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Re: changing key in song

2010-01-08 by bluemonk7772000

Thanks, Gregory, for your very thorough answer. I'll keep looking.

--- In Logic_Cafe@yahoogroups.com, Gregory Anderson <glists@...> wrote:
>
> BIAB is an entirely different beast from Logic.  BIAB uses an  
> "intelligent" arranger to create midi parts on the fly that  
> correspond to the chord names you enter.  Most DAWs don't have that  
> feature.  There may be a plugin somewhere that does it, but I haven't  
> heard of anything.   Virtual Guitar was a neat plugin that had those  
> features, but it was discontinued, at least for Mac, and I haven't  
> seen any other plugins that do the same.  Supposedly Real Guitar can,  
> but I bought it and can't get it to work.
> 
> Logic's Apple Loops sound better because they are actual audio  
> recordings, not synthesized (except for the synthesizers).  The best  
> you can do to make your BIAB midi files sound better is import them  
> into Logic and assign high quality instruments to play the parts,  
> which it sounds like is what you are already doing.
> 
> I think using audio loops, even transposable ones like apple loops,  
> for regular song construction, like standards, is a PITA.   If you're  
> doing a song that has only major keys, then you find a loop you like,  
> and enter the chord symbols in the Chord Track and you have a song.   
> But if your song has any minor chords in it, then you have to find a  
> similar-sounding loop in a minor key to insert for those measures.     
> I've looked everywhere for loops that have both major and minor  
> versions of the same loop to no avail.  My collection of time  
> signatures other than 4/4 is pretty paltry as well.  Hopefully once  
> the Melodyne technology becomes commonplace, audio loops will be  
> capable of intelligent transposition, flatting the third for minors  
> and inverting chords.   But for now, I barely use loops, and just  
> play everything in when writing or arranging standard songs.
> 
> Gregory
> 
> 
> On Jan 7, 2010, at 4:39 PM, bluemonk7772000 wrote:
> 
> > Thanks for your responses, folks. I might have to stick with band  
> > in a box. If anybody finds some way in Logic to enter chord  
> > progressions into loops, let me know.
> >
> > --- In Logic_Cafe@yahoogroups.com, gamoore <GAmoore@> wrote:
> >>
> >> To transpose actual audio where you also change major to minor  or  
> >> vice versa - there is only tool which will do that - the new  
> >> version of Melodyne with "DNA" (direct note access).
> >>
> >> If you want to change midi keys, or make a chord progression - its  
> >> far easier to put a loop in and then hit your key command to  
> >> repeat - say 30 versions. Glue together using the right click glue  
> >> tool. Then open in the matrix editor, and grab chunks and drag or  
> >> arrow up or down. Then to make it more legimate musically, take  
> >> some of the top notes of the higher pitched chords and transpose  
> >> them down an octave - thus making inversions with the same chord  
> >> but better voice leading.
> >>
> >>
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