Yes, ferric chloride is a mess. I'm using a peroxide-hydrochloric acid etchant that I use in very small quantities (2oz) and then toss. In old darkroom terms, I use it "one-shot." The peroxide and acid are super cheap, and I like the repeatability that comes with using fresh etchant every time. However, a while ago I became concerned about just dumping the stuff down the drain--not because of the peroxide or acid--but because of the dissolved copper. So I had an old 5-gal plastic bucket and I filled it with wood shavings (I had a lot of it for now-deceased hampsters). I now dump my 2oz shots straight into that. I keep it out of the rain, but *outside*. I just set the lid on it. I'm afraid to snap it down for fear of some kind of build up. I'm expecting I can use this bucket, with it's current load off shavings, for many years. Ultimately, I (or my heirs) will double or triple bag it in its snapped-down bucket and toss it out. Oh, I haven't done it yet, but I've gonna use a big fat permanent marker and write "poison," "copper compounds," "Do not dispose without caution," or words to those effect, all over the bucket. I guess if you have kids or snoopy dogs, you'd want to keep the bucket where they can't get to it. 73, Todd ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ K7TFC / Medford, Oregon, USA / CN82ni / UTC-8 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ QRP (CW & SSB) / EmComm / SOTA / Homebrew / Design On Sun, Mar 10, 2013 at 5:43 PM, Charlie Taylor <scubadogct@...>wrote: > Well im sure you are correct but either way in the world of sewerage that > is what the issue is with diaposing used ferric chloride. > On Mar 10, 2013 11:31 PM, "Todd F. Carney / K7TFC" <k7tfc@...> wrote: > > > ** > > > > > > Neither iron nor copper are actually "heavy." Atomic number is part of > the > > definition. Fe (iron): 26 / Ni (nickel): 28 / Cu (copper): 29 / Zn > (zinc): > > 30. Each of these needed by all life (in the proper quantities, of > course). > > > > Now, these buggers *are* heavy: Hg (mercury): 80 and Pb (lead): 82. > Useful > > but nasty metals. > > > > Sorry for the quibble. Heavy metals is commonly used to mean "toxic metal > > compounds." That's okay. I need coffee. I'll feel better. > > > > 73, > > > > Todd > > ---------------------------------------------------------- > > K7TFC / Medford, Oregon, USA / CN82ni / UTC-8 > > ---------------------------------------------------------- > > QRP (CW & SSB) / EmComm / SOTA / Homebrew / Design > > > > On Sun, Mar 10, 2013 at 11:30 AM, Charlie Taylor <scubadogct@... > > >wrote: > > > > > in my opinon the preasence of ferric is not the issue. It is tje heavy > > > metals that is the peoblem. > > > On Mar 10, 2013 1:03 PM, "Dave Sage" <davesage12@...> wrote: > > > > > > > ** > > > > > > > > > > > > Perhaps someone with some knowledge on public works and sewage > > treatment > > > > can > > > > clarify this for me. > > > > > > > > I guess it must be the copper in the ferric chloride etchant that we > > > > dispose > > > > of that is the problem - is that correct? Is there actually copper > per > > se > > > > any more after the reaction of etching? > > > > > > > > I'm pretty sure somewhere in the sewage treatment process, after > gross > > > > solids are removed, the water in the sewage system is sent to > settling > > > > ponds. While in the ponds ferric chloride is added to act as a > > flocculent > > > > i.e. an agent that causes solids to gather together in clumps for > easy > > > > removal. If this is the case, would it make any difference if there > > were > > > > some ferric chloride in the system to begin with (from flushing > etchant > > > > down > > > > the drain)? > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > > > Be sure to visit the group home and check for new Links, Files, and > > Photos: > > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Homebrew_PCBsYahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > ------------------------------------ > > Be sure to visit the group home and check for new Links, Files, and Photos: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Homebrew_PCBsYahoo! Groups Links > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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Re: [Homebrew_PCBs] Re: trying to do the right thing
2013-03-11 by Todd F. Carney / K7TFC
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