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Re: info from doepfer about the development of the A107 and the A154.

2003-06-10 by selfoscillate

hello,

yes i would also prefer a switch instead of a jumper.
as we can see with the a127, users start adding those switches,
because jumpers are not practical.

regarding the a154, i think most people who vote here always want
the solution with a maximum of possible features.
my personal opinion is, that this is not a bad thing.
it will give more possibilities, even if these possibilities
are rarely used in the end.

best wishes

ingo



--- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, David Salter <david.salter@r...> 
wrote:
> Bakis
>  
> Two thoughts;
>  
> Is there another forum that Dieter gets feedback from?
>  
> If there is going to be a jumper to change osc modes on the A154, 
why
> not install a switch (apart from a little extra cost) then it's more
> flexible.
>  
> Regards
>  
>  
> 
> David Salter 
> 
> Tel: +44 20 7542 2402 
> Mob: +44 7990562402 
> Fax: +44 20 7542 2699 
> 
> 	-----Original Message-----
> 	From: Bakis Sirros [mailto:synth_freak_2000@y...] 
> 	Sent: 10 June 2003 13:21
> 	To: Doepfer_a100 group
> 	Subject: [Doepfer_a100] info from doepfer about the 
development
> of the A107 and the A154.
> 	
> 	
> 	DOEPFER SAYS:
> 	"we still have some (minor) problems with the A-107
> 	(not with the module generally but with the slew
> 	limiting function). The pure hardware slew limiter is
> 	working now but now the disadvantage is that there is
> 	no display if the module is still morphing to the new
> 	filter or if the new filter is already reached. As
> 	long as the slew function was under software control
> 	the microcontroller "knew" if the slew/morphing had
> 	been finished. So we will try another way: combined
> 	soft/hardware slew limiting, i.e. the software has the
> 	main control over the slew function and the additional
> 	VC hardware slew limiter only irons out the small
> 	steps caused because of the 8 bit resolution of the
> 	DAC that is used for the VCA control. I will keep you
> 	informed about the proceedings.
> 	Consequently I cannot confirm that the A-107 will be
> 	available in August as we still have to find the final
> 	solution for the 100% smooth slew function with
> 	display. As soon as we have tested the combined
> 	soft/hardware slew function I can tell you more.
> 	
> 	Thanks for the poll results. The SOU result was not
> 	very surprising. But the VC first/last step for the
> 	A-154 was really unexpected as it differs completely
> 	from the suggestions of other A-100 users (not members
> 	of the Yahoo group). Most of these users suggested
> 	answer b (only VC last step in all non CV addressed
> 	modes) but no d (2 additonal CV inputs). We will
> 	discuss in the company the results and see if we
> 	really add the additional CV inputs for first/last
> 	step. If we would have only the response from the
> 	Yahoo group there would be no question and we would
> 	simply add the CV inputs. 
> 	For the oscillator mode we think about another
> 	solution: a jumper on the pc board so that the user
> 	could select between the two versions.
> 	
> 	Best wishes
> 	Dieter Doepfer"
> 	
> 	
> 	
> 	SO...MEMBERS, KEEP ON VOTING FOR THE SOU MODULES AND
> 	THE A154!!!:-)
> 	BAKIS.
> 	
> 	
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RE: [Doepfer_a100] info from doepfer about the development of the A107 and the A154.

2003-06-10 by David Salter

Bakis
 
Two thoughts;
 
Is there another forum that Dieter gets feedback from?
 
If there is going to be a jumper to change osc modes on the A154, why
not install a switch (apart from a little extra cost) then it's more
flexible.
 
Regards
 
 

David Salter 

Tel: +44 20 7542 2402 
Mob: +44 7990562402 
Fax: +44 20 7542 2699 
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	-----Original Message-----
	From: Bakis Sirros [mailto:synth_freak_2000@yahoo.com] 
	Sent: 10 June 2003 13:21
	To: Doepfer_a100 group
	Subject: [Doepfer_a100] info from doepfer about the development
of the A107 and the A154.
	
	
	DOEPFER SAYS:
	"we still have some (minor) problems with the A-107
	(not with the module generally but with the slew
	limiting function). The pure hardware slew limiter is
	working now but now the disadvantage is that there is
	no display if the module is still morphing to the new
	filter or if the new filter is already reached. As
	long as the slew function was under software control
	the microcontroller "knew" if the slew/morphing had
	been finished. So we will try another way: combined
	soft/hardware slew limiting, i.e. the software has the
	main control over the slew function and the additional
	VC hardware slew limiter only irons out the small
	steps caused because of the 8 bit resolution of the
	DAC that is used for the VCA control. I will keep you
	informed about the proceedings.
	Consequently I cannot confirm that the A-107 will be
	available in August as we still have to find the final
	solution for the 100% smooth slew function with
	display. As soon as we have tested the combined
	soft/hardware slew function I can tell you more.
	
