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RE: [Doepfer_a100] erwik vcf, was Re: New on the list

2006-01-03 by David Salter

500 euros is too much for me. I like mixing modules from other makers
but as I already have a 107 I'll pass.
 
Thanks for the info
 
David Salter
Senior Project Manager
Reuters Ltd
Tel       +44 20 7542 2402
Mob     +44 7990562402
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From: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf Of selfoscillate
Sent: 03 January 2006 16:02
To: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Doepfer_a100] erwik vcf, was Re: New on the list



right, thats where i've seen it too.
i asked for the price of that module quite a while
ago, before the a107 was released. they wanted nearly
500 euros for it, very expensive, especially when
looking at the a107 which still costs less than 300 euros,
even after the latest price increase.
ok, the erwik is hand-built and very rare, but that
alone doesn't make it a better filter than the a107.
it's for sure a cool collectors item, besides the
fact that it is still a good and versatile filter.
but the price really hurts

best wishes

ingo


--- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, "sci700" <dpf@s...> wrote:
>
> I'm not sure if they just haven't updated the site in a long time 
but they seem to have 
> one left here:
> http://www.analogue.org/network/frames24.htm
> (it's the swedish doepfer dealer)
> 
> best /d
> 
> 
> 
> 
> --- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, David Salter 
<david.salter@r...> wrote:
> >
> > Out of curiosity, is this filter still available, and if so where 
from?
> >  
> > Thanks
> >  
> > David
> >  
> > David Salter
> > Senior Project Manager
> > Reuters Ltd
> > Tel       +44 20 7542 2402
> > Mob     +44 7990562402
> > email    david.salter@r...
> > RM       david.salter.reuters@r...
> >  
> >  
> > 
> > ________________________________
> > 
> > From: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com 
[mailto:Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com]
> > On Behalf Of sci700
> > Sent: 03 January 2006 14:20
> > To: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: [Doepfer_a100] erwik vcf, was Re: New on the list
> > 
> > 
> > just checked, resonance selfoscillates at these filter modes:
> > 
> > 1. no (1 pole Low) 
> > 2. yes (2 pole Low) 
> > 3. no (3 pole Low) 
> > 4. yes (4 pole Low) 
> > 5. no (1 pole High) 
> > 6. no (2 pole High) 
> > 7. no (3 pole High) 
> > 8. yes (2 pole Band) 
> > 9. yes (4 pole Band) 
> > A. no (2 pole Notch) 
> > B. no (3 pole Phase) 
> > C. yes (2 pole High + 1 pole Low) 
> > D. yes (3 pole High + 1 pole Low) 
> > E. yes (2 pole Notch + 1 pole Low) 
> > F. yes (3 pole Phase + 1 pole Low) 
> > 
> > /d
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > --- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, "selfoscillate"
> > <synaptic_music@y...> wrote:
> > >
> > > 
> > > hello daniel,
> > > 
> > > the a107 uses a cem 3379.
> > > just a short question, does the erwik start oscillating
> > > at full resonance in all filter modes? i'm especially
> > > interested in the highpass modes. thanks :-)
> > > 
> > > best wishes
> > > 
> > > ingo
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > --- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, "sci700" <dpf@s...> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Hi Ingo,
> > > > i have the Erwik filter too. I think it sounds really 
beatiful, I 
> > > use it a lot. But at a 
> > > > slightly lower price the A-107 can do the same and more, so...
> > > > The Erwik uses the CEM3372, is that what's in the A-107 too?
> > > > 
> > > > best /Daniel
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > --- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, "selfoscillate" 
> > > <synaptic_music@y...> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > 
> > > > > hello michael,
> > > > > 
> > > > > nice to have you on board :-)
> > > > > 
> > > > > do you like the erwik filter?
> > > > > it caught my attention a few years ago,
> > > > > but i refused to buy it because of the
> > > > > high price tag. now that the a107 is
> > > > > available, this seems to be valid
> > > > > even more. what is your opinion,
> > > > > does the erwik offer something which
> > > > > makes it worth the money (besides the
> > > > > fact that it is ultra-rare)?
> > > > > 
> > > > > many thanks
> > > > > 
> > > > > best wishes
> > > > > 
> > > > > ingo
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > --- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, "Michael O." 
> > > > > <megathlon2000@y...> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Hi all! Have been a member of this group for a couple of 
months 
> > > > > now,
> > > > > > and it's nice to see there are many out there that share 
my 
> > > > > interest in
> > > > > > modular systems. I actually prefer my modulars than my 
regular
> > > > > > synthesizers. Easier to create new sounds, and also makes 
your 
> > > > > brain
> > > > > > work a little.. ;)
> > > > > > I'm still in progress of remaking the studio since my 
last move 
> > > a 
> > > > > year
> > > > > > and a half ago.. (some things take time.. :))
> > > > > > On the other hand, I have bought some more equipment to 
the 
> > > setup,
> > > > > > mainly Doepfer-modules. (And 4 synthesizers and a string 
> > > > > machine..) I
> > > > > > have been lazy not doing a proper homepage, the old one 
was 
> > > deleted
> > > > > > when I moved. (Changed ISP) I have one new under 
construction, 
> > > but 
> > > > > it
> > > > > > will take forever to finish, I guess.. ;)
> > > > > > Anyway, I have taken some pictures of my last work, 
mainly 
> > > filling 
> > > > > up a
> > > > > > cabinet I bought which included some modules already.
> > > > > > I have been busy buying modules from Germany (TBS-Hi 
> > > Michael! :D)
> > > > > > from time to time, and now it's finally complete! Brief 
info 
> > > about
> > > > > > myself: I am 37 from Sweden, and work in a computershop 
mainly 
> > > as a
> > > > > > service technician. I have been interested in electronic 
music 
> > > for 
> > > > > a
> > > > > > very long time, but the analogue era didn't start until 
the 
> > > middle 
> > > > > of
> > > > > > the 90's I think. Now I'm nearly only analogue.. :D I 
live in an
> > > > > > apartment 2 rooms and "kitchen" with 2 cats. I will later 
> > > present a
> > > > > > link with all my gear, but here goes the Doepfer:
> > > > > > http://hem.bredband.net/b301284/pics/pics.htm
> > > > > > http://hem.bredband.net/b301284/modules.htm
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Regards, Michael Otterholm, Sweden.
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > 
> > 
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erwik vcf, was Re: New on the list

