Fairlight-CMI

http://www.fairlightinstruments.com/

Let's start the speculations. :-)

I'm guessing that it's based on the CC-1 card. I hope that it will have the same features as the Series IIx and perhaps some extras.

David
http://dvdborn.blogspot.com

I'm not telling :) Keep speculating.

> http://www.fairlightinstruments.com/
>
> Let's start the speculations. :-)
>
> I'm guessing that it's based on the CC-1 card. I hope that it will have
> the same features as the Series IIx and perhaps some extras.
>
> David
> http://dvdborn.blogspot.com
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>

More News(http://www.sonicstate.com/news/2009/08/06/more-anniversary-fairlight-details/)

The 30A will look like and perform like the original CMI, although the
mainframe will be much lighter for portability. The look and feel of the
user interface will also be similar to the original, with retro green on
black graphics like the original. A replica of the original music keyboard
will also be available as an option, or you can use your own MIDI keyboard.

The software will combine the very best of the early series II and III
features, with a multitude of additional features. Sound quality of 8-bit,
16-bit, or "best quality" 36-bit floating point can be selected, and
existing Fairlight users can import their entire sample libraries. Even
better, non-Fairlight sounds, such as WAV files can be imported and
specified to play back with the classic Fairlight sound.

Internally it will be all digital, but will use FPGA technology to provide
"virtual hardware" emulation which will exactly model the original analog
circuitry.  There will be 16 analog outputs and a stereo sampling input.
All I/O will also be available digitally through MADI.

For an idea of the performance to expect, see attached description of the
Crystal Core engine which the new CMI use.

We are builing a run of only 100 units, which will be available early next
year.  Price is to finalised, it is not intended to be cost competitive with
other samplers, but of course much cheaper than the original CMI, even
adjusted for inflation!

Hi all,

I find this very interesting. I would like to know the cost of it.

Also, I would like to see some comparison of the sound with the original models.

Last, will it propose both the interface we had on the Series 2 & 3 ?

Will it support sequences from Page R and CAPS ?

I look forward to see one of these ...

Regards.

    Laurent.

I don't think that they will do all that R&D just to produce 100 Series 30A's and keep it at that.

I'm guessing that once they're sold out the new software instrument will be available to existing or future CC-1 card users.

Does anybody know how much a CC-1 card costs? Google didn't turn up any figure.

David
http://dvdborn.blogspot.com



--- In Fairlight-CMI@yahoogroups.com, "Michael" <michael.maeurer@...> wrote:

>
> More News(http://www.sonicstate.com/news/2009/08/06/more-anniversary-fairlight-details/)
> We are builing a run of only 100 units, which will be available early next
> year.

So, any ideas what the polyphony of this thing will be?  How about memory for sampling?

If they can meet the $5k price that was suggested earlier, include both IIx and series III functionality, and increase the polyphony I could be talked into one of these.  The 36 bit floating point sampling is intriguing.

I've been holding off on getting an old Fairlight because I'm tired of maintaining old, temperamental equipment.  A modern version could be just what I'm looking for.

Al


--- In Fairlight-CMI@yahoogroups.com, "dvdborn" <dvdborn@...> wrote:

>
> http://www.fairlightinstruments.com/
> 
> Let's start the speculations. :-)
> 
> I'm guessing that it's based on the CC-1 card. I hope that it will have the same features as the Series IIx and perhaps some extras.
> 
> David
> http://dvdborn.blogspot.com
>

meh, but it won't sound the same. We like these old temperamental beasts 
cause they have character.



splitpoint wrote:

>  
> 
>
> I've been holding off on getting an old Fairlight because I'm tired of 
> maintaining old, temperamental equipment. A modern version could be just 
> what I'm looking for.
> 
> Al
>

But the whole point Blixton, is that Peter is modelling this in the CC-1
FPGA card which is an immensely powerful card that can more than easily
recreate to the tiniest detail an old Fairlight.

