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Modern "equivalent" to a VFX-SD / SD-1 ?

Modern "equivalent" to a VFX-SD / SD-1 ?

2011-12-12 by Christian Brunschen

Hi all,

One of the delightful things about the VFX series is their ease of access for playing around: the way you can play with the sounds if you want to, but also the good overview you can quickly get over the currently available sounds; how easily you can swap between sounds, presets, etc; and indeed the wide range of sounds available even out-of-the-box.

What options are there available today for something that would be, in some ways, a modern equivalent to a VFX-SD (or SD-1 or TS-10 or similar) that offers similar easy-to-access, easy-to-play-with, yet also being able to produce a wide range of good quality sounds, ability to change things, etc? 

Best wishes,

// Christian Brunschen

Re: Modern "equivalent" to a VFX-SD / SD-1 ?

2011-12-12 by audiosaucer

Hi,
I've been thinking the same thing and have come to the conclusion that to get a new instrument for replacement of a a VFX series synth is impossible, if the tonal character has to come along too.

On most modern synths and workstations it's pretty easy to switch between different modes too. But to get the 'easy flow' the VFX had/has, one has to search for a long time. Not many (any?) new instruments have so many dedicated physical Edit, Sequencer etc. buttons.

Best, Claus

--- In Ensoniq-VFX-SD@yahoogroups.com, Christian Brunschen <cb@...> wrote:
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> Hi all,
> 
> One of the delightful things about the VFX series is their ease of access for playing around: the way you can play with the sounds if you want to, but also the good overview you can quickly get over the currently available sounds; how easily you can swap between sounds, presets, etc; and indeed the wide range of sounds available even out-of-the-box.
> 
> What options are there available today for something that would be, in some ways, a modern equivalent to a VFX-SD (or SD-1 or TS-10 or similar) that offers similar easy-to-access, easy-to-play-with, yet also being able to produce a wide range of good quality sounds, ability to change things, etc? 
> 
> Best wishes,
> 
> // Christian Brunschen
>

Re: [Ensoniq-VFX-SD] Re: Modern "equivalent" to a VFX-SD / SD-1 ?

2011-12-12 by Christian Brunschen

On Dec 12, 2011, at 3:17 PM, audiosaucer wrote:

> Hi,
> I've been thinking the same thing and have come to the conclusion that to get a new instrument for replacement of a a VFX series synth is impossible, if the tonal character has to come along too.
> 
> On most modern synths and workstations it's pretty easy to switch between different modes too. But to get the 'easy flow' the VFX had/has, one has to search for a long time. Not many (any?) new instruments have so many dedicated physical Edit, Sequencer etc. buttons.

I'm not necessarily looking for something that is an "exact replacement". Since there will be a computer available for sequencing etc, that part is perhaps of lesser necessity; more important is the playfulness with sounds, and still having a variety of them available with good polyphony and multitimbrality, so that it's essentially a versatile 'general' keyboard with good synth-ish sounds and good sound programmability. Also the point isn't that it should sound just like a VFX-or-its-descendants, but more that it should be able to offer a similar range of sound-making-and-editing possibilities. Yes, I know that I can put all sorts of software instruments on that computer as well (and those will indeed be there) but there's a lot of fun to be had with something more "synthesizer workstation"-esque, and that's kind of what I'm trying to look for.

Perhaps as a contrast, there's already a Clavia Nord Electro present in the context - which has very specific strengths, in the area of organs and pianos. It can also play arbitrary downloaded samples, but the ... user interface for things other than organs&pianos is quite limited and doesn't really lend itself to exploration or play with the sounds as much.

> Best, Claus

Best wishes,

// Christian
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> --- In Ensoniq-VFX-SD@yahoogroups.com, Christian Brunschen <cb@...> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> One of the delightful things about the VFX series is their ease of access for playing around: the way you can play with the sounds if you want to, but also the good overview you can quickly get over the currently available sounds; how easily you can swap between sounds, presets, etc; and indeed the wide range of sounds available even out-of-the-box.
>> 
>> What options are there available today for something that would be, in some ways, a modern equivalent to a VFX-SD (or SD-1 or TS-10 or similar) that offers similar easy-to-access, easy-to-play-with, yet also being able to produce a wide range of good quality sounds, ability to change things, etc? 
>> 
>> Best wishes,
>> 
>> // Christian Brunschen
>> 
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> ------------------------------------
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> Yahoo! Groups Links
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Re: Modern "equivalent" to a VFX-SD / SD-1 ?

2011-12-12 by audiosaucer

I would, if budget is tight, probably choose a Yamaha MO6. Preetty easy to get around, and sounds is quite good for the asking price.

