I'll throw this out there just in case..... Is the copper really clean? If water beads up on the copper *anywhere* the copper isn't clean enough for laser toner-resist....water should just "spread out" on the copper. When scrubbing the board with say, "Bar Keeper's Friend powder", before applying the toner, pay special attention to the corners. Charlie Made another attempt with the TRF\ufffd massive pressure with my iron. But it still doesn\ufffdt work \ufffd what is happening is the toner is bonding to the TRF and when you lift the TRF it takes the toner with it?! I\ufffdm trying to think of what might be going wrong here\ufffd problems with my toner? The fact that the boards are FR4? From: Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com] Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2016 6:14 AM To: Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Homebrew_PCBs] Re: White TRF On Wed, 29 Jun 2016 21:47:38 -0700, you wrote: >Okay. So yeah.. it just doesn\ufffdt work at all. Tried the laminator but the TRF wouldn\ufffdt stick (probably the laminator\ufffds fault.. not hot enough). So then I did extremely hard pressing with the iron for 10 full minutes. Dunked the thing in water.. but yeah. Nothing. If anything, the TRF is lifting toner from the board. The laminator I use is a simple GBC creative laminator. It's probably an old model. What you might want is a laminator with a foil setting. You can try with a simple laser print to experiment with, running the laser printed paper through the laminator. Dull side to the toner. I have had occasional sheets where (for whatever reason) the foil refuses to adhere at all. You simply let the foil cool naturally and then peel it off. Oil or water is not your friend here. I'd use small pieces and hold them on with tape. If the laminator will do a piece of paper, then it's getting hot enough for that foil. If not, then something is odd. Next step would be the board, and that will take a while to get hot. Harvey > > > >Kind of disappointed. Oh well. :) They do have white toner printers out now. $3000+ each though. :) Posted by: "Brad" <unclefalter@...> Reply via web post \ufffdReply to sender \ufffdReply to group \ufffdStart a New Topic \ufffdMessages in this topic (8) Have you tried the highest rated email app? With 4.5 stars in iTunes, the Yahoo Mail app is the highest rated email app on the market. What are you waiting for? Now you can access all your inboxes (Gmail, Outlook, AOL and more) in one place. Never delete an email again with 1000GB of free cloud storage. Be sure to visit the group home and check for new Links, Files, and Photos: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Homebrew_PCBs Visit Your Group \ufffd Privacy \ufffd Unsubscribe \ufffd Terms of Use .
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Re: [Homebrew_PCBs] Re: White TRF
2016-07-11 by <n0tt1@...>