 

Seriously, I don't think Peter would even entertain the idea if he couldn't
faithfully recreate the CMI in all it's glory and infinite character. So I
think we can all rest assured that it will sound the same. Of course, there
will be the anally retentive oscilloscope brigade who will analyze it's
output to the n'th degree so that they can jerk each other off claiming they
have found a flaw. F*ck 'em! ;o)

 

Rob.

From: Fairlight-CMI@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Fairlight-CMI@yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf Of blixton
Sent: 08 August 2009 18:50
To: Fairlight-CMI@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Fairlight-CMI] Re: Fairlight CMI 30A

 

  

meh, but it won't sound the same. We like these old temperamental beasts 
cause they have character.

splitpoint wrote:
> 
> 
>
> I've been holding off on getting an old Fairlight because I'm tired of 
> maintaining old, temperamental equipment. A modern version could be just 
> what I'm looking for.
> 
> Al
> 



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Is it going to be 12 bit?


\\Rob Puricelli wrote:

>  
> 
> But the whole point Blixton, is that Peter is modelling this in the CC-1 
> FPGA card which is an immensely powerful card that can more than easily 
> recreate to the tiniest detail an old Fairlight.
> 
>

Oops, I mean 8 bit.  The reason im into these samplers is cause of the 
way old Peter Gabriel records sound. I wish i had a more scientific 
reason but it is that simple

On Sat, 08 Aug 2009 13:39:51 -0500
blixton <blixton@aromabar.com> wrote:

> Is it going to be 12 bit?

Isn't internal bus of CC-1 128-bit?

On Sat, 08 Aug 2009 13:42:54 -0500
blixton <blixton@aromabar.com> wrote:

> Oops, I mean 8 bit.  The reason im into these samplers is cause of the 
> way old Peter Gabriel records sound. I wish i had a more scientific 
> reason but it is that simple

It's not about whether output is going to be 8, 16, 24 or even 32 bit.
It's about the dynamic range (i.e. the booming lows) of Fairlight, and 
using quality components available today it's quite possible to exceed 
it - I applaud Peter for taking a chance and resurrecting CMI (I've
been waiting 13 years for that) ;-).

But like Rob said, there ever gonna be purists and that believe that 
there's a liquid that improves CD playback quality... The truth is, if 
one didn't have CMI and listerned it thru separate outputs, will not 
know the difference even if its sample would be played by Mirage - 
when properly engineered... My 2c worh...

Rambo

-- 
I'm not prejudiced, I hate everyone equally.

The Fairlight CMI 30A will be based around the CC-1 FPGA card from the
current Fairlight company. It will be used to recreate the EXACT circuitry
of the original Fairlights within it's FPGA structure. It will be, in
Peter's own words, an exact virtual recreation of the CMI II & III. Whilst
the internals will be digital, the programming within the CC-1 will be
analogue models and therefore faithfully recreate the original circuitry of
the original machines.

 

Take a read of Peter's email to SonicState.com that exists in this thread or
can be read over at my blog..

 

http://failedmuso.blogspot.com/2009/08/more-news-on-fairlight-cmi-30a-limite
d.html

 

SonicState have been promised an interview with Peter Vogel in a couple of
weeks time, so I suggest you keep your eyes peeled on that site for the
latest info :o)

 

Rob.

From: Fairlight-CMI@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Fairlight-CMI@yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf Of Marcin 'Rambo' Roguski
Sent: 08 August 2009 19:58
To: Fairlight-CMI@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Fairlight-CMI] Re: Fairlight CMI 30A

 

  

On Sat, 08 Aug 2009 13:42:54 -0500
blixton <blixton@aromabar.com <mailto:blixton%40aromabar.com> > wrote:

> Oops, I mean 8 bit. The reason im into these samplers is cause of the 
> way old Peter Gabriel records sound. I wish i had a more scientific 
> reason but it is that simple

It's not about whether output is going to be 8, 16, 24 or even 32 bit.
It's about the dynamic range (i.e. the booming lows) of Fairlight, and 
using quality components available today it's quite possible to exceed 
it - I applaud Peter for taking a chance and resurrecting CMI (I've
been waiting 13 years for that) ;-).

