I suppose it's a matter of preference- you can't tell my soldering from paste and I do not stress the parts using a chisel tip and quick soldering- though it could be a thermal shock in cold climates. I see a "mini-hoof" is what I call a chisel tip. You definitely do not want to try SMD soldering with a pointed and narrow tip- may be this is why so many have troubles and go to the extra effort of ovens, etc? Seldom need to use hoof tips. I have always liked the way parts float into place with paste- but my homebrew boards were never quite good enough to trust 100% for that. I'm glad yours are. On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 7:55 AM, Stefan Trethan <stefan_trethan@...>wrote: > > > I find I'm just much faster with paste. It does not require a tool > change for each component like hand soldering where I need to switch > between holding components in place and feeding solder. > > Using paste it is more like an assembly line, first dispense all > paste, then place all parts, then solder all at once. I get very > efficient doing the same thing in a row. > > I can set up hand soldering to be more efficient, for example by > tinning all first pins before starting to place any components, > then only placing parts reflowing that first pin, and as a last step > soldering all the other pins. But I'm still slower than using paste. > > I'm prepared to race anyone wielding an iron ;-) > > There are more minor reasons for me to use paste: > Positioning doesn't need to be accurate. Surface tension pulls parts in > place. > Heating is even, some parts like ceramic capacitors are not specified > for the stresses of hand soldering. > Overall appearance is more like production, unless you put extra > effort into hand soldering. > > ST > > > On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 12:55 PM, William Laakkonen > <worldradiolabs@... <worldradiolabs%40gmail.com>> wrote: > > Hand Soldering any QFP requires: > > > > 1. Apply flux from mini-fluxer pen or similar > > 2. Position chip > > 3. tack solder opposite corners > > 4. glob solder across all pins, shorting most > > 5. lay a *good quality (E.G. M.G.Chemical) Solder Wick across the globbed > > solder on one side and drag the iron across the wick, lifting nearly all > the > > solder, repeat this for other sides. > > > > It may be scary to consider globbing solder on a $20 chip- I've done it > > hundreds of times on QFPs now and have yet to lose a part. > > > > Elapsed time for an Atmega2560 (100 pin TQFP) about 5 minutes and no > oven, > > paste, etc. Mind you I *have* used paste, hot air, solder mask.-, etc. > I've > > used the above method successfully also with .35mm pitch parts since > about > > 1992 and have done it hundreds of times. No special skill or tools > needed, > > other than a good magnifier which you should have working with small > items > > anyway. I'm not a young guy either, so I must work with the magnifier > lamp. > > > > After soldering many thousands of SMDs, my conclusion is in most cases, > > solder paste is a wasted effort unless your in production. If you can see > > it, you can solder it with a (good) pen, solder, and wick. I use 0.015 > > solder for 0603 and up. I use .022 or 0.035 for QFP or SOIC devices and > wick > > up excess. I only see hot air and paste useful for things which you > cannot > > reach with an iron (flexible kapton boards with blind connects, BGA, > ETC)- > > and what hobbyist(s)) would use such parts unless they were free? I do > see > > "homebrew" in the title, which to me evokes a sense of doing more with > less > > and experimenting with new techniques. > > > > Loading and soldering is only one side of a homebrew_PCB. > > > > Regards, > > > > Bill > > > > On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 1:28 AM, Henry Liu <henryjliu@gmail.com<henryjliu%40gmail.com>> > wrote: > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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Re: [Homebrew_PCBs] Cheap SMD oven, anyone?
2010-03-12 by William Laakkonen
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