Patches and discussion for Ensoniq VFX family

Hello,

I use an Ensoniq VFX-SD as a sequencer and sound module and have written over 60 sequenced songs stored on 14 disks and would like to re-arrange them in a more logical order.  I can't seem to find a method to copy and paste a single song to another disk with out over writing an existing song.  Please help.

jimstopa

--- In Ensoniq-VFX-SD@yahoogroups.com, "jstopa1955" <jstopa@...> wrote:
>
> Hello,
> 
> I use an Ensoniq VFX-SD as a sequencer and sound module and have written over 60 sequenced songs stored on 14 disks and would like to re-arrange them in a more logical order.  I can't seem to find a method to copy and paste a single song to another disk with out over writing an existing song.  Please help.
> 
> jimstopa
>

It should go something like: load in 60 song bank from old disk.
Insert new disk.  Save each song and/or sequence as a 1-sequence /
song file.  Clear sequencer memory, so all are blank.  Load in each 
1-sequence file from disk in the order you want them; It seems like 
they fill in the first available blank spot?  Save the resulting 60 
song bank to disk.

If you use sequences within your songs, you may have to re-work what 
sequences are in the songs if you've moved the sequences to different 
slots, as I think they might be referenced by slot number, not name.

You can of course pull your 1-song files you're combining from 
different 60-song banks.  If you are using different sound sets with 
two or more songs you want to get into one "file", you'll have to 
manually handle getting a single sound set with all the sounds 
together, and use "replace program" to get the right sounds into the 
right songs. 

I've never done this, and was hoping someone else with experience 
would reply.  But that doesn't seem to have happened.  So there you 
have something that may help you.

If it were me, I'd write the new song order onto new, blank disks, 
saving my old ones in case I screw up and lose something!

--> Steve Wahl

I think you should be able to use a Universal Librarian to arrange these things, if you're hooked up to a computer.

Otherwise, the last reply would be the way to go.  Another approach, and one that personally use is to just save every song as '60 songs w/programs.'  It's not very efficient, but it's really easy, and I always have the program sounds loaded.

--- In Ensoniq-VFX-SD@yahoogroups.com, "_steve_31" <steve@...> wrote:

>
> --- In Ensoniq-VFX-SD@yahoogroups.com, "jstopa1955" <jstopa@> wrote:
> >
> > Hello,
> > 
> > I use an Ensoniq VFX-SD as a sequencer and sound module and have written over 60 sequenced songs stored on 14 disks and would like to re-arrange them in a more logical order.  I can't seem to find a method to copy and paste a single song to another disk with out over writing an existing song.  Please help.
> > 
> > jimstopa
> >
> 
> It should go something like: load in 60 song bank from old disk.
> Insert new disk.  Save each song and/or sequence as a 1-sequence /
> song file.  Clear sequencer memory, so all are blank.  Load in each 
> 1-sequence file from disk in the order you want them; It seems like 
> they fill in the first available blank spot?  Save the resulting 60 
> song bank to disk.
> 
> If you use sequences within your songs, you may have to re-work what 
> sequences are in the songs if you've moved the sequences to different 
> slots, as I think they might be referenced by slot number, not name.
> 
> You can of course pull your 1-song files you're combining from 
> different 60-song banks.  If you are using different sound sets with 
> two or more songs you want to get into one "file", you'll have to 
> manually handle getting a single sound set with all the sounds 
> together, and use "replace program" to get the right sounds into the 
> right songs. 
> 
> I've never done this, and was hoping someone else with experience 
> would reply.  But that doesn't seem to have happened.  So there you 
> have something that may help you.
> 
> If it were me, I'd write the new song order onto new, blank disks, 
> saving my old ones in case I screw up and lose something!
> 
> --> Steve Wahl
>

--- In Ensoniq-VFX-SD@yahoogroups.com, "Dan Rue" <danrue@...> wrote:
>
> I think you should be able to use a Universal Librarian to arrange these things, if you're hooked up to a computer.
> 
> Otherwise, the last reply would be the way to go.  Another approach, and one that personally use is to just save every song as '60 songs w/programs.'  It's not very efficient, but it's really easy, and I always have the program sounds loaded.
> 
> --- In Ensoniq-VFX-SD@yahoogroups.com, "_steve_31" <steve@> wrote:
> >
> > --- In Ensoniq-VFX-SD@yahoogroups.com, "jstopa1955" <jstopa@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Hello,
> > > 
> > > I use an Ensoniq VFX-SD as a sequencer and sound module and have written over 60 sequenced songs stored on 14 disks and would like to re-arrange them in a more logical order.  I can't seem to find a method to copy and paste a single song to another disk with out over writing an existing song.  Please help.
> > > 
> > > jimstopa
> > >
> > 
> > It should go something like: load in 60 song bank from old disk.
> > Insert new disk.  Save each song and/or sequence as a 1-sequence /
> > song file.  Clear sequencer memory, so all are blank.  Load in each 
> > 1-sequence file from disk in the order you want them; It seems like 
> > they fill in the first available blank spot?  Save the resulting 60 
> > song bank to disk.
> > 
> > If you use sequences within your songs, you may have to re-work what 
> > sequences are in the songs if you've moved the sequences to different 
> > slots, as I think they might be referenced by slot number, not name.
> > 
> > You can of course pull your 1-song files you're combining from 
> > different 60-song banks.  If you are using different sound sets with 
> > two or more songs you want to get into one "file", you'll have to 
> > manually handle getting a single sound set with all the sounds 
> > together, and use "replace program" to get the right sounds into the 
> > right songs. 
> > 
> > I've never done this, and was hoping someone else with experience 
> > would reply.  But that doesn't seem to have happened.  So there you 
> > have something that may help you.
> > 
> > If it were me, I'd write the new song order onto new, blank disks, 
> > saving my old ones in case I screw up and lose something!
> > 
> > --> Steve Wahl
> >
>

Steve,

Thanks for the insite.  I will try that method tonight and let you know if it works.  I don't want to use a single disk for each song because, LIVE, it takes a time to relaod a song from a disk.  I would like to have at lease 5 songs on a disk to keep the flow of the night going.  Take a look at our web site and listen to the sequences I wrote and use live on the road.  

www.seequenceband.com

Thanks,

jimstopa

On Tue, 2009-04-21 at 19:16 -0700, Joe McMahon wrote:

> 
> - second and much more error-prone alternative, get more disks.
> Ideally another set of 14. Go through your disks very carefully and
> write down the sequences on each one. Make up a list of the songs in
> order, with the disk number noted on each. Begin copying.

You should have backups anyway, and 720k floppies are cheap - or at
least, they were when I bought 500 off eBay (new, boxed, with date codes
in the last five years) a couple of years ago for about 30 quid.

Gordon