Homebrew PCBs

Again, apologies to the group. As I said some guys just don't get it.
He's not replying in the other groups because they've soundly let him 
know his comments to and about me are unwelcome...

Chris,

Thank you for finally sharing why you continually attack me.

Let's get one thing clear here. I'm NOT "taking orders". I'm NOT 
asking for money to buy something sight unseen. I've NOT asked to 
have money sent for this or any of the other products you've 
mentioned.  

I HAVE asked folks if they "would" send money IF such a product WERE 
made available. That's called customer qualifying, market survey, 
product qualification, etc. 

I have made that VERY clear whenever I've posted. Again, perhaps you 
sdhould read before spouting off in these groups...

WHEN I decide to OFFER a product for sale, I will THEN make such 
requests. Actually somoen else will make the requests; apparently you 
don't understand how a product DESIGNER works. Ever heard of an NDA?

You mention other items, some of which were discussed before you ever 
knew about DIY-CNC. And reasons for not moving forward on some 
explained YEARS ago... For instance re: the book you mentioned, which 
has not been discussed since you "discovered" this segment of CNC... 
I TOLD the groups that I DECIDED selling a comprehensive book on DIY-
CNC was not worth the money I would receive. My ROI would be poor. I 
have since used that info in other ways and profited from it. John 
K's sales of plans showed me that a better return could be made 
another way. It was a good decision; one that was mine to make.   

BTW, the fact that YOU--or even a certain group of people--have not 
seen something does NOT mean it doesn't exist... 

Since you've said the "problem" is my "taking orders", and "asking 
for money" "all the time", and since that is NOT the case...

It is nice to know that you won't be "concern"-ing "myself too much 
with him" anymore. Please keep your word.

So what will you do when the evidence appears? I'll expect an apology.

If you can find a place where I've asked for money to be sent, or 
said I was "taking orders"; then I'll owe YOU an apology.

Ballendo

P.S. I'm really curious how it is you think you know that "no one has 
ever seen any of these things"? Pretty arrogant, IMO.

P.P.S. This PCB mill is not a "new" product, it is an old one which 
was shwelved for lack of capital, and which now MAY come to market IF 
the demand is there to meet the minimum profit threshold. That is 
based on the method and costs of manufacturing.; i.e. economy of 
scale. 
That was explained--as well as the reason FOR the delay-- in the 
recent post I made to this group. Go ahead and READ what I've 
written; instead of just throwing your opinion around. 

P.P.P.S. there are TWO different versions of the 5 axis head; one 
uses the satellite drives which are/were available surplus; the other 
is a fresh design rather than a retrofit. Be nice if you could get 
your facts straight. 

 
--- In Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com, "lcdpublishing" 
<lcdpublishing@y...> wrote:
>
> I don't know who you are asking, but I will offer my answer 
> here.  'B' has a habit announcing a "new product" every 2~3 
months.  
> Like this thread, he asks people to buy it, which is cool so far.
> 
> However, he has never been able to bring a product to market that 
> anyone, in any of these groups has ever seen.
> 
> In the other groups, rather than trying to sell a machine he is 
> looking for investors so that he can build the machines 
(presumably).
> 
> In this group, he is "taking orders" for a machine the no one has 
> ever seen.  Ask him for a photograph of it, you won't see one.
> 
> During the last year or so, I have seen him offer for sale (next 
> week or in two weeks) the following items...
> 
> CNC Routers
> 5 Axis bolt on head to convert cnc routers to 5 axis
> Book that he has writtn on CNC
> PCB milling/drilling machine
> 
> and I am sure there are a few other items too, i just can't keep 
> track of it all.
> 
> So, why do I continually confront this guy, well, if he wasn't 
> asking for people's money all the time I probably wouldn't concern 
> myself too much with him. Without ever presenting any evidence of 
> having an actual "product" to sell, the only assumption I can make 
> is that something is not right - what it is I don't know.  If 
anyone 
> wants to send him $500.00 to buy this machine that he won't even 
> take the time to show you a picture of, that's okay too.
> 
> Chris
>