Apple Logic Pro /LogicExpress Discussion

Hey Chuck, 
i've struggled with this same thing and recently had a breakthough with it.

I compose music for a client that involves lots of Tablas & other percussion tracks, and 
they rarely match up with each other or an underlying drum loop,

Here's what i do,

First, I take all the loops and convert into REX files, using Recycle. Then, drop them into 
SAGE Converter, a utility app. for Stylus RMX. Once that's done, they show up in the User 
Library for Stylus RMX. You then drag any or all the segments you need from Stylus into a 
track in Logic. Pick one loop to use as a Gruv Template. Select in the arrange window and 
then go Options/Groove Template/ Make Groove Template. The selected segments name 
will now show up in the Quantize pull down menu.  you can then fully or semi-quantize 
the any or all Midi-tracks or Stylus loops to follow the selected loops new Quantize 
template.

This works like a dream most of the time, sounds great when it does. 

Now, if someone could just help me, when it comes to signal processing drum 
sounds,....

I listen to some of these Stylus loops and just think 'How the @#$! do they get it to sound 
like that?'




--- In Logic_Cafe@yahoogroups.com, "dachillone4u" <dachillone4u@...> wrote:
>
> I really don't know where else to ask this question so I hope someone 
> on here has had this issue in there lives. So I write deep house, and 
> Nuskool Breaks tracks, and no matter if it is house or breaks I can't 
> get my beats to mix well with other purchased tracks. After about 7 
> years of doing this music production thing I'm finally making tracks 
> that I want to mix, but like I said they never match up easily. It 
> seems to me that there is some sort of swing, or lazy groove going on 
> with the tracks released(hip hop to house). I think I can take an 
> impression from a purchased track, and make a groove template from 
> that, but I would rather know specific values and why. I guess my 
> questions are:
> 
> Is there a simplier solution other than goove templates?
> 
> Does the groove that you are snatching have to be the same tempo as 
> the that of piece that you want to write?
> 
> 
> Do groove templates alter any midi data, if they are applied to midi 
> sequences?
> 
> Is there any general swing or groove formats for deep house, breaks, 
> and hip hop or is it all done by each producer differently. 
> 
> When swinging drums, do you swing all beats or just hi hats(no bass 
> drum, or snare drum swing)?
> 
> I've listen to lots of music, and I know there is something that I 
> can do to make my beats match easier. If you know of a place better 
> suited to answer this question could you please point me in the right 
> direction. I really need to understand this stuff as I want to start 
> testing out my music in a club enviroment. So that you can referance 
> what I'm talking about. you can google labels like nightshift(house 
> music), TCR(Breaks). I'm able to mix tracks between these labels 
> fine, and would like to get a groove/swing or whatever it is similar 
> to those labels. I normally don't ask questions like this, but I'm 
> really running into a brick wall with this one. 
> 
> thanks in advance. 
> 
> chuck
>