	Thanks for the poll results. The SOU result was not
	very surprising. But the VC first/last step for the
	A-154 was really unexpected as it differs completely
	from the suggestions of other A-100 users (not members
	of the Yahoo group). Most of these users suggested
	answer b (only VC last step in all non CV addressed
	modes) but no d (2 additonal CV inputs). We will
	discuss in the company the results and see if we
	really add the additional CV inputs for first/last
	step. If we would have only the response from the
	Yahoo group there would be no question and we would
	simply add the CV inputs. 
	For the oscillator mode we think about another
	solution: a jumper on the pc board so that the user
	could select between the two versions.
	
	Best wishes
	Dieter Doepfer"
	
	
	
	SO...MEMBERS, KEEP ON VOTING FOR THE SOU MODULES AND
	THE A154!!!:-)
	BAKIS.
	
	
	
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RE: [Doepfer_a100] info from doepfer about the development of the A107 and the A154.

2003-06-10 by Bakis Sirros

hi david,
nice idea about the a154.agree!
no,there isn't any other doepfer forum,AFAIK...
but dieter gets feedback from direct user emails to
him and from the expo's...
bakis.


--- David Salter <david.salter@reuters.com> wrote:
> Bakis
>  
> Two thoughts;
>  
> Is there another forum that Dieter gets feedback
> from?
>  
> If there is going to be a jumper to change osc modes
> on the A154, why
> not install a switch (apart from a little extra
> cost) then it's more
> flexible.
>  
> Regards
>  
>  
> 
> David Salter 
> 
> Tel: +44 20 7542 2402 
> Mob: +44 7990562402 
> Fax: +44 20 7542 2699 
> 
> 	-----Original Message-----
> 	From: Bakis Sirros
> [mailto:synth_freak_2000@yahoo.com] 
> 	Sent: 10 June 2003 13:21
> 	To: Doepfer_a100 group
> 	Subject: [Doepfer_a100] info from doepfer about the
> development
> of the A107 and the A154.
> 	
> 	
> 	DOEPFER SAYS:
> 	"we still have some (minor) problems with the A-107
> 	(not with the module generally but with the slew
> 	limiting function). The pure hardware slew limiter
> is
> 	working now but now the disadvantage is that there
> is
> 	no display if the module is still morphing to the
> new
> 	filter or if the new filter is already reached. As
> 	long as the slew function was under software
> control
> 	the microcontroller "knew" if the slew/morphing had
> 	been finished. So we will try another way: combined
> 	soft/hardware slew limiting, i.e. the software has
> the
> 	main control over the slew function and the
> additional
> 	VC hardware slew limiter only irons out the small
> 	steps caused because of the 8 bit resolution of the
> 	DAC that is used for the VCA control. I will keep
> you
> 	informed about the proceedings.
> 	Consequently I cannot confirm that the A-107 will
> be
> 	available in August as we still have to find the
> final
> 	solution for the 100% smooth slew function with
> 	display. As soon as we have tested the combined
> 	soft/hardware slew function I can tell you more.
> 	
> 	Thanks for the poll results. The SOU result was not
> 	very surprising. But the VC first/last step for the
> 	A-154 was really unexpected as it differs
> completely
> 	from the suggestions of other A-100 users (not
> members
> 	of the Yahoo group). Most of these users suggested
> 	answer b (only VC last step in all non CV addressed
> 	modes) but no d (2 additonal CV inputs). We will
> 	discuss in the company the results and see if we
> 	really add the additional CV inputs for first/last
> 	step. If we would have only the response from the
> 	Yahoo group there would be no question and we would
> 	simply add the CV inputs. 
> 	For the oscillator mode we think about another
> 	solution: a jumper on the pc board so that the user
> 	could select between the two versions.
> 	
> 	Best wishes
> 	Dieter Doepfer"
> 	
> 	
> 	
> 	SO...MEMBERS, KEEP ON VOTING FOR THE SOU MODULES
> AND
> 	THE A154!!!:-)
> 	BAKIS.
> 	
> 	
> 	
> 	=====
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> 	athens-greece
> 	[Doepfer_a100] group owner
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RE: [Doepfer_a100] info from doepfer about the development of the A107 and the A154.

2003-06-10 by Bakis Sirros

hi again,
dieter was reffering to the poll results,as they were
some days ago.now the results are more clear and,i
think,he will finally decide to include the extra pots
and inputs to the a154.
bakis.