2006-01-03 by selfoscillate

hello david,

same with me, the price was simply too high.
i don't know if the price is still valid, but i don't see
why the price should be much lower now.

best wishes

ingo



--- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, David Salter 
<david.salter@r...> wrote:
>
> 500 euros is too much for me. I like mixing modules from other 
makers
> but as I already have a 107 I'll pass.
>  
> Thanks for the info
>  
> David Salter
> Senior Project Manager
> Reuters Ltd
> Tel       +44 20 7542 2402
> Mob     +44 7990562402
> email    david.salter@r...
> RM       david.salter.reuters@r...
>  
>  
> 
> ________________________________
> 
> From: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com 
[mailto:Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com]
> On Behalf Of selfoscillate
> Sent: 03 January 2006 16:02
> To: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [Doepfer_a100] erwik vcf, was Re: New on the list
> 
> 
> 
> right, thats where i've seen it too.
> i asked for the price of that module quite a while
> ago, before the a107 was released. they wanted nearly
> 500 euros for it, very expensive, especially when
> looking at the a107 which still costs less than 300 euros,
> even after the latest price increase.
> ok, the erwik is hand-built and very rare, but that
> alone doesn't make it a better filter than the a107.
> it's for sure a cool collectors item, besides the
> fact that it is still a good and versatile filter.
> but the price really hurts
> 
> best wishes
> 
> ingo
> 
> 
> --- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, "sci700" <dpf@s...> wrote:
> >
> > I'm not sure if they just haven't updated the site in a long 
time 
> but they seem to have 
> > one left here:
> > http://www.analogue.org/network/frames24.htm
> > (it's the swedish doepfer dealer)
> > 
> > best /d
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > --- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, David Salter 
> <david.salter@r...> wrote:
> > >
> > > Out of curiosity, is this filter still available, and if so 
where 
> from?
> > >  
> > > Thanks
> > >  
> > > David
> > >  
> > > David Salter
> > > Senior Project Manager
> > > Reuters Ltd
> > > Tel       +44 20 7542 2402
> > > Mob     +44 7990562402
> > > email    david.salter@r...
> > > RM       david.salter.reuters@r...
> > >  
> > >  
> > > 
> > > ________________________________
> > > 
> > > From: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com 
> [mailto:Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com]
> > > On Behalf Of sci700
> > > Sent: 03 January 2006 14:20
> > > To: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com
> > > Subject: [Doepfer_a100] erwik vcf, was Re: New on the list
> > > 
> > > 
> > > just checked, resonance selfoscillates at these filter modes:
> > > 
> > > 1. no (1 pole Low) 
> > > 2. yes (2 pole Low) 
> > > 3. no (3 pole Low) 
> > > 4. yes (4 pole Low) 
> > > 5. no (1 pole High) 
> > > 6. no (2 pole High) 
> > > 7. no (3 pole High) 
> > > 8. yes (2 pole Band) 
> > > 9. yes (4 pole Band) 
> > > A. no (2 pole Notch) 
> > > B. no (3 pole Phase) 
> > > C. yes (2 pole High + 1 pole Low) 
> > > D. yes (3 pole High + 1 pole Low) 
> > > E. yes (2 pole Notch + 1 pole Low) 
> > > F. yes (3 pole Phase + 1 pole Low) 
> > > 
> > > /d
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > --- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, "selfoscillate"
> > > <synaptic_music@y...> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > 
> > > > hello daniel,
> > > > 
> > > > the a107 uses a cem 3379.
> > > > just a short question, does the erwik start oscillating
> > > > at full resonance in all filter modes? i'm especially
> > > > interested in the highpass modes. thanks :-)
> > > > 
> > > > best wishes
> > > > 
> > > > ingo
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > --- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, "sci700" <dpf@s...> 
wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Hi Ingo,
> > > > > i have the Erwik filter too. I think it sounds really 
> beatiful, I 
> > > > use it a lot. But at a 
> > > > > slightly lower price the A-107 can do the same and more, 
so...
> > > > > The Erwik uses the CEM3372, is that what's in the A-107 
too?
> > > > > 
> > > > > best /Daniel
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > --- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, "selfoscillate" 
> > > > <synaptic_music@y...> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > hello michael,
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > nice to have you on board :-)
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > do you like the erwik filter?
> > > > > > it caught my attention a few years ago,
> > > > > > but i refused to buy it because of the
> > > > > > high price tag. now that the a107 is
> > > > > > available, this seems to be valid
> > > > > > even more. what is your opinion,
> > > > > > does the erwik offer something which
> > > > > > makes it worth the money (besides the
> > > > > > fact that it is ultra-rare)?
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > many thanks
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > best wishes
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > ingo
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > --- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, "Michael O." 
> > > > > > <megathlon2000@y...> wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Hi all! Have been a member of this group for a couple 
of 
> months 
> > > > > > now,
> > > > > > > and it's nice to see there are many out there that 
share 
> my 
> > > > > > interest in
> > > > > > > modular systems. I actually prefer my modulars than my 
> regular
> > > > > > > synthesizers. Easier to create new sounds, and also 
makes 
> your 
> > > > > > brain
> > > > > > > work a little.. ;)
> > > > > > > I'm still in progress of remaking the studio since my 
> last move 
> > > > a 
> > > > > > year
> > > > > > > and a half ago.. (some things take time.. :))
> > > > > > > On the other hand, I have bought some more equipment 
to 
> the 
> > > > setup,
> > > > > > > mainly Doepfer-modules. (And 4 synthesizers and a 
string 
> > > > > > machine..) I
> > > > > > > have been lazy not doing a proper homepage, the old 
one 
> was 
> > > > deleted
> > > > > > > when I moved. (Changed ISP) I have one new under 
> construction, 
> > > > but 
> > > > > > it
> > > > > > > will take forever to finish, I guess.. ;)
> > > > > > > Anyway, I have taken some pictures of my last work, 
> mainly 
> > > > filling 
> > > > > > up a
> > > > > > > cabinet I bought which included some modules already.
> > > > > > > I have been busy buying modules from Germany (TBS-Hi 
> > > > Michael! :D)
> > > > > > > from time to time, and now it's finally complete! 
Brief 
> info 
> > > > about
> > > > > > > myself: I am 37 from Sweden, and work in a 
computershop 
> mainly 
> > > > as a
> > > > > > > service technician. I have been interested in 
electronic 
> music 
> > > > for 
> > > > > > a
> > > > > > > very long time, but the analogue era didn't start 
until 
> the 
> > > > middle 
> > > > > > of
> > > > > > > the 90's I think. Now I'm nearly only analogue.. :D I 
> live in an
> > > > > > > apartment 2 rooms and "kitchen" with 2 cats. I will 
later 
> > > > present a
> > > > > > > link with all my gear, but here goes the Doepfer:
> > > > > > > http://hem.bredband.net/b301284/pics/pics.htm
> > > > > > > http://hem.bredband.net/b301284/modules.htm
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Regards, Michael Otterholm, Sweden.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
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erwik vcf, was Re: New on the list

