Patches and discussion for Ensoniq VFX family

Does this unit produce a good rock organ sound?

Thanks,
Eric

Thanks, do you have any idea where I can find some of the presets? and as
far as programming... I am very weak in that area, but I am getting
better.... I haven't got the VFX yet, but it should arrive in a couple of
days... I am looking forward to playing around with it..
 
Thanks for you help,
Eric

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From: Bob S. [mailto:tttsystems@...] 
Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2008 4:01 PM
To: Ensoniq-VFX-SD@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Ensoniq-VFX-SD] I have just bought a VFX.




Yes, I think so (although you won't have drawbars)...even sounds like ELP at
times.....but you will either have to find some of the good presets and load
them or do some programming of the sound yourself.....
 
Bob
El Segundo, CA
 

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From: Eric <mailto:edyer@...>  
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Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2008 12:42 PM
Subject: [Ensoniq-VFX-SD] I have just bought a VFX.


Does this unit produce a good rock organ sound?

Thanks,
Eric

The stock presets are lame, and the Leslie sim is terrible. Perhaps if you get good at programming you can come up with something better.

Rich

Sep 9, 2008 03:46:09 PM, Ensoniq-VFX-SD@yahoogroups.com wrote:

Maybe the VFX-SD is better.  I use the organizer sound  and drawbars-1 regularly.   IMHO using the tonewheel to start and stop the leslie sound gives and old B3 player like me the same sorts of control that I used to get with my B instead of that wishywashy press a little harder on the key like a Korg does.

Jim

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From: rhorton@... <rhorton@...>
Subject: Re: [Ensoniq-VFX-SD] I have just bought a VFX.
To: Ensoniq-VFX-SD@...m
Date: Tuesday, September 9, 2008, 4:37 PM










    
            


The stock presets are lame, and the Leslie sim is terrible. Perhaps if you get good at programming you can come up with something better.
Rich

Sep 9, 2008 03:46:09 PM, Ensoniq-VFX- SD@yahoogroups. com wrote:



   
           
Does this unit produce a good rock organ sound?

Thanks,
Eric

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Maybe the VFX-SD is better.� I use the organizer sound� and drawbars-1 regularly.�� IMHO using the tonewheel to start and stop the leslie sound gives and old B3 player like me the same sorts of control that I used to get with my B instead of that wishywashy press a little harder on the key like a Korg does.

Jim

I've never played a real B3.  I have played a Hammond Spinnet on
occasion, which is a true tonewheel Hammond, but this particular one
doesn't have a leslie attached.  So I'm not highly qualified on this;
but...

I don't believe there's a difference between the VFX and VFX-SD as far
as the organ sounds are concerned.  (VFX-SD added sequencer and some
drum/percussion sounds, VFX-SD-II added the mega piano; they have the
same organ samples and rotary speaker effects.)  So any organ patch
(a.k.a. program) you come up with on a VFX-SD should work on a VFX.
(I have both.)

I get different, sometimes better organ sounds from my JV-1080 and the
Keyboards of the 60's and 70's expansion board, but I still use the
VFX sounds about half the time.  My favorite is a variation on TIMBRE
ORG (I think that's what it was called).  But I'm doing more
church/gospelly things, not rocking out...  If you want to rock out,
be sure to try switching the effects to the rotary + distortion
setting (with any given organ sound).

On the patch version I use, I disabled the sustain function of the
sustain pedal (there's no sustain on a real organ anyway), and instead
use the sustain pedal to change rotary speaker speeds.  That means I
can have both hands on the keybed.  I have the dual foot pedal, and
use the other pedal as a patch select to select a different "drawbar"
setting.

Oh, and the dual sustain pedal I do with my right foot.  Left foot is
on a CV pedal assigned to volume.  I'd almost go so far as to say the
volume pedal is NOT OPTIONAL when playing organ sounds!  If you don't
have one, you don't know what you're missing.

--> Steve

On Tue, Sep 09, 2008 at 02:01:10PM -0700, James Pardonek wrote:

> Maybe the VFX-SD is better. I use the organizer sound and drawbars-1
> regularly. IMHO using the tonewheel to start and stop the leslie
> sound gives and old B3 player like me the same sorts of control that
> I used to get with my B instead of that wishywashy press a little
> harder on the key like a Korg does.
> 
> Jim
> 
> 
> The stock presets are lame, and the Leslie sim is terrible. Perhaps
> if you get good at programming you can come up with something
> better.

