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Formatting a second hard drive (Series III)

Formatting a second hard drive (Series III)

2004-06-03 by Chris Haworth

Has anyone had experience with formatting a second HD for their Series III?

I have 2 IBM SCSI hard drives, one 4MB and one 2MB, yet when I run
scsiformat, the app bombs with a write error before the process starts. The
disks themselves are fine as I have just pulled them out of my PC to use in
the Fairlight and the cable that I am using checks out OK. I have also
properly terminated the SCSI chain and have plugged the cable in the right
way round (i.e. pin 1 one the cable matches pin 1 on the drive). I have
also tried the process both internally, using the space scsi connector on
the cable from the waveform super and externally using a drive bay.

For info, I am using Rev 9.34 and version 3.07 of scsiformat with the
command: scsiformat /SC20 -b=256

I have also tried without explicitly specifying the blocksize but this
doesn't work either. Are there any of the other switch options that need to
be set for this to work correctly?

The 4GB HD is an IBM DDRS-34560  S97BRDG81325 with 8491 Cylnders, and 5
heads, 0 spares/zone and an interleave of 1; similar in spec to the Fujitsu
drive that is my system disk. The 2GB is similar although the Cylnder and
head figures are smaller reflecting the smaller capacity of the disk.

Has anyone else had an similar issues with this type of drive or with
scsiformat?

Whilst I am on the topic I notice that I dont have the diskpart application
on my machine. Does anyone know if cmipart performs the same job?

Thanks,
Chris.
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Re: Formatting a second hard drive (Series III)

2004-06-03 by David J. Wilson

Hi Chris,

yes, I've formatted 4 external 4GB Seagate Barracuda ST-15150N
SCSI-2 hard drives on my Series III Rev 9.34.   I used the diskpart
command from OS 11.39 because I'm told that it's the best
formatting software rev for 4GB drives.  I booted my CMI
with an OS 11.39 floppy and used the 11.39 diskpart 
command to setup the drives:

diskpart /scx0 -h -s=4000

the value of x is the SCSI ID of the new drive. 

This does a hard format and limits the drive to 4GB and it
installs 8 software partitions.  You do this from the shell,
not from within the CMI software.  You need to exit from CMI,
not just shell out.

Each hard format takes about 15-20 minutes to complete
on a 4GB drive.

I installed all of these four 4GB drives in an external SCSI
4-bay drive case (SUN Microsystems white case, looks cool).
This is in conjunction with my internal IBM 4GB SCSI drive in
the CMI chassis.

I think you need the diskpart command, it should be there
on your boot drive (at least the rev 9.34 version should be)

hope this helps,

David



--- In Fairlight-CMI@yahoogroups.com, Chris Haworth 
<christopher.haworth@u...> wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Has anyone had experience with formatting a second HD for their 
Series III?
> 
> I have 2 IBM SCSI hard drives, one 4MB and one 2MB, yet when I run
> scsiformat, the app bombs with a write error before the process 
starts. The
> disks themselves are fine as I have just pulled them out of my PC 
to use in
> the Fairlight and the cable that I am using checks out OK. I have 
also
> properly terminated the SCSI chain and have plugged the cable in 
the right
> way round (i.e. pin 1 one the cable matches pin 1 on the drive). I 
have
> also tried the process both internally, using the space scsi 
connector on
> the cable from the waveform super and externally using a drive bay.
> 
> For info, I am using Rev 9.34 and version 3.07 of scsiformat with 
the
> command: scsiformat /SC20 -b=256
> 
> I have also tried without explicitly specifying the blocksize but 
this
> doesn't work either. Are there any of the other switch options 
that need to
> be set for this to work correctly?
> 
> The 4GB HD is an IBM DDRS-34560  S97BRDG81325 with 8491 Cylnders, 
and 5
> heads, 0 spares/zone and an interleave of 1; similar in spec to 
the Fujitsu
> drive that is my system disk. The 2GB is similar although the 
Cylnder and
> head figures are smaller reflecting the smaller capacity of the 
disk.
> 
> Has anyone else had an similar issues with this type of drive or 
with
> scsiformat?
> 
> Whilst I am on the topic I notice that I dont have the diskpart 
application
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> on my machine. Does anyone know if cmipart performs the same job?
> 
> Thanks,
> Chris.
> _____________________________

Re: [Fairlight-CMI] Re: Formatting a second hard drive (Series III)

2004-06-04 by Chris Haworth

David - Thanks for your response.