2006-01-03 by selfoscillate

hello michael,

phew, 10-15 euros is damn cheap, you're lucky :-)
yes, afaik the erwik filter is a limited edition,
only 12 were made.

best wishes

ingo


--- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, "Michael O." 
<megathlon2000@y...> wrote:
>
> Hi, I bought my filter second hand for about 10-15 euros, not sure 
how
> much, it was a part of the bargain with the cabinet and the other
> modules.
> I actually met Morgan (synthesizer network) when the filter was 
new to
> the market, I was impressed, but it was a bit expensive. It was 
meant
> to be a limited production, don't remember how many, perhaps 12? :)
> Nice to see others here got it too. Any ideas how much current it
> pulls?
> 
> Regards, Michael
> 
> --- David Salter <david.salter@r...> skrev:
> 
> 
> ---------------------------------
> 500 euros is too much for me. I like mixing modules from other 
makers
> but as I already have a 107 I'll pass.
>  
> Thanks for the info
>  
> David Salter
> Senior Project Manager
> Reuters Ltd
> Tel       +44 20 7542 2402
> Mob     +44 7990562402
> email    david.salter@r...
> RM       david.salter.reuters@r...
>  
>  
> 
> ________________________________
> 
> From: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com
> [mailto:Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com]
> On Behalf Of selfoscillate
> Sent: 03 January 2006 16:02
> To: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [Doepfer_a100] erwik vcf, was Re: New on the list
> 
> 
> 
> right, thats where i've seen it too.
> i asked for the price of that module quite a while
> ago, before the a107 was released. they wanted nearly
> 500 euros for it, very expensive, especially when
> looking at the a107 which still costs less than 300 euros,
> even after the latest price increase.
> ok, the erwik is hand-built and very rare, but that
> alone doesn't make it a better filter than the a107.
> it's for sure a cool collectors item, besides the
> fact that it is still a good and versatile filter.
> but the price really hurts
> 
> best wishes
> 
> ingo
> 
> 
> --- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, "sci700" <dpf@s...> wrote:
> >
> > I'm not sure if they just haven't updated the site in a long 
time 
> but they seem to have 
> > one left here:
> > http://www.analogue.org/network/frames24.htm
> > (it's the swedish doepfer dealer)
> > 
> > best /d
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > --- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, David Salter 
> <david.salter@r...> wrote:
> > >
> > > Out of curiosity, is this filter still available, and if so 
where 
> from?
> > >  
> > > Thanks
> > >  
> > > David
> > >  
> > > David Salter
> > > Senior Project Manager
> > > Reuters Ltd
> > > Tel       +44 20 7542 2402
> > > Mob     +44 7990562402
> > > email    david.salter@r...
> > > RM       david.salter.reuters@r...
> > >  
> > >  
> > > 
> > > ________________________________
> > > 
> > > From: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com 
> [mailto:Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com]
> > > On Behalf Of sci700
> > > Sent: 03 January 2006 14:20
> > > To: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com
> > > Subject: [Doepfer_a100] erwik vcf, was Re: New on the list
> > > 
> > > 
> > > just checked, resonance selfoscillates at these filter modes:
> > > 
> > > 1. no (1 pole Low) 
> > > 2. yes (2 pole Low) 
> > > 3. no (3 pole Low) 
> > > 4. yes (4 pole Low) 
> > > 5. no (1 pole High) 
> > > 6. no (2 pole High) 
> > > 7. no (3 pole High) 
> > > 8. yes (2 pole Band) 
> > > 9. yes (4 pole Band) 
> > > A. no (2 pole Notch) 
> > > B. no (3 pole Phase) 
> > > C. yes (2 pole High + 1 pole Low) 
> > > D. yes (3 pole High + 1 pole Low) 
> > > E. yes (2 pole Notch + 1 pole Low) 
> > > F. yes (3 pole Phase + 1 pole Low) 
> > > 
> > > /d
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > --- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, "selfoscillate"
> > > <synaptic_music@y...> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > 
> > > > hello daniel,
> > > > 
> > > > the a107 uses a cem 3379.
> > > > just a short question, does the erwik start oscillating