But like Rob said, there ever gonna be purists and that believe that 
there's a liquid that improves CD playback quality... The truth is, if 
one didn't have CMI and listerned it thru separate outputs, will not 
know the difference even if its sample would be played by Mirage - 
when properly engineered... My 2c worh...

Rambo

-- 
I'm not prejudiced, I hate everyone equally.



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We're hoping to have some more detailed specs this week, however I can
answer a few questions in general terms.

 

The CC-1 can perform very complex algorithms and lots of them, with almost
no latency. So yes, we are modelling the quirky hardware of the CMI. The
sound of each CMI was subtly different, due to their analogue bits, so it
won't sound exactly like any one CMI, but lined up with a few CMIs you won't
be able to tell the difference.

 

The sound will be user selectable, to be like a series I,II,IIX, III etc. Or
you can dig deeper and make it sound like nothing else. 

 

One of the many nice things about the CC-1 is that it has no inherent bit
width. "Normal" processors generally offer say 32 or 64 bit operations,
where as the CC-1 can be configured to any number of bits. So if something
works most effectively as 33 bits, so be it.  And the bit widths can be
mixed within the one signal path. 

 

The "n" polyphony is achieved by "n" individual circuits set up in the FPGA
working in parallel, as opposed to the software emulation model which is
necessarily sequential. The channels can have different configurations is
required; in any case there will be subtle coefficient differences between
channels to reproduce the individuality of outputs that has often been
cited.

 

How much polyphony?  All we know at this time are the extremes - it will
certainly be at least 16 like the original Series III but given that the
Crystal Core when used in a DAW delivers up to 230 channels of mixing  ALL
of which have full processing (8 bands EQ, 3 stages Dynamics), you can
safely assume a lot more than 16 will be possible.

 

Re pricing: yet to be finalised, but the choice to go with the CC-1 does
come at a price. Although the CC-1 is not sold currently as a separate card
(it would be no use without the software etc that goes with it), the retail
price would be around the $5,000 mark.  So you can do the sums, the CMI 30-A
is not going to be price competitive with the mass-market synths which
abound.

 

Peter

From: Fairlight-CMI@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Fairlight-CMI@yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf Of Rob Puricelli
Sent: Sunday, 9 August 2009 6:22 AM
To: Fairlight-CMI@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Fairlight-CMI] Re: Fairlight CMI 30A

 

  

The Fairlight CMI 30A will be based around the CC-1 FPGA card from the
current Fairlight company. It will be used to recreate the EXACT circuitry
of the original Fairlights within it's FPGA structure. It will be, in
Peter's own words, an exact virtual recreation of the CMI II & III. Whilst
the internals will be digital, the programming within the CC-1 will be
analogue models and therefore faithfully recreate the original circuitry of
the original machines.

 

Take a read of Peter's email to SonicState.com that exists in this thread or
can be read over at my blog..

 

http://failedmuso.blogspot.com/2009/08/more-news-on-fairlight-cmi-30a-limite
d.html

 

SonicState have been promised an interview with Peter Vogel in a couple of
weeks time, so I suggest you keep your eyes peeled on that site for the
latest info :o)

 

Rob.

 

From: Fairlight-CMI@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Fairlight-CMI@yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf Of Marcin 'Rambo' Roguski
Sent: 08 August 2009 19:58
To: Fairlight-CMI@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Fairlight-CMI] Re: Fairlight CMI 30A

 

  

On Sat, 08 Aug 2009 13:42:54 -0500
blixton <blixton@aromabar.com <mailto:blixton%40aromabar.com> > wrote:

> Oops, I mean 8 bit. The reason im into these samplers is cause of the 
> way old Peter Gabriel records sound. I wish i had a more scientific 
> reason but it is that simple

It's not about whether output is going to be 8, 16, 24 or even 32 bit.
It's about the dynamic range (i.e. the booming lows) of Fairlight, and 
using quality components available today it's quite possible to exceed 
it - I applaud Peter for taking a chance and resurrecting CMI (I've
been waiting 13 years for that) ;-).

