Doepfer

Lets not forget that in his last message (3625), Dieter Doepfer said 
that he would agree to make blank panels available if there was 
agreement in the group concerning the front panel and pcb design.

I am not sure what the pcb design could be, but I think a blank 8hp 5 
pot/5 jack design would be ideal.  If everybody disagrees and has 
other ideas, presumably that would mean the market is too small to 
make this economically feasible.  What do people think of the blank 
panel idea?  Who would buy one?  I know I would probably buy three or 
four.

Dieter Doepfer <hardware@d...> wrote:

> From: "Dieter Doepfer" <hardware@d...>
> To: "Bakis Sirros" <synth_freak_2000@y...>
> Subject: AW: [Doepfer_a100] yes to Blank paneRe: The
> most advancedAttenuator yet
> Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2003 13:11:19 +0200
> 
> ----> Please forward to the group

> > But in one of the messages there was another idea
> > that I would approve, i.e. to
> > develop an universal front panel and pc board for
> > DIY applications. The problem
> > is the layout of the front panel (e.g. 8HP, 5 rotary
> > knobs with 5 jack sockets
> > as many of the modules) and the features of the pcb
> > ? I see a lot of new
> > discussion ....
> > We could offer such a neutral front panel (e.g. only
> > scales for rotary knobs, no
> > DOEPFER logo) and pc board only for DIY applictions.
> > No confusions could occur
> > as we will not offer a ready built module based on
> > this front panel/pcb.
> > 
> > If there is an agreement in the group concerning the
> > front panel and pcb design
> > we could offer these parts. The main problem is that
> > to get a acceptable price
> > we have to order at least 100 (better 250 or 500) of
> > these parts. So pre-orders
> > of a minimum of about 50 pcs would be necessary for
> > us. I think the price for
> > the front panel (stamped and printed) and pcb would
> > be approximately in the 25
> > Euro range. We also could publish the pcb layout
> > file (Eagle format) and the
> > front panel file (Corel Draw format) so that
> > customers could do modifications if
> > desired. A basic version of Eagle is available as
> > freeware in the internet
> > (www.cadsoft.de).

Won't buy one either. I have some kits in the pipeline and for me 
half the fun is designing my own frontplates with Schaeffer 
Apparatebau's software. Ilanode

--- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, Bakis Sirros 
<synth_freak_2000@y...> wrote:

> hi florian,
> also,i would not buy any blank frontpanel!if i did ,i
> would make a diy module that would look ,not like an
> "electronic garden",but more like an electronic
> shithouse...:-)
> bakis.
> 
> 
> --- Florian Anwander <Florian.Anwander@c...>
> wrote:
> > Hi 
> > 
> > > What do people think of the blank panel idea?  
> > Doepfer already offers Blankpanels with the whole
> > for the screws
> > (A100B1/2/4/8), but without wholes for jacks or
> > pots. I would always use
> > those for selfmade modules, since the position of
> > switches, pots and jacks
> > will always depend on my circuit layout. Due to the
> > fact I use breadboard
> > pcbs I cannot place always a pot or jack to where
> > the frontplate would urge
> > me.
> > 
> > For my usage there are also two other arguments
> > against the
> > 5jack5pots-idea:
> > 
> > I create modules, that offer several jacks for one
> > output or a feedthrujack
> > for each input, so I do not need 5 pots, but e.g. 3
> > jacks in one horizontal
> > line at the bottom of the frontplate for the output.
> > 
> > Also the most easy (!) diy projects should be
> > digital modules, that do
> > require only a few pots but a lot of jacks.
> > 
> > 
> > And last but not least:
> > 
> > People who are able to solder an electronic circuit
> > and add the pcb to the
> > frontplate mechanically should be able to drill a
> > whole in the frontplate -
> > it is not that complicated.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > So I would not buy one.
> > 
> > Florian
> > -- 
> > Florian Anwander                  |ConSol* 
> > HP-Support
> > Tel.   +49.89.45841-133          
> > |Consulting&Solutions Software GmbH
> > Fax    +49.89.45841-139           |Franziskanerstr.
> > 38, D-81669 München
> > email: florian.anwander@c...
> > |http://www.consol.de
> > 
> 
> 
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Hi 

> What do people think of the blank panel idea?  
Doepfer already offers Blankpanels with the whole for the screws
(A100B1/2/4/8), but without wholes for jacks or pots. I would always use
those for selfmade modules, since the position of switches, pots and jacks
will always depend on my circuit layout. Due to the fact I use breadboard
pcbs I cannot place always a pot or jack to where the frontplate would urge
me.

For my usage there are also two other arguments against the
5jack5pots-idea:

I create modules, that offer several jacks for one output or a feedthrujack
for each input, so I do not need 5 pots, but e.g. 3 jacks in one horizontal
line at the bottom of the frontplate for the output.

Also the most easy (!) diy projects should be digital modules, that do
require only a few pots but a lot of jacks.


And last but not least:

People who are able to solder an electronic circuit and add the pcb to the
frontplate mechanically should be able to drill a whole in the frontplate -
it is not that complicated.



So I would not buy one.

Florian
-- 
Florian Anwander                  |ConSol*  HP-Support
Tel.   +49.89.45841-133           |Consulting&Solutions Software GmbH
Fax    +49.89.45841-139           |Franziskanerstr. 38, D-81669 München
email: florian.anwander@consol.de |http://www.consol.de

hi florian,
also,i would not buy any blank frontpanel!if i did ,i
would make a diy module that would look ,not like an
"electronic garden",but more like an electronic
shithouse...:-)
bakis.


--- Florian Anwander <Florian.Anwander@consol.de>
wrote:
> Hi 
> 
> > What do people think of the blank panel idea?  
> Doepfer already offers Blankpanels with the whole
> for the screws
> (A100B1/2/4/8), but without wholes for jacks or
> pots. I would always use
> those for selfmade modules, since the position of
> switches, pots and jacks
> will always depend on my circuit layout. Due to the
> fact I use breadboard
> pcbs I cannot place always a pot or jack to where
> the frontplate would urge
> me.
> 
> For my usage there are also two other arguments
> against the
> 5jack5pots-idea:
> 
> I create modules, that offer several jacks for one
> output or a feedthrujack
> for each input, so I do not need 5 pots, but e.g. 3
> jacks in one horizontal
> line at the bottom of the frontplate for the output.
> 
> Also the most easy (!) diy projects should be
> digital modules, that do
> require only a few pots but a lot of jacks.
> 
> 
> And last but not least:
> 
> People who are able to solder an electronic circuit
> and add the pcb to the
> frontplate mechanically should be able to drill a
> whole in the frontplate -
> it is not that complicated.
> 
> 
> 
> So I would not buy one.
> 
> Florian
> -- 
> Florian Anwander                  |ConSol* 
> HP-Support
> Tel.   +49.89.45841-133          
> |Consulting&Solutions Software GmbH
> Fax    +49.89.45841-139           |Franziskanerstr.
> 38, D-81669 M�nchen
> email: florian.anwander@consol.de
> |http://www.consol.de
> 


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