Like you, I often don't have a ground plane. I've found that 'direct etch' works well only with 1/2 oz copper. With 1 oz copper you are looking at 8 to 10 minutes of rubbing to clear an index card sized board on one side. That's still bit faster than an agitated bath, but its also a whole lot more work. I'd rather throw the board in a bath, leave and come back in 10 minutes than stand there and rub continuously for 10 minutes. Regards, Royce --- In Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com, "jimofc300" <jim@...> wrote: > > > Hi, > > In my PCB adventures, I finally got a good transfer. I should have > followed my own rule: "Follow the manufacturer's directions until you > really know what you're doing, and probably after that, too." I > deviated, though. To help someone in a similar level of novicehood, I > detail what didn't work. I then have a question or two. > > First, I used Pulsar Toner Transfer Paper, printed on my HP P1005. I ran > it through the GBC H-64 laminator twice, per Pulsar's recommendation. In > the water bath to lift off the TTP paper, the traces floated away, too. > I was told here that I didn't use enough laminator passes. All > subsequent trials used 8-10 passes. This trial went off to the Acetone > bath. (About the only thing that worked perfectly for me.) > > Next, still with TTP, I followed a recommendation here to just place the > Green TRF foil on the board and smooth it out rather than folding over > the end of the board. That was a disaster! The Green TRF foil wrapped > itself around the top roller on the very first pass. Don't try this at > home. kids! Oh, well. It's not the first time I've had to diassemble new > equipment to fix it. Back to the acetone bath. > > Then I had the hair-brained idea of using HP Presentation Paper instead > of Pulsar TTP. Maybe others succeeded with it, but I wound up with a > white film on top of the toner which wouldn't come off with rubbing or > water. Apparently, some of the paper fibers stuck to the toner image. > Acetone bath again! First question: I now have all this surplus HP > Presentation Paper. Will it work as good, light photo or brochure paper > on an inkjet printer? Are there any other uses for the HP paper? (I > don't have a color laser.) > > Finally, I used Pulsar TTP with Green TRF, following Pulsar's directions > except for 8-10 passes through the laminator plus two passes for the > Green TRF. It worked! There are a couple spots that the Green TRF > missed; I'll try a Sharpie on them before etching. > > I intend to try Pulsar's recommended "Direct Etch" method for etching. > Basically, it entails putting Ferric Chloride on a sponge and rubbing > off the copper as if cleaning a tabletop. No etching tank! > > Questions to hopefully avoid more errors: Has anyone tried the Direct > Etch method? Does it work? Any hints? This, my first board, has no > ground plane and will need a lot of copper removed. Any hints on that? > The second board I have in mind does have a ground plane, leading to > minimal copper removal. Can anyone comment on which board style (minimum > copper or maximum copper) is likely to give better results? Any > difference in technique? > > Thanks, > > Jim >
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Re: Finally! A good toner transfer. On to etch.
2010-02-15 by roycepipkins
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