> > > > at full resonance in all filter modes? i'm especially
> > > > interested in the highpass modes. thanks :-)
> > > > 
> > > > best wishes
> > > > 
> > > > ingo
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > --- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, "sci700" <dpf@s...> 
wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Hi Ingo,
> > > > > i have the Erwik filter too. I think it sounds really 
> beatiful, I 
> > > > use it a lot. But at a 
> > > > > slightly lower price the A-107 can do the same and more, 
so...
> > > > > The Erwik uses the CEM3372, is that what's in the A-107 
too?
> > > > > 
> > > > > best /Daniel
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > --- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, "selfoscillate" 
> > > > <synaptic_music@y...> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > hello michael,
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > nice to have you on board :-)
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > do you like the erwik filter?
> > > > > > it caught my attention a few years ago,
> > > > > > but i refused to buy it because of the
> > > > > > high price tag. now that the a107 is
> > > > > > available, this seems to be valid
> > > > > > even more. what is your opinion,
> > > > > > does the erwik offer something which
> > > > > > makes it worth the money (besides the
> > > > > > fact that it is ultra-rare)?
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > many thanks
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > best wishes
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > ingo
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > --- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, "Michael O." 
> > > > > > <megathlon2000@y...> wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Hi all! Have been a member of this group for a couple 
of 
> months 
> > > > > > now,
> > > > > > > and it's nice to see there are many out there that 
share 
> my 
> > > > > > interest in
> > > > > > > modular systems. I actually prefer my modulars than my 
> regular
> > > > > > > synthesizers. Easier to create new sounds, and also 
makes 
> your 
> > > > > > brain
> > > > > > > work a little.. ;)
> > > > > > > I'm still in progress of remaking the studio since my 
> last move 
> > > > a 
> > > > > > year
> > > > > > > and a half ago.. (some things take time.. :))
> > > > > > > On the other hand, I have bought some more equipment 
to 
> the 
> > > > setup,
> > > > > > > mainly Doepfer-modules. (And 4 synthesizers and a 
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> > > > > > machine..) I
> > > > > > > have been lazy not doing a proper homepage, the old 
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> > > > deleted
> > > > > > > when I moved. (Changed ISP) I have one new under 
> construction, 
> > > > but 
> > > > > > it
> > > > > > > will take forever to finish, I guess.. ;)
> > > > > > > Anyway, I have taken some pictures of my last work, 
> mainly 
> > > > filling 
> > > > > > up a
> > > > > > > cabinet I bought which included some modules already.
> > > > > > > I have been busy buying modules from Germany (TBS-Hi 
> > > > Michael! :D)
> > > > > > > from time to time, and now it's finally complete! 
Brief 
> info 
> > > > about
> > > > > > > myself: I am 37 from Sweden, and work in a 
computershop 
> mainly 
> > > > as a
> > > > > > > service technician. I have been interested in 
electronic 
> music 
> > > > for 
> > > > > > a
> > > > > > > very long time, but the analogue era didn't start 
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> the 
> > > > middle 
> > > > > > of
> > > > > > > the 90's I think. Now I'm nearly only analogue.. :D I 
> live in an
> > > > > > > apartment 2 rooms and "kitchen" with 2 cats. I will 
later 
> > > > present a
> > > > > > > link with all my gear, but here goes the Doepfer:
> > > > > > > http://hem.bredband.net/b301284/pics/pics.htm
> > > > > > > http://hem.bredband.net/b301284/modules.htm
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RE: [Doepfer_a100] erwik vcf, was Re: New on the list

2006-01-03 by Michael O.

