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RE: [Fairlight-CMI] CMI III on ebay

2004-08-11 by Peter Connelly (Core Design Ltd.)

Hmmmm, might have to get one of these. I thought they'd be pretty much a cut down version of the JV and step up from the D-70. I didn't realise they'd be quite individual... I'd hate to have bought, say a JD990, and for it to sound pretty much like my JV/VX/XR :-/
Cheers,
P
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Subject: Re: [Fairlight-CMI] CMI III on ebay

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> BTW, I don't really know much spec of the JD's, although I have fiddled
> with them once or twice. What are they like? I have a JV1080, XV5080,
> Fantom XR. Are they similar, ie with tones and partials (and LA sythesis
> - D50/D70,etc)? What makes them different?

Well, generally JD is a hybrid synth, that is you get that Sample+synthesis
thing, but filter is analog apparently. People say JD are actually first
real
transition from D series into JV (JD 800 is said to be a repacked and
reprogrammed D70 with samples which were later included in JV80).

Having a JD-800 as the 'other' keyboard in my studio from my Series III I
feel I can offer some insight here. The JD is indeed a hybrid synth and is
very similar in architecture to the D-70 with the oscilator section giving
you 4 partials to play with as per the D70. The filter (a familiar Roland
TVF affair) is definitely digitally controlled (you can hear the
quantisation as you sweep) but gives a fantastically warm sound and a very
sharp tone when set with high resonance. It is very similar to the one
found in their S-760.

Having played with a D70 once, I can say that the 2 main differences are
that firstly the JD contains hardly any 'real' samples. Don't expect to
find lots of choirs, strings, pianos, brass etc - there are none. What you
do get is an excellent selection of basic waveforms from which to construct
sounds. The second main difference is the obvious one - the front panel.

Rambo is correct in saying that it can do very warm string type pads. It is
excellent at this and was indeed used on the PSB's album Very. Curiously
enough, its ability in this department has as much to do with the excellent
onboard efects as the sysnthesis capabilities of the machine itself. BTW:
when I first heard your track, I actually thought that the opening pad was
JD!

While I have my typing hat on, if you are after the FIII strings, there is
a sample CD out there called the Art of Sampling, which was created by JJ
from the Art of Noise. Nearly all the material on this CD is from his 2
Failights (Series II and III) and the 'string section' track contains the
stock Series III Cello's, Viola's and violin's. Personally, and it's only
my opinion, whilst these are fantastic sounds, I don't think they would
necessarily suit your track.

For me it's because I found out it can do very warm stringy pads, almost
like one I need. The PSP's "Very" album is a good demonstration of what JD
can.

> Sorry for the O/T questions guys!

Me too!
>
> Cheers,
> Peter
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Marcin 'Rambo' Roguski [mailto:rambo@id.uw.edu.pl]
> Sent: 11 August 2004 12:32
> To: Fairlight-CMI@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [Fairlight-CMI] CMI III on ebay
>
>
> On Wed, 11 Aug 2004 12:29:44 +0100
> "Peter Connelly \(Core Design Ltd.\)" wrote:
>
> >
http://search.ebay.co.uk/Roland-JD_W0QQsorecordsperpageZ50QQsalocatedincountryZ-15QQfromZR6

> >
> > It take it you mean a Roland JD?
>
> Yes, and eBay was my first look, however- see one of my previous posts,
> I can't really make use of eBay, because most folks want to use PayPal,
> who don't want to make business for Poland. That JD-990 is pretty
> interesting, though.
>
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RE: [Fairlight-CMI] CMI III on ebay

2004-08-11 by Chris Haworth

Peter - one thing I didn't add was that it's sound is not 'radically'
different from the JV / XVs. I also have a JV2080 and whilst the JD sounds
a little warmer, it wouldn't be enough to persuade me to buy one if I
didn't already have one (or had the collection of Roland's that you have
;-)  ).

Chris.



