True altium designer is the next generation sort of like Horse and Buggy transformeation to the Car... the Omish still do use the horse and buggy... Protel the software package is history just like PCAD (also owned by altium) I had decided not to buy Altuim Designer and go forward in the market bcause the pcb design market is being heavily outsourced to china, indonesia, malaysia etc.. After "Slaving" in the business for too many years.. I have decided it's a loosing proposition to compete against $15~25 per hour including overhead for oversease Design services. Part of the reason for the low cost is PCB designer making $8 ~ 25 a "DAY" depending on country... the USA rate $75 ~ $150 per hour for services (PCB designer, depreciated software Cost, Anual maintenance, and Overhead is no longer ompetitive.. so to compete... I evaluated the P/L and am now considering changing to "Techincal interfcae/SALES" for USA companies that need the service to change and use those "LOW WAGE" Design Houses.. therby reducing the USA employment oportunities and the general wages in the USA for that mid level market... I have come to the conclusion. It's more Lucrative and fewer ULSERS in sales nowdays than actualy doing the work. Just look at the "ADVERTISING and SALES" budget versus "ENGINEERING" budget in most modern USA companies... Also look at the number of Millionares from sales/Marketing versus Engineering.... after being layed off.. Have you learned the next USA Engineers job technical phrase... WOULD YOU LIKE TO SUPER SIZE IT ??? BoonS --- In Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com, Steve Wiseman <sjwiseman@...> wrote: > > 2009/2/6 boons007 <boons007@...>: > > > I in the past when it was a good buisness had a PCB design service , > > used, Zuken, Mentor, Cadence, PCAD, ORCAD, PADS, Protel... > > I liked protel the best... of the middle end but they are basicaly > > history... Many are now dust or combined.. > > Huh? If you're saying Protel is history, that's far from the case. > They've renamed to Altium (for some reason, when they added a bunch of > FPGA and software tools, they changed the name). > Their Schematic and PCB tools are really rather good. > www.altium.com/products/altiumdesigner/ > > (No connection, just a user) > > Steve > > Steve >
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Re: Which PCB CAD for someone entering the job market?
2009-02-18 by boons007
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