Hi, I bought my filter second hand for about 10-15 euros, not sure how
much, it was a part of the bargain with the cabinet and the other
modules.
I actually met Morgan (synthesizer network) when the filter was new to
the market, I was impressed, but it was a bit expensive. It was meant
to be a limited production, don't remember how many, perhaps 12? :)
Nice to see others here got it too. Any ideas how much current it
pulls?

Regards, Michael

--- David Salter <david.salter@reuters.com> skrev:


---------------------------------
500 euros is too much for me. I like mixing modules from other makers
but as I already have a 107 I'll pass.
 
Thanks for the info
 
David Salter
Senior Project Manager
Reuters Ltd
Tel       +44 20 7542 2402
Mob     +44 7990562402
email    david.salter@reuters.com
RM       david.salter.reuters@reuters.net
 
 

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From: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf Of selfoscillate
Sent: 03 January 2006 16:02
To: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Doepfer_a100] erwik vcf, was Re: New on the list



right, thats where i've seen it too.
i asked for the price of that module quite a while
ago, before the a107 was released. they wanted nearly
500 euros for it, very expensive, especially when
looking at the a107 which still costs less than 300 euros,
even after the latest price increase.
ok, the erwik is hand-built and very rare, but that
alone doesn't make it a better filter than the a107.
it's for sure a cool collectors item, besides the
fact that it is still a good and versatile filter.
but the price really hurts

