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RE: [Logic_Cafe] Re: What you can't say on LUG

2005-04-20 by Kamm Schreiner

Hi Maurits,

Judging from your replies, I guess your beef is with people with beefs? ;)

Please don't be angry with me. I'm just trying to lighten it up a little.
I'm sure you must realize that Yavuz had a legitimately bad experience.
Personally I'm happy to let him vent a little. I know I would have been
*very* upset had I been in his shoes. I have a suspicion that you would have
been too.

Hoping I'm not going to draw the wrath of Kahn upon myself,

Kamm

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Logic_Cafe@yahoogroups.com 
> [mailto:Logic_Cafe@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Maurits van de Kamp
> Sent: 04/20/2005 12:46 PM
> To: Logic_Cafe@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [Logic_Cafe] Re: What you can't say on LUG
> 
> 
> > I just tried to point Apple's and Emagic's wrong doing in a polite 
> > way, LUG moderator did not approve the message.
> 
> What exactly did you write? Anything we haven't heared a 
> thousand times before? And not filled with wild ideas about 
> what Apple "probably" does and "probably" thinks of us? Just 
> curious. :o)
> 
> > I am glad this is a more democratic forum.
> 
> It's just unmoderated, that's all.
> 
> > There was a time in New York when a homeless guy was 
> arrested because 
> > he cursed at a Police Officer.
> > The judge let him go and pointed out that he was happy that the 
> > homeless was exercising his right of freedom of speech.
> 
> I find freedom of speech is too often used as an excuse for 
> verbal abuse. 
> Besides, that has nothing to do with moderating a forum (that 
> clearly states from the start that it's moderated).
> 
> > I understand the forums should stay on topic.
> 
> And the topic is "Apple's wrongdoing"? Maybe people 
> subscribing to the list for actual help and advice from 
> fellow users get tired of that subject by now? In case you 
> hadn't noticed already, "Apple's wrong doing" has been 
> pointed out over and over and over and over again (actually, 
> the moderators apparantly let it through!) and there's no one 
> reading the list that can do anything about it. You want to 
> complain, complain to Apple.
> 
> > However, this is directly on the subject and related to Apple and 
> > Emagic.
> 
> But, did it contain any useful information?
> 
> > Too bad.
> > They could only make their software or support better if 
> they listened 
> > to their customers
> 
> Hre we go again.. LUG is NOT APPLE!!!!!!
> 
> > instead of pointing fingers at each other (Apple and Emagic).
> 
> Emagic doesn't exist anymore and the team IS now Apple, 
> there's no one to point a finger at.
> 
> Sorry, I agree the moderators are sometimes out of line, but 
> I'm getting SO SICK of this opressed-peasant-stuff and the 
> wanking about we're-so-damn-good-with-our-democratic forums. 
> And to think someone called LUG selfrighteous.
> 
> There, you wanted freedom of speech? Here it is.
> 
> Maurits.
> 
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