But like Rob said, there ever gonna be purists and that believe that 
there's a liquid that improves CD playback quality... The truth is, if 
one didn't have CMI and listerned it thru separate outputs, will not 
know the difference even if its sample would be played by Mirage - 
when properly engineered... My 2c worh...

Rambo

-- 
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--- In Fairlight-CMI@yahoogroups.com, "Michael" <michael.maeurer@...> wrote:
>
> More News(http://www.sonicstate.com/news/2009/08/06/more-anniversary-fairlight-details/)
> 
> The 30A will look like and perform like the original CMI, although the
> mainframe will be much lighter for portability. The look and feel of the
> user interface will also be similar to the original, with retro green on
> black graphics like the original. A replica of the original music keyboard
> will also be available as an option, or you can use your own MIDI keyboard.
> 
> The software will combine the very best of the early series II and III
> features, with a multitude of additional features. Sound quality of 8-bit,
> 16-bit, or "best quality" 36-bit floating point can be selected, and
> existing Fairlight users can import their entire sample libraries. Even
> better, non-Fairlight sounds, such as WAV files can be imported and
> specified to play back with the classic Fairlight sound.
> 
> Internally it will be all digital, but will use FPGA technology to provide
> "virtual hardware" emulation which will exactly model the original analog
> circuitry.  There will be 16 analog outputs and a stereo sampling input.
> All I/O will also be available digitally through MADI.
> 
> For an idea of the performance to expect, see attached description of the
> Crystal Core engine which the new CMI use.
> 
> We are builing a run of only 100 units, which will be available early next
> year.  Price is to finalised, it is not intended to be cost competitive with
> other samplers, but of course much cheaper than the original CMI, even
> adjusted for inflation!
>

Well as yet there's been no mention of the monitor and light pen apart from the mock up photo. Are we to assume this will be a full blown emulation with the ability to re-synthesize with the pen (it never really worked with the series 3 anyway) and how about making the resonant filters self oscillate, this was always a major flaw for me in terms of reworking base material, also more powerful envelope generators and maybe additional re-synthesis functions such as ring modulation. This would be a great opportunity to create a 'next generation' CMI and if we just get a remodeled series 2/3 it would seem a bit pointless. Anyway, if this turns out to be a 'series 4' effectively with new functionality I'll be buying one for sure.

> (it would be no use without the software etc that goes with it),

Speaking of that, so what would be software platform (i.e. OS) for it?
I hope it's not going to show Windows logo when booting (tsk, tsk)

> the CMI 30-A is not going to be price competitive with the
> mass-market synths which abound.

But it's going to be price competitive with a fully blown Series III,
right? ;-)

Rambo

-- 
Real programmers can write assembly code in any language.   :-)
             -- Larry Wall in  <8571@jpl-devvax.JPL.NASA.GOV>

An FPGA card like the CC-1 is all-digital, so it will be challenging and time-consuming (although not impossible) to model the imperfections in the analog circuitry of the Fairlight II/III.

I would prefer to see the 30th Anniversary system as a standard PC with CC-1 card and SX-20 output box attached. There is no need to waste money and time creating a case that resembles the old Fairlight units. Same goes for the music keyboard. It's not like it was an ergonomic masterpiece in the first place. <grin>

> There is no need to waste money and time creating a case that 
> resembles the old Fairlight units. Same goes for the music
> keyboard.

Get out of here! LOL, j/k ;-)

Seriously though, I'd love to see racked CMI, not the way MFX2
was done but the case looking like the original (ivory/white, 
black frame), scalled appropiately.

