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Re: Annual meeting and the Group

Re: Annual meeting and the Group

2003-10-14 by pstnotpd

Also appreciating your efforts Colin, but I agree with Greg 
concerning Yahoo's policies. And Greg's page was the natural place to 
go before this group came up. There seems to be a lot more activity 
here. :-)

I think a poll would be a good idea.

Patrick

Annual meeting and the Group

2003-10-14 by Greg Holmes

Colin,

Two items:

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I would like to provide my support for your Annual Fairlight Meeting.
However, I am offering my location for those who cannot make the trip to
England! We could have simultaneous meetings here and in England, with
trans-Atlantic communication via phone and Internet throughout the day.

I am located in Canada near Niagara Falls, not far from the US-Canada
border. My house is 'in the country' on 5 acres of land. I have plenty
of room for guests (and parking), with many hotel and motel rooms
nearby at various price points (since this is a tourist area). I can
even put up several quests at my house, and arrange transportation to
and from nearby Buffalo or Toronto airports.

Of course, I will have my Series II there (which I have had for 20
years), with other machines possibly coming from Toronto.

The only dates that are not available for me are March 31 to April 4,
and a week each side of those dates. This is the time of the Frankfurt
Musikmesse, which I expect to be attending in my role as the BassLab
distributor for North America.

I hope that you will give this proposal some consideration, and I look
forward to your reply.

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I appreciate and admire the effort that you are putting into the
Fairlight community. The comment on my Message Board page about
"intrusive advertising and user-tracking at Yahoo Groups" was not
directed at your efforts, but at Yahoo Groups itself.

The e-mailed forum messages contain advertising, and, after looking into
it further, I found that Yahoo also inserts what they call "web beacons"
into the e-mails that are sent to members of your group. These beacons
are small "invisible" GIF images with parameters, so that Yahoo knows
who is reading the mail and when... Yahoo also tracks this information
to create an aggregate "profile" of each of your members that they claim
is for target advertising.

Personally, I am strongly against this sort of intrusion. That's one
reason why I have maintained an "arm's length" approach to my Fairlight
pages, both the Message Board and the Swap Shop.

What I propose is this: Why don't we work together and move your Yahoo
features over to my site, where there would be no commercial intrusions
or violations of privacy? You can still act as moderater and a kind of
"super-user" to create new surveys, databases, etc.

I am an experienced database and Web programmer, and can provide the
technical structure to support all of the features. Security is also a
given, since I do secure e-commerce sites also. We could even set up a
separate domain.

The features could be both private and public. For example, the
"Fairlight Owners Registry Database" could have both a "members-only"
view (with details) and a "public" view that lists only serial number,
date sold, and city/country. We could even start with the original
factory sales lists (from Peter Wielk and info that I can get a hold
of), and allow owners to search for their serial numbers, to build an
"ownership trail" for each instrument.

In summary, I think that Yahoo is not the appropriate platform for
delivery of these features. I hope that you and I can work together for
the benefit of the Fairlight community.

Thank you.

-- 
Greg Holmes
mailto:gregh@ghservices.com
GH Services, Ontario, Canada
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http://www.ghservices.com/
http://www.ghservices.com/gregh/fairligh/         (Fairlight CMI)


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Everyone read.

2003-10-14 by Colin Ross

I really want to answer this posting with respect to the person that posted
it.

Hi Patrick
To be quite honest I can't tell you one advert that comes up on Yahoo
because I don't look at them I just continue through it. Greg's page was the
natural page then and users can still go there now as I do on a regular
basis. There does not need to be a monopoly. The internet allows a public
domain for any interest on any site to anyone in the world. I am serving the
Fairlight community as best I can with passion and 100% commitment, at the
least cost to me until a internet homepage is ready (which is being work on
as we speak) Then you will see big big changes for the better FOR ALL OF THE
FAIRLIGHT COMMUNITY. If you think that the forum is great at the moment
(which it is) wait to you see the new homepage, WHICH IS TOTALLY DEDICATED
AND WILL PROGRESS EVEN MORE SO, TO ALL WHO HAVE FAIRLIGHT CLOSE TO THEIR
HEART..(this was and still is going to be launched by our Very Very Special
guess at the 2004 meeting ) I have a large number of things I want to share
with my fellow users or people with Fairlight interests and this web site
will cater for them. It's like something's in life that means so much to you
that it becomes a gold. Getting married, becoming a father, buying your
first car, owning your first house, or to some people it's getting through
the day. I think you know what I'm trying to say. Different things inspire
people differently. Our thing is that we love a sampling work station name
after a Hydrofoil maybe. 60 members have join the Fairlight CMI forum for
many different reasons but what brings us all together is that we support
and help one another. The software that does it, at this moment in time,
(YAHOO) is only the interface. It pop's up the odd advertisement and see
when you log on is not a problem to me. Now if it's an issue to someone else
I respect that and I would not ask someone to stay if this was concerning
them. I respect Greg's and also your views totally. I would also like to
state that you don't have to log on to the Egroups forum to see what's
posted as all posting go directly to your email address automatically.
I hope this gives you a insight of the future and direction and answer a few
questions.
Best and kind regards
Colin Ross


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Subject: [Fairlight-CMI] Re: Annual meeting and the Group


> Also appreciating your efforts Colin, but I agree with Greg
> concerning Yahoo's policies. And Greg's page was the natural place to
> go before this group came up. There seems to be a lot more activity
> here. :-)
>
> I think a poll would be a good idea.
>
> Patrick
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Re: Everyone read.