> Rich
> 
> Sep 9, 2008 03:46:09 PM, Ensoniq-VFX- SD@yahoogroups. com wrote:
> 
> Does this unit produce a good rock organ sound?
> 
> Thanks,
> Eric
> 
-- 
Steve Wahl    steve@...

Windows comes from a box. Linux comes from a community.

Where and what is this Leslie sim? Is it a patch?
Thanks;
 Mark

It is under effects....called roto-speaker or rotary speaker or something 
like that...(don't have my VFX/SD1 on right now)

It is usually used with hammond/rock organ presets....

Bob
El Segundo, CA

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From: markrubin53
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Sent: Saturday, January 03, 2009 7:17 AM
Subject: Re: [Ensoniq-VFX-SD] I have just bought a VFX.


Where and what is this Leslie sim? Is it a patch?
Thanks;
Mark

Bob S. wrote:
> It is under effects....called roto-speaker or rotary speaker or something 
> like that...(don't have my VFX/SD1 on right now)
> 
> It is usually used with hammond/rock organ presets....

Apply it to a piano patch for Pink Floyd "Echoes" sounds...

Gordon

Rotary is good for a lot of sounds, Yes! We have a radiochannel in
Denmark called DR Electronica. Yester-night I heard a piece that
sounded like it was solely made on a VFX or at least using a LOT of
VFX sounds. Still in use 19 years after it's release - amazing
considering most people see it as a ROMpler...!

Thinking out-of-the-box is where the VFX's really shines :)

Happy New Year to You all!

Claus, DK

--- In Ensoniq-VFX-SD@yahoogroups.com, Gordon JC Pearce MM3YEQ
<gordon@...> wrote:
>
> Bob S. wrote:
> > It is under effects....called roto-speaker or rotary speaker or
something 

> > like that...(don't have my VFX/SD1 on right now)
> > 
> > It is usually used with hammond/rock organ presets....
> 
> Apply it to a piano patch for Pink Floyd "Echoes" sounds...
> 
> Gordon
>

Claus wrote:
> Rotary is good for a lot of sounds, Yes! We have a radiochannel in
> Denmark called DR Electronica. Yester-night I heard a piece that
> sounded like it was solely made on a VFX or at least using a LOT of
> VFX sounds. Still in use 19 years after it's release - amazing
> considering most people see it as a ROMpler...!
> 

I had a VFX-SD about ten years ago which I sold, then just recently got 
a VFX.  One of the things that surprised me was how many presets (I 
found a site with a huge bunch of VFX, VFX-SD and SD1 presets) cropped 
up on a lot of music that I own.  I'm pretty sure the distinctive bass 
on Front 242's "Headhunter" (which came out the same year the VFX did) 
was a VFX preset...

Gordon

That's what I thought too, hearing it at a friends of mine :)

--- In Ensoniq-VFX-SD@yahoogroups.com, Gordon JC Pearce MM3YEQ
<gordon@...> wrote:

>
> Claus wrote:
> > Rotary is good for a lot of sounds, Yes! We have a radiochannel in
> > Denmark called DR Electronica. Yester-night I heard a piece that
> > sounded like it was solely made on a VFX or at least using a LOT of
> > VFX sounds. Still in use 19 years after it's release - amazing
> > considering most people see it as a ROMpler...!
> > 
> 
> I had a VFX-SD about ten years ago which I sold, then just recently got 
> a VFX.  One of the things that surprised me was how many presets (I 
> found a site with a huge bunch of VFX, VFX-SD and SD1 presets) cropped 
> up on a lot of music that I own.  I'm pretty sure the distinctive bass 
> on Front 242's "Headhunter" (which came out the same year the VFX did) 
> was a VFX preset...
> 
> Gordon
>

Hey - post the site please.