Rambo

-- 
<Epsilon3> Knghtbrd, if we wanted a lameass remark we would have said:
           Hey, neckro

Wouldn't this be the perfect time to implement the full 80 channels of CAPS.
Why stop at 16 channels if you have so much horsepower?

Regards,

David Crocombe.

> 
> Well as yet there's been no mention of the monitor and light pen apart from the mock up photo. Are we to assume this will be a full blown emulation with the ability to re-synthesize with the pen (it never really worked with the series 3 anyway) and how about making the resonant filters self oscillate, this was always a major flaw for me in terms of reworking base material, also more powerful envelope generators and maybe additional re-synthesis functions such as ring modulation. This would be a great opportunity to create a 'next generation' CMI and if we just get a remodeled series 2/3 it would seem a bit pointless. Anyway, if this turns out to be a 'series 4' effectively with new functionality I'll be buying one for sure.
>

As long as it costs over 100k Im happy.

Does anyone have any Fairlight III 4 gig formated HD's that they would like to sell?

I have a series III version 9.34. I need to copy some sounds from mfx to my series III but need extra hard drives for my series III to do the copy to.

So, August 12th has passed no change on the web page.  

Anyone hear any updates?

You know what would be really, really cool, is bring back that cv/gate 
card but have it actually work.

At 12:13 Uhr +1000 14.08.2009, Peter Vogel wrote:
>Done. I'll just go put on my hardhat.
>
>http://www.fairlightinstruments.com.au

Great !

As a (so far...) non professional musician (but IIx owner) I was 
seriously thinking over the idea of ordering one following the last 
mail from Sunday in which it wrote:

At 12:55 Uhr +1000 09.08.2009, Peter Vogel wrote:
>Re pricing: yet to be finalised, but the choice to go with the CC-1 
>does come at a price. Although the CC-1 is not sold currently as a 
>separate card (it would be no use without the software etc that goes 
>with it), the retail price would be around the $5,000 mark.  So you 
>can do the sums, the CMI 30-A is not going to be price competitive 
>with the mass-market synths which abound.

Unfortunately it now reads on the new website:

>Pricing
>
>The projected price is approximately US$17,000 and the additional 
>music keyboard option US$2,000. This includes delivery worldwide 
>(but not taxes if applicable).

Or did I get something wrong ? The 5K are the retail price for just 
the CC-1 card ?

Anyway, I am sure it will be a great product !

Cheers

Roland

--- In Fairlight-CMI@yahoogroups.com, Roland <kinematic2002@...> wrote:
>
> At 12:13 Uhr +1000 14.08.2009, Peter Vogel wrote:
> >Done. I'll just go put on my hardhat.
> >
> >http://www.fairlightinstruments.com.au
> 
> Great !
> 
> As a (so far...) non professional musician (but IIx owner) I was 
> seriously thinking over the idea of ordering one following the last 
> mail from Sunday in which it wrote:
> 
> At 12:55 Uhr +1000 09.08.2009, Peter Vogel wrote:
> >Re pricing: yet to be finalised, but the choice to go with the CC-1 
> >does come at a price. Although the CC-1 is not sold currently as a 
> >separate card (it would be no use without the software etc that goes 
> >with it), the retail price would be around the $5,000 mark.  So you 
> >can do the sums, the CMI 30-A is not going to be price competitive 
> >with the mass-market synths which abound.
> 
> Unfortunately it now reads on the new website:
> 
> >Pricing
> >
> >The projected price is approximately US$17,000 and the additional 
> >music keyboard option US$2,000. This includes delivery worldwide 
> >(but not taxes if applicable).
> 
> Or did I get something wrong ? The 5K are the retail price for just 
> the CC-1 card ?
> 
> Anyway, I am sure it will be a great product !
> 
> Cheers
> 
> Roland

Yeah right $19K including music keyboard. What happened to this system being price comparitive to modern synth workstations? Don't get me wrong, I'm a realist and I'm very interested in what this might turn into, but I'm not about to throw $19K at something we haven't even heard yet. Anyway, the price is in dollars, I take it were talking about Australian dollars? Heres the conversion

19,000.00 Australian dollars = 9,536.95 British pounds sterling.

