Homebrew PCBs

my new laser printer doesnt have the drawer with the 4 sided paper 
holder like the more expensive printers do.  I know i get better 
results when i reprint the image a few times to thicken up the toner, 
but i cannot get my printer to reprint more than once in the same 
spot.  has anyone figured a way to get multiple prints on the same 
paper using a cheap laser printer yet?

Does anyone know if the old early 1990s Mac Laser Printer can be made to print 
from Windows XP?  This is an Apple Personal LaserWriter LS manufactured in May 
1991.

It would sure be nice not to have to buy another Laser Printer.

Thanks.

Jim
Jim Larsen
http://www.AL7FS.us/

Jim Larsen - AL7FS wrote:

>Does anyone know if the old early 1990s Mac Laser Printer can be made to print 
>from Windows XP?  This is an Apple Personal LaserWriter LS manufactured in May 
>1991.
>
>It would sure be nice not to have to buy another Laser Printer.
>
>Thanks.
>  
>

  I think I just tossed what you needed on the last trip to the 
dumpster..  Wasn't going to get $5 for the converter on Ebay..  I've got 
another similar port converter, but not sure where it is or that it had 
ADB on it..

  $6 or something even getting it to you, is a good chunk of a used, 
more modern, better, faster, and smaller printer.  Hard not to recommend 
moving up to one and toss the anchor, even if you won't use it very often..

  Also, sign up for Freecycle for your area on Yahoo Groups.  Old laser 
printers come up now and then, if you're near any kind of populated area 
you'll have a bit newer, already IBM one in a month or two, and for only 
the cost of picking it up..  A lot of things should hit that list after 
the Christmas flood of new items.

Alan

On 18 Nov 2005, at 23:12, Jim Larsen - AL7FS wrote:

> Does anyone know if the old early 1990s Mac Laser Printer can be  
> made to print
> from Windows XP?  This is an Apple Personal LaserWriter LS  
> manufactured in May
> 1991.
>
> It would sure be nice not to have to buy another Laser Printer.
>
> Thanks.
>
> Jim
> Jim Larsen
> http://www.AL7FS.us/

Hmmn, I don't think so on this model. You can on an Apple Personal  
LaserWriter NTR which is the only one which had a parallel port built  
in. Basically the NTR is a re-badged HP printer I think.

Some other Apple laserwriters have PC parallel ports in them too, but  
you need to take the case off to get to them.

see: http://www.macosx.com/content/faq.php/q11365/Apple-Personal- 
Laserwriter.html

John

Just downloaded and had a play.

Now I only ever do simple boards, say an 18pin PIC and a few support 
components.

It seems it only does double sided or multilayer boards, it wont let me 
delete the top layer (or bottm)

SO am I right in thinking this software is useless for single sided boards?

--- In Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com, Lez <lez.briddon@n...> wrote:
>
<snip>
> 
> SO am I right in thinking this software is useless for single 
sided boards?
>

I doubt it but the best place to get the answer to that question is:

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/diptr


The author of DipTrace is quite active in the group.


Regards, Bob

On Sat, 19 Nov 2005 11:21:05 +0100, Lez <lez.briddon@...> wrote:

> Just downloaded and had a play.
>
>
> Now I only ever do simple boards, say an 18pin PIC and a few support
>
> components.
>
>
> It seems it only does double sided or multilayer boards, it wont let me
>
> delete the top layer (or bottm)
>
>
> SO am I right in thinking this software is useless for single sided  
> boards?


Well, who forces you to put traces on the top layer? Just leave it empty.

ST

Of course you can make sigle sided board. You can use whitch layer you 
need.
The problem whits this free software is output limitations. You can't 
make a Gerber file for example but this is not a big proble. You can 
print directly. I dont have a laser printer, so I need a "portable 
solution" to print the file from another PC. 
ST recomand me a PDF converter (Cute PDF) whitch solve whith succes 
this problem.




Adrian


--- In Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com, Lez <lez.briddon@n...> wrote:
>
> Just downloaded and had a play.
> 
> Now I only ever do simple boards, say an 18pin PIC and a few support 
> components.
> 
> It seems it only does double sided or multilayer boards, it wont let 
me 
> delete the top layer (or bottm)
> 
> SO am I right in thinking this software is useless for single sided 
boards?
>

Maybe he's talking about the auto-router. You could set the top layer  
cost to the max value (99 I think) and then it will put far fewer  
traces on the top layer. You can also draw a polygon in the tRestrict  
(top restrict) layer that covers the whole board...this will keep  
traces off the top layer altogether.

I tend to manually route anyway since I'm still kind of a beginner  
and I'm doing small layouts.

Mark

On Nov 19, 2005, at 8:57 AM, adicont2 wrote:

> Of course you can make sigle sided board. You can use whitch layer you
> need.
> The problem whits this free software is output limitations. You can't
> make a Gerber file for example but this is not a big proble. You can
> print directly. I dont have a laser printer, so I need a "portable
> solution" to print the file from another PC.
> ST recomand me a PDF converter (Cute PDF) whitch solve whith succes
> this problem.
>
>
>
>
> Adrian
>
>
> --- In Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com, Lez <lez.briddon@n...> wrote:
> >
> > Just downloaded and had a play.
> >
> > Now I only ever do simple boards, say an 18pin PIC and a few support
> > components.
> >
> > It seems it only does double sided or multilayer boards, it wont let
> me
> > delete the top layer (or bottm)
> >
> > SO am I right in thinking this software is useless for single sided
> boards?
> >
>
>
>
>
>
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On Sat, 19 Nov 2005 15:22:04 +0100, Mark E. Haase <mehaase@...>  
wrote:

>
> I tend to manually route anyway since I'm still kind of a beginner
>
> and I'm doing small layouts.
>
>
> Mark


Believe me, using an autorouter does not mean one is advanced. It just  
shows one is lazy and doesn't understand the art of it.

ST