So HOW does it know 365 days? Where does it get the actual date to decide one year? Does it last for 10 years if you only turn on the power once every ten days? On 11/03/2016 11:57 PM, Harvey Altstadter hrconsult@... [Homebrew_PCBs] wrote: > > No need for anything fancy, like a real time clock. The onboard > processor in the printer only has to count seconds and store that > info. When the appropriate number of seconds has elapsed, the > processor tells the cartridge to shut off. No extra cost, the > processor can easily handle this task while controlling the printer. > > Harvey > > On 11/3/2016 8:29 PM, 'Tony Smith' ajsmith1968@... > [Homebrew_PCBs] wrote: >> >> Oh, some printers have a built-in clock complete with backup >> battery. Unlikely to be the case with this printer, that sort of >> thing add a few cents to production costs. >> >> That clock may never be updated after being set at the factory so >> changing the computer date won\u2019t help. >> >> Tony >> >> *From:*Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com >> [mailto:Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com] >> *Sent:* Friday, 4 November 2016 1:15 PM >> *To:* Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com >> *Subject:* Re: [Homebrew_PCBs] Re: Pantum 2500 hack to direct print toner >> >> >> >> So..... WHERE does the printer get the CURRENT DATE from? >> and >> WHAT IF YOUR PC DATE WAS SET TO THE SAME DATE EVERY TIME YOU TURN IT ON? >> WHEN WOULD THE PRINTER DECIDE THE DATE HAS CHANGED? >> >> So the real question here is IF you attach this printer to a PC thats >> sole purpose is to >> print PCBs forever on this hacked printer then why would you care if >> you kept the the date >> the same and then every time you were ready to print an image you >> could also reset that image creation date so nothing about that image >> attributes would carry into the print driver interogating dates. >> >> On 11/03/2016 08:05 PM, 'Tony Smith' ajsmith1968@... >> <mailto:ajsmith1968@...> [Homebrew_PCBs] wrote: >> >> It\u2019s simpler than that. >> >> No idea of the exact scheme, but it\u2019ll be something like when you >> put in a new cartridge the printer writes the current date & time >> (obtained from your PC) to the chips. When a year has passed it >> writes \u2018Dead\u2019 to the chip. >> >> You used to be able to reset chips, now you need to get new ones >> along with your toner refill after the manufacturers closed that >> \u2018loophole\u2019. >> >> Could be worse, HP at one point were writing the manufacture date >> to the chips so if you inserted a brand new cartridge you\u2019d had >> sitting in on your shelf for a while, it would report is as \u2018too >> old\u2019 and kill it. Nasty. >> >> Tony >> >> *From:*Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com >> <mailto:Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com> >> [mailto:Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com] >> *Sent:* Friday, 4 November 2016 8:29 AM >> *To:* Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com >> <mailto:Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com> >> *Subject:* Re: [Homebrew_PCBs] Re: Pantum 2500 hack to direct >> print toner >> >> >> >> If there is a self destruct after one year then there must be a >> real time clock of some sort, if it's a clock chip then it should >> be possible to intercept the clock reference by either changing >> the clock oscillator Cristal for one that has a frequency of 1/2 >> or 1/4 of the original. If the clock reference is taken from >> another reference the inserting a device by 2 or 4 IC would do >> the same. Another option could be to remove the clock backup >> power source is battery then the clock would always start with >> its default date/time it just depends on wether the full data >> time are used or just the day. >> >> My preference would be to use a slower clock reference signal. >> When I get my printer (just ordered printer) I will look and see >> if I can find the if there's clock, it could be in the printer or >> in the cartridge. >> >> Anyone got a view to this approach to extending the usable life >> of a cartridge. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >
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Re: [Homebrew_PCBs] Re: Pantum 2500 hack to direct print toner
2016-11-04 by Rob