2003-10-15 by pstnotpd

No disrespect taken Colin ;-)

I'm eagerly awaiting your new homepage then. As stated, not a lot of 
action was going on on Greg's page, so that's why I was glad to see 
your initiative.

I'm planning to OCR scan the IIx manuals and redo the documentation. 
So if anyone is interested to help....

Cheers,
Patrick

> I really want to answer this posting with respect to the person 
that posted

Re: [Fairlight-CMI] Re: Everyone read.

2003-10-15 by Colin Ross

Hi Patrick
JB, Laurent and I are doing alot of scanning on different documentation at
the moment. More help the better. I use Acrobat Professional, on a Epson
5300, when scanning this does not make the page look like a photo or
discoloured.
What Rev is the IIx Manual?
Regards
Colin

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Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2003 8:07 AM
Subject: [Fairlight-CMI] Re: Everyone read.


> No disrespect taken Colin ;-)
>
> I'm eagerly awaiting your new homepage then. As stated, not a lot of
> action was going on on Greg's page, so that's why I was glad to see
> your initiative.
>
> I'm planning to OCR scan the IIx manuals and redo the documentation.
> So if anyone is interested to help....
>
> Cheers,
> Patrick
>
> > I really want to answer this posting with respect to the person
> that posted
>
>
>
>
> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
> Fairlight-CMI-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com
>
>
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
>
>

Re: [Fairlight-CMI] Re: Everyone read.

2003-10-15 by Greg Holmes

Patrick,

You're right about "not a lot of action" on my page!

A difficult work situation for the past few years has meant that I
didn't have the time or funds to put more into my pages. The best I
could do was add the (public) Message Board. I was also concerned about
security: I didn't want 'unscrupulous individuals' to discover the
physical locations of Fairlights. So I tried to avoid anything that
would lead to that.

I wanted to continue through the CMI pages (beyond Page 4) with screen
shots and summaries of functionality. Also, I created a system for
digitally transferring sounds from Series II to PC, but that project is
on hold, even though it worked very well in tests. I don't have the
resources to repair my CMI so I avoid turning it on, but those 8"
floppies won't last forever!

In any case, never mind all of that! What about the other part of my
message, excerpted here:

  I would like to provide my support for your Annual Fairlight
  Meeting. However, I am offering my location for those who
  cannot make the trip to England! We could have simultaneous
  meetings here and in England, with trans-Atlantic communication
  via phone and Internet throughout the day.

I think that it would be great to make this a global meet. Comments?



pstnotpd wrote:
> 
> No disrespect taken Colin ;-)
> 
> I'm eagerly awaiting your new homepage then. As stated, not a lot of
> action was going on on Greg's page, so that's why I was glad to see
> your initiative.
> 
> I'm planning to OCR scan the IIx manuals and redo the documentation.
> So if anyone is interested to help....
> 
> Cheers,
> Patrick



-- 
Greg Holmes
mailto:gregh@ghservices.com
GH Services, Ontario, Canada
--
http://www.ghservices.com/
http://www.ghservices.com/gregh/fairligh/         (Fairlight CMI)


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Hi Greg

2003-10-15 by Colin Ross

Hi Greg
I am going to answer your email concerning the USA meeting in the next email
which should be later tonight. There are allot of things I have to do to get
the London one on course. I will be making a announcement in the next email
which should get allot more people to attend.
WE NEED THE NUMBERS FOR THIS DAY TO WORK.
Speak to you soon
Colin


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Subject: Re: [Fairlight-CMI] Re: Everyone read.


> Patrick,
>
> You're right about "not a lot of action" on my page!
>
> A difficult work situation for the past few years has meant that I
> didn't have the time or funds to put more into my pages. The best I
> could do was add the (public) Message Board. I was also concerned about
> security: I didn't want 'unscrupulous individuals' to discover the
> physical locations of Fairlights. So I tried to avoid anything that
> would lead to that.
>
> I wanted to continue through the CMI pages (beyond Page 4) with screen
> shots and summaries of functionality. Also, I created a system for
> digitally transferring sounds from Series II to PC, but that project is
> on hold, even though it worked very well in tests. I don't have the
> resources to repair my CMI so I avoid turning it on, but those 8"
> floppies won't last forever!
>
> In any case, never mind all of that! What about the other part of my
> message, excerpted here:
>
>   I would like to provide my support for your Annual Fairlight
>   Meeting. However, I am offering my location for those who
>   cannot make the trip to England! We could have simultaneous
>   meetings here and in England, with trans-Atlantic communication
>   via phone and Internet throughout the day.
>
> I think that it would be great to make this a global meet. Comments?
>
>
>
> pstnotpd wrote:
> >
> > No disrespect taken Colin ;-)
> >
> > I'm eagerly awaiting your new homepage then. As stated, not a lot of
> > action was going on on Greg's page, so that's why I was glad to see
> > your initiative.
> >
> > I'm planning to OCR scan the IIx manuals and redo the documentation.
> > So if anyone is interested to help....
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Patrick
>
>
>
> -- 
> Greg Holmes
> mailto:gregh@ghservices.com
> GH Services, Ontario, Canada
> --
> http://www.ghservices.com/
> http://www.ghservices.com/gregh/fairligh/         (Fairlight CMI)
>
>
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