Apple Logic Pro /LogicExpress Discussion

> We - the users and the developers - are a symbiant pair. We need each 
> other and we both need Logic to be good and easy to use. Logic would 
> die if people stop buying it and using it. If it were too hard to use 
> or missing important features, then people would migrate to other 
> software. In fact, I have already seen some people do that - going to 
> Nuendo, Protools,  or Paris (there used to be a famous and very active 
> member of the LUG who totally gave up on Logic some years ago). Its a 
> two way street - although Apple and Emagic might appear standoffish 
> officially. They must keep their ear to wind to see what is happening 
> in the world ... I think Abelton Live has influenced Apple Loops and 
> all that stuff now built into Logic. Somehow the word gets around....

Oh I do agree that we are an important resource for Apple, my point is 
that it is not a paying position...
>
>
> >     What is on your wishlist for Logic 8?
>
> An easy arpeggiator plug in. Kind of like how UltraBeat works. Also
> more delay types with more control over them.
>
>
> Thats a good idea. I guess the matrix editor is kinda like an arp.

Yep- and I use it that way occasionally- I guess I'm looking for an 
UltraBeat style UI that makes it easy to make quick musical patterns 
and allows you to play them with a MIDI keyboard like UltraBeat. It 
might allow you to layer virtual and MIDI instruments so you can create 
dense layers of sound that respond to a few controllers.
>
> I kinda wish the mixer page would fit my cinema display without having 
> scroll left to right or up and down. I would prefer smaller faders but 
> where I can see everything at once.

Have you tried making a window set that fits a certain portion of the 
faders in that space, at least you can conveniently view smaller chunks 
of the Mixer Layout and switch between them quickly. You can make up to 
99 window sets (!) per session. I make templates with window sets 
already worked out, so when I start a new session- blammo- I'm able to 
see things the way I want.

>
> I often wanted a cleaner single window but with pallets in the window 
> which are customizable in size and shape to a little greater degree 
> than now.

I think this is possible with Window Sets, you should really look into 
this. Window Sets are one of the most powerful and under-utilized of 
Logic's features IMO.


>
> I would also like to be able to do some more interesting midi things 
> to a melody to make a theme and variations automatically.

You can make an arpeggiator object in environments but I've never been 
able to get this to work right... It seems overly cumbersome to use, 
I'd love an easy arpeggiator that works like UltraBeat- I love 
UltraBeat- - Do you know:

a) That in the latest version of LogicPro you can simply drag patterns 
made in UltraBeat to the arrange window.

b) You can then split the resulting track by pitch and get a bunch of 
MIDI tracks all nice and seperated with each drum sound on it's own 
track. This allows you to create audio files out of each drum part, 
apply individual groove templates on individual percussion parts, and 
reassign or layer MIDI parts to other sources for drum sounds, like ESX 
or external drum modules.

Eddie Sullivan
Integrated Midi Systems • IMS Pro A/V
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