--- David Salter <david.salter@reuters.com> wrote:
> Bakis
>  
> Two thoughts;
>  
> Is there another forum that Dieter gets feedback
> from?
>  
> If there is going to be a jumper to change osc modes
> on the A154, why
> not install a switch (apart from a little extra
> cost) then it's more
> flexible.
>  
> Regards
>  
>  
> 
> David Salter 
> 
> Tel: +44 20 7542 2402 
> Mob: +44 7990562402 
> Fax: +44 20 7542 2699 
> 
> 	-----Original Message-----
> 	From: Bakis Sirros
> [mailto:synth_freak_2000@yahoo.com] 
> 	Sent: 10 June 2003 13:21
> 	To: Doepfer_a100 group
> 	Subject: [Doepfer_a100] info from doepfer about the
> development
> of the A107 and the A154.
> 	
> 	
> 	DOEPFER SAYS:
> 	"we still have some (minor) problems with the A-107
> 	(not with the module generally but with the slew
> 	limiting function). The pure hardware slew limiter
> is
> 	working now but now the disadvantage is that there
> is
> 	no display if the module is still morphing to the
> new
> 	filter or if the new filter is already reached. As
> 	long as the slew function was under software
> control
> 	the microcontroller "knew" if the slew/morphing had
> 	been finished. So we will try another way: combined
> 	soft/hardware slew limiting, i.e. the software has
> the
> 	main control over the slew function and the
> additional
> 	VC hardware slew limiter only irons out the small
> 	steps caused because of the 8 bit resolution of the
> 	DAC that is used for the VCA control. I will keep
> you
> 	informed about the proceedings.
> 	Consequently I cannot confirm that the A-107 will
> be
> 	available in August as we still have to find the
> final
> 	solution for the 100% smooth slew function with
> 	display. As soon as we have tested the combined
> 	soft/hardware slew function I can tell you more.
> 	
> 	Thanks for the poll results. The SOU result was not
> 	very surprising. But the VC first/last step for the
> 	A-154 was really unexpected as it differs
> completely
> 	from the suggestions of other A-100 users (not
> members
> 	of the Yahoo group). Most of these users suggested
> 	answer b (only VC last step in all non CV addressed
> 	modes) but no d (2 additonal CV inputs). We will
> 	discuss in the company the results and see if we
> 	really add the additional CV inputs for first/last
> 	step. If we would have only the response from the
> 	Yahoo group there would be no question and we would
> 	simply add the CV inputs. 
> 	For the oscillator mode we think about another
> 	solution: a jumper on the pc board so that the user
> 	could select between the two versions.
> 	
> 	Best wishes
> 	Dieter Doepfer"
> 	
> 	
> 	
> 	SO...MEMBERS, KEEP ON VOTING FOR THE SOU MODULES
> AND
> 	THE A154!!!:-)
> 	BAKIS.
> 	
> 	
> 	
> 	=====
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> 	[Doepfer_a100] group owner
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Re: [Doepfer_a100] info from doepfer about the development of the A107 and the A154.

2003-06-10 by Paul Schulz

hi,

I´d rather like to see jumpers, so I can modify the A-154 and have my 
own special unique custom version ;-)
Seriously, folks: I don´t see the point why Doepfer use jumpers so 
often. Adding a switch isn´t that expensive and the users will 
appreciate this. It makes a huge difference if you can just hit a rocker 
switch or if you have to unscrew your module from the case, re-position 
the jumper and mount the module back in the case.

P.

David Salter wrote:
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> Bakis
>
> Two thoughts;
>
> Is there another forum that Dieter gets feedback from?
>
> If there is going to be a jumper to change osc modes on the A154, why
> not install a switch (apart from a little extra cost) then it's more
> flexible.

Re: [Doepfer_a100] info from doepfer about the development of the A107 and the A154.

2003-06-11 by Andreas Lindholm

I second that, I have never touched a jumper in  my system, it is way to
much work when I am making music. Jumper are set on way for me and then I
leave them there. Quite simple too lazy for jumpers.


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Paul Schulz" <dasfonk@web.de>
To: <Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2003 12:39 AM
Subject: Re: [Doepfer_a100] info from doepfer about the development of the
A107 and the A154.
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> hi,
>
> I´d rather like to see jumpers, so I can modify the A-154 and have my
> own special unique custom version ;-)
> Seriously, folks: I don´t see the point why Doepfer use jumpers so
> often. Adding a switch isn´t that expensive and the users will
> appreciate this. It makes a huge difference if you can just hit a rocker
> switch or if you have to unscrew your module from the case, re-position
> the jumper and mount the module back in the case.
>
> P.
>
> David Salter wrote:
>
> > Bakis
> >
> > Two thoughts;
> >
> > Is there another forum that Dieter gets feedback from?
> >
> > If there is going to be a jumper to change osc modes on the A154, why
> > not install a switch (apart from a little extra cost) then it's more
> > flexible.
>
>
>
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