thats the question?! :-D
> 
> If you want any samples of the above modules let me know and I'll 
> post some.
> 
> 
> John
> 
> 
> 
> --- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, "Jamie Drouin <dandy@q...>" 
> <dandy@q...> wrote:
> > Hi Tim (and other list members),
> > 
> > Trying to stay within the power requirements of the single A-
100MNT
> > Power Supply, which 4 Doepfer modules would you select in putting
> > together a nice little pure tonal/drone synth?
> > 
> > Would it be possible to create the effect of a two oscillator 
> beating
> > drone sound by using a module such as the A-115 Audio Divider or 
A-
> 116
> > Waveform Processor?
> > 
> > Man, I wish I had access to these modules...I could figure all 
this
> > out in 30 minutes. *sigh*
> > 
> > Best, Jamie.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > --- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, "Tim Stinchcombe 
> <timothy@t...>"
> > <timothy@t...> wrote:
> > > Hi Jamie,
> > > 
> > > > I'm looking at the following modules:
> > > > 
> > > > A-110 VCO(x2)
> > > > A-124 WASP FILTER
> > > > A-146 LFO2
> > > > A-100MNT Mini Power Supply
> > > > 
> > > > Now, this is to make an extremely compact little synth for 
> pure 
> > > tonal
> > > > drone sounds. No percussion and no external control (MIDI or 
> CV). I
> > > > have an Arrick modular at home and predominantly use two 
> > > oscillators,
> > > > and a couple of filters for subtle textural drone stuff. I 
> just 
> > > need a
> > > > dramatically smaller solution than the Arrick for travel. 
I'd 
> like
> > > > this all to fit into a space approx 8"W x 6"H x 2.5-3"D. If 
> you have
> > > > an suggestions about the modules let me know.
> > > 
> > > Thats a bit of a tall order on several fronts! First the 
power: 
> by 
> > > Doepfer figures, these 4 modules need 210mA; on EMIS figures 
> this 
> > > comes down to 180mA - either way its obviously too much for a 
> single 
> > > MNT supply (at 100mA max). Second, your depth requirement of 
> 2.5 - 3 
> > > inches. I don't have a 124, but from what I know of the 
circuit 
> its 
> > > not massively complicated, and so is only likely to be about 
2.5 
> > > inches deep as the other modules you list are. I've got no 
idea 
> of 
> > > how much space the power supply+ bus board will need, but you 
> > > probably ought to reckon on at least 2 inches (a guess), if 
not 
> more 
> > > (it's conceivable it wouldn't necessarily need mounting on the 
> back 
> > > plate, but where and how you put it obviously depends on the 
> exact 
> > > physical dimensions). That probably means about 6 inches 
> minimum. The 
> > > total width is 36HP, which is about 7 1/4 inches or so (1HP is 
> just a 
> > > little over 5mm). In fact Analogue Solutions make a 36HP case, 
> which 
> > > might do it:
> > > 
> > > 
> http://www.users.globalnet.co.uk/~concuss/concussor/minimodular.htm
> > > 
> > > and I think the height of their modules is the same (but 
> check!), and 
> > > its obviously much deeper than your figure - they quote 16.5cm 
= 
Show quoted textHide quoted text
> 6.5 
> > > inches. And if you are lucky, the bus connectors might be the 
> same - 
> > > I think one of Analogue Solutions/Analogue Systems stuff is, 
> maybe 
> > > both (?). I didn't read enough to see whether the power supply 
> would 
> > > be able to deliver what the Doepfer modules would need.
> > > 
> > > Well, plenty to think about - there's nothing like having a 
> little 
> > > project on the go...
> > > 
> > > Tim

Re: Measurements of Doepfer modules?

2003-01-25 by Jamie Drouin <dandy@quentincrisp.com>

Hi John,

I'd be very interested in hearing the effect of the Waveform Processor
on a single sawtooth input. Thanks!

I know this is a tall order, trying to cram a synth into such a small
space. I did look at the Analogue Solutions MiniModular stuff online,
and it is still a contender, but the case itself is too deep for my
application (strange too...I wonder how deep the AS modules actually
are...I'll have to email them).

I've been thinking of a way to have a case that would hold my
Frostwave fatController in the lid as well, giving me the option of
creating some subtle textures via CV.

Best, Jamie.




--- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, "jmaddocks1975
<jmaddocks1975@y...>" <jmaddocks1975@y...> wrote:
Show quoted textHide quoted text
> Hi Jamie,
> If you're looking for droning (correct?) style synth then forget the 
> Waveform processor, it is far too subtle!
> The audio divider is defenetly a good buy, really fattens up the 
> oscillators, gives the sound of 4 oscs, very nice.
> 
> I would also recommend the VC Freq Divider (a163), its a nice module 
> that no-one talks about. If you have only one VCO and patch a 
> waveform into the a163 and mix it with another straight from the VCO 
> using a mixer, you can have 1 playing c key and the other playing a 
> melody (a couple of keys or many, depends on the CV source) using an 
> LFO, S&H, SEQ (too big for this project though!) patched into the CV 
> input. I really like this module and would be very fat when mixed 
> with an audio divider!
> 
> Also a good fat sounding module is the distortion (a136), can be 
> soft and subtle or really hard and loud and far better than the 
> waveform processor.
> 
> Well thats my idea anyway, if you want a VCA I would buy the small 
> Dual VCA, it does a very good job for both audio and voltages.
> Which filter to choose, thats the question?! :-D
> 
> If you want any samples of the above modules let me know and I'll 
> post some.
> 
> 
> John
> 
> 
> 
> --- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, "Jamie Drouin <dandy@q...>" 
> <dandy@q...> wrote:
> > Hi Tim (and other list members),
> > 
> > Trying to stay within the power requirements of the single A-100MNT
> > Power Supply, which 4 Doepfer modules would you select in putting
> > together a nice little pure tonal/drone synth?
> > 
> > Would it be possible to create the effect of a two oscillator 
> beating
> > drone sound by using a module such as the A-115 Audio Divider or A-
> 116
> > Waveform Processor?
> > 
> > Man, I wish I had access to these modules...I could figure all this
> > out in 30 minutes. *sigh*
> > 
> > Best, Jamie.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > --- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, "Tim Stinchcombe 
> <timothy@t...>"
> > <timothy@t...> wrote:
> > > Hi Jamie,
> > > 
> > > > I'm looking at the following modules:
> > > > 
> > > > A-110 VCO(x2)
> > > > A-124 WASP FILTER
> > > > A-146 LFO2
> > > > A-100MNT Mini Power Supply
> > > > 
> > > > Now, this is to make an extremely compact little synth for 
> pure 
> > > tonal
> > > > drone sounds. No percussion and no external control (MIDI or 
> CV). I
> > > > have an Arrick modular at home and predominantly use two 
> > > oscillators,
> > > > and a couple of filters for subtle textural drone stuff. I 
> just 
> > > need a
> > > > dramatically smaller solution than the Arrick for travel. I'd 
> like
> > > > this all to fit into a space approx 8"W x 6"H x 2.5-3"D. If 
> you have
> > > > an suggestions about the modules let me know.
> > > 
> > > Thats a bit of a tall order on several fronts! First the power: 
> by 
> > > Doepfer figures, these 4 modules need 210mA; on EMIS figures 
> this 
> > > comes down to 180mA - either way its obviously too much for a 
> single 
> > > MNT supply (at 100mA max). Second, your depth requirement of 
> 2.5 - 3 
> > > inches. I don't have a 124, but from what I know of the circuit 
> its 
> > > not massively complicated, and so is only likely to be about 2.5 
> > > inches deep as the other modules you list are. I've got no idea 
> of 
> > > how much space the power supply+ bus board will need, but you 
> > > probably ought to reckon on at least 2 inches (a guess), if not 
> more 
> > > (it's conceivable it wouldn't necessarily need mounting on the 
> back 
> > > plate, but where and how you put it obviously depends on the 
> exact 
> > > physical dimensions). That probably means about 6 inches 
> minimum. The 
> > > total width is 36HP, which is about 7 1/4 inches or so (1HP is 
> just a 
> > > little over 5mm). In fact Analogue Solutions make a 36HP case, 
> which 
> > > might do it:
> > > 
> > > 
> http://www.users.globalnet.co.uk/~concuss/concussor/minimodular.htm
> > > 
> > > and I think the height of their modules is the same (but 
> check!), and 
> > > its obviously much deeper than your figure - they quote 16.5cm = 
> 6.5 
> > > inches. And if you are lucky, the bus connectors might be the 
> same - 
> > > I think one of Analogue Solutions/Analogue Systems stuff is, 
> maybe 
> > > both (?). I didn't read enough to see whether the power supply 
> would 
> > > be able to deliver what the Doepfer modules would need.
> > > 
> > > Well, plenty to think about - there's nothing like having a 
> little 
> > > project on the go...
> > > 
> > > Tim

Re: Measurements of Doepfer modules?

2003-01-26 by Tim Stinchcombe <timothy@tstinchcombe.freeserve.co.uk>

Hi Jamie,

> Trying to stay within the power requirements of the single A-100MNT
> Power Supply, which 4 Doepfer modules would you select in putting
> together a nice little pure tonal/drone synth?

On my assumptions that

a) you are prepared to put this thing together yourself (i.e. are 
prepared to accept quite a lot of fiddling about to get what you 
want), and
b) there seems to be quite a lot of sizes on offer of these 'Peli 
cases' (I've been looking at http://www.hofbauer.co.uk/cases/peli.php)

my suggestion would be not to compromise - go with the modules you 
want (even if that means two PSU boards) and then find a case to fit 
it all in.

Looking at the 'Bumble Bee' I'll make several observations:
1) On the basis of the 4 modules they suggest as 'standard fit', they 
are blowing the PSU rating by 30% anyway! (110+122+131+140 = 130mA on 
Doepfer figures!). Thus the PSU apparently can chuck out more than 
the advertised 100mA (or it runs real hot!).
2) The box appears to be the '1150' (from the Hopfbauer site), 
internal size: 215x150x95. Doepfer have a picture of the A100MNT 
supply on the 'A100 accessories' page (but admittedly you won't be 
able to gauge its size unless you're already familiar with Doepfer 
gear...). However, from the Bumble Bee pictures, if they've mounted 
the PSU on the 'back' (i.e. bottom of the case), then there should be 
plenty of space for a second one beside it. But, if it's mounted on 
the 'bottom' (i.e. the hinge side of the case), then you've probably 
had it... But then the extra depth on the next case up (the '1200' 
adds 1.5cm to depth) might give you all you need to mount 1 or 2 PSUs 
on the bottom of the case regardless, and the '1300' at 155mm deep 
should be plenty enough.

> Man, I wish I had access to these modules...I could figure all this
> out in 30 minutes. *sigh*

I can only share your frustration there - luckily I'm only about 50 
mins drive away from EMIS, the UK distributor, which is the main 
reason I ended up with Doepfer stuff in the first place!

Regards,
Tim

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