Yahoo Groups archive

Homebrew PCBs

Index last updated: 2026-04-28 23:05 UTC

Message

Re: [Homebrew_PCBs] Re: Inkjet or Laser for PCB work?

2010-08-02 by VK3YV

Hi, on seeing you are using a Roland Plotter for pcb drawing I have a query, 
I have a Roland DXY 800 for which I have no information i.e.. dip switch 
settings etc. that I would also like to use for PCB work. I have no 
information at all about it , I don't even know what language it talks. Can 
any one help, I have searched for hours but cant find anything regarding 
setup or language/ emulation .
Regards,
Don VK3YV.....

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "P COUNSELL" <pcounsell@...>
To: <Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, August 02, 2010 8:54 PM
Subject: Re: [Homebrew_PCBs] Re: Inkjet or Laser for PCB work?


> Unfortunately athough I have some pens whuch were designed for pcbs they 
> are no longer availabe for rowland plotters. I do not see that as a big 
> problem . I intend to use EDDING 404 PEN TIPS with edding 404 refill ink 
> with a homemade holder. I will first try recharging my existing tips when 
> they run out with EDDING PERMANENT MARKER REFILL INK, I expect this to 
> work fine.
>  ----- Original Message ----- 
>  From: P COUNSELL
>  To: Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com
>  Sent: Sunday, August 01, 2010 10:41 PM
>  Subject: Re: [Homebrew_PCBs] Re: Inkjet or Laser for PCB work?
>
>
>
>  I modified my DXY880a very easily by using a piece of standard pcb board 
> so that the pen height was perfect for standard thickness pcbs.
>  ----- Original Message ----- 
>  From: borgrailuk
>  To: Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com
>  Sent: Sunday, August 01, 2010 9:30 PM
>  Subject: [Homebrew_PCBs] Re: Inkjet or Laser for PCB work?
>
>  Hi,
>
>  Sounds interesting. How did you modify the plotter pen height and which 
> pens/ink did you use?
>
>  I have a DXY1200 - not too keen to modify height but am planning on using 
> a slightly thinner pcb, which will fit.
>
>  Stephen Freeman
>
>  --- In Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com, "P COUNSELL" <pcounsell@...> wrote:
>  >
>  > I have a very good dos program CADPAK and I use an old rowland DXY-880A 
> plotter. Results are fantastic . I modified the height of the plotter pen 
> to accomodate standard thickness PCB board. Only problem is it wont do 
> tracks fine enough for intertrack knecking , itis also very slow on 
> printing directly onto the copperlaminate but I have a cup of tea. Fine 
> for prototyping.
>  > ----- Original Message ----- 
>  > From: Bob Butcher
>  > To: Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com
>  > Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 2010 9:53 PM
>  > Subject: Re: [Homebrew_PCBs] Inkjet or Laser for PCB work?
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  > I have had a lot of trouble with toner transfer as well. My Brother 
> 1440 laser printer toner will not release reliably from any paper I have 
> found. I have heard the toner has a higher melting temperature than some 
> other printers, but am not sure what the problem is.
>  > I am not sure how you plan to modify the Artisan 50 inkjet printer to 
> directly print on the rigid PCB material. Another thing to consider, most 
> of the ink jet ink I have seen is water soluble, so the etchant will 
> dissolve the ink before it has a chance. I know there are ink jet printers 
> that are capable of using solvent based inks, but all the ones I have seen 
> are very expensive, in the several thousands of dollar range. You can buy 
> inexpensive "paint pens" from art and craft stores that might be useful if 
> you could find a flat bed printer that could be adapted to pens. I have on 
> old large format HP printer designed for CAD drafting that uses pens, but 
> the pen only moves on one axis, and the paper is fed back and forth by a 
> roller system for the other axis. The paper is wrapped around the rollers, 
> so it cannot be easily adapted to a rigid PCB. If someone had a flat bed 
> printer with a moving pen on two axes, that might work. Sounds like an old 
> school
>  > chart recorder might work, if you could find a working model that would 
> interface to a modern computer.
>  >
>  > Bob
>  >
>  > --- On Wed, 7/21/10, gnuvvekaavaali <gnuvvekaavaali@...> wrote:
>  >
>  > From: gnuvvekaavaali <gnuvvekaavaali@...>
>  > Subject: [Homebrew_PCBs] Inkjet or Laser for PCB work?
>  > To: Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com
>  > Date: Wednesday, July 21, 2010, 12:22 AM
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  > I am looking for suggestions on the choice of
>  >
>  > Inkjet (for direct inkjet printing) or laser
>  >
>  > printer (toner transfer) for the occasional single sided PCB.
>  >
>  > I don't see I will be needing very thin or dense tracks.
>  >
>  > My experience with toner transfer have not been too good. I
>  >
>  > used a Samsung Laser printer, and a hot clothes iron,
>  >
>  > with different types of paper.
>  >
>  > Best results have been with glossy magazine paper, but still
>  >
>  > had some improper transfers.
>  >
>  > The Epson Artisan 50 inkjet seems to be moddable for direct pcb 
> printing, and I can get that for cheap.
>  >
>  > Wondering if this is a easier and reliable way than toner transfer.
>  >
>  > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>  >
>
>  [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Be sure to visit the group home and check for new Links, Files, and 
> Photos:
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Homebrew_PCBsYahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>


--------------------------------------------------------------------------------



No virus found in this incoming message.
Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
Version: 9.0.851 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3044 - Release Date: 08/02/10 
04:40:00

Attachments

Move to quarantaine

This moves the raw source file on disk only. The archive index is not changed automatically, so you still need to run a manual refresh afterward.