OK so under 10 grand. I could just about justify that if it sounds good and I don't get wellied on Import tax..(meanwhile back in the real world..) Good work though guys, my studio's a much unhappier place without a CMI.

A $19,000 sampler would be the ultimate poseur's instrument. Sadly, I can't see more than a handful being sold. After all, twenty grand (once shipping is factored in) is enough to buy gobs of brilliant hardware and software in today's market.

I can't see this being a success, especially since it's priced out of range of the machine's biggest fans.

--- In Fairlight-CMI@yahoogroups.com, "jbgrahame" <jbgrahame@...> wrote:
>
> A $19,000 sampler would be the ultimate poseur's instrument. Sadly, I can't see more than a handful being sold. After all, twenty grand (once shipping is factored in) is enough to buy gobs of brilliant hardware and software in today's market.
> 
> I can't see this being a success, especially since it's priced out of range of the machine's biggest fans.

Well I guess the bottom line is Fairlight users tend to be a dedicated lot. I'm definitely thinking of getting one, mainly because I'm bored to death of lifeless, characterless plug ins and control surfaces. My current rig is an all singing all dancing 192Khz monster but it doesn't inspire to do sod all. Without doubt I did all my best stuff on my Series 3 (the people who bought my records thought so as well!) When this $5000 dollar price tag was knocking about initially, I just laughed, knowing full well it could never be done properly at that kind of price. So at $19,000(delivery is included in the price apparently) it seems more realistic. However you've got to look at import tax (depending where you are of course)That's gonna be a deal maker or breaker. The commitment is on the part of the end user here to invest big bucks in the hope that this system sounds anywhere near as good as its predecessors without so much as a demo. In terms of sales, I would imagine there would be several major artists who would already have their money out (I would figure with the right PR you could shift roughly 25 units to major artists immediately) Anyway, I've already run it past the missus and she's cool, so for me, it might be a goer...

Interesting.  

Count me out at $20k but I hope they sell all of them so that there can be a series IV.  

If there is a series IV I would hope that it would just be a card with software that I could plugin to the PC of my choice. The one feature that I would really like to see is an integrated searchable database for samples.  That's the one feature that I love about my Waveframe rig and the main reason that I still use it.  The load requester allows me to search on a number of fields (name, category, comments, etc) then see a list of results and load the one that I want with a single click and never have to leave the main sampler interface.  There are some separate software cataloging solutions around but they have a clunky interface and aren't integrated into the sampling software.  This is a key feature for me and I would take a serious look at any hardware or software vendor that can implement it correctly.
 
I wish Peter luck with the 30a and I'm looking forward to future developments.

This is a question specifically for Peter Vogel, presumably, but I thought 
I'd ask it here rather than directly as it has general relevance.

Now the Fairlight is about to become available again as a new instrument, 
does this affect copyright on Fairlight samples in any way?

For example, I used the Fairlight dog sample in one of my compositions a 
while ago, and made it generally known that I'd done it in case there were 
any problems with it.  That track is available on my website for free.

If I or anyone else were to use a sample from the Fairlight library now, 
whether in a freely available piece of music or in a piece for sale, would 
that now be an infringement of copyright now that Fairlight is trading 
again?  And is there any problem, retrospectively, with pieces like mine 
with the dog sample?  Or can we use Fairlight library samples without 
infringing anyone's rights?

As interesting as this thing looks, I have to wonder what kind of 
support would be in place should one make the purchase? I mean, if 
something breaks on it? Where on earth would you get it serviced? I 
already find myself saying a little prayer every time I turn on my IIx 
(which I've nicknamed "Klaus"). I can't imagine dropping this kind of 
coin on something unless I was rock-solid certain of support from the 
company/person who made it.

