Doepfer

hello denis,
i wish i could buy these plan B vco's too...
for me these vco's are forbiden, as the greek customs
are really crazy. i do not know at all what will the
final price be after they get past the customs.
so, i REALLY wish for a future doepfer super vco
module!
bakis.






--- denis goekdag <q-art@gmx.net> wrote:
> boy am i gonna be shot by the lady when i go home
> 
> i decided to follow the
> I_NEED_MORE_OSCILLATORS-directive and ordered 3 
> plan B mod 15's.
> 
> *biiig smile*
> 
> no idea what i'm gonna eat...but hey, thinking of it
> as a hunger-strike 
> for fatter sound will help ;)
> 
> 
> another thing that makes nice noises is using the
> combo a-135/144 
> morphing controller with vc mixer...4 vcos in
> harmonic relationship 
> (well, maybe not sooo harmonic..? ) into the mixer,
> a 5th vco to morph 
> between them---> very complex, organic timbres can
> be made. sort of 
> inbetween ringmodulation, fm  and ..eh...stuff..;)
> or you could actually let these 5 vcos play a nice
> chord-progression 
> with this setup....that might be REALLY interesting.
> usage of just 
> tuning strongly recommended.
> 
> hmm
> 
> :)
> 
> 
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >>> but where it gets really crazy is when you use a
> cv to select the
> >> step
> >>> in such a setup. i.e. use the sawtooth ouput of
> the VCO you're
> >>> modulating to select the active step; this way
> you will
> >>> �� have up to 8 different modulator waveforms
> within 1 cycle of the
> >>> carrier (or you could think of it as a single
> modulator with variable
> >>> frequency/spectrum).
> >>
> >>  Ok, please stop posting things like this.� I was
> *just* getting my
> >> desire to
> >>  acquire more modules under control.� I'm going
> to have to call my
> >> sponsor at
> >>  modaholics anonymous now.
> >>
> >>  rgds
> >>
> >>  Pierre
> >>
> >>  p.s. I am kidding obviously.� By all means keep
> posting things like
> >> this :)
> >>
> 
> 

Bakis Siros
Parallel Worlds / Polariton
Athens-Greece
[Doepfer_a100] group owner
http://www.shimarecords.co.uk
http://www.ward12.com


		
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i thought so too...but check this:

http://europa.eu.int/comm/taxation_customs/dds/cgi-bin/tarchap?Taric=9207105000&Download=0&Periodic=0&ProdLine=80&Lang=DE&SimDate=20050312&Country=----------&YesNo=1&Indent=2&Action=1#OK



...this is for germany. you'll have to switch it to greek, obviously
(in the top of the page) and use the same TARIC code. and enter the US
as source/destination country. This will tell you what import taxes
are due. add VAT and you're there.

I actually found out that it's 3.2% import-tax + 16% vat for
germany...which still is a lot but not prohibitively so.

hope this helps

d

Hi group.
What are these Plan B VCO's your talking about??

I guess what's up for discussion are these:
http://www.bigcitymusic.com/product.asp?cat=New&pid=1000030

So how are they compared to Doepfer VCOs?

/gustaf

--- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, "boward_k" <bovar.kalim@e...> 
wrote:

> 
> Hi group.
> What are these Plan B VCO's your talking about??

--- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, "gargar1974" <gustaf@p...> wrote:
> 
> I guess what's up for discussion are these:
> http://www.bigcitymusic.com/product.asp?cat=New&pid=1000030
> 
> So how are they compared to Doepfer VCOs?
> 
> /gustaf
> 
> --- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, "boward_k" <bovar.kalim@e...> 
> wrote:
> > 
> > Hi group.
> > What are these Plan B VCO's your talking about??

There's a Yahoogroup devoted to them -- PLAN_B_analog_blog

People seem to like them a lot. 

The one thing I'm concerned is it looks like a one man operation so be aware you'll have a 
long long wait to ship  despite them appearing for sale at Big City. 

 I'm personally a tiny bit annoyed that I sent Peter Grenader an email trying to buy one on 
pre-order (before Big City afaik and without the Big City commission) and he didn't send a 
return e-mail saying all spoken for or buy it at Big City or whatever was appropriate.

http://www.buzzclick-music.com/model_15.html

this is the link with stuff to listen to. what made me decide to get
them is the demo of the saw-wave and the PWM example....SWEET sounding
to my ears.

but i must admit that while big city music replied to my mails
instantly, mr grenader hasn't (but i guess the "i'm from europe and
would like to avoid import taxes, any options?" type of mail i sent
him is NOT the type of mail one likes to answer...hehe).

bcm said they should be available by mid april, so i'll see ;)

(it's not that i wouldn't know what to spend my cash on instead
like..immediately. come to daddy, mr. vactrol phaser)

For the record, I'm still waiting for 1 Plan B VCO I ordered in July 2004.

--Chuck

> -----Original Message-----
> From: polygen01 [mailto:q-art@gmx.net]
> Sent: Sunday, March 13, 2005 7:16 PM
> To: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [Doepfer_a100] Re: what are these plan b's
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> http://www.buzzclick-music.com/model_15.html
> 
> this is the link with stuff to listen to. what made me decide to get
> them is the demo of the saw-wave and the PWM example....SWEET sounding
> to my ears.
> 
> but i must admit that while big city music replied to my mails
> instantly, mr grenader hasn't (but i guess the "i'm from europe and
> would like to avoid import taxes, any options?" type of mail i sent
> him is NOT the type of mail one likes to answer...hehe).
> 
> bcm said they should be available by mid april, so i'll see ;)
> 
> (it's not that i wouldn't know what to spend my cash on instead
> like..immediately. come to daddy, mr. vactrol phaser)
>