This should give You an example of one of the the Piano sounds:
http://www.motifator.com/index.php/musicplayer/listen/chillin

Or look up a KORG M50. Pretty neat, I think.
Among a lot of stuff, I have a KORG microX iow. no sequencer and only 2 octave keybord, and pretty cheaply build. But as a soundmodule, fed from a sequencer or hook up to a way better keyboard via MIDI - Wow! Nice Synth, Organs(!) and ePianos. Definately worth the asking price, the used ones sells for!

Best wishes,
Claus

 
--- In Ensoniq-VFX-SD@yahoogroups.com, Christian Brunschen <cb@...> wrote:
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> On Dec 12, 2011, at 3:17 PM, audiosaucer wrote:
> 
> > Hi,
> > I've been thinking the same thing and have come to the conclusion that to get a new instrument for replacement of a a VFX series synth is impossible, if the tonal character has to come along too.
> > 
> > On most modern synths and workstations it's pretty easy to switch between different modes too. But to get the 'easy flow' the VFX had/has, one has to search for a long time. Not many (any?) new instruments have so many dedicated physical Edit, Sequencer etc. buttons.
> 
> I'm not necessarily looking for something that is an "exact replacement". Since there will be a computer available for sequencing etc, that part is perhaps of lesser necessity; more important is the playfulness with sounds, and still having a variety of them available with good polyphony and multitimbrality, so that it's essentially a versatile 'general' keyboard with good synth-ish sounds and good sound programmability. Also the point isn't that it should sound just like a VFX-or-its-descendants, but more that it should be able to offer a similar range of sound-making-and-editing possibilities. Yes, I know that I can put all sorts of software instruments on that computer as well (and those will indeed be there) but there's a lot of fun to be had with something more "synthesizer workstation"-esque, and that's kind of what I'm trying to look for.
> 
> Perhaps as a contrast, there's already a Clavia Nord Electro present in the context - which has very specific strengths, in the area of organs and pianos. It can also play arbitrary downloaded samples, but the ... user interface for things other than organs&pianos is quite limited and doesn't really lend itself to exploration or play with the sounds as much.
> 
> > Best, Claus
> 
> Best wishes,
> 
> // Christian
> 
> 
> > --- In Ensoniq-VFX-SD@yahoogroups.com, Christian Brunschen <cb@> wrote:
> >> 
> >> Hi all,
> >> 
> >> One of the delightful things about the VFX series is their ease of access for playing around: the way you can play with the sounds if you want to, but also the good overview you can quickly get over the currently available sounds; how easily you can swap between sounds, presets, etc; and indeed the wide range of sounds available even out-of-the-box.
> >> 
> >> What options are there available today for something that would be, in some ways, a modern equivalent to a VFX-SD (or SD-1 or TS-10 or similar) that offers similar easy-to-access, easy-to-play-with, yet also being able to produce a wide range of good quality sounds, ability to change things, etc? 
> >> 
> >> Best wishes,
> >> 
> >> // Christian Brunschen
> >> 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > ------------------------------------
> > 
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> > 
> > 
> >
>

RE: [Ensoniq-VFX-SD] Re: Modern "equivalent" to a VFX-SD / SD-1 ?

2011-12-12 by Gary Brumm

Hi Christian,

You might want to look at Kurzweil.... either the older K series or the new PC series.
You can program them to do just about anything.

Gary

From: Ensoniq-VFX-SD@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ensoniq-VFX-SD@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Christian Brunschen
Sent: Monday, December 12, 2011 7:26 AM
To: Ensoniq-VFX-SD@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Ensoniq-VFX-SD] Re: Modern "equivalent" to a VFX-SD / SD-1 ?



On Dec 12, 2011, at 3:17 PM, audiosaucer wrote:

> Hi,
> I've been thinking the same thing and have come to the conclusion that to get a new instrument for replacement of a a VFX series synth is impossible, if the tonal character has to come along too.
>
> On most modern synths and workstations it's pretty easy to switch between different modes too. But to get the 'easy flow' the VFX had/has, one has to search for a long time. Not many (any?) new instruments have so many dedicated physical Edit, Sequencer etc. buttons.

I'm not necessarily looking for something that is an "exact replacement". Since there will be a computer available for sequencing etc, that part is perhaps of lesser necessity; more important is the playfulness with sounds, and still having a variety of them available with good polyphony and multitimbrality, so that it's essentially a versatile 'general' keyboard with good synth-ish sounds and good sound programmability. Also the point isn't that it should sound just like a VFX-or-its-descendants, but more that it should be able to offer a similar range of sound-making-and-editing possibilities. Yes, I know that I can put all sorts of software instruments on that computer as well (and those will indeed be there) but there's a lot of fun to be had with something more "synthesizer workstation"-esque, and that's kind of what I'm trying to look for.

