Re: Selling $150 PCBMill
2006-12-28 by Steve
... wrote: ... I checked when they came out. I seem to recall about $5000 for the least of their machines, and I also seem to recall you
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Re: Selling $150 PCBMill
2006-12-28 by crankorgan
... Steve, What got me is the MOTORSPINNERS! would insult the people who were actually building something. One guy was a Motor Driver Expert .(MDE)All his
Re: Selling $150 PCBMill
2006-12-28 by lcdpublishing
Probably not..... For motorspinners For people that are cheap A $150.00 machine A $500.00 machine Avaiable at your local Best Buy Made from junkyard scrap
Re: [Homebrew_PCBs] Re: Selling $150 PCBMill
2006-12-28 by Lez
... And the flames.......... ... Are your drivers free? the printer cable had to be bought at some stage, PICS, and it could be done on one big one, are not
Re: Selling $150 PCBMill
2006-12-28 by Dave Mucha
... Why the small table ? 4x8 foot only accomodates the standard sheets of plywood and such. there are quire a few materials that come in 5 foot widths and
Re: [Homebrew_PCBs] Re: Selling $150 PCBMill
2006-12-28 by Brian Pitt
... the motor mounts don t need all that much in the way of precision just sketch out a bolt together one and print out drilling templates bolt holes allways
Re: Selling $150 PCBMill
2006-12-28 by Dave Mucha
... Cold water ? for the cold wake up ? #1) PIC s are not free. the flip side of what you say is that for zero dollars, I can rip apart a printer cable, pull
Re: [Homebrew_PCBs] Re: Newbie to list, old timer to this hobby and others
2006-12-28 by Herbert E. Plett
... well, for now I couldn t etch this board, no matter the resolution... :) __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam?
Re: Selling $150 PCBMill
2006-12-28 by Steve
... This is the sort of thing that is prone to looky-loos. The ones who think it seems really cool and not too hard, but then it gets harder than it seemed at
Re: Newbie to list, old timer to this hobby and others
2006-12-28 by Dave Mucha
... fee, or ... When I last looked, you MUST buy their Proto service. about $200.00. having had mini-boards does not count. The, after you have bougth their
Re: Newbie to list, old timer to this hobby and others
2006-12-28 by Phil Mattison
As I understand it you can get gerber files from ExpressPCB for a fee, or you can just order volume from them. -- Phil Mattison http://www.ohmikron.com/
Re: [Homebrew_PCBs] Re: Newbie to list, old timer to this hobby and others
2006-12-27 by Richard
What happens when you decide to go from Prototypes to Production, and all your ExpressPCB files are worthless? These can be sent to any other board house nor
Re: Selling $150 PCBMill
2006-12-27 by derekhawkins
... That s the least of the issues. The major bottleneck is in the CNC software. Most of it is written for open loop stepper setups using the tradional I/O
Re: Selling $150 PCBMill
2006-12-27 by Phil Mattison
... bits. ... Can t argue with that. Actually I m working on something like what you suggest already, and others have done it as well. On the other hand,
Re: [Homebrew_PCBs] Re: Selling $150 PCBMill
2006-12-27 by Lez
... Thanks, I try to criticise with humour, makes people think about it instead of going off in a torrent of abuse......... ... Yes and look how much time and
Re: Newbie to list, old timer to this hobby and others
2006-12-27 by Phil Mattison
Actually I ve been debating whether to set up a quick PCB prototype fabrication outfit myself. I guess the iron-on toner technique works pretty well? Actually
Re: Newbie to list, old timer to this hobby and others
2006-12-27 by Dave Mucha
... A couple of pointers. (getting back close to the list topic) when you lay out your boards, put in some extra pads on both the Vcc and Vss lines. plop
Re: [Homebrew_PCBs] Re: Newbie to list, old timer to this hobby and others
2006-12-27 by DJ Delorie
... I m not green to electronics, but I still like to prototype parts of each circuit before committing them to the final ($$$) board. Home-brew is ideal for
Re: Newbie to list, old timer to this hobby and others
2006-12-27 by lcdpublishing
I agree with what Dave stated. The economics just are not there for me. I can buy a bunch of PCB stock on Ebay very cheap. I can print a lot of layouts on a
Re: Newbie to list, old timer to this hobby and others
2006-12-27 by Dave Mucha
... the 60s ... people still ... Services like Express are nice, but, if you want to make a small power supply, screw terminals, regulator, cap, diodes,
Re: Selling $150 PCBMill
2006-12-27 by Phil Mattison
... Excellent point. (I got a good laugh from this). I suspect the reason these things don t yet look like Fisher-Price toys is the market isn t big enough.
Re: Newbie to list, old timer to this hobby and others
2006-12-27 by Phil Mattison
... Granted. The question is how much time will it take, which depends on how easy it is and how many need to be made. While it may not take long to get a feel
Re: Selling $150 PCBMill
2006-12-27 by Dave Mucha
... Hats ?? http://www.barrow.k12.ga.us/kes/Media/db_spinner_hat_4c1.jpg or http://www.hatsinthebelfry.com/Merchant2/graphics/00000001/535full.jpg Anybody got
Re: Selling $150 PCBMill
2006-12-27 by Dave Mucha
... Well Lez, it s more like the path of least resistance. Since you lay out your schematic and then do a parts layout, then run the autorouter, then tweek the
Re: Selling $150 PCBMill
2006-12-27 by crankorgan
There are USB CNC controllers and you don t need a breakout board for Parallel port units.