Blue

A good point. The 30A will use3 standard Fairlight components, the same as
used in the Fairlight range of pro audio products (see www.fairlightau.com)
so support will be available from them and their worldwide distributors as
well as Fairlight Instruments.

 

Also note that Peter Wielk, who has been keeping CMIs alive these last 30
years, has now joined Fairlight Instruments, and brings with him unrivalled
knowledge and experience of what can and does go wrong over a very long
timeframe..

 

Cheers,

 

Peter

From: Fairlight-CMI@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Fairlight-CMI@yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf Of Blue 17
Sent: Saturday, 15 August 2009 12:26 PM
To: Fairlight-CMI@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Fairlight-CMI] Fairlight CMI 30A

 

  

As interesting as this thing looks, I have to wonder what kind of 
support would be in place should one make the purchase? I mean, if 
something breaks on it? Where on earth would you get it serviced? I 
already find myself saying a little prayer every time I turn on my IIx 
(which I've nicknamed "Klaus"). I can't imagine dropping this kind of 
coin on something unless I was rock-solid certain of support from the 
company/person who made it.

Blue

On Sat, 2009-08-15 at 14:23 +1000, Peter Vogel wrote:


> Also note that Peter Wielk, who has been keeping CMIs alive these last
> 30 years, has now joined Fairlight Instruments, and brings with him
> unrivalled knowledge and experience of what can and does go wrong over
> a very long timeframe..

Are there any particular custom parts in the original Fairlights?  I'd
be far more interested in building a replica of an old one ;-)

Gordon 2M0YEQ

Nothing custom as such, but plenty which are now obsolete and would be very
difficult to get.  A huge undertaking in any case!

From: Fairlight-CMI@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Fairlight-CMI@yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf Of Gordon JC Pearce
Sent: Saturday, 15 August 2009 6:46 PM
To: Fairlight-CMI@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Fairlight-CMI] Fairlight CMI 30A

 

  

On Sat, 2009-08-15 at 14:23 +1000, Peter Vogel wrote:

> Also note that Peter Wielk, who has been keeping CMIs alive these last
> 30 years, has now joined Fairlight Instruments, and brings with him
> unrivalled knowledge and experience of what can and does go wrong over
> a very long timeframe..

Are there any particular custom parts in the original Fairlights? I'd
be far more interested in building a replica of an old one ;-)

Gordon 2M0YEQ

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Hi All,

I think the 30A is a great idea and hope it will reach the market.

 From my point of view, it would be interesting to know if the artists  
who made the Fairlight success (and signed the CMI keyboard) would be  
interested by the 30A project. Some of them are still in the msic  
industry and can easily invest in this project.

I don't know if Peter Gabriel or Hans Zimmer are still using their  
Fairlight ?  But if it's the case, I'm sure they would be interested  
by a modern version with full support...

I wish good luck to Peter for this project even if I won't be able to  
buy one of these. That's life.  :-)

Regards.

      Laurent.

Hey folks,

Peter Vogel's site at http://www.fairlightinstruments.com/ clearly states:

"The projected price is approximately US$17,000 and the additional music 
keyboard option US$2,000. This includes delivery worldwide (but not 
taxes if applicable)."

That's UNITED STATES DOLLARS.

Peter's site also clearly indicates:

"Fairlight.au has been contracted to supply key technology, including 
its groundbreaking Crystal Core media processor and develop the 
specialist audio software required."

And it mentions that delivery is scheduled for the first quarter of 
2010. This is an aggressive release date, considering the programming 
required and hardware (chassis) design and fabrication.

As to whether the CMI-30A is priced "fairly", consider that the gross 
revenue from 100 units is only US$1,700,000. That is not much once you 
subtract the cost of the CC-1 cards, other circuit boards, contracted 
development fees, case fabrication, documentation, shipping, and on and 
on...



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