Perhaps as a contrast, there's already a Clavia Nord Electro present in the context - which has very specific strengths, in the area of organs and pianos. It can also play arbitrary downloaded samples, but the ... user interface for things other than organs&pianos is quite limited and doesn't really lend itself to exploration or play with the sounds as much.

> Best, Claus

Best wishes,

// Christian
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> --- In Ensoniq-VFX-SD@yahoogroups.com<mailto:Ensoniq-VFX-SD%40yahoogroups.com>, Christian Brunschen <cb@...> wrote:
>>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> One of the delightful things about the VFX series is their ease of access for playing around: the way you can play with the sounds if you want to, but also the good overview you can quickly get over the currently available sounds; how easily you can swap between sounds, presets, etc; and indeed the wide range of sounds available even out-of-the-box.
>>
>> What options are there available today for something that would be, in some ways, a modern equivalent to a VFX-SD (or SD-1 or TS-10 or similar) that offers similar easy-to-access, easy-to-play-with, yet also being able to produce a wide range of good quality sounds, ability to change things, etc?
>>
>> Best wishes,
>>
>> // Christian Brunschen
>>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>

Re: [Ensoniq-VFX-SD] Re: Modern "equivalent" to a VFX-SD / SD-1 ?

2011-12-12 by jammie

and they take ensoniq samples
or opt for a asr10 then i can give you the full wave rom and all the transwaves
the asr10 is an amazing machine and can do all the vfx the sd1 the ts10
and with my user wavetables the asr10 or ts10/12 can be a blofeld a ppg an sq1
and much more
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----- Original Message -----
From: Gary Brumm
Sent: Monday, December 12, 2011 5:26 PM
Subject: RE: [Ensoniq-VFX-SD] Re: Modern "equivalent" to a VFX-SD / SD-1 ?

Hi Christian,

You might want to look at KurzweilÂ…. either the older K series or the new PC series. ;

You can program them to do just about anything.

Gary

From: Ensoniq-VFX-SD@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ensoniq-VFX-SD@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Christian Brunschen
Sent: Monday, December 12, 2011 7:26 AM
To: Ensoniq-VFX-SD@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Ensoniq-VFX-SD] Re: Modern "equivalent" to a VFX-SD / SD-1 ?

On Dec 12, 2011, at 3:17 PM, audiosaucer wrote:

> Hi,
> I've been thinking the same thing and have come to the conclusion that to get a new instrument for replacement of a a VFX series synth is impossible, if the tonal character has to come along too.
>
> On most modern synths and workstations it's pretty easy to switch between different modes too. But to get the 'easy flow' the VFX had/has, one has to search for a long time. Not many (any?) new instruments have so many dedicated physical Edit, Sequencer etc. buttons.

I'm not necessarily looking for something that is an "exact replacement". Since there will be a computer available for sequencing etc, that part is perhaps of lesser necessity; more important is the playfulness with sounds, and still having a variety of them available with good polyphony and multitimbrality, so that it's essentially a versatile 'general' keyboard with good synth-ish sounds and good sound programmability. Also the point isn't that it should sound just like a VFX-or-its-descendants, but more that it should be able to offer a similar range of sound-making-and-editing possibilities. Yes, I know that I can put all sorts of software instruments on that computer as well (and those will indeed be there) but there's a lot of fun to be had with something more "synthesizer workstation"-esque, and that's kind of what I'm trying to look for.

Perhaps as a contrast, there's already a Clavia Nord Electro present in the context - which has very specific strengths, in the area of organs and pianos. It can also play arbitrary downloaded samples, but the ... user interface for things other than organs&pianos is quite limited and doesn't really lend itself to exploration or play with the sounds as much.

> Best, Claus

Best wishes,

// Christian

> --- In Ensoniq-VFX-SD@yahoogroups.com, Christian Brunschen wrote:
>>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> One of the delightful things about the VFX series is their ease of access for playing around: the way you can play with the sounds if you want to, but also the good overview you can quickly get over the currently available sounds; how easily you can swap between sounds, presets, etc; and indeed the wide range of sounds available even out-of-the-box.
>>
>> What options are there available today for something that would be, in some ways, a modern equivalent to a VFX-SD (or SD-1 or TS-10 or similar) that offers similar easy-to-access, easy-to-play-with, yet also being able to produce a wide range of good quality sounds, ability to change things, etc?
>>
>> Best wishes,
>>
>> // Christian Brunschen
>>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>

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