Re: [Homebrew_PCBs] Re: Selling $150 PCBMill
2006-12-27 by Lez
... And then use it to engrave keyrings............. Go for it guys! I m behind anyone that wants to build anything, I think I would like to mill/cut/grind my
Re: [Homebrew_PCBs] Re: Newbie to list, old timer to this hobby and others
2006-12-27 by DJ Delorie
... There are a ton of symbols in gEDA s library, and people end up making their own anyway. Why? Because there are so many OTHER parts we haven t gotten
Re: Newbie to list, old timer to this hobby and others
2006-12-27 by Wayne C. Gramlich
... When it comes to CAD packages, either ECAD or MCAD, there is always a learning curve. I have done the KiCAD tutorial and found it to be reasonable. It
Re: Selling $150 PCBMill
2006-12-27 by crankorgan
$200 minus shipping and handling. LOL
Re: Selling $150 PCBMill
2006-12-27 by crankorgan
Dave, A MOTORSPINNERS! machine is a 60volt 40amp supply and three servos drives with motors. Don t forget the tape on the ends of the motor shafts. You need a
Re: Selling $150 PCBMill
2006-12-27 by Dave Mucha
The website gets 1,200 hits per day. ... gosh, sounds like the low end and home-brew market is all dried up. Darn, wish I knew it was so bad before we
Re: Selling $150 PCBMill
2006-12-27 by Dave Mucha
... um... John H and I have been kicking around some product names. Anybody mind if we call the simple unit the MotorSpinners-CNC ? Maybe even start a
Re: Selling $150 PCBMill
2006-12-27 by Dave Mucha
... yeah. the $500 unit is not painted. the $800 one is. the $800 one will even have the buyers name engraved in the table. :) (hey, ya gotta offer
Re: Selling $150 PCBMill
2006-12-26 by crankorgan
If I had it all to do over I would have called them MOTORSPINNERS! sooner. I failed to make selling plans a full time business but it does bring in 7K per year
Re: Selling $150 PCBMill
2006-12-26 by lcdpublishing
Bravo for you, you coined the phrase and hopefully taught the other people here what NOT TO CALL or TO SAY to potential customers! I do not believe for one
Re: Selling $150 PCBMill
2006-12-26 by lcdpublishing
Well, MDF doesn t have to look bad ;-) It s amazing what a few coats of shellac, prior to painting will do for the final finish :-) Don t know if that is part
Re: Newbie to list, old timer to this hobby and others
2006-12-26 by Phil Mattison
Hi Wayne, I just spent an hour looking at KiCad. Looks pretty impressive, though I got the impression that the footprint library may be a bit light. Could be a
Re: Selling $150 PCBMill
2006-12-26 by John Hansford
Chris, Thank you very much. That s support and encouragement. Those are fine things to have when trying something like this. I believe that sooner or later
Re: Selling $150 PCBMill
2006-12-26 by Dave Mucha
... It s an $800 machine on sale for $500. : ) Dave
Re: Selling $150 PCBMill
2006-12-26 by crankorgan
I coined the phrase MOTORSPINNERS! all one word in CAPs. They used to send me nasty Emails telling me I was wasting my time. So I coined the phrase and started
Re: Selling $150 PCBMill
2006-12-26 by derekhawkins
... Whatever the reasons, looking towards this group for a significant amount of CNC machine sales is a bad idea IMO...Even if the $500.00 machine was on sale
Re: [Homebrew_PCBs] Re: (Wooden) CNC router plans
2006-12-26 by Cristian
... Free but expensive chips. Cristian [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [Homebrew_PCBs] Re: Selling $150 PCBMill
2006-12-26 by Stefan Trethan
... Or they may just have realized that with the small number of PCBs they do it is far more time and space efficient to just hand drill them. A CNC is not
Re: Selling $150 PCBMill
2006-12-26 by derekhawkins
... Careful, the motor-spinners may have resigned themselves to ironing their PCBs and drilling till their eyes run water. Poking fun at them may just
Re: [Homebrew_PCBs] Re: Newbie to list, old timer to this hobby and others
2006-12-26 by DJ Delorie
... PCB is based on Gtk or Lesstif. There is a native Gtk for Windows (using MinGW, not Cygwin), which PCB uses for Windows support. The Lesstif GUI works
Re: Selling $150 PCBMill
2006-12-26 by Dave Mucha
... There is a term for the electronical guys who can make boards, but for any number of reasons, never get to a finished machine. The term I have seen
Re: Selling $150 PCBMill
2006-12-26 by lcdpublishing
John and Dave, You guys have been around these groups for a long time now, you have a feel for what s what, what people want, what people expect, and what your
Re: Newbie to list, old timer to this hobby and others
2006-12-26 by Wayne C. Gramlich
... My recollection is that PCB (the printed circuit board program layout program) is based on the X11 window system, which tends to make it very *nix centric.
Re: Selling $150 PCBMill
2006-12-26 by Dave Mucha
... But, you are special. : ) Most of us tailor our purchases with prices that seem closer to our hobby needs. If you can afford a $1,500 or $2,000 machine
Re: Selling $150 PCBMill
2006-12-26 by crankorgan
I was answering someones question. Since I started this thread I have my reasons to point out that there are machines out there that people are asking for. If