                                                                           
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Hmmmm, might have to get one of these. I thought they'd be pretty much a
cut down version of the JV and step up from the D-70. I didn't realise
they'd be quite individual... I'd hate to have bought, say a JD990, and for
it to sound pretty much like my JV/VX/XR :-/

Cheers,
P
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      -----Original Message-----
      From: Chris Haworth [mailto:christopher.haworth@uk.ibm.com]
      Sent: 11 August 2004 14:06
      To: Fairlight-CMI@yahoogroups.com
      Subject: Re: [Fairlight-CMI] CMI III on ebay


                   "Marcin 'Rambo'

                   Roguski"

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      > BTW, I don't really know much spec of the JD's, although I have
      fiddled
      > with them once or twice. What are they like? I have a JV1080,
      XV5080,
      > Fantom XR. Are they similar, ie with tones and partials (and LA
      sythesis
      > - D50/D70,etc)? What makes them different?

      Well, generally JD is a hybrid synth, that is you get that
      Sample+synthesis
      thing, but filter is analog apparently. People say JD are actually
      first
      real
      transition from D series into JV (JD 800 is said to be a repacked and
      reprogrammed D70 with samples which were later included in JV80).

      Having a JD-800 as the 'other' keyboard in my studio from my Series
      III I
      feel I can offer some insight here. The JD is indeed a hybrid synth
      and is
      very similar in architecture to the D-70 with the oscilator section
      giving
      you 4 partials to play with as per the D70. The filter (a familiar
      Roland
      TVF affair) is definitely digitally controlled (you can hear the
      quantisation as you sweep) but gives a fantastically warm sound and a
      very
      sharp tone when set with high resonance. It is very similar to the
      one
      found in their S-760.

      Having played with a D70 once, I can say that the 2 main differences
      are
      that firstly the JD contains hardly any 'real' samples. Don't expect
      to
      find lots of choirs, strings, pianos, brass etc - there are none.
      What you
      do get is an excellent selection of basic waveforms from which to
      construct
      sounds. The second main difference is the obvious one - the front
      panel.

      Rambo is correct in saying that it can do very warm string type pads.
      It is
      excellent at this and was indeed used on the PSB's album Very.
      Curiously
      enough, its ability in this department has as much to do with the
      excellent
      onboard efects as the sysnthesis capabilities of the machine itself.
      BTW:
      when I first heard your track, I actually thought that the opening
      pad was
      JD!

      While I have my typing hat on, if you are after the FIII strings,
      there is
      a sample CD out there called the Art of Sampling, which was created
      by JJ
      from the Art of Noise. Nearly all the material on this CD is from his
      2
      Failights (Series II and III) and the 'string section' track contains
      the
      stock Series III Cello's, Viola's and violin's. Personally, and it's
      only
      my opinion, whilst these are fantastic sounds, I don't think they
      would
      necessarily suit your track.

      For me it's because I found out it can do very warm stringy pads,
      almost
      like one I need. The PSP's "Very" album is a good demonstration of
      what JD
      can.

      > Sorry for the O/T questions guys!

      Me too!
      >
      > Cheers,
      > Peter
      >
      > -----Original Message-----
      > From: Marcin 'Rambo' Roguski [mailto:rambo@id.uw.edu.pl]
      > Sent: 11 August 2004 12:32
      > To: Fairlight-CMI@yahoogroups.com
      > Subject: Re: [Fairlight-CMI] CMI III on ebay
      >
      >
      > On Wed, 11 Aug 2004 12:29:44 +0100
      > "Peter Connelly \(Core Design Ltd.\)" <PeterC@Core-Design.com>
      wrote:
      >
      > >
      http://search.ebay.co.uk/Roland-JD_W0QQsorecordsperpageZ50QQsalocatedincountryZ-15QQfromZR6


      > >
      > > It take it you mean a Roland JD?
      >
      > Yes, and eBay was my first look, however- see one of my previous
      posts,
      > I can't really make use of eBay, because most folks want to use
      PayPal,
      > who don't want to make business for Poland. That JD-990 is pretty
      > interesting, though.
      >
      >
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