best wishes

ingo


--- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, "sci700" <dpf@s...> wrote:
>
> I'm not sure if they just haven't updated the site in a long time 
but they seem to have 
> one left here:
> http://www.analogue.org/network/frames24.htm
> (it's the swedish doepfer dealer)
> 
> best /d
> 
> 
> 
> 
> --- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, David Salter 
<david.salter@r...> wrote:
> >
> > Out of curiosity, is this filter still available, and if so where 
from?
> >  
> > Thanks
> >  
> > David
> >  
> > David Salter
> > Senior Project Manager
> > Reuters Ltd
> > Tel       +44 20 7542 2402
> > Mob     +44 7990562402
> > email    david.salter@r...
> > RM       david.salter.reuters@r...
> >  
> >  
> > 
> > ________________________________
> > 
> > From: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com 
[mailto:Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com]
> > On Behalf Of sci700
> > Sent: 03 January 2006 14:20
> > To: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: [Doepfer_a100] erwik vcf, was Re: New on the list
> > 
> > 
> > just checked, resonance selfoscillates at these filter modes:
> > 
> > 1. no (1 pole Low) 
> > 2. yes (2 pole Low) 
> > 3. no (3 pole Low) 
> > 4. yes (4 pole Low) 
> > 5. no (1 pole High) 
> > 6. no (2 pole High) 
> > 7. no (3 pole High) 
> > 8. yes (2 pole Band) 
> > 9. yes (4 pole Band) 
> > A. no (2 pole Notch) 
> > B. no (3 pole Phase) 
> > C. yes (2 pole High + 1 pole Low) 
> > D. yes (3 pole High + 1 pole Low) 
> > E. yes (2 pole Notch + 1 pole Low) 
> > F. yes (3 pole Phase + 1 pole Low) 
> > 
> > /d
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > --- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, "selfoscillate"
> > <synaptic_music@y...> wrote:
> > >
> > > 
> > > hello daniel,
> > > 
> > > the a107 uses a cem 3379.
> > > just a short question, does the erwik start oscillating
> > > at full resonance in all filter modes? i'm especially
> > > interested in the highpass modes. thanks :-)
> > > 
> > > best wishes
> > > 
> > > ingo
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > --- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, "sci700" <dpf@s...> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Hi Ingo,
> > > > i have the Erwik filter too. I think it sounds really 
beatiful, I 
> > > use it a lot. But at a 
> > > > slightly lower price the A-107 can do the same and more, so...
> > > > The Erwik uses the CEM3372, is that what's in the A-107 too?
> > > > 
> > > > best /Daniel
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > --- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, "selfoscillate" 
> > > <synaptic_music@y...> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > 
> > > > > hello michael,
> > > > > 
> > > > > nice to have you on board :-)
> > > > > 
> > > > > do you like the erwik filter?
> > > > > it caught my attention a few years ago,
> > > > > but i refused to buy it because of the
> > > > > high price tag. now that the a107 is
> > > > > available, this seems to be valid
> > > > > even more. what is your opinion,
> > > > > does the erwik offer something which
> > > > > makes it worth the money (besides the
> > > > > fact that it is ultra-rare)?
> > > > > 
> > > > > many thanks
> > > > > 
> > > > > best wishes
> > > > > 
> > > > > ingo
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > --- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, "Michael O." 
> > > > > <megathlon2000@y...> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Hi all! Have been a member of this group for a couple of 
months 
> > > > > now,
> > > > > > and it's nice to see there are many out there that share 
my 
> > > > > interest in
