Apple Logic Pro /LogicExpress Discussion

BIAB is an entirely different beast from Logic.  BIAB uses an  
"intelligent" arranger to create midi parts on the fly that  
correspond to the chord names you enter.  Most DAWs don't have that  
feature.  There may be a plugin somewhere that does it, but I haven't  
heard of anything.   Virtual Guitar was a neat plugin that had those  
features, but it was discontinued, at least for Mac, and I haven't  
seen any other plugins that do the same.  Supposedly Real Guitar can,  
but I bought it and can't get it to work.

Logic's Apple Loops sound better because they are actual audio  
recordings, not synthesized (except for the synthesizers).  The best  
you can do to make your BIAB midi files sound better is import them  
into Logic and assign high quality instruments to play the parts,  
which it sounds like is what you are already doing.

I think using audio loops, even transposable ones like apple loops,  
for regular song construction, like standards, is a PITA.   If you're  
doing a song that has only major keys, then you find a loop you like,  
and enter the chord symbols in the Chord Track and you have a song.   
But if your song has any minor chords in it, then you have to find a  
similar-sounding loop in a minor key to insert for those measures.     
I've looked everywhere for loops that have both major and minor  
versions of the same loop to no avail.  My collection of time  
signatures other than 4/4 is pretty paltry as well.  Hopefully once  
the Melodyne technology becomes commonplace, audio loops will be  
capable of intelligent transposition, flatting the third for minors  
and inverting chords.   But for now, I barely use loops, and just  
play everything in when writing or arranging standard songs.

Gregory


On Jan 7, 2010, at 4:39 PM, bluemonk7772000 wrote:

> Thanks for your responses, folks. I might have to stick with band  
> in a box. If anybody finds some way in Logic to enter chord  
> progressions into loops, let me know.
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> --- In Logic_Cafe@yahoogroups.com, gamoore <GAmoore@...> wrote:
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>> To transpose actual audio where you also change major to minor  or  
>> vice versa - there is only tool which will do that - the new  
>> version of Melodyne with "DNA" (direct note access).
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>> If you want to change midi keys, or make a chord progression - its  
>> far easier to put a loop in and then hit your key command to  
>> repeat - say 30 versions. Glue together using the right click glue  
>> tool. Then open in the matrix editor, and grab chunks and drag or  
>> arrow up or down. Then to make it more legimate musically, take  
>> some of the top notes of the higher pitched chords and transpose  
>> them down an octave - thus making inversions with the same chord  
>> but better voice leading.
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