Its not hard at all to get good registration with double sided boards. I dont even bother making single sided anymore. You need to take care when ironing to ensure that the paper doesn't move. When I was using an iron, I would tack in the middle and work outward. In terms of line width, I can do 10 mil pretty easily though I prefer 12 mil. You can get 12 mil through 100 mil pitch parts and it stands up to the vagaries of the etch tank a little better. Yes, I use wire in the vias and solder both sides. I'll use what ever wire I have that's scrap. Since I got a couple hundred feet of scrap cat5, I've been using that. 28 ga, I believe. I thread the wire through all the vias and solder them in one pass on each side of the board. I then use the wire loops for continuity testing and clip them off as I determine the via is good. Its a good, cheap and fast technique. I know that others use eyelets but my one experiment with them was a mess and I wound up chucking the board. You need to make your vias pretty big (much larger than the eagle default). The biggest issue I have is via placement. Since I use a wire to complete the via, one can't be put under parts that are flush with the PCB. Also, you want to be careful not to place a via too close to a pad as the heat of soldering the pad can cause the via wire to drop out. I suppose if you use eyelets, some of this can be overcome. I generally dont put vias under things as it allows me access to go back and touch it up if I muffed the soldering. Have fun! Phil --- In Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com, "Bob Weiss" <BWeiss@p...> wrote: > > Using the "Staples Paper/Ironing" method, what are the best > achievable results you have gotten for a double sided board? I mean > what are the thinest lines (in mm or mils) and space between them. > The reason I am asking is because I just designed a double sided > board that is pretty complicated (I use Eagle Pro) and I don't want > to waste my time if it can't be done at home. I have done single > sided boards before with this method and have gotten great results. > The best I can get this particular board to route 100% is if I use > alot of via's. If I go with a 4 layer and send it out ($$$) then its > not that hard to route. Just trying to get some your prior > experiences and see if I should proceed. Thanks for taking the time > to reply. > > Also when dealing with vias how do you solder them? I was thinking > of using thin (30 guage), bare wire and solder it on both sides of > the board. Does anyone have any better ideas?
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Re: Best achievable double sided boards?
2004-11-06 by Phil
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