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Re: [Ensoniq-VFX-SD] SD-1 Sequencer keeping time

2004-07-31 by Jay Barnes

Thanks to everyone for all the response.  Now that I
know it can be done I'll keep reading the manual.  I
must be missing it due to reading too fast.
Jay

--- mishon66@... wrote:

> 
>    On the issue of having trouble sequencing in
> time, I always sequence at 120 bpm even if the part
> is to be played faster. You will have plenty of head
> room to speed up the seq and this is a good pace for
> most all parts.
> Always use the click track! listen closely for the
> click track and make sure your first key down or
> note played is on the LOUD tone which is the
> beginning of the 4/4 count or what ever count your
> using. 
> 
> Make sure your VFXSD is setup so that when you press
> REC/PLAY the click track starts but the seq is not
> recording until the first key down or note played. 
> 
> I use this setup to my advantage by starting the
> REC/PLAY and listening to the click track and
> tapping out the parts on the case above the keys,
> when I am ready and have the beat down I will jump
> to the keys.
> 
> On Quantizing when I do use it, I use 1/16 for most
> of the parts I sequence, this will allow for a loose
> sequence style to be quantized in time. 
> 
> Your working with one of the best hardware
> sequencers ever made and there are many options and
> ways to lay down the tracks, sequencing is just like
> anything else it takes time and practice. 
> 
> I believe the VFXSD line has WAY more features and
> quality than say the Roland MC 300/500 and 50mkll or
> Alesis MMT8, there are dozens of hardware sequencers
> out there and I have used many of them but always
> found the VFXSD line the best.
> 
>  Richard 
> 
> 
> In a message dated 7/30/2004 11:05:31 AM Eastern
> Daylight Time, "Rodney Mcdonald"
> <rodneymc@...> writes:
> 
> >Jay,
> > 
> >You can do what you want, using the append
> function, starting with a
> >fundamental repeated track.
> > 
> >For example:
> >Create a drum track that 's 2 measures long, the
> append that track to the
> >end of itself. (now 4 measures long),
> >repeat it again, and now becomes 8 measures long.
> > 
> >Then you can lay down a 8 bar blues track for bass,
> for example, on a
> >separate track, within the same sequence.
> > 
> >The VFD/SD sequencer is extremely powerful. \ufffd
> > 
> >I recommend doing what Frank suggests. \ufffdAs music is
> typically repeated in
> >phrases, sequence the small parts first, copy and
> change similar parts in
> >different sequences or using different tracks of
> the same sequence, then use
> >the song type of sequence to build your song, and
> sequence the melody using
> >a song track. \ufffdTherefore you may have sequences
> called: \ufffdIntro, Verse 1,
> >Verse 2, Bridge, Chorus, , Ending/Outro
> > 
> >Then your song would be the parts of the sequences
> > 
> >Intro
> >Verse 1: repeat 1
> >Verse 2: repeat 2
> >Chorus: repeat 2
> >Verse1: repeat 2
> >Bridge
> >Chorus: repeat2 
> >Ending/Outro
> > 
> >It's almost like writing a program. \ufffdThe Sequences
> are the functions, and
> >the Song is the main program stringing everything
> all together.
> > 
> >If you're having trouble keeping time, you can
> 'cheat'' and use step
> >recording. \ufffdIt can be a little complicated, but
> works great with complicated
> >runs. \ufffd 
> > 
> >Since it's midi, play your best, and then if you
> make mistakes in timing or
> >notes, you can go and edit events to clean it up
> and sound like a pro!
> > 
> >Good luck!
> > 
> >Rodney
> > 
> > 
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: Jay Barnes [mailto:apdced34@...] 
> >Sent: Friday, July 30, 2004 10:29 AM
> >To: Ensoniq-VFX-SD@yahoogroups.com
> >Subject: Re: [Ensoniq-VFX-SD] SD-1 Sequencer
> >
> >
> >I may be mistaken but it sounds like you're wanting
> to
> >do what I'm trying to do. \ufffdLay down some drum
> tracks
> >to play along with (guitar, organ piano etc). The
> >problem I've had is that it's very difficult to
> keep a
> >steady rythm (even using the quantize function)
> >through the whole song. Even doing one drum sound
> at a
> >time on 3 to 5 tracks (on 1 sequence)I manage to
> screw
> >it up the first few tries. I managed to lay down
> drum
> >tracks on two sequences (same beat)and then another
> >(different beat)for a change over from the chorus
> to
> >the verse (and vice versa) but I had to keep very
> >careful count and bounce back and forth between the
> >sequences in order to get the order right. Does
> anyone
> >know how or if a sequence can be duplicated rather
> >than looped or having to do what I did? In other
> >words, lay down one good sequence (one measure of
> >music), copy it (all tracks)to say 8 to 10 other
> >sequences? \ufffdThe only copy function I've been able
> to
> >find is for the effects etc.
> >Jay
> >
> >
> >--- mebig guy <mebigguyx@...> wrote:
> >
> >> I envisioned the sd-1 sequencer working
> differently
> >> when I was told it had 12 loopable sequence
> tracks
> >> and
> >> 12 song tracks. \ufffdI expected to be able to lay
> down a
> >> looping sequence of arbitrary length and it would
> >> keep
> >> looping, meanwhile I could lay down abother loop
> and
> >> it would sequence, etc. \ufffdObviously I was wrong,
> but
> >> I'd still like to be able to do that. \ufffdFor
> example,
> >> lay down a drum track, loop it, lay down a bass
> >> track,
> >> loop it. and so on (drums a bass both playing
> now). 
> >> Then maybe go back to the drum track and add in a
> >> high-hat. \ufffdThen play along with rythmn guitar,
> etc. 
> >> Then program it all to sequence correctly (maybe
> >> chage
> >> to a different drum loop occationally). \ufffdSo my
> >> question is: \ufffdwhat equipment do I need to be able
> to
> >> do that easily? \ufffdDo others find the sequencer to
> be
> >> limiting? \ufffdDo you have "tricks" to get it behave
> as
> >> you want?
> >> 
> >> This isn't meant to be a criticism, just a search
> >> for
> >> new ideas.
> >> 
> >> Thanks for any replies
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
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