Apple Logic Pro /LogicExpress Discussion

I really can't remember, but it's something like $30 a month, and you  
subscribe for as long as you like. That's not bad, if you keep on  
using them or de-subscribe when you have had enough. When I think of  
the cost of bits of kit I bought and found were not the right thing,  
it pales into insignificance. But they are for novices, so if you have  
much of an idea what you are doing it might be a waste of money.

Andy B

On 13 Sep 2009, at 03:57, GAmoore@... wrote:

> How much do they charge for those videos?
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Stephen Currington <steve@....nz>
> To: Logic_Cafe@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Sat, Sep 12, 2009 7:51 pm
> Subject: Re: [Logic_Cafe] Pumping in sidechain
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> On 13/09/2009, at 1:13 PM, Andy Brook wrote:
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> > On 13 Sep 2009, at 01:41, Stephen Currington wrote:
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> > > Check out MacProAudio's Logic V9's flexitime tutorial..
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> > > SteveH shows how to get audio tracks all in sync using
> Flexitime and
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> > > the "beat mapping" features.
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> > >
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> > I have spent a fortune on subscribing to magazines and online
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> > resources and its money well spent now that I seem to be on the
> way up
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> > the learning curve and I can't tell you how many times I have  
> said
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> > "oh, is *that* how you do it?" but having gone through the basics
> on
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> > MacProAudio I moved sideways to SoundOnSound (which is also
> excellent)
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> > and must have missed this one
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> Yeah.. worth checking out if you have V9.. also they have updated a
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> few of the there tuts to include some of the v9 features and
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> improvements
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> > >
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> > > NB you will need Logic v9 of v course to do this.
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> > >
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> > > Steve
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> > >
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> >
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> > Which is, of course, only a
> question of when. I started off with
> Logic
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> > Express 7, which I found really difficult, switched to Pro  
> because
> it
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> > had more of the things I thought I wanted, and then about a month
>
> > later Logic Pro 8 came out so I immediately upgraded, and that is
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> > where I have done all my learning. I thought that I'd wait a  
> while
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> > until I know more about using what I already have, before rushing
> out
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> > to get the latest version when I might then get distracted.
> However,
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> > not having seen it, that's only a guess.
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> >
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> > How do people rate the new release?
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> >
>
> OK.. this is not a full explanation but...
>
> The overall Logic v9 is not a major jump from v8.. Probably more
>
> like an 8.5 IMHO as it looks and feels almost identical. Many
>
> changes are under the hood. i.e. fixes, fine tuning, rearranging a
>
> few menus etc into more logical (no pun intended) order etc. All
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> the existing plugins (ala EXS24, Sculpture etc) remain pretty well the
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> same wih only very minor cosmetic changes.
>
> They say they have brought it more inline with the 64bit world,
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> multiprocessor world and operations but generally all seems to work
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> much the same as before. But they suggest they have cleaned up the
>
> code etc so I guess we have to trust them on that score as we don't
>
> get to see
> that.
>
> On the addition side.
>
> Flexi it a great new tool to Logic (although some other DAWs have had
>
> similar tools for a while). Logics version is very good. fabulous
>
> ability to adjust and tune etc audio files and make changes to them
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> non destructively.. Stretch them shrink them fix internal timing issue
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> (ala uneven beats etc and make them even, sync multiple audio tracks
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> to each other so that they al follow the same beat (great for getting
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> bands etc in sync that don't quite play in sync - yet allow some
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> humanization to be applied so it doesn't end up sounding mechanical)
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> Umm. creating midi style instruments from audio files.. ala great for
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> getting say a drum audio and making it into a EXS24 file etc.
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> There is also new features like a pedal box tool that allows you to
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> add digital virtual pedals to tracks (or groups of tracks etc) and use
>
> the pedals to control effects (alal wahwah, chorus, grunge, etc etc)
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> Also a new Guitar Amp option that allows you to apply different styles
>
> of Amp devices to tracks and also Speaker cabinets (all virtual of
>
> course) . Also teh ability to decide on (virtual) mic placement and
>
> style on these cabinets
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> They have added an additional Jam Pack for Vocals etc. Always worth
>
> having.
>
> They have also updated and improved the additional products like
>
> Mainstage etc
> . so if you use them again another plus.
>
> Few other minor (but useful) things like adding notes (text) to
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> tracks, AUX etc strips.
>
> If you wanna a quick first look check out the free Logic V9 first
>
> looks tutorial on MacProVideo.. It is a free online tut that very
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> quickly and briefly shows you some of te features (but not in great
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> depth)
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> My opinion is that the Flexi tool is worth the upgrade - something
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> Logic should probably have had for a while but with the faster
>
> processors etc now is probably more practical.. The guitar amp and
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> pedals etc have been available via other sources for a while such as
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> Native Instruments Guitar Rig (which some think may do a better
>
> Job.. Dunno so I don't use it and can't comment).
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> I bought it
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> 1/ To make sure I didn't get to far behind
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> 2/ For the expected internal "under the hood improvements" that may
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> not be seen but hopefully will be appreciated over time
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> 3/ For the Flexi tool which I think is the biggy plus for v9.
>
> Could I have lived without the upgrade .. probably .. Would I go back
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> to v8 now.. No way.
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> Anyway.. Others will have comments I am sure.
>
> Steve
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