Patches and discussion for Ensoniq VFX family

On the issue of having trouble sequencing in time, I always sequence at 120 bpm even if the part is to be played faster. You will have plenty of head room to speed up the seq and this is a good pace for most all parts.
Always use the click track! listen closely for the click track and make sure your first key down or note played is on the LOUD tone which is the beginning of the 4/4 count or what ever count your using. 

Make sure your VFXSD is setup so that when you press REC/PLAY the click track starts but the seq is not recording until the first key down or note played. 

I use this setup to my advantage by starting the REC/PLAY and listening to the click track and tapping out the parts on the case above the keys, when I am ready and have the beat down I will jump to the keys.

On Quantizing when I do use it, I use 1/16 for most of the parts I sequence, this will allow for a loose sequence style to be quantized in time. 

Your working with one of the best hardware sequencers ever made and there are many options and ways to lay down the tracks, sequencing is just like anything else it takes time and practice. 

I believe the VFXSD line has WAY more features and quality than say the Roland MC 300/500 and 50mkll or Alesis MMT8, there are dozens of hardware sequencers out there and I have used many of them but always found the VFXSD line the best.

 Richard 


In a message dated 7/30/2004 11:05:31 AM Eastern Daylight Time, "Rodney Mcdonald" <rodneymc@...> writes:

>Jay,
> 
>You can do what you want, using the append function, starting with a
>fundamental repeated track.
> 
>For example:
>Create a drum track that 's 2 measures long, the append that track to the
>end of itself. (now 4 measures long),
>repeat it again, and now becomes 8 measures long.
> 
>Then you can lay down a 8 bar blues track for bass, for example, on a
>separate track, within the same sequence.
> 
>The VFD/SD sequencer is extremely powerful. \ufffd
> 
>I recommend doing what Frank suggests. \ufffdAs music is typically repeated in
>phrases, sequence the small parts first, copy and change similar parts in
>different sequences or using different tracks of the same sequence, then use
>the song type of sequence to build your song, and sequence the melody using
>a song track. \ufffdTherefore you may have sequences called: \ufffdIntro, Verse 1,
>Verse 2, Bridge, Chorus, , Ending/Outro
> 
>Then your song would be the parts of the sequences
> 
>Intro
>Verse 1: repeat 1
>Verse 2: repeat 2
>Chorus: repeat 2
>Verse1: repeat 2
>Bridge
>Chorus: repeat2 
>Ending/Outro
> 
>It's almost like writing a program. \ufffdThe Sequences are the functions, and
>the Song is the main program stringing everything all together.
> 
>If you're having trouble keeping time, you can 'cheat'' and use step
>recording. \ufffdIt can be a little complicated, but works great with complicated
>runs. \ufffd 
> 
>Since it's midi, play your best, and then if you make mistakes in timing or
>notes, you can go and edit events to clean it up and sound like a pro!
> 
>Good luck!
> 
>Rodney
> 
> 
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Jay Barnes [mailto:apdced34@...] 
>Sent: Friday, July 30, 2004 10:29 AM
>To: Ensoniq-VFX-SD@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: Re: [Ensoniq-VFX-SD] SD-1 Sequencer
>
>
>I may be mistaken but it sounds like you're wanting to
>do what I'm trying to do. \ufffdLay down some drum tracks
>to play along with (guitar, organ piano etc). The
>problem I've had is that it's very difficult to keep a
>steady rythm (even using the quantize function)
>through the whole song. Even doing one drum sound at a
>time on 3 to 5 tracks (on 1 sequence)I manage to screw
>it up the first few tries. I managed to lay down drum
>tracks on two sequences (same beat)and then another
>(different beat)for a change over from the chorus to
>the verse (and vice versa) but I had to keep very
>careful count and bounce back and forth between the
>sequences in order to get the order right. Does anyone
>know how or if a sequence can be duplicated rather
>than looped or having to do what I did? In other
>words, lay down one good sequence (one measure of
>music), copy it (all tracks)to say 8 to 10 other
>sequences? \ufffdThe only copy function I've been able to
>find is for the effects etc.
>Jay
>
>
>--- mebig guy <mebigguyx@...> wrote:
>
>> I envisioned the sd-1 sequencer working differently
>> when I was told it had 12 loopable sequence tracks
>> and
>> 12 song tracks. \ufffdI expected to be able to lay down a
>> looping sequence of arbitrary length and it would
>> keep
>> looping, meanwhile I could lay down abother loop and
>> it would sequence, etc. \ufffdObviously I was wrong, but
>> I'd still like to be able to do that. \ufffdFor example,
>> lay down a drum track, loop it, lay down a bass
>> track,
>> loop it. and so on (drums a bass both playing now). 
>> Then maybe go back to the drum track and add in a
>> high-hat. \ufffdThen play along with rythmn guitar, etc. 
>> Then program it all to sequence correctly (maybe
>> chage
>> to a different drum loop occationally). \ufffdSo my
>> question is: \ufffdwhat equipment do I need to be able to
>> do that easily? \ufffdDo others find the sequencer to be
>> limiting? \ufffdDo you have "tricks" to get it behave as
>> you want?
>> 
>> This isn't meant to be a criticism, just a search
>> for
>> new ideas.
>> 
>> Thanks for any replies
>> 
>> 
>> 
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Thanks to everyone for all the response.  Now that I
know it can be done I'll keep reading the manual.  I
must be missing it due to reading too fast.
Jay

--- mishon66@... wrote:

> 
>    On the issue of having trouble sequencing in
> time, I always sequence at 120 bpm even if the part
> is to be played faster. You will have plenty of head
> room to speed up the seq and this is a good pace for
> most all parts.
> Always use the click track! listen closely for the
> click track and make sure your first key down or
> note played is on the LOUD tone which is the
> beginning of the 4/4 count or what ever count your
> using. 
> 
> Make sure your VFXSD is setup so that when you press
> REC/PLAY the click track starts but the seq is not
> recording until the first key down or note played. 
> 
> I use this setup to my advantage by starting the
> REC/PLAY and listening to the click track and
> tapping out the parts on the case above the keys,
> when I am ready and have the beat down I will jump
> to the keys.
> 
> On Quantizing when I do use it, I use 1/16 for most
> of the parts I sequence, this will allow for a loose
> sequence style to be quantized in time. 
> 
> Your working with one of the best hardware
> sequencers ever made and there are many options and
> ways to lay down the tracks, sequencing is just like
> anything else it takes time and practice. 
> 
> I believe the VFXSD line has WAY more features and
> quality than say the Roland MC 300/500 and 50mkll or
> Alesis MMT8, there are dozens of hardware sequencers
> out there and I have used many of them but always
> found the VFXSD line the best.
> 
>  Richard 
> 
> 
> In a message dated 7/30/2004 11:05:31 AM Eastern
> Daylight Time, "Rodney Mcdonald"
> <rodneymc@...> writes:
> 
> >Jay,
> > 
> >You can do what you want, using the append
> function, starting with a
> >fundamental repeated track.
> > 
> >For example:
> >Create a drum track that 's 2 measures long, the
> append that track to the
> >end of itself. (now 4 measures long),
> >repeat it again, and now becomes 8 measures long.
> > 
> >Then you can lay down a 8 bar blues track for bass,
> for example, on a
> >separate track, within the same sequence.
> > 
> >The VFD/SD sequencer is extremely powerful. \ufffd
> > 
> >I recommend doing what Frank suggests. \ufffdAs music is
> typically repeated in
> >phrases, sequence the small parts first, copy and
> change similar parts in
> >different sequences or using different tracks of
> the same sequence, then use
> >the song type of sequence to build your song, and
> sequence the melody using
> >a song track. \ufffdTherefore you may have sequences
> called: \ufffdIntro, Verse 1,
> >Verse 2, Bridge, Chorus, , Ending/Outro
> > 
> >Then your song would be the parts of the sequences
> > 
> >Intro
> >Verse 1: repeat 1
> >Verse 2: repeat 2
> >Chorus: repeat 2
> >Verse1: repeat 2
> >Bridge
> >Chorus: repeat2 
> >Ending/Outro
> > 
> >It's almost like writing a program. \ufffdThe Sequences
> are the functions, and
> >the Song is the main program stringing everything
> all together.
> > 
> >If you're having trouble keeping time, you can
> 'cheat'' and use step
> >recording. \ufffdIt can be a little complicated, but
> works great with complicated
> >runs. \ufffd 
> > 
> >Since it's midi, play your best, and then if you
> make mistakes in timing or
> >notes, you can go and edit events to clean it up
> and sound like a pro!
> > 
> >Good luck!
> > 
> >Rodney
> > 
> > 
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: Jay Barnes [mailto:apdced34@...] 
> >Sent: Friday, July 30, 2004 10:29 AM
> >To: Ensoniq-VFX-SD@yahoogroups.com
> >Subject: Re: [Ensoniq-VFX-SD] SD-1 Sequencer
> >
> >
> >I may be mistaken but it sounds like you're wanting
> to
> >do what I'm trying to do. \ufffdLay down some drum
> tracks
> >to play along with (guitar, organ piano etc). The
> >problem I've had is that it's very difficult to
> keep a
> >steady rythm (even using the quantize function)
> >through the whole song. Even doing one drum sound
> at a
> >time on 3 to 5 tracks (on 1 sequence)I manage to
> screw
> >it up the first few tries. I managed to lay down
> drum
> >tracks on two sequences (same beat)and then another
> >(different beat)for a change over from the chorus
> to
> >the verse (and vice versa) but I had to keep very
> >careful count and bounce back and forth between the
> >sequences in order to get the order right. Does
> anyone
> >know how or if a sequence can be duplicated rather
> >than looped or having to do what I did? In other
> >words, lay down one good sequence (one measure of
> >music), copy it (all tracks)to say 8 to 10 other
> >sequences? \ufffdThe only copy function I've been able
> to
> >find is for the effects etc.
> >Jay
> >
> >
> >--- mebig guy <mebigguyx@...> wrote:
> >
> >> I envisioned the sd-1 sequencer working
> differently
> >> when I was told it had 12 loopable sequence
> tracks
> >> and
> >> 12 song tracks. \ufffdI expected to be able to lay
> down a
> >> looping sequence of arbitrary length and it would
> >> keep
> >> looping, meanwhile I could lay down abother loop
> and
> >> it would sequence, etc. \ufffdObviously I was wrong,
> but
> >> I'd still like to be able to do that. \ufffdFor
> example,
> >> lay down a drum track, loop it, lay down a bass
> >> track,
> >> loop it. and so on (drums a bass both playing
> now). 
> >> Then maybe go back to the drum track and add in a
> >> high-hat. \ufffdThen play along with rythmn guitar,
> etc. 
> >> Then program it all to sequence correctly (maybe
> >> chage
> >> to a different drum loop occationally). \ufffdSo my
> >> question is: \ufffdwhat equipment do I need to be able
> to
> >> do that easily? \ufffdDo others find the sequencer to
> be
> >> limiting? \ufffdDo you have "tricks" to get it behave
> as
> >> you want?
> >> 
> >> This isn't meant to be a criticism, just a search
> >> for
> >> new ideas.
> >> 
> >> Thanks for any replies
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
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