> > > > > > modular systems. I actually prefer my modulars than my 
regular
> > > > > > synthesizers. Easier to create new sounds, and also makes 
your 
> > > > > brain
> > > > > > work a little.. ;)
> > > > > > I'm still in progress of remaking the studio since my 
last move 
> > > a 
> > > > > year
> > > > > > and a half ago.. (some things take time.. :))
> > > > > > On the other hand, I have bought some more equipment to 
the 
> > > setup,
> > > > > > mainly Doepfer-modules. (And 4 synthesizers and a string 
> > > > > machine..) I
> > > > > > have been lazy not doing a proper homepage, the old one 
was 
> > > deleted
> > > > > > when I moved. (Changed ISP) I have one new under 
construction, 
> > > but 
> > > > > it
> > > > > > will take forever to finish, I guess.. ;)
> > > > > > Anyway, I have taken some pictures of my last work, 
mainly 
> > > filling 
> > > > > up a
> > > > > > cabinet I bought which included some modules already.
> > > > > > I have been busy buying modules from Germany (TBS-Hi 
> > > Michael! :D)
> > > > > > from time to time, and now it's finally complete! Brief 
info 
> > > about
> > > > > > myself: I am 37 from Sweden, and work in a computershop 
mainly 
> > > as a
> > > > > > service technician. I have been interested in electronic 
music 
> > > for 
> > > > > a
> > > > > > very long time, but the analogue era didn't start until 
the 
> > > middle 
> > > > > of
> > > > > > the 90's I think. Now I'm nearly only analogue.. :D I 
live in an
> > > > > > apartment 2 rooms and "kitchen" with 2 cats. I will later 
> > > present a
> > > > > > link with all my gear, but here goes the Doepfer:
> > > > > > http://hem.bredband.net/b301284/pics/pics.htm
> > > > > > http://hem.bredband.net/b301284/modules.htm
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Regards, Michael Otterholm, Sweden.
> > > > > >
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> > >
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AW: [Doepfer_a100] erwik vcf, was Re: New on the list

2006-01-04 by Dieter Doepfer

Hello all,

I'm in the company today as we have to take inventory during we are closed
and found some messages from the group. Here are my comments to some of the
messages:

Erwik filter:

Try to contact Jesper Erwik Johansson (jesper.johansson@mhm.lu.se)
concerning the required current. We were in contact during the development
of the A-107 as this module is based on his filter. The A-107 uses the same
filter circuit as the Erwik and Oberheim filter. Doug Curtis of CES told me
that the filter section of the CEM3372 is exactly the same as of the
CEM3379. Only the additional VCAs are different (2 VCAs at the input for the
CEM3372, 2 output panning VCAs for the CEM3379). The basic principle of the
Oberheim, Erwik and A-107 is the same: the 4 outputs of the filter stages
(i.e. the 6/12/18/24 dB outputs of the low pass) are mixed toghether with
different amplitudes and signs to obtain the different filter types. For the
Oberheim and Erwik filter 15 fixed amplitude/sign relations are realized
with fixed resistors and electronic switches. Instead of this the A-107 uses
4 VCAs to be able to obtain any relation of the 4 filter stages and to add
the morphing feature (i.e. smooth transitions between the different filter
combinations). The control voltages for the 4 VCAs are generated by 4 DACs
(digital to analog converters) that are controlled by a microcontroller
(uC). The parameters for each filter type (36 for the A-107 instead of 15)
are stored in the uC memory. To obtain morphing each VCA control voltage is
processed by a voltage controlled slew limiter. So a lot of hardware is
required to obtain all the A-107 functions (24 dB filter low pass + 4 VCAs +
4 DACs + 4 VC slew limiters + uC).


