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Re: [Logic_Cafe] firewire external hardrive for logic pro 7.

2005-05-11 by Eddie Sullivan

On Wednesday, May 11, 2005, at 12:11 PM, Thomas Grise wrote:

> Thanks.
> I have a 1.33 MHz G4 iBook.  I've had 512MB in it for a while but am 
> updating to 1.25MB today.  Pretty pumped.  By the way, this may be 
> common knowledge, but crucial.com is ubercheap for memory upgrades and 
> it was recommended by a pretty seasoned apple-geek friend of mine.  My 
> gig chip has half what I would've paid at the apple store.  Rock. 


Even though Crucial Ram is good and cheaper than the Apple Store, it's 
still overpriced. You can get ram for much cheaper than that. Let me 
know what you're paying, I might be able to save you a few dollars.


>  
> Anyway.  So, I've received both "too slow" problems, each for the 
> reason you'd expect. 
>  
> Too many plugins -> "cpu too slow" or "Core audio too 
> slow"  (Hopefully my new memory situation will alleviate this > problen) 

That could be your core audio settings, the plug ins you are using, or 
the fact that the system bus speed on an iBook is not going to be very 
good for large digital audio projects. What audio interface are you 
using?


>  
> Too many audio tracks -> "Disk too slow"  This is the one Im hoping 
> the external firewire drive will help with.

An external FWHD should alleviate this, but will not solve the 
inherently slow system bus speed of the iBook.


>  
> Im going to try out the new memory before i go and buya  drive, but I 
> want to have a solution in mind when it happens again so I 
> don't superfly-snucka(sp?) my iBook.
>

Your iBook is going to be limited for doing serious digital audio, 
especially if you wish to use complex software synths and samplers and 
complex effects.

Eddie
IMS





> Maurits van de Kamp <maurits@...> wrote:
>
> > Im new to both apples and logicPro 7.  I've been told that a "Disk 
> too
> > slow" problem can be solved by storing audio files on an external 
> firewire
> > harddrive.  Can anyone confirm this?
>
> Most likely not. However, note that there are two "too slow" errors: A 
> CPU
> overload and a disk overload. CPU overloads, caused by a lack of 
> processing
> power to deal with all the plugins, _can_ be relieved by an external 
> firewire
> harddisk as this can induce slightly less load on the processor than 
> an IDE
> drive (the Firewire filetransfer protocol is simpler and the interface 
> does
> more of the work). On the Logic User Group, I've read reports both 
> confirming
> and denying this, so your mileage may vary.
>
> To get the best peformance overall, go for a fast disk, preferably 
> either SATA
> or SCSI. SCSI drives are not necessarily faster than SATA drives, but 
> they
> certainly put less strain on the processor. However it is quite an 
> expensive
> solution and SATA might well be good enough.
>
> What system do you have, which of the two overload errors do you get 
> and in
> what situation (how many tracks, softsynths etc)..? There is no 
> definitive
> way to get rid of a too slow-message for ever; it's just a matter of 
> having a
> machine that can deal with your requirements.
>
> Maurits.
>
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