Unfortunately I definitely don't have diskpart routine on my system disk; I
have checked all partitions but all I have is cmipart. However, given that
the 11.39 routine is superior, do you (or anyone else for that matter) know
where I can either get a copy of the 11.39 system disk, or a copy of the
11.39 diskpart routine?

I find it interesting that you only needed to use diskpart to format and
partition the drives, in that you did not have to use scsiformat first. My
understanding was that you needed to format the SCSI drives using
scsiformat and then divide the space up using diskpart. With reference to
your point regarding the execution environment, I ran all the commands from
the OS9 shell, not from within CMI.

I tried formatting the drives again last night, however the problems
persist. I put the drives back in my PC and low level formatted them here
and verified the disks (everything checked out fine), however when trying
again in the CMI, this had not helped, so if anyone can help me out, it
would be most appreciated.

(BTW I live in London and will be attending the event on 27-06)

Thanks,
Chris.
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Hi Chris,

yes, I've formatted 4 external 4GB Seagate Barracuda ST-15150N
SCSI-2 hard drives on my Series III Rev 9.34.   I used the diskpart
command from OS 11.39 because I'm told that it's the best
formatting software rev for 4GB drives.  I booted my CMI
with an OS 11.39 floppy and used the 11.39 diskpart
command to setup the drives:

diskpart /scx0 -h -s=4000

the value of x is the SCSI ID of the new drive.

This does a hard format and limits the drive to 4GB and it
installs 8 software partitions.  You do this from the shell,
not from within the CMI software.  You need to exit from CMI,
not just shell out.

Each hard format takes about 15-20 minutes to complete
on a 4GB drive.

I installed all of these four 4GB drives in an external SCSI
4-bay drive case (SUN Microsystems white case, looks cool).
This is in conjunction with my internal IBM 4GB SCSI drive in
the CMI chassis.

I think you need the diskpart command, it should be there
on your boot drive (at least the rev 9.34 version should be)

hope this helps,

David



--- In Fairlight-CMI@yahoogroups.com, Chris Haworth
<christopher.haworth@u...> wrote:
>
>
>
>
> Has anyone had experience with formatting a second HD for their
Series III?
>
> I have 2 IBM SCSI hard drives, one 4MB and one 2MB, yet when I run
> scsiformat, the app bombs with a write error before the process
starts. The
> disks themselves are fine as I have just pulled them out of my PC
to use in
> the Fairlight and the cable that I am using checks out OK. I have
also
> properly terminated the SCSI chain and have plugged the cable in
the right
> way round (i.e. pin 1 one the cable matches pin 1 on the drive). I
have
> also tried the process both internally, using the space scsi
connector on
> the cable from the waveform super and externally using a drive bay.
>
> For info, I am using Rev 9.34 and version 3.07 of scsiformat with
the
> command: scsiformat /SC20 -b=256
>
> I have also tried without explicitly specifying the blocksize but
this
> doesn't work either. Are there any of the other switch options
that need to
> be set for this to work correctly?
>
> The 4GB HD is an IBM DDRS-34560  S97BRDG81325 with 8491 Cylnders,
and 5
> heads, 0 spares/zone and an interleave of 1; similar in spec to
the Fujitsu
> drive that is my system disk. The 2GB is similar although the
Cylnder and
> head figures are smaller reflecting the smaller capacity of the
disk.
>
> Has anyone else had an similar issues with this type of drive or
with
> scsiformat?
>
> Whilst I am on the topic I notice that I dont have the diskpart
application
> on my machine. Does anyone know if cmipart performs the same job?
>
> Thanks,
> Chris.
> _____________________________

                                                                            
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