Modification of guitar stomp boxes (and similar) for external control:

One solution (as described by Florian) is to use an external clock. All BBDs
I know require a dual phase clock with opposite polarity. Normally a
flip-flop (e.g. CD4013) or a special circuit (e.g. MN3102) is used to
generate the dual phase clock from a normal (single phase) clock by
frequency division (1:2). One has to find out the type of power supply used
in the box in question (e.g. single like +9V or +12V, or dual like +/-5V,
+/-9V) to find the right solution for the level of the external clock signal
and the insert point of the circuit. Normally a npn-transistor with a
pull-up resistor to the positive terminal of the internal power supply will
do the job. But that's nothing for electronic beginners.

Another solution is the usage of the announced universal vactrol module
A-101-9. Normally a variable resistor (potentiometer) is used for the
internal clock circuit. One of the vactrol outputs of the A-101-9 has to be
connected in parallel to this potentiometer and the potentiometer has to be
turned to it's max. setting (i.e. to the longest delay time). Now the clock
rate (and consequently the flange/chorus/delay time) is controlled by the
control voltage fed into the A-101-9.


Battery of A-112 (even valid for MCV24, Regelwerk, Schaltwerk):

We will add a remark to all manual of these devices that the battery
(chargeable version, "accumulator") should be checked about every two years.
The batteries are available as spare parts from us but even most of our
representatives have them in stock. Standard 3.6V chargeable batteries for
memory protection are used. They are even available in electronic shops.


Clock suppression for BBD devices:

The A-188-1 will become a small additional redesign with an additional CV
output that reflects the sum of all CV inputs (i.e. manual control + CV1
without attenuator + CV2 with attenuator). This can be used to control the
CV input of an external VCF (low pass) that follows the BBD setting.


Free pc boards:

We have already changed our production to lead-free soldering and lead-free
parts end of last year. We have a lot of unassembled pc boards left that are
not yet lead-free. As it is not possible to combine both types of pc boards
in the production series (because of pullution of the solder bath) we give
away these pc boards to A-100 DIYs for free (only together with any A-100
order because of the shipment charges). A detailed list will follow soon.
The A-100 service manual is required as you need to know the parts list,
position of the electronic parts and so on. Otherwise we will ask for ~ Euro
5 for the copy of the service manual of the module in question. Attention:
the assembly and adjustment procedures in the service manual are in German
language only.


All the best for the new year

Dieter Doepfer

a188/1 redesign -> was: erwik vcf, was Re: New on the list

2006-01-04 by selfoscillate

> Clock suppression for BBD devices:
> 
> The A-188-1 will become a small additional redesign with an 
additional CV
> output that reflects the sum of all CV inputs (i.e. manual control + 
CV1
> without attenuator + CV2 with attenuator). This can be used to 
control the
> CV input of an external VCF (low pass) that follows the BBD setting.


hello dieter,

that is a great addition, a very good idea.

best wishes

ingo

FS: Doepfer A-100 G3

2006-01-05 by Robert Hoffman

So I'm scaling back a bit and selling a Doefper A-100G3, that's a 3  
space rack with a power supply. Excellent condition, it had only one  
module in it and never left the studio. Asking $325 plus shipping.  
Will ship within the USA only, paypal preferred.

Thanks

Rob

Re: [Doepfer_a100] FS: Doepfer A-100 G3

2006-01-05 by Eyesaw

Hi Rob:

       Thanks anyway,

Bill
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