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Re: [Logic_Cafe] Logic Express and MIDI

2009-09-08 by Steve Currington

Hmm or I guess you could loop it then use Automation to zero the  
volume for specific areas - effectively muting it.

Just off the wall ideas


Steve Currington
de Composer
Wellington, New Zealand


On 9/09/2009, at 9:40 AM, Steve Currington wrote:

> Hmm I thought there was but maybe I am wrong.
> I guess the other way would be place it once.. Repeat it X times then
> mute (or remove) the ones that you don't want to hear. There is not a
> lotta point in this except to keep the spacing exact x beats etc
>
> Steve Currington
> de Composer
> Wellington, New Zealand
>
> On 9/09/2009, at 9:30 AM, GAmoore@... wrote:
>
> > I don't think you can make a loop and mute certain parts and have it
> > continue. You can get that affect in several ways...basically stop  
> the
> > looping by dragging the upper right corner, or have infinite loop,
> > then
> > put an empty object in its path to stop it. Then to restart you need
> > another instance (copy or alias) of the original or something new.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Steve Currington <steve@...>
> > To: Logic_Cafe@yahoogroups.com
> > Sent: Tue, Sep 8, 2009 2:12 pm
> > Subject: Re: [Logic_Cafe] Logic Express and MIDI
> >
> > I am also pretty sure there is also a way to do a loop (for a long
> >
> > period say 15 times and then mute specific looped "regions" within
> >
> > that long loop but I forget how to do that.
> >
> > Steve Currington
> >
> > de Composer
> >
> > On 9/09/2009, at 3:48 AM, GAmoore@... wrote:
> >
> > > 1/ You can drag the bottom or the top of a midi region. The
> > bottom
> >
> > > changes the size and the top changes the looping ... but only  
> if
> > you
> >
> > > are zoomed in enough. You can also use a key command to turn on
> >
> > > looping
> >
> > > (infinitely) for a region without any dragging at all - which I
> > use
> >
> > > all
> >
> > > the time. You can also use a key command to repeat a region any
> > number
> >
> > > of times.
> >
> > >
> >
> > > 2/ You can also look into ALIASes of loops. Thats what you are
> > looking
> >
> > > for.
> >
> > >
> >
> > > 3/ you can just copy and paste. Its slightly easier if you set
> > up a
> >
> > > cycle loop for the first chorus. Then if you select the tracks
> > you
> >
> > > want
> >
> > > to copy it will only select ones that fall within the cycle  
> zone.
> > Then
> >
> > > simply option + click drag these to the right to make a new
> > chorus,
> >
> > > then again and again.
> >
> > >
> >
> > > 4/ I think Apple loops are single track (stereo) audio tracks
> > with
> >
> > > timing info imbedded. Not what you are looking for here.  
> although
> > if
> >
> > > you had audio for your chorus and wanted to change the timing
> > from
> > one
> >
> > > chorus to the next it might be useful. I think you can save  
> loops
> >
> > > anywhere. You can also save the entire project with loops that
> > are
> >
> > > used
> >
> > > in it. Check the manual for that. I just make a library of  
> loops
> > and
> >
> > > have a folder for each song to keep the audio organized.
> >
> > >
> >
> > > ===========================================
> >
> > > 1) LOOPING INDIVIDUAL TRACKS
> >
> > > If I create and layer a couple=2
> >
> > > 0of MIDI tracks - I found out to to drag
> >
> > > each of them out but instead of extending the Track, the track
> > loops.
> >
> > > Perfect. If the track I want to loop is selected, then hovering
> > over
> >
> > > the right hand side says Loop OFF and it essentially draws  
> the20
> > track
> >
> > > out but no loop. If the track is NOT selected, then hovering  
> over
> > the
> >
> > > right edge of the track shows a loop icon and dragging it out
> > loops
> >
> > > it. Is there a more technical way to do this? IE: if a track is
> >
> > > selected and you drag it out, you add length but if it is not
> >
> > > selected, dragging extends as a loop?
> >
> > >
> >
> > > 2) REPEATING A TRACK
> >
> > > So now, I have an 8 bar track that I loop 2 times. Perfect.
> > After n
> >
> > > bars of silence now, I need to start the loop again. I guess I
> > can
> >
> > > copy the root 8 bars and then extend them as a loop from the  
> new
> >
> > > location - but is there a way to do this in Logic that would be
> > more
> >
> > > like a reference to the original 8 bars? If I improve the
> > original
> > 8
> >
> > > bars, I don't want to have to go around to every copy of the 8
> > bars
> >
> > > and 'improve' 'them also? What would you call that? A  
> reference?
> >
> > >
> >
> > > 3) REPEATING A SECTION
> >
> > > For clarity, I am referring to a group of tracks as a SECTION.
> > Lets
> >
> > > say I've got the Chorus completed ... 24 tracks of pure  
> goodness.
> >
> > > Well, that chorus is going to come back around 4 times. How, in
> > Logic,
> >
> > > can I 'repeat' that section such that, a change to the original
> >
> > > section would be represented in all the new, linked or ref
> >
> > > erenced
> >
> > > setions?=2
> > 0To further complicate, what if I'd like to add a unique
> > lead
> >
> > > line to chorus iteration 4 ... does the SECTION expand out in  
> the
> >
> > > tracks window such that I could easily add another track and  
> not
> > mess
> >
> > > up the SECTION?
> >
> > >
> >
> > > 4. I did notice something called Apple Loops. Does that work  
> for
> > MIDI
> >
> > > as
> >
> > > well as Audio? Would that feature apply to any of my questions
> > here?
> >
> > > Would I create a SECTION as described and then save it off as  
> an
> > Apple
> >
> > > Loop - and then can I drop that anywhere in the song? I was
> >
> > > disappointed in that it appears you create a loop and then it
> > gets
> >
> > > stored in a central repository ... well that's not good. I need
> > that
> >
> > > loop stored or archived with the song. I don't want to use it  
> in
> > other
> >
> > > programs on the Mac - I want to use it in my song.
> >
> > >
> >
> > >
> >
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> >
> >
>
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