--- In Ensoniq-VFX-SD@yahoogroups.com, Gordon JC Pearce MM3YEQ
<gordon@...> wrote:

>
> Claus wrote:
> > Rotary is good for a lot of sounds, Yes! We have a radiochannel in
> > Denmark called DR Electronica. Yester-night I heard a piece that
> > sounded like it was solely made on a VFX or at least using a LOT of
> > VFX sounds. Still in use 19 years after it's release - amazing
> > considering most people see it as a ROMpler...!
> > 
> 
> I had a VFX-SD about ten years ago which I sold, then just recently got 
> a VFX.  One of the things that surprised me was how many presets (I 
> found a site with a huge bunch of VFX, VFX-SD and SD1 presets) cropped 
> up on a lot of music that I own.  I'm pretty sure the distinctive bass 
> on Front 242's "Headhunter" (which came out the same year the VFX did) 
> was a VFX preset...
> 
> Gordon
>

On Wed, 2009-01-07 at 14:37 +0000, k5kip_1999 wrote:
> Hey - post the site please.

http://www.mcwest.org/~mccreary/vfx/vfx_archive.html

The patches are uuencoded (oldskool) and gzipped.  I don't know if Sean
McCreary is on the list, but I can make decoded copies available for
anyone who doesn't have a handy Linux box assuming he gives permission
to do so.

Gordon

On Wed, Jan 07, 2009 at 02:57:22PM +0000, Gordon JC Pearce MM3YEQ wrote:
> On Wed, 2009-01-07 at 14:37 +0000, k5kip_1999 wrote:
> > Hey - post the site please.
> 
> http://www.mcwest.org/~mccreary/vfx/vfx_archive.html
> 
> The patches are uuencoded (oldskool) and gzipped.  I don't know if Sean
> McCreary is on the list, but I can make decoded copies available for
> anyone who doesn't have a handy Linux box assuming he gives permission
> to do so.

If you look at:

http://www2.pro-ns.net/~steve/music.html

You'll find this:

"For other's convenience, I've taken all the patches from the VFX Home
Page and UU-decoded and gunzipped them, then zipped them up into a
file called patches.zip."

http://www2.pro-ns.net/~steve/patches.zip

I don't think Sean's stuff saw any updates after I made the .zip file,
but let me know if I'm wrong there.

--> Steve

-- 
Steve Wahl    steve@...

Q: It reverses the logical flow of conversation.
A: Why is top posting frowned upon?

Here You go:
http://www.dr.dk/radio/?t

Best, Claus.

--- In Ensoniq-VFX-SD@yahoogroups.com, "k5kip_1999" <k5kip_1999@...>
wrote:
>
> Hey - post the site please.
> 
> 
> --- In Ensoniq-VFX-SD@yahoogroups.com, Gordon JC Pearce MM3YEQ
> <gordon@> wrote:
> >
> > Claus wrote:
> > > Rotary is good for a lot of sounds, Yes! We have a radiochannel in
> > > Denmark called DR Electronica. Yester-night I heard a piece that
> > > sounded like it was solely made on a VFX or at least using a LOT of
> > > VFX sounds. Still in use 19 years after it's release - amazing
> > > considering most people see it as a ROMpler...!
> > > 
> > 
> > I had a VFX-SD about ten years ago which I sold, then just
recently got 
> > a VFX.  One of the things that surprised me was how many presets (I 
> > found a site with a huge bunch of VFX, VFX-SD and SD1 presets)
cropped 
> > up on a lot of music that I own.  I'm pretty sure the distinctive
bass 
> > on Front 242's "Headhunter" (which came out the same year the VFX
did) 

> > was a VFX preset...
> > 
> > Gordon
> >
>

For a keyboard from the 80`s yes There is a leslie speaker simulation 
in most organ presets either  triggered from the mod wheel or the patch 
select buttons OOPS I really don`t know as I own an SD1 32 voice which 
has I believe, a different sample set

The organ samples are the same. But in the VFX SD-1 and the SD-1 (32
voice) some of the ekstra percussive waveforms are good for organ
percussion!

I have routed the slow/fast to a foot pedal (I have the double one)
and a volume to swell. It's not a B3 but setup right, it can growl as
well :)

Best, Claus

--- In Ensoniq-VFX-SD@yahoogroups.com, "neilb1o" <neilb1o@...> wrote:

>
> For a keyboard from the 80`s yes There is a leslie speaker simulation 
> in most organ presets either  triggered from the mod wheel or the patch 
> select buttons OOPS I really don`t know as I own an SD1 32 voice which 
> has I believe, a different sample set
>