Apple Logic Pro /LogicExpress Discussion

I don't think anybody is excusing Apple from their responsibility of making updates and fixing the bugs that Logic has. I think we were stating that we chose Logic because of what we feel it could do for us and our recordings and for most of us it gets the job done. I'm not an Apple disciple that believes everything that Apple does is great but I made the decision to use the Logic software. Nobody made me choose it, I made the decision to buy it with all its glam and all its flaws. Everyone is entitled to their on opinion and I'm not going to debate over what I think is best, but it was stated in a previous email  that Logic was becoming obsolete and just being ran over by the competition (not exact words but this was the idea). I don't agree or believe that to be a true statement. Logic has a lot of features and things that other software's don't have or that would require more money to add via plug-ins. We can argue over the differences and both have
 solid argument's but it comes down to choice. If the updates and fixes are keeping you from getting your music done then you need to bug the Apple support, programmers, or whoever until you get what you want. Your are right you paid your hard earned money and you need the results. But if you are looking for an alliance, I don't know if you will get it. I'm pleased with the results that I get from Logic. 



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From: c_eisenhardt <c_eisenhardt@...>
To: Logic_Cafe@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, March 1, 2009 7:39:10 PM
Subject: [Logic_Cafe] Re: Quick question


Ok, I hear what you're saying but as far as I remember, Word 2004 did auto-update itself 
on a semi-regular basis.
Bug-fixes can be necessary and are kind of important to me... If nothing else, it gives a 
user some sense that the programmers are on top of real-world issues that can hamper 
the functionality of the program. 
I too use Word 2004 and was receiving auto-updates regularly the first few years I had it.

Since becoming a Logic user, I can count on one hand the number of times there was a 
Pro update that included Logic among its fixes. (Granted I started using Logic in 2005.)
Is Logic so steady that it does not need ANY upgrades or fixes? Hardly. 
Just read these forums to hear of the duplicatable problems that have plagued the 
program for years.

I do not think my being concerned with the way Apple treats their Logic customers is 
wrong.
If the program is as rock-steady as you claim then Apple would be touting that in ads or 
at trade-shows. If Logic were really that buttoned-up, Apple would at least be luring 
droves of customers from Pro-Tools or Live. 
Sadly, it's not.

I really don't quite understand this die-hard defensive posturing about Logic being above 
updates and Apple support... Wouldn't your workflow improve if Apple actually addressed 
issues that everyone complained about? Wouldn't it be helpful if Apple actually had some 
sort of dialog with their customers? I mean, to me a Pro Application means there's pro-
support. ANY kind of support. That's what usually separates consumer programs from the 
pro ones...

So, I guess we will just have to wait for the ivory towers of Apple to grant us the next 
version of Logic... When will that be again? 2010? 2011? 2015?
As much as I'd love to wait around for that, I don't know if I can afford to.
I want a program that grows with technology its users. 

Please Apple, don't shut us out...

charlie

--- In Logic_Cafe@yahoogro ups.com, GAmoore@... wrote:
>
> I just got Microsoft Office 2008. I think the version I was using was MS 
> Office 2004. So despite being a big important company, MS Office does not get 
> updates every three months - more like three years. Logic is pretty well developed 
> already, and pretty stable. I think most people are spending their time 
> getting things done and producing music, rather than wait for some minor new 
> feature